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Question from a sci.med.cardiology newbie....

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Wayne - 02 Jul 2008 16:13 GMT
I have been reading this newsgroup for about 2 weeks, because I am
interested in scientific discussions of cardiology issues.

In that time, I have seen perhaps a dozen "on topic" postings, but about 90%
of the postings are either crossposted to the wrong group, and frankly seem
"nuts".

Is this normal for the group?
Susan - 02 Jul 2008 16:15 GMT
> I have been reading this newsgroup for about 2 weeks, because I am
> interested in scientific discussions of cardiology issues.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Is this normal for the group?

Yes, unfortunately.

Use your kill files liberally, but there's little else here now.

Susan
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Jul 2008 17:07 GMT
Posts by those with an interest in the heart, especially cardiologists, continue to be encouraged by the Moderator (GOD) of sci.med.cardiology.

Truth is simple :-)

May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...

.. by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

.. gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TruthRUS.org/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

.. for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://TruthRUS.org/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungrier, which is healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Dancing Monkey - 02 Jul 2008 17:32 GMT
> Posts by those with an interest in the heart, especially cardiologists,
> continue to be encouraged by the Moderator (GOD) of sci.med.cardiology.

This is not a moderated newsgroup.

> Truth is simple :-)

Indeed.

--
http://abchung.livejournal.com/  (now merely a suspended
journal)

Moronatha!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Jul 2008 21:31 GMT
satan via a sockpuppet(corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> > Posts by those with an interest in the heart, especially cardiologists,
> > continue to be encouraged by the Moderator (GOD) of sci.med.cardiology.
>
> This is not a moderated newsgroup.

That is what our dearly departed Bob (this one) Pastorio once thought.

He knows differently now:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/144a9929eb37ee47?

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
rebuke you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/31c3b88286afc5bd?

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is healthier.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Dancing Monkey - 02 Jul 2008 21:58 GMT
> satan via a sockpuppet(corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> That is what our dearly departed Bob (this one) Pastorio once thought.

This is the only place you are *allowed* to post without any restrictions.
This is fact.

You know what happened to your "Live" (now well departed) journal, don't
you?  Well, that's what happens when folks moderate stuff.  This is a
unmoderated newsgroup so you've been spared and your posts can get through.

I have thank LJ for the wonderful job, btw. ;-)
--
http://abchung.livejournal.com/  (no longer a "Live"
journal)

Moronatha!
Wayne - 02 Jul 2008 22:03 GMT
> satan via a sockpuppet(corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>
>> > Posts by those with an interest in the heart, especially cardiologists,
>> > continue to be encouraged by the Moderator (GOD) of sci.med.cardiology.

I guess my question is that if the Moderator just happens to be busy with
other stuff,  is there any intelligent discussion going on in
sci.med.cardiology. (note: non sci.med.cardiology groups snipped)
Bill - 02 Jul 2008 22:28 GMT
> > satan via a sockpuppet(corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> other stuff,  is there any intelligent discussion going on in
> sci.med.cardiology. (note: non sci.med.cardiology groups snipped)

There is no Moderator.  So we get what we deserve.  Feed the trolls and
you get more  nonsensical hits.  Ask a question or attempt to answer one
and the noises may be overwhelming but intellect may appear.

Discernment the key aka Kill file. Anything cross posted and I'll deep
six you.

 Bill

I've found that if I kill  Lord   God  Spirit  MD/Phd  Mu  Holy  Google  
it may function.

Signature

Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 03 Jul 2008 11:34 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/006bc729eb020bdb?
> >
> I guess my question is that if the Moderator just happens to be busy with
> other stuff...

Because GOD is a non-temporal Being, HE is never busy :-)

> ... is there any intelligent discussion going on in
> sci.med.cardiology.

That would depend on the participants and not the Moderator.

The longest thread of discussion on sci.med.cardiology contains 1631
posts some intelligent and some incoherent.

May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is healthier.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Cary Kittrell - 04 Jul 2008 00:31 GMT
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Because GOD is a non-temporal Being, HE is never busy :-)

And yet "HE" rested on the seventh day.

`Course "HE" was so much more anthropomorphic in those early days.
Sort of like Zeus or Loki or Ahura Mazda in that regard.

-- cary

> > ... is there any intelligent discussion going on in
> > sci.med.cardiology.
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> --
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 Jul 2008 03:58 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> And yet "HE" rested on the seventh day.

So it is written.

> `Course "HE" was so much more anthropomorphic in those early days.

We have been made in HIS image after all.

"Be perfect for your Father in heaven is perfect." -- LORD Jesus
Christ.

Amen.

> Sort of like Zeus or Loki or Ahura Mazda in that regard.

Incorrect.  Mythological works of fiction are invariably flawed and
fallible.

This simply shows that you continue to be guided by the spirit of
error (self) so that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1b584f9c6852c5fd?

May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
for your perishing soul, dear Cary:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c7bedfac3f61358?

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Thom Madura - 04 Jul 2008 11:47 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> We have been made in HIS image after all.

