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Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 05 Jul 2008 04:07 GMT
Does anybody know of any support groups for victims of IRB approved
research studies?  I am not sure if there is a support group for
victims of NIH federally funded studies.  I would like to start one
because 11 years is too long to suffer with no help.  Oh yes, I found
the Office of Human Research Protection at the National Institute of
Health but they told me that they were there to protect the RESEARCH
not the HUMANS.  Ha Ha silly me! :)
ironjustice@aol.com - 05 Jul 2008 20:10 GMT
On Jul 4, 8:07 pm, Love Truth Delicatepuzzle <FAIRPUZZ...@gmail.com>
wrote:support groups for victims of IRB <<

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> Does anybody know of any support groups for victims of IRB approved
> research studies?  I am not sure if there is a support group for
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> Health but they told me that they were there to protect the RESEARCH
> not the HUMANS.  Ha Ha silly me! :)
Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 24 Jul 2008 04:08 GMT
On Jul 5, 12:10 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 4, 8:07 pm, Love Truth Delicatepuzzle <FAIRPUZZ...@gmail.com>
> wrote:support groups for victims of IRB <<
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for the advice but medical malpracticed does not cover my
situation.  I have been told by lawyers o'plenty that my case:

-Is too delicate. (took a while for me to know what THAT meant!)

-Requires more resources than this lawfirm has...(apparently more than
ANY lawfirm has!)

-It happened in a COUNTY ie GOVERNMENT hospital, too bad you can't
fight the government, they have deep pockets, endless funds from
taxpayers dollars.

-Nobody cares because doctors need to practice somewhere and folks
backing the hospital with the big bucks expect to "lose a few for the
benefit of the many."

-Go to the media.

Oh and my VERY FAVORITE comment of all, heard ad nauseum....GOOD
LUCK!!!

So, having spent over 11 years trying to get medical help or diagnoses
for my chronic fatigue, pain, foggy thinking, loss of seat(an
equestrian thing meaning balance for riding) etc. I will attempt to
tell my story.  Laurabarret.blogspot.com.

I see that it has already disappeared, imagine. Sure is hard to go to
the media when my phone and computer don't work like they should.

Warmly, Laura..just a gal wanting to ride.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Jul 2008 12:10 GMT
> neighbor "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
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> fight the government, they have deep pockets, endless funds from
> taxpayers dollars.

There would also be issues of sovereign immunity and statute of
limitations.

> -Nobody cares because doctors need to practice somewhere and folks
> backing the hospital with the big bucks expect to "lose a few for the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Oh and my VERY FAVORITE comment of all, heard ad nauseum....GOOD
> LUCK!!!

No such thing as luck either good or bad (Proverbs 16:33).

> So, having spent over 11 years trying to get medical help or diagnoses
> for my chronic fatigue, pain, foggy thinking, loss of seat(an
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Warmly, Laura..just a gal wanting to ride.

May GOD bless you in His mighty way, thereby making you ever healthier
(hungrier), dear Laura.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 24 Jul 2008 14:55 GMT
On Jul 24, 4:10 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> > neighbor "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
>
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> There would also be issues of sovereign immunity and statute of
> limitations.

Sovereign immunity.  Ohhh....that would explain why I got the 3 phone
calls recently from the US dept. of Justice, US attorneys office. The
last call went kind of like this:  "I am just calling to make sure you
understand your sitution Ms. Stanbery."  I told her that it had just
been explained to me in a previous call that the US attorneys must
represent the federal government and being that my problem is that I
was injured in an NIH IRB funded protocol that caused death and
resusitation to me and my premature son I could not ask for help from
the US dept. of Justice....because they must represent the federal
government even in civil matters.  She said, "Ok, just wanting to be
sure that you understand your situation."  Lovely. I feel like a
person without a country.  She was kind enough to explain to me that I
must write my congress representatives in order to start an Inquiry.
I asked her what that meant and she said that each dept. of the
Federal Gov't has it's own investigative and oversight branches that
have failed to help me so my only avenue is a congressional inquiry.
Great...I realized then that my fight is not just with the State, but
with the Federal gov't.  Of course that explains the hours of
conversations with the Investigator/Scientist/Doctors whom advise the
legal dept. of NIH.  Perfect.  Like the nurse told me 11 years ago
when I was still in the hospital.  "You are smart, Laura.  Do what the
doctors tell you to do so that you can get you and your son out of
here.  Remember there are always people smarter and they are not as
nice as you.  I call that nurse an angel because she was the first on
a VERY SHORT list of people who have been brave enough to tell the
TRUTH.  She was an angel.  I was in the hospital for 8 days and she
took care of me.  When she returned from being off for a few days she
was so happy that I was there.  She came into my room in the middle of
the night and told me her story.  She told me that her loyalty must be
with the hospital because she had been there for over 30 years and a
charge nurse in the ER for 10 years.  She added that she loved the
United States because nuns had rescued her from Korea many years ago,
(she was in her 60's) and brought her to the US where she had been
trained to be a nurse.   I asked her, "It is bad, isn't it?"  She
cried and said, "It is very bad, I am ashamed that I work here."  She
told me a few other things which I won't say...I have to save some
gories here and there just in case there ever is an inquiry, (ha
ha.)but mainly she told me that she loved me and she told me I was not
wrong in thinking that something horrific had happened to me.  I knew
this.  I don't know how I knew, but I knew...even though everybody was
lying.  I already knew that I would never stop trying to find the
truth; find out what had gone wrong and why. I am not the first, nor
the last, and I speak for those who have less voice than me.

