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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / July 2008Slowing the Growth of Health Care Costs.
"To the Editor: The limitation of the article by Mongan et al. (April 3 issue) on options for slowing the growth of health care costs is the acceptance only of reforms that will not irritate powerful, entrenched corporate and labor interests. Our system is costing us perhaps twice as much as it should. We need to target the fattest cats and slim them down. Hospitals currently seek consolidation rather than efficiencies, charge a fortune for routine services, and pay higher wages rather than taking strikes. Insurance companies add so little at so high a charge. Pharmaceutical companies advertise, develop frivolously repetitive drugs, and charge without restraint. Medical specialists in some areas operate and serve dying patients with little restraint. The interventions suggested in the article are popguns against a profit-bound army. Restraint in our mixed system needs to come from government, not voluntary acts by corporations. Schlesinger has identified a cycle of government activism at 30 years, the last peak being 40 years ago. It is possible, then, that suggestions that are more challenging to entrenched interests should be entertained." Source: http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/4/434 A Spirit-guided comment: The "fattest cats" will not slim down until they start eating less, down to the right amount: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ... .. by being hungrier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689? Hunger is wonderful ! ! ! It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... .. for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360? Be hungrier, which is healthier. Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17? On Jul 27, 2:07 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote: > "To the Editor: The limitation of the article by Mongan et al. (April 3 issue) on options for slowing the growth of health care costs is the acceptance only of reforms that will not irritate powerful, entrenched corporate and labor interests. Our system is costing us perhaps twice as much as it should. We need to target the fattest cats and slim them down. Hospitals currently seek consolidation rather than efficiencies, charge a fortune for routine services, and pay higher wages rather than taking strikes. Insurance companies add so little at so high a charge. Pharmaceutical companies advertise, develop frivolously repetitive drugs, and charge without restraint. Medical specialists in some areas operate and serve dying patients with little restraint. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > The "fattest cats" will not slim down until they start eating less, down to the right amount: Neither the original editorial letter in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) nor the letter to the editor excerpt above were discussing weight or weight loss or diets. It was an discussion of the economics or health care. The phrase "fattest cats" was a not referring to obese felines. It was not referring to the body weight of anything or anyone, yet Chung chose to use the literal meaning of the phrase to push his own agenda. This is dishonest and deliberately misleading behavior by Dr. Chung. Alas, what more do we expect from this mentally ill, dishonest, unemployable ex-physician? satan masquerading as truth via a sockpuppet despairingly posted: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Medicine (NEJM) nor the letter to the editor excerpt above were > discussing weight or weight loss or diets. Indeed, they are oblivious to the real reason for the "Growth of Health Care Costs" being the growing size of American waistlines including there own. Your time is up: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/37984ec9be787bb2? You are defeated: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/679654345ae83c7d? May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to rebuke you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/31c3b88286afc5bd? <>< May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689? Hunger is wonderful ! ! ! It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360? Be hungrier, which is healthier. Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17? On Jul 27, 11:38 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote: > satan masquerading as truth via a sockpuppet despairingly posted: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Health Care Costs" being the growing size of American waistlines > including there own. In addition to misspelling "there" Chung unwittingly confirms that he is intentionally twisting the meaning of words and the intent of NEJM articles in order to push his own agenda.Chung demonstrate how maliciously dishonest he's become. The NEJM article was discussing medical economics, not the weight, diet, or eating habits of Americans or the size of their waistlines. I've also removed all of the headers to newsgroups that he added, since this topic has nothing to do with the Christian newsgroups and they are sick and tired of Chung's nonsense. I try to confine my replies to Chung to only sci.med.cardiology where the original post was made. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c64fbf65d899cb8e? <>< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825? On Jul 27, 12:11 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote: <snip Chung Dung> Your claim that you always practice scientifically anchored medicine is incorrect, Chung. You twist words, obfuscate, misquote, *discern* and otherwise lie. I fixed the headers again. The good people of the Christian and diabetes support groups don't need to be exposed to your lies. You are as much of a Christian as you are a competent doctor. And we all know what sort of a doctor you are. