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Curing diabetes, high blood pressure, osteoarthritis... by eating less.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Jul 2008 00:58 GMT
"Patients see up to 85% improvement or cure in their diabetes.
Patients see up to 70% improvement or cure in their high blood pressure.
Patients see a significant lessening of pain related to osteoarthritis.
Patients see a a significant lessening of gastric reflux symptoms.
Some patients see an improvement in fertility."

Source:

http://www.slim-by-surgery.com/article.asp?article=177

A Spirit-guided comment:

It remains much smarter to simply and freely choose to eat less, down to the right amount:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...

.. by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

.. gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

.. for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21...

http://TruthRUS.org/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

May all souls choose to become healthier:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHealthy

Here is a simple parable given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungrier, which is healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

truth@finder.com - 23 Jul 2008 02:56 GMT
Our armchair search enjine jocky opines
""Patients see up to 85% improvement or cure in their diabetes.
Patients see up to 70% improvement or cure in their high blood pressure.
Patients see a significant lessening of pain related to osteoarthritis.
Patients see a a significant lessening of gastric reflux symptoms.
Some patients see an improvement in fertility.""

Truth:

Such are the woes of the morbidly obese as all parts of the body are
greatly affected.

However a calorie restriction diet like the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.  
fails.  They resort to the surgery because all else has failed.  Many have
been on the two pound diet for many years, repeating it several times a
day.

With particular of the surgery methods, the diabetes symptoms are reversed
very quickly long before significant weight loss has occured because it
prompts much higher incretin levels.

The two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc. is trash science and it violates God's
laws of energy and human metabolism.

The inventer is best ignored and expert knowledge sought elsewhere.

God bless.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Jul 2008 09:37 GMT
satan masquerading as truth via a sockpuppet despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1388e04acb9557cf?
>
> Truth:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/37984ec9be787bb2?

<><

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
truth@finder.com - 23 Jul 2008 13:54 GMT
Our armchair search enjine jocky opines
""Patients see up to 85% improvement or cure in their diabetes.
Patients see up to 70% improvement or cure in their high blood pressure.
Patients see a significant lessening of pain related to osteoarthritis.
Patients see a a significant lessening of gastric reflux symptoms.
Some patients see an improvement in fertility.""

Truth:

Such are the woes of the morbidly obese as all parts of the body are
greatly affected.

However a calorie restriction diet like the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
fails.  They resort to the surgery because all else has failed.  Many have
been on the two pound diet for many years, repeating it several times a
day.

With particular of the surgery methods, the diabetes symptoms are reversed
very quickly long before significant weight loss has occured because it
prompts much higher incretin levels.

The two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc. is trash science and it violates God's
laws of energy and human metabolism.

The inventer is best ignored and expert knowledge sought elsewhere.

God bless and protect and heal.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Jul 2008 00:32 GMT
satan masquerading as truth via a sockpuppet despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Such are the woes of the morbidly obese as all parts of the body are
> greatly affected.

Such are the woes of all who suffer from the delusion arising from
your lie that "hunger is bad, because it means starvation:"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ebf6d71319c96a07?

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
rebuke you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires:

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is healthier.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be9939b1fe5e3ad7?
truth@finder.com - 25 Jul 2008 00:58 GMT
> Our armchair search enjine jocky opines
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Such are the woes of the morbidly obese as all parts of the body are
> greatly affected.

"Such are the woes of all who suffer from the delusion arising from your
lie that "hunger is bad, because it means starvation:""

Truth:

Not only have we seen lies of omission but we now have the lie of bearing
false witness.

If we confess our sin He is quick to forgive, if we say we do not sin the
truth is not in us.

I forgive you.

May God bless and protect and heal and provide peace at last.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Jul 2008 09:42 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/37984ec9be787bb2?

<><

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be9939b1fe5e3ad7?
truth@finder.com - 25 Jul 2008 13:48 GMT
Our forgiven armchair brother opines:

> Truth:
>
> Such are the woes of the morbidly obese as all parts of the body are
> greatly affected.

"Such are the woes of all who suffer from the delusion arising from your
lie that "hunger is bad, because it means starvation:""

Truth:

Not only have we seen lies of omission but we now have the lie of bearing
false witness.

If we confess our sin He is quick to forgive, if we say we do not sin the
truth is not in us.

I forgive you.

May God bless and protect and heal and provide peace at last.
/
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Jul 2008 19:29 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/679654345ae83c7d?

<><

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
truth@finder.com - 25 Jul 2008 22:24 GMT
Our forgiven armchair brother opines:

> Truth:
>
> Such are the woes of the morbidly obese as all parts of the body are
> greatly affected.

"Such are the woes of all who suffer from the delusion arising from your
lie that "hunger is bad, because it means starvation:""

Truth:

Not only have we seen lies of omission but we now have the lie of bearing
false witness.

If we confess our sin He is quick to forgive, if we say we do not sin the
truth is not in us.

I forgive you.

May God bless and protect and heal and provide peace at last.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Jul 2008 02:15 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/679654345ae83c7d?

<><

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
truth@finder.com - 26 Jul 2008 03:30 GMT
Our often forgiven armchair brother opines:

> Truth:
>
> Such are the woes of the morbidly obese as all parts of the body are
> greatly affected.

"Such are the woes of all who suffer from the delusion arising from your
lie that "hunger is bad, because it means starvation:""

Truth:

Not only have we seen lies of omission but we now have the lie of bearing
false witness.