> > -Nobody cares because doctors need to practice somewhere and folks
> > backing the hospital with the big bucks expect to "lose a few for the
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you dear Andrew.  I actually did feel hungrier after I started
my blog; I must do more of the same so I may feel even hungrier.

God has blessed me with a brain and a spirit of truth and love that
rides with horses.

In memory of my beloved Fairpuzzled.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Jul 2008 22:43 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > neighbor "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 76 lines]
> truth; find out what had gone wrong and why. I am not the first, nor
> the last, and I speak for those who have less voice than me.

The world has been under a curse since sin entered into it from satan
through Adam and Eve.

"Cursed is the ground because of you..." -- LORD Almighty GOD speaking
to Adam (Genesis 2:17)

Here is the science that describes the curse:

http://SecondLaw.com

> > > -Nobody cares because doctors need to practice somewhere and folks
> > > backing the hospital with the big bucks expect to "lose a few for the
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>
> Thank you dear Andrew.

Laus Deo :-)

> I actually did feel hungrier after I started
> my blog; I must do more of the same so I may feel even hungrier.

If you are doing what GOD desires of you, you will become much
hungrier as He blesses you.

> God has blessed me with a brain and a spirit of truth and love that
> rides with horses.

Your brain is a gift rather than a blessing.  When GOD blesses you,
your brain will work better.  Meanwhile, our dear convicted neighbor
Don Kirkman's brain clearly is not working very well because GOD has
not been blessing him.

The Spirit of truth is the Holy Spirit, Who is GOD.

GOD is love.

May you and other dear friends have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year
since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is healthier.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 25 Jul 2008 01:03 GMT
On Jul 24, 2:43 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > neighbor "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
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>
> - Show quoted text -

It is funny to me to see that ya'll super-debaters don't have much to
say.  Surely friend Andrew doesn't get all the wind does he?

---------Dead Doctors Don't Lie.  Dr. Wallach DVM,
ND-------------------

I learned from a professor at Texas Tech whom told us to NEVER trust
doctors without thorough objective evidence.   One of the many bits of
wisdom he shared was, "Never get general anesthesia if you have a
choice. It goes wrong all the time because every body is an individual
and there is no recipe for safe anesthesia.  If you wake up from
general anesthesia and you don't feel right, go get your itemized
bill.  Your bill is the truth whereas your "records" are created after
the fact and not the truth."

I have my records.  I have my bill....the first one, before "credits"
were applied.  I have many copies.

I would find many years later that he spoke the truth and it saved my
life.

Love and Truth, Laura

The Patient Who Wouldn't Die
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Jul 2008 01:17 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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> It is funny to me to see that ya'll super-debaters don't have much to
> say.  Surely friend Andrew doesn't get all the wind does he?

"And as for you, brothers, never tire of doing what is right." --
Apostle Paul (2 Thessalonians 3:13)

> ---------Dead Doctors Don't Lie.  Dr. Wallach DVM,
> ND-------------------
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> I would find many years later that he spoke the truth and it saved my
> life.

It is GOD, Who saved your life.

GOD is the truth.

"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John
14:6)

Amen.

LORD Jesus Christ is GOD.

"My LORD and my GOD ! " -- disciple "doubting" Thomas upon seeing the
risen Jesus of Nazareth (John 20:28)

May GOD bless you in His mighty way making you ever healthier
(hungrier) as He humbles you so that you will have His strength to do
what He desires of you, dear Laura.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Don Kirkman - 24 Jul 2008 18:59 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article
<664c0e7a-e234-43c5-ae58-57348faee3c9@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>:

>> neighbor "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:

>> > > Does anybody know of any support groups for victims of IRB approved
>> > > research studies? ?I am not sure if there is a support group for
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> > > Health but they told me that they were there to protect the RESEARCH
>> > > not the HUMANS. ?Ha Ha silly me! :)- Hide quoted text -

>> Thanks for the advice but medical malpracticed does not cover my
>> situation.  I have been told by lawyers o'plenty that my case:

>> -Is too delicate. (took a while for me to know what THAT meant!)

>> -Requires more resources than this lawfirm has...(apparently more than
>> ANY lawfirm has!)

>> -It happened in a COUNTY ie GOVERNMENT hospital, too bad you can't
>> fight the government, they have deep pockets, endless funds from
>> taxpayers dollars.

>There would also be issues of sovereign immunity and statute of
>limitations.

There **could** be, but that is far from certain.  Sovereign immunity
is not a blanket amnesty for all governmental officers and agents, let
alone for government-funded activities.  Statutes of limitations
generally apply to criminal matters, not civil tort recourse, and will
differ according to the jurisdiction.  My 23 years in government
justice agencies vs. your 0 years.

>> -Nobody cares because doctors need to practice somewhere and folks
>> backing the hospital with the big bucks expect to "lose a few for the
>> benefit of the many."
>>
>> -Go to the media.

>> Oh and my VERY FAVORITE comment of all, heard ad nauseum....GOOD
>> LUCK!!!
Signature

Don Kirkman
donsno2@charter.net

Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 24 Jul 2008 22:26 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Well Don, Pony up some advice on how I am supposed to, "Go to the
media." If you are such an experienced justice guy you ought to know
how a person with no resources whom has not worked since being
iatrogenically injured on May 25th, 1997 can possibly fight the
medical community including the NIH.  Of course I do understand that
premature babies are HUGE moneymakers...hell, the Dallas Morning News
just ran a touching bit of propaganda this past sunday about the brand
new Parkland NICU expansion.  I remember how pissing-on-themselves
excited the NICU staff was when they ching-chinged the million dollar
mark with a preemie.  Just think how many more million dollar babies
they can accomodate now!  I am so ashamed that my son only went about
800,000 not including the 70,000 or so that they got for my "care."
They would have hardly gotten paid if they would have TRIED to stop
labor for my 27 week old pregnancy.  It was much better for them that
they INDUCED me with oxytocin.  Yes, I can plainly see that inducing
me was much better for the bottom line. f.ck them and f.ck the NIH.
Sorry Andrew if I offended your newly Jesus freak ears but YOU told me
I had a Magnesium sulfate overdose and even my dumb-a.s figured out
that is a LIE.