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/849954d42c2beebc? <>< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825? On Jul 27, 4:29 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote: Chung is mentally ill, dishonest and unfit to practice medicine. He also can't be trusted to summarize excerpts from medical journals or other sources. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e17dea9c6a25e81c? <>< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17? i'm sorry your life is so sad http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/13497233ce5242cd? <>< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17? If god were real there would be no health care costs. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4716de03c5f30005? > > If god were real there would be no health care costs. Indeed, there are no health care costs for those of us who are walking with GOD :-) Thus, you remain delusional: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/56ab92064d5793a5? May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray for your perishing soul, dear Adonis: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d7b100b5ddbc5ce? Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825? >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Indeed, there are no health care costs for those of us who are walking > with GOD :-) That is bull sh.t again. Hospitals are filled with sick people who believe they are walking with god. The delusion is yours. > Thus, you remain delusional: > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/56ab92064d5793a5? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825? > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > That is bull sh.t again. It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully. Sadly, the same can not be truthfully written about you and other delusional atheists: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/56ab92064d5793a5? May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray for your perishing soul, dear Adonis: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d7b100b5ddbc5ce? Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825? >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> That is bull sh.t again. You do not write truthfully, the truth is not in you! People who "walk with god" are sick and fill the health care system. That is a fact.Look at it this way. Christians out number atheists by a large percentage. If this is the case percentage wise we would not need as many hospitals as we have. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/56ab92064d5793a5? <>< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825? > If god were real there would be no health care costs. There would be no need for health care, if we were never created in the first place.  Signaturemonkfish * alt.atheism is removed from the groups header. >> If god were real there would be no health care costs. > > There would be no need for health care, > if we were never created in the first place. We were not created, and we still need a health care system. >>> If god were real there would be no health care costs. >> >> There would be no need for health care, >> if we were never created in the first place. > > We were not created, and we still need a health care system. You sound ungrateful. What makes you think you would be grateful for a health care system, when you are not even grateful for life? Signaturemonkfish * alt.atheism is removed from the groups header. >>>> If god were real there would be no health care costs. >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > you would be grateful for a health care system, > when you are not even grateful for life? How do you know whether your heart has been made discerning? The Clocks A guy dies and goes to heaven. It's a slow day for St. Peter, so, upon passing the entrance test, St. Peter says, "I'm not very busy, today, why don't you let me show you around?" The guy thinks this is a great idea and graciously accepts the offer. St. Peter shows him all the sights, the golf course, the reading room and library, the observation room, the cafeteria and finally, they come to a HUGE room full of clocks. The guy asks, "What's up with these clocks?" St. Peter explains, "Everyone on earth has a clock that shows how much time he has left on earth. When a clock runs out of time, the person dies and comes to the Gates to be judged." The guy thinks this makes sense but notices that some of the clocks are going faster than others. He asks why is that? St. Peter explains, "Every time a living person tells a lie, it speeds his clock." This also makes sense, so the guy takes one last look around the room before leaving and notices one clock in the center of the ceiling. On this clock, both hands are spinning at an unbelievable rate. So he asks, "What's the story with that clock?" "Oh, that," St. Peter replies, "That's OJ Simpson's clock. We decided to use it as a fan SUNDAY SCHOOL Little Mary was not the best student in Sunday school. Usually she slept through the class. One day the teacher called on her while she was napping, "tell me, Mary, who created the universe?" When Mary didn't stir, little Johnny, an altruistic boy seated in the chair behind her, took a pin and jabbed her in the rear. "God almighty!" Shouted Mary and the teacher said, "very good" and Mary fell back asleep. A while later the teacher asked Mary, "who is our lord and savior," but, Mary didn't even stir from her slumber. Once again, Johnny came to the rescue and stuck her again. "Jesus Christ!" Shouted Mary and the teacher said, "very good," and Mary fell back asleep. Then the teacher asked Mary a third question. "What did eve say to Adam after she had her twenty-third child?" And again, Johnny jabbed her with the pin. This time Mary jumped up and shouted, "if you stick that damn thing in me one more time, I'll break it in half!" The teacher fainted. |
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