If we confess our sin He is quick to forgive, if we say we do not sin the
truth is not in us.

I forgive you again.

May God bless and protect and heal and provide peace at last.

..
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Jul 2008 08:30 GMT
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Not only have we seen lies of omission but we now have the lie of bearing
> false witness.

You remains the source of all lies, satan:

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your
father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to
the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his
native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." -- LORD
Jesus Christ (John 8:44).

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
rebuke you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/31c3b88286afc5bd?

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is healthier.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
truth@finder.com - 26 Jul 2008 14:17 GMT
Our oft forgiven cogitator opines:

> "Such are the woes of all who suffer from the delusion arising from your
> lie that 'hunger is bad, because it means starvation:'" -- Andrew, in the Hol
y Spirit.

> Truth:
>
> Not only have we seen lies of omission but we now have the lie of bearing
> false witness.

"You remains the source of all lies, satan:

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your
father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the
truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native
language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." -- LORD JESUS CHRIST"

Truthfully:

Perhaps you can answer a question your remarks and behaviors have
previously prompted.

Given your use of obfuscation, rhetorical misdirecting word play, editing
of the posts of others to give false impressions of their thoughts, and
other such methods; that if a child should use them would be corrected for
lying, how do we know you are not in fact the same of which you speak
above?  How will we know if and when you respond that we will not see more
of the same if you are in fact as above?

"By their fruits you shall know them."

I forgive you.

God bless.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Jul 2008 08:58 GMT
satan masquerading as truth via a sockpuppet despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e17dea9c6a25e81c?
>
> Truthfully:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/37984ec9be787bb2?

<><

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
truth@finder.com - 27 Jul 2008 18:06 GMT
Lies, was "Curing diabetes"
                                     
  From: truth@finder.com
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Our oft forgiven cogitator opines:

> "Such are the woes of all who suffer from the delusion arising from your
> lie that 'hunger is bad, because it means starvation:'" -- Andrew, in
the Hol
y Spirit.

> Truth:
>
> Not only have we seen lies of omission but we now have the lie of
bearing
> false witness.

"You remains the source of all lies, satan:

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your
father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the
truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native
language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." -- LORD JESUS CHRIST"

Truthfully:

Perhaps you can answer a question your remarks and behaviors have
previously prompted.

Given your use of obfuscation, rhetorical misdirecting word play, editing
of the posts of others to give false impressions of their thoughts, and
other such methods; that if a child should use them would be corrected for
lying, how do we know you are not in fact the same of which you speak
above?  How will we know if and when you respond that we will not see more
of the same if you are in fact as above?

"By their fruits you shall know them."

I forgive you.

God bless and protect.
/
Andy - 27 Jul 2008 10:09 GMT
If you eat nothing for a week that will also cure them.    Permanently!!!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Jul 2008 10:25 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1388e04acb9557cf?
>
> If you eat nothing for a week that will also cure them.    Permanently!!!

Incorrect.

The pathologist would still see evidence of type-2 diabetes
(atherosclerosis), hypertension (LVH) and osteoarthritis (loss of
articulating cartilage) on autopsy.

Moreover, eating less, down to the right amount (2PD-OMER Approach),
is not the same as eating nothing (fasting).

May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is healthier.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
truth@finder.com - 27 Jul 2008 17:49 GMT
Our armchair ponderer opined:

> If you eat nothing for a week that will also cure them.    Permanently!!!

"Incorrect.

The pathologist would still see evidence of type-2 diabetes
(atherosclerosis), hypertension (LVH) and osteoarthritis (loss of
articulating cartilage) on autopsy.

Moreover, eating less, down to the right amount (2PD-OMER Approach), is
not the same as eating nothing (fasting)."

Truth:

Those are not symptoms exclusive to diabetes and no exact conclusion could
be drawn.  A better evaluation would be beta cell mass.  Typically 50
prcent reduction in a diabetic at diagnosis is noted with a decline
thereafter.

The two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc. is not a 1908 model t ford either.

It is trash science whichviolates God's laws of energy and human
metabolism.

God bless.
RF - 27 Jul 2008 18:00 GMT
> If you eat nothing for a week that will also cure them.    Permanently!!!

Egads!, I never knew that Nothing was a cure-all.
 Where can I buy it?
Robert Miles - 27 Jul 2008 22:25 GMT
>> If you eat nothing for a week that will also cure them.    Permanently!!!
>
> Egads!, I never knew that Nothing was a cure-all. Where can I buy it?

From some of the spammers that are more interested in getting your
money than in sending you anything but spam.

You might also try this:

http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/images/guillotine[1].jpg
Nico Kadel-Garcia - 27 Jul 2008 22:50 GMT
>>> If you eat nothing for a week that will also cure them.    Permanently!!!
>> Egads!, I never knew that Nothing was a cure-all. Where can I buy it?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/images/guillotine[1].jpg

Well, not eating any food for a week would be exceptionally nasty for
diabetics, but is unlikely to kill a normal, healthy person. Otherwise Ghandhi
and a lot of religious people who fasted ruring Lent would have been deader
than doornails.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Jul 2008 02:36 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5cae37642c022225?

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Jul 2008 04:13 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/13497233ce5242cd?

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Jul 2008 11:02 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/13497233ce5242cd?

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% - 28 Jul 2008 16:33 GMT
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>
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% - 25 Jul 2008 01:05 GMT
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