I told them at Parkland while I was still in the hospital that they
should tell the truth because it would only get worse the more they
lied.  I vowed to NEVER GIVE UP.  I have decided that I will even try
to get my son's birthday back.  Even his god-damned birth certificate
is a LIE. My dad used to say that, "they can't eat you or take away
your birthday."  He would be proud to know that I am fighting to get
his namesake grandson's birthday back from the evil f.cks that DID
take it away.  Of course my dad, WAYNE D HALVARSON was killed in a
Phoenix hospital in 1999, (they were nicer, they wrote an apology
letter) so he will never know nor will my brother, MICHAEL WAYNE
HALVARSON, (whom died at age 42 of diabetes that was "treated" by some
more evil f.cks).  Unless the evil f.cks get me, my mom or my kids,
(BARRET WAYNE STANBERY (11), RYDER LYNN STANBERY (6), AND MORGAN RENEE
HAWTHORN (3), we will be here to tell the story of, THE PATIENT WHO
REFUSED TO DIE.

In memory of my beloved Fairpuzzled.

Laura Lynn (Halvarson) Stanbery...THE PATIENT WHO REFUSED TO DIE.
Don Kirkman - 25 Jul 2008 00:39 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Love Truth Delicatepuzzle wrote
in article
<42682ea2-6e11-4631-9e94-bb73dbdae699@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com>:

>> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
>> article
>> <664c0e7a-e234-43c5-ae58-57348faee...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>:

>Well Don, Pony up some advice on how I am supposed to, "Go to the
>media."

I'm not the one who suggested you should go to the media.  In fact I
made no suggestions for you; I was responding to Dr. Chung, merely
pointing out the inaccuracies in his message, which was about specific
points of law and procedures.

I sympathize with you and your struggles, but I'm not the person for
you to be asking about what you should do--and neither is Dr. Chung.
He is notorious for his inaccurate medical comments, but your issues
right now seem to me to be legal, not medical.

Typical sources of help for situations like your include (usually
free) legal aid, social workers, pro bono legal advisers (they work
without a fee as a contribution to the community), and some kinds of
charity groups.  Depending on the situation where you are, these
resources may be very scarce or readily available.

>Sorry Andrew if I offended your newly Jesus freak ears but YOU told me
>I had a Magnesium sulfate overdose and even my dumb-a.s figured out
>that is a LIE.

I do notice that you have discerned the nature of Dr. Chung's helpful
suggestions.

Seriously, I do hope you find help to work your way through this
nightmare.
Signature

Don Kirkman
donsno2@charter.net

Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 25 Jul 2008 02:14 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Love Truth Delicatepuzzle wrote
> in article
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> pointing out the inaccuracies in his message, which was about specific
> points of law and procedures.

Down boy, you don't have to get so defensive.  I just asked thinking
you MIGHT have some idea of how to go about, "going to the media"
since I have been told that by all kinds of legal types including FBI
and you DID crow about being such an experienced justice type.  Of
course NONE of THEM could tell me how to do it either.

> I sympathize with you and your struggles, but I'm not the person for
> you to be asking about what you should do--and neither is Dr. Chung.
> He is notorious for his inaccurate medical comments, but your issues
> right now seem to me to be legal, not medical.

You say you're not the person to ask yet you feel you must tell me
what my issues are.  I feel less hungry when you do that.

> Typical sources of help for situations like your include (usually
> free) legal aid, social workers, pro bono legal advisers (they work
> without a fee as a contribution to the community), and some kinds of
> charity groups.  Depending on the situation where you are, these
> resources may be very scarce or readily available.

Belabor the obvious or DUUHHH.  I know typical; I also know my
situation is atypical.  Surely you can't think that I have not done
all of the above many times.

> >Sorry Andrew if I offended your newly Jesus freak ears but YOU told me
> >I had a Magnesium sulfate overdose and even my dumb-a.s figured out
> >that is a LIE.
>
> I do notice that you have discerned the nature of Dr. Chung's helpful
> suggestions.

Dr. Chung is not perfect.

> Seriously, I do hope you find help to work your way through this
> nightmare.

Feel the love.  Not.  Find a soul....I did, in the 4th grade.
> --
> Don Kirkman
> dons...@charter.net
Truth - 25 Jul 2008 14:56 GMT
On Jul 24, 6:14 pm, Love Truth Delicatepuzzle <FAIRPUZZ...@gmail.com>
wrote:
<trollop's troubles tidbits trimmed>

In what way are you hoping that stem cell research will help you or
your son?
Cary Kittrell - 25 Jul 2008 16:53 GMT
> > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Love Truth Delicatepuzzle wrote
> > in article
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>
> Feel the love.  Not.  Find a soul....I did, in the 4th grade.

Um, did someone run over your dog?

-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Jul 2008 19:01 GMT
> > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
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> > > >I had a Magnesium sulfate overdose and even my dumb-a.s figured out
> > > >that is a LIE.

Possibilities are not lies.