John 5:31
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

Humans made gods in their image an likeness - not the other way around
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 Jul 2008 02:47 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/47f39745373ddef5?
>
> John 5:31
> If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

"There is another who testifies in My favor, and I know that his
testimony about Me is valid." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 5:32)

Amen.

> Humans made gods in their image an likeness - not the other way around

With one Exception.

Jesus is Exceptional :-)

Your mistakes simply show that you continue to be guided by the spirit
of error (self) so that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1b584f9c6852c5fd

May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
for your perishing soul, dear Thom:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3cef85cf7bd411d0?

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Thom Madura - 05 Jul 2008 20:24 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/47f39745373ddef5?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Amen.

So clearly - one of the quotes is a lie - and they BOTH came from your
bible. Proof the bible is not "inspired" by a perfect spirit.

Amen
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 Jul 2008 22:21 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> So clearly - one of the quotes is a lie

Incorrect.

The first quote is a conditional "If" statement, which logically
produces a true result when the condition is met.

Because Jesus did **not** bear witness of Himself, this allows us to
know that His testimonies about **others** are true since the
condition of the first quote has been met.

The second quote is also true because whether the testimony of another
concerning self is valid would be knowable to self.  We know Jesus'
testimony concerning John the Baptist is true because He did **not**
bear witness of Himself thereby meeting the condition of the first
quote.

Your logical mistakes simply show that you continue to be guided by
the spirit of error (self) so that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right
to convict you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1b584f9c6852c5fd?

May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
for your perishing soul, dear Thom:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3cef85cf7bd411d0?

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Dancing Monkey - 05 Jul 2008 02:51 GMT
>> We have been made in HIS image after all.
>
> John 5:31
> If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
>
> Humans made gods in their image an likeness - not the other way around

Surely everyone would worship a GOD that looked exactly like our dear
spectacled Mr Chang?  :-)

--
http://abchung.livejournal.com/  ( GAME OVER ;-) )

Moronatha!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 Jul 2008 03:27 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c5c55fcace06864?

<><

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Dancing Monkey - 05 Jul 2008 03:43 GMT
http://snipurl.com/2u0wp

My Dear (spectacled) friend, Mr Chang....

Surely the phrase "The blind leading the blind" was coined with you in mind?
:-)

--
http://abchung.livejournal.com/  ( GAME OVER ;-) )

Moronatha!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 Jul 2008 13:50 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/04730a14f02655a8

<><

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Dancing Monkey - 05 Jul 2008 15:49 GMT
http://snipurl.com/2u0wp

We pray that he makes a speedy recovery and that his visual acuity
significantly improves, so he wouldn't need to wear a obnoxious-looking
corrective lens on each eye.  :-)

--
http://abchung.livejournal.com/  ( It's KAPUT  now!)

Myopic-ah!
Cary Kittrell - 07 Jul 2008 19:46 GMT
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> We have been made in HIS image after all.

Then we're "non-temporal" after all.

> "Be perfect for your Father in heaven is perfect." -- LORD Jesus
> Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Incorrect.  Mythological works of fiction are invariably flawed and
> fallible.

What's your problem with Promethius?  

-- cary

> This simply shows that you continue to be guided by the spirit of
> error (self) so that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> --
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 11 Jul 2008 18:08 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Then we're "non-temporal" after all.

Just as a graven image is temporal fading away with time, an image
captured in flesh fashioned from the dust of this dying world is
temporal wasting away with time.

Truth is simple.

Your clear lack of understanding simply shows that you continue to be
guided by the spirit of error(self) so that the Holy Spirit is
absolutely right to convict you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1b584f9c6852c5fd?

May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
for your perishing soul, dear Cary:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c7bedfac3f61358?

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
Mike Mordant - 02 Jul 2008 22:07 GMT
On Jul 2, 3:31 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet(corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> Andrew <><
> --http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?

Doc. -  Bob was not murdered by your imaginary playmate to make you
happy.
Dancing Monkey - 02 Jul 2008 22:15 GMT
> On Jul 2, 3:31 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>

>> > This is not a moderated newsgroup.
>>
>> That is what our dearly departed Bob (this one) Pastorio once thought.

> Doc. -  Bob was not murdered by your imaginary playmate to make you
> happy.

Well, Mr Chang was deeply envious of Bob (his success, family, his writing
skills etc.).  Bob was everything Chang could never be in 10 lifetimes :-).
Plus, Chang was regularly used by Bob for target practise LOL.  This
obviously has left our friend deeply *bothered*, to say the least LOL.

--
http://abchung.livejournal.com/  (no longer a "Live"
journal)

Moronatha!
Cary Kittrell - 04 Jul 2008 00:28 GMT
> satan via a sockpuppet(corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> That is what our dearly departed Bob (this one) Pastorio once thought.

And in that, as in so many things, he was both right and sane.

You should have taken notes while you had the opportunity.

(is this where you inform me that verses such as "A feast is made
for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things"
indicate that my opinions are meaningless?  Or will you just fearfully
snip before allowing others to read to this point twice?)

-- cary

> He knows differently now:
>
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> --
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4128be9f9918d825?
 
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