> > > I do notice that you have discerned the nature of Dr. Chung's helpful
> > > suggestions.
> >
> > Dr. Chung is not perfect.

Getting there with GOD's help :-)

"Be perfect for your Father in heaven is perfect." -- LORD Jesus
Christ

Yes, my LORD.

"Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD Jesus
Christ

Yes, my LORD.

"With man this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible." --
LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26).

> > > Seriously, I do hope you find help to work your way through this
> > > nightmare.
> >
> > Feel the love.  Not.  Find a soul....I did, in the 4th grade.
>
> Um, did someone run over your dog?

Clearly, you are still not among the discerning:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a88f3caf4697e3e7?

GOD did take a beloved horse from dear Laura.  It is possible for her
to see that horse again in heaven if she wisely chooses to trust GOD
by publicly declaring with her mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d

May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
for your perishing soul, dear Cary:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c7bedfac3f61358?

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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Cary Kittrell - 25 Jul 2008 19:14 GMT
> > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
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>
> Possibilities are not lies.

Your problems with attributions demonstrate clearly that
you are not among the discerning.

-- cary

> > > > I do notice that you have discerned the nature of Dr. Chung's helpful
> > > > suggestions.
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> --
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Jul 2008 19:35 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> > "With man this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible." --
> > LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26).

Amen.

> > > > > Seriously, I do hope you find help to work your way through this
> > > > > nightmare.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Your problems with attributions demonstrate clearly that
> you are not among the discerning.

This remains easy for me with GOD's help :-)

Laus Deo !!!

May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
for your perishing soul, dear Cary:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c7bedfac3f61358?

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 25 Jul 2008 19:39 GMT
On Jul 25, 11:01 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you Andrew.  I feel hungrier.

Laura Lynn (Halvarson) Stanbery
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Jul 2008 19:53 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> > > > You say you're not the person to ask yet you feel you must tell me
> > > > what my issues are. I feel less hungry when you do that.

That would be LORD Almighty GOD frowning at our dear convicted
neighbor, Don Kirkman:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0d7048a29e85b87e?

> > > > > Typical sources of help for situations like your include (usually
> > > > > free) legal aid, social workers, pro bono legal advisers (they work
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
>
> Thank you Andrew.

Laus Deo :-)

It is His heaven after all :-))

> I feel hungrier.

That does mean GOD is blessing you right now (Luke 6:21).

May GOD bless you in His mighty way more that He has ever blessed you
before thereby making you ever healthier (hungrier) as He humbles you
so that you will have His strength to do what He desires of you, dear
Laura.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 25 Jul 2008 19:45 GMT
On Jul 25, 11:01 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Dear Andrew, I am hungrier thinking of the opportunity to declare
publicly with my mouth that, "Jesus is Lord."

I now know I was wrong to search for Love and Truth without Jesus
Christ.  Thank you dear Andrew.
Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 25 Jul 2008 20:33 GMT
On Jul 25, 11:01 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> Possibilities are not lies.

Possible because it was in my redacted records.  A lie because it was
NOT on itemized bill.  I got to Parkland at Approximately 10PM,
(admission 10:26PM) on May 25th, 1997.  The bill states that I
received these items on May 25, 1997:

1- $77.44  Immune serum globulin 10
1- $6.02   Lidocaine 1% 5ml
1- $6.97   Metoclopromid  5mg/ml 2
4- $13.64  Oxytocin 10U/1ml UD
2- $3.96   Shouls soln. UD 15ml
2- $6.48   Sodium Chloride 0.9%, 5ml
1- $5.00   Succinyl Choline 20mg/ml

Sorry Dear Andrew for being disrespectful and please forgive me.
Thank you for not giving up on me and thank you for hitting me over
the head with Jesus.  I was wrong to doubt. I am WAY behind you in
perfection but I am behind you.  Please understand that I only wanted
the Truth and was looking for it in a spirit of Love.  Thank you.
Thank you.

Thank you God.

Warmly,  Laura Lynn (Halvarson) Stanbery

> > > > I do notice that you have discerned the nature of Dr. Chung's helpful
> > > > suggestions.
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Jul 2008 01:23 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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> 2- $6.48   Sodium Chloride 0.9%, 5ml
> 1- $5.00   Succinyl Choline 20mg/ml

Not giving high-dose parenteral magnesium to a woman in pre-term labor
to try to stop the contractions would be malpractice.

Your bill does not include liter bags of normal saline (0.9% NaCl)
which would have been the "piggyback" vehicle for all the other IV
medications you are documented to have received.  The magnesium would
have been injected into those "missing" bags of normal saline.

> Sorry Dear Andrew for being disrespectful and please forgive me.

Would not have been able to pray for you if I had not already forgiven
you :-)

"Forgive them Father for they know not what they are doing." -- LORD
Jesus Christ dying on the cross so that our sins would be forgiven.

> Thank you for not giving up on me and thank you for hitting me over
> the head with Jesus.

Laus Deo :-)

> I was wrong to doubt.

Without the LORD, we are simply wrong in everything we do.

> I am WAY behind you in
> perfection but I am behind you.

Your walk with LORD Jesus Christ is all your own.

You are following Him and not me.

Therefore, you are not behind me.

In our walk with Jesus, He helps us put satan behind us:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/37984ec9be787bb2?

> Please understand that I only wanted
> the Truth and was looking for it in a spirit of Love.

Indeed, hunger is wanting the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ.

HE is literally our bread from heaven.

> Thank you.
> Thank you.

Laus Deo :-)

> Thank you God.
>
> Warmly,  Laura Lynn (Halvarson) Stanbery

May GOD bless you, dear Laura, in His mighty way more that He has ever
blessed you before, thereby making you ever healthier (hungrier) than
ever as He humbles you so that you will have His strength to do as He
desires of you.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 26 Jul 2008 14:24 GMT
On Jul 25, 5:23 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh.  So I guess I delivered my son vaginally.  I guess that might
explain why my classical emergency c-section was put together with
skin glue and butterfly bandaids.

I had to have my second son and my daughter by classical c-section
because I had been told that I must have these again because I had
already had one.  Skin glue and bandaids were not enough to keep me
together those times.  I got metal staples like a zipper on those 2.

Funny thing was that the doctor left huge black sutures in me which
abcessed for 15 months until I went to a wound specialist because a
red/black bubble was fixing to erupt out of my skin. The doctor
eventually sent his employee to walmart to get a crochet hook to dig
the stitches out.  We did that for several weeks while he complained
that those stitches should have never been used.  He took pictures for
me and told me to sue the doctor.  He eventually had to give me a
spinal and excise the necrotic tissue.  It left a hole in my stomach
from Jan. 2, 2003 until April.  The first packing included 7 12-ply
4x4 guaze sponges...yeah, that's a big wad.  I removed it myself and
repacked it daily.  Nobody wanted to help me in my family because it
was very gross pulling that gauze out every day because it would stick
to the hole and it had to be yanked out.  I was offered home-health to
do it for me but I declined.  I did not want any medical people in my
house.  I did it myself.  My family did take plenty of video because
to them, it was like a horror movie.  I laughed because I knew I was
alive and getting better.  Eventually it was 6 gauze, 5 gauze, 3
gauze....and then it was 2x2 gauze and then it was just a puckered
hole.  I never sued because I did not think it was as big of a mistake
as everybody else did.  I kept thinking, "this is a cake-walk"
compared to what happened to me at Parkland.  My husband was
completely over-the-edge by this last medical misadventure.  He
freaked out and left on Easter Sunday April 20th, 2003.

The boys and I were going to Sunday School.  We forgot the camera, (I
wanted to take their pictures in the bluebonnets) so we went home and
daddy had half his stuff packed.  He had planned to leave while we
were at church.  It was a wierd day.  I was relieved though because
now he would not be yelling at me daily to, "Get up and DO something,
go to work, there is nothing wrong with you.  You have a college
degree, you can make more money than me.  If something was wrong with
you, the doctors would have told you by now.  You can't tell me that
they ALL have lied to you...THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU OR ELSE A
DOCTOR WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU BY NOW."  Yep, I was glad to see him go
because he never could wrap his brain around my situation.  Neither
one of us knew at the time that my "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" was due
to brainstem injury at Parkland on May 25th, 1997.

It was wrong that he could not believe me instead choosing to believe
the doctors.  I found that he was in denial because to believe the
TRUTH would be to admit that his world was not a safe place.  I don't
blame him for handling things the way he has.  He has done the best he
can do.

The best thing about us splitting up is that I met the love of my
life, Jim.  Ironically, we met on Halloween night 2003.  We have been
together ever since.  He has no problem believing me because his world
was never a very safe place.  Together we have Morgan, our daughter.
Jim tells everybody he has 3 kids.  He jumped in and became a dad for
the boys from the beginning.  He is a rough, tough, country guy whom
has more real decency and sense of right than any doctor I have met.
Funny thing about it, he grew up hungry.

Laura ---whom has lived one more day to tell her story.  Thank you
Jesus.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Jul 2008 16:02 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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>
> Oh.  So I guess I delivered my son vaginally.

Not if enough IV magnesium was given to stop the uterine contractions.

> I guess that might
> explain why my classical emergency c-section was put together with
> skin glue and butterfly bandaids.

Too much IV magnesium would.

> I had to have my second son and my daughter by classical c-section
> because I had been told that I must have these again because I had
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> completely over-the-edge by this last medical misadventure.  He
> freaked out and left on Easter Sunday April 20th, 2003.

May GOD bless him.

> The boys and I were going to Sunday School.  We forgot the camera, (I
> wanted to take their pictures in the bluebonnets) so we went home and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> one of us knew at the time that my "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" was due
> to brainstem injury at Parkland on May 25th, 1997.

May GOD bless you.

> It was wrong that he could not believe me instead choosing to believe
> the doctors.  I found that he was in denial because to believe the
> TRUTH would be to admit that his world was not a safe place.  I don't
> blame him for handling things the way he has.  He has done the best he
> can do.

The world remains curse since sin entered it:

http://SecondLaw.com

> The best thing about us splitting up is that I met the love of my
> life, Jim.  Ironically, we met on Halloween night 2003.  We have been
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> has more real decency and sense of right than any doctor I have met.
> Funny thing about it, he grew up hungry.

The righteous are hungry because GOD delights in those who are
righteous :-)

> Laura ---whom has lived one more day to tell her story.  Thank you
> Jesus.

Laus Deo :-)

Be hungrier, which is healthier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 26 Jul 2008 17:57 GMT
On Jul 26, 8:02 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 145 lines]
> Be hungrier, which is healthier:
>Something  else happened besides a Mg. overdose.  I had a reaction to something else.  Is that so hard to believe?  I was having a reaction when I thought in the OR that the lady who kept putting my lower abdominal monitor back on was shaking.  I SAW this with my own eyes!  Everybody was cussing and scrambling about.  Several doctors were examining my crotch and the lower abdominal monitor popped off at least three times.  Every time she would reconnect it, she was shaking.  I was still doing healing breathing at this time so I remember it vividly.  The last time it popped off and went flying off to the right, she bent over to pick it up and then threw it down and said, "f.ck it".  The doctors were busy between my legs doing something. Maybe they were giving the interuterine oxytocin.  Hmmm...I see my son having his first real birthday party next May 25th. It was then that the guy on my left yelled at me again to quit breathing so hard.  I was in indescribible pain....I could not control it....it went past nauseating so fast that I did not even get a chance to be nauseated.  I escalated to a level that forced me to beg my body to die so that I could be out of pain.  He put the oxygen mask on my face, yelled again, "Quit breathing so hard, its just oxygen!"  and then he pinched the tube and the mask sucked to my face....I passed out.

I woke up and asked what happened.  I heard lies.  My chest and neck
and back hurt so bad that it was hard to breath.  I have never been
the same since.

Love, Laura

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Jul 2008 03:49 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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>
> Something  else happened besides a Mg. overdose.

Possibly.

> I had a reaction to something else.  Is that so hard to believe?

No.

>  I was having a reaction when I thought in the OR that the lady who kept putting my
>  lower abdominal monitor back on was shaking.  I SAW this with my own eyes!
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> and back hurt so bad that it was hard to breath.  I have never been
> the same since.

It is possible you went into cardiopulmonary arrest and had to be
resuscitated with chest compressions and defibrillatory shocks.

May GOD bless you in His mighty way more that He has ever blessed you
before thereby making you ever hungrier (healthier) as He humbles you
so that you will have His strength to do that which He desires, dear
Laura.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
fairpuzzled@frys.com - 27 Jul 2008 16:01 GMT
On Jul 26, 9:49 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 186 lines]
> Andrew <><
> --http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?

Good Morning from Laura Lynn (Halvarson) Stanbery.  1806 Private Road
2290, Quinlan, TX 75474.  Phone: 214-808-8781

Praise God.  I woke up thankful for another day.  Yesterday my goog.
and yah. accts were taken away from me.  I lost all of my email.  I
cannot even access my saved emails including all the emails I saved
when my brother, MICHAEL WAYNE HALVARSON (42) died last year.  His
friends were awesome and gave him the greatest memorial.  I had saved
all the emails never thinking that goog.would take them away.  I was
too busy with trying to maintain/improve my health and severe fatigue
to copy them.  It is another very sad loss to have the emails where we
planned his obituary and memorial taken from me.

I created another account and will continue to create accounts until I
can't anymore.    I am a victim of medical conspiracy and I have the
documents to prove it.  I need help.  I am trying to tell my WHOLE
story.  I need proper, (healing) medical care to fix and undo damage
done iatrogenically.   Only GOD has gotten me this far.  I will do all
I can to bring to light the story so that others may be saved from
similar harm.  I need help to do this.  My phone may say that it is
not working, but it is.  My emails disappear.  I need help to get
around these little annoyances.

See this site to find out what others in the world have done to stop
this abuse:

www.ieu-alliance.org/EnglishDecl.html

Love,

Laura Lynn (Halvarson) Stanbery
1806 County Road 2290
Quinlan, TX  75474
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Jul 2008 18:27 GMT
friend fairpuzz...@frys.com wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >  http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/27f2d9cdf92718ba?
>
> Praise God.

Laus Deo :-)

>  I woke up thankful for another day.  Yesterday my goog.
> and yah. accts were taken away from me.  I lost all of my email.  I
> cannot even access my saved emails including all the emails I saved
> when my brother, MICHAEL WAYNE HALVARSON (42) died last year.

You have my condolences for your losses.

> His
> friends were awesome and gave him the greatest memorial.  I had saved
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> story.  I need proper, (healing) medical care to fix and undo damage
> done iatrogenically.   Only GOD has gotten me this far.

GOD is the Source of all healing.

HE is the Great Physician.

> I will do all
> I can to bring to light the story so that others may be saved from
> similar harm.  I need help to do this.  My phone may say that it is
> not working, but it is.  My emails disappear.  I need help to get
> around these little annoyances.

When GOD blesses you, He is helping you :-)

> See this site to find out what others in the world have done to stop
> this abuse:
>
> www.ieu-alliance.org/EnglishDecl.html

Thus, it remains much smarter, to eat less, down to the right amount
to become healthier (hungrier) than ever in order to avoid needing
acute medical care:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?

May GOD bless you in His mighty way more that He has ever blessed you
before, thereby making you healthier (hungrier) than ever as He
humbles you, so that you will have His strength to do what He desires
of you, dear Laura.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/117245343707310e?
obviouspuzzle@gmail.com - 27 Jul 2008 20:07 GMT
On Jul 27, 10:27 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> friend fairpuzz...@frys.com wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
> Andrew <><
> --http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/117245343707310e?

Thank you Dear Andrew.  I am hungrier.  Love, Laura Lynn (Halvarson)
Stanbery
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Jul 2008 20:18 GMT
friend  Laura (obviouspuz...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >  http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9170bf2990e4dd1e?
>
> Thank you Dear Andrew.

Laus Deo :-)

>  I am hungrier.

That would be LORD Almighty GOD blessing you right now ! ! !  (per a
discerning understanding of Luke 6:21)

And, so you feel GOD's smile even though you may not see GOD's
face :-)

May you and other dear friends have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year
since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is healthier.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
obviouspuzzle@gmail.com - 29 Jul 2008 09:19 GMT
On Jul 27, 12:18 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> friend  Laura (obviouspuz...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
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> Andrew <><
> --http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?

Dearest Andrew,

Thank God for this day.  He has given me another day to tell the story
of THE PATIENT WHO REFUSED TO DIE.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Jul 2008 11:05 GMT
friend Laura (obviouspuz...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > friend Laura (obviouspuz...@gmail.com) wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Thank God for this day.

Laus Deo :-)

>  He has given me another day to tell the story
> of THE PATIENT WHO REFUSED TO DIE.

Cling to the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, and you will never die
because He is the Source of eternal life.

May you and other dear friends have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year
since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is healthier.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
obviouspuzzle@gmail.com - 29 Jul 2008 16:58 GMT
On Jul 29, 3:05 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> friend Laura (obviouspuz...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Dearest Andrew,  I am sorry our phone conversation got cut off.  I
appreciate the long talk we did have.  Love, Laura
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Jul 2008 17:37 GMT
friend obviouspuz...@gmail.com wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > friend Laura (obviouspuz...@gmail.com) wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Dearest Andrew,  I am sorry our phone conversation got cut off.

Our LORD remains in charge.

HE is sovereign over all.

> I appreciate the long talk we did have.  Love, Laura

Laus Deo :-)

Remember to take this time that HE has given you to love and teach
your children as we discussed.

You will know that this is what He desires of you when He smiles at
you, thereby blessing you and making you hungrier (healthier) than you
have ever been before.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
obviouspuzzle@gmail.com - 30 Jul 2008 13:55 GMT
On Jul 29, 9:37 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> friend obviouspuz...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Good Morning All You Sockpuppets!  God has blessed me with another
day.  I walked out in the pasture with the animals this morning and it
was so much fun.  I smiled as I thought about the day my story would
be heard and all the evil do-ers whom have harmed me and my family
would have to account for their deeds.  I especially warmed at the
thought of the fake Christians, whom have called me Satan and called
me evil, not being able to use their religious veil to hide behind.
They should find Jesus and become real Christians.

I thanked God with a laugh and a smile when the sun shined on me as I
thought of the day when a lawyer would decide it was time to expose
the truth of my harmful medical treatment.

My fondest dream, which I have told to many people including people
giving me medical "care" is this:  Me standing in an auditorium full
of the people whom have hurt me and lied to me and me forcing them the
listen to  the story of my life since May 25th, 1997.  I want to look
into their eyes and snap my fingers whenever any one of them is not
paying attention.  There are no pagers going off or long distance
phone calls that they can escape to.  They just have to sit there,
paying attention, as I tell of the harm done to me by doctors, social
workers, government employees, law enforcement, school
employees....etc...Yes,  this is the dream that drives me closer to
the TRUTH.  I want them to hear me.  I want to forgive them.  This
will be the day my spirit is free and I can be done with this
difficult job which God has given me.

My story really is not about me.  It is about all of us and what me
must do to fullfill our purpose in life and how sad it is when we
choose to take an easier path.  God will tell you what to do; what is
His plan.  It might seem easier to take your own path but in the end,
the only easy path is the right one which God has given you.

I AM A VICTIM OF MEDICAL CONSPIRACY, I HAVE DOCUMENTS TO PROVE IT AND
I NEED HELP.

Read my story, tell your friends, find my personal information and
give it to somebody.  I must tell my WHOLE story.  It is my purpose in
life.

Thank you.  I thank GOD for another day to tell my story and for
bringing me one day closer to the TRUTH.

Laura Lynn (Halvarson) Stanbery
1806 County Road 2290
Quinlan, TX  75474

214-808-8781

Born on February 18th, 1963 in Fairbanks, Alaska with a purpose and an
awesome love for all God's creatures especially horses.  My spirit
rides with horses.

In loving memory of Fairpuzzled.
Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 26 Jul 2008 17:23 GMT
On Jul 25, 5:23 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 115 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

You are right again.  My bill says I was admitted at 1:28AM on May
26th, 1997 and discharged at 4:58PM on June 2, 1997.  I got there on
May 25th, 1997 which I suspect is Barret's true birthday.  Because I
had such a hard time getting to fill out a birth certificate while I
was in Parkland, I called Social Security when I got home.  I called
to complain and the lady gasped and cried, "It's been 10 days and
there is no record that your son exists."  I told her that did not
surprise me because the hospital seemed to have many dysfunctions.
She said, "You don't understand, All children born in the U.S. must be
registered within 24 hours of birth.  It has been 10 days and there is
no record of your son."  She asked if he was alive.  She told me I was
in trouble and to consult an attorney.

My dad, Wayne D. Halvarson, told me to be honest.  That was how I was
raised.  He said if you tell the truth life is easier.  If you lie you
will have to keep lying.  He also told me the least trustworthy people
are fake Christains because it is easy for them to lie and then get it
off their conscience by saying a prayer.  He told me, "There is no
long-haired guy in the sky that takes away  your lies."  He is the one
that made me not believe in Jesus...he is also the one who taught me
to believe in TRUTH and LOVE which is GOD.  He may not have been right
about everything but he did raise me to be a good person.  He told
people, "Laura will tell you how it is, she is not afraid to tell the
truth.  You might not like it but it will be the truth."  Thanks to
dad, my favorite Huckleberry.

"This old Huckleberry knows how it is."-Wayne D. Halvarson

"I will tell you where the bear sh.t in the buckwheat."-Wayne D.
Halvarson

Love, Laura
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Jul 2008 18:07 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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>
> You are right again.

GOD is the Source of all righteousness.

> My bill says I was admitted at 1:28AM on May
> 26th, 1997 and discharged at 4:58PM on June 2, 1997.  I got there on
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> raised.  He said if you tell the truth life is easier.  If you lie you
> will have to keep lying.

Specifically, bearing false witness, which is being untruthful with
the intent to harm another, is lying.  This is breaking one of GOD's
ten commandments and is sin, which is doing that which GOD does not
desire.

> He also told me the least trustworthy people
> are fake Christains because it is easy for them to lie and then get it
> off their conscience by saying a prayer.

Actually a fake Christian is unable to pray with his/her heart.

> He told me, "There is no
> long-haired guy in the sky that takes away  your lies."

However, there is a GOD in heaven, Who is willing to forgive those who
have placed their faith in His one and only begotten Son, LORD Jesus
Christ (John 3:16).

> He is the one
> that made me not believe in Jesus.

Yet you love the truth, Who is the LORD Jesus Christ, though you don't
believe in Him.

>..he is also the one who taught me
> to believe in TRUTH and LOVE which is GOD.

GOD is love.

HE is also the truth.

"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John
14:6)

Amen,

> He may not have been right
> about everything but he did raise me to be a good person.  He told
> people, "Laura will tell you how it is, she is not afraid to tell the
> truth.  You might not like it but it will be the truth."

Those who love GOD love the truth.

> Thanks to
> dad, my favorite Huckleberry.

Thanks be to GOD, Who picked out your dad for you.

Laus Deo :-)

> "This old Huckleberry knows how it is."-Wayne D. Halvarson
>
> "I will tell you where the bear sh.t in the buckwheat."-Wayne D.
> Halvarson
>
> Love, Laura

It is possible that your dad is with GOD in heaven.

Only those who have blasphemed against the Holy Spirit are those who
will not be forgiven.  From what you have described about your dad, it
seems unlikely he would have lied about a Person he did not know by
blaspheming against Him, Who is the Spirit of truth.

Most assuredly, without doubt,  I know and understand GOD to be kind,
just, and right (Jeremiah 9:24).

May GOD bless you in His mighty way more that He has ever blessed you
before making you ever hungrier (healthier) as He humbles you so that
you will have His strength to do that which He desires of you, dear
Laura.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 25 Jul 2008 19:21 GMT
> In article <127c2b66-62e2-4a68-8cf9-3ef42e6cc...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> Love Truth Delicatepuzzle <FAIRPUZZ...@gmail.com> writes:
>
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>
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Yes. His name was Chewy; a rescued long-haired chihuahua.  He weighed
4 pounds and he was a very happy, lively dog.  He was run over earlier
this year.  I still have his puppies, Kissy and Hornet.  They survived
neurotoxic poisoning about a month back.  The vet said it seemed like
they got into maybe mushrooms or possibly some pills.  My Great
Pyrenees puppies were not so lucky.  The male died and the female
lives with neuro. damage.  Thanks for asking about Chewy.  He deserves
to be remembered.

Laura Lynn (Halvarson) Stanbery.

In Memory of my beloved Fairpuzzled.
Cary Kittrell - 25 Jul 2008 21:11 GMT
> > In article <127c2b66-62e2-4a68-8cf9-3ef42e6cc...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups=
> .com> Love Truth Delicatepuzzle <FAIRPUZZ...@gmail.com> writes:
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> lives with neuro. damage.  Thanks for asking about Chewy.  He deserves
> to be remembered.

I'm very sorry to hear that.  

-- cary

> Laura Lynn (Halvarson) Stanbery.
>
> In Memory of my beloved Fairpuzzled.
Love Truth Delicatepuzzle - 25 Jul 2008 22:56 GMT
> In article <953cebb1-711f-4624-9b67-826247aab...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Love Truth Delicatepuzzle <FAIRPUZZ...@gmail.com> writes:
>
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>
> -- cary

Thank you.  My family has suffered many loses.  I always tell my kids
that things WILL get better and I will feel better soon.  I also tell
them how sorry I am that I can't always keep my promises.

www.ieu-alliance.org/EnglishDecl.html

Help me to make things better.

Warmly, Laura Lynn (Halvarson) Stanbery

Fairpuzzled@gmail.com

> > Laura Lynn (Halvarson) Stanbery.
>
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Truth - 25 Jul 2008 23:39 GMT
On Jul 25, 2:56 pm, Love Truth Delicatepuzzle <FAIRPUZZ...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > In article <953cebb1-711f-4624-9b67-826247aab...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Love Truth Delicatepuzzle <FAIRPUZZ...@gmail.com> writes:
>
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In what way are you hoping that stem cell research will help you and
your son?
Cary Kittrell - 25 Jul 2008 16:51 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article
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> differ according to the jurisdiction.  My 23 years in government
> justice agencies vs. your 0 years.

Ah, but if one does not need all that messy time-consuming
so-called "science" when one is discerning, why would
one need either training or experience in legal matters
when discernment allows one snip right to the heart of
the matter?

Speaking of the law and snipping, remember this hilarious
thread?

   http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_frm/thread/b53762506dc4
4288/1575306824c237cb?#1575306824c237cb


-- cary

> >> -Nobody cares because doctors need to practice somewhere and folks
> >> backing the hospital with the big bucks expect to "lose a few for the
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> >> Oh and my VERY FAVORITE comment of all, heard ad nauseum....GOOD
> >> LUCK!!!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Jul 2008 15:27 GMT
satan masquerading as truth via a sockpuppet despairingly posted:

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4b033b31228e197f?

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Squashedsatan

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to rebuke you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...

.. by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

.. gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TruthRUS.org/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

.. for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://TruthRUS.org/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungrier, which is healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
 
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