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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 May 2008 00:46 GMT Behold in wide-eyed wonder and disgust:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c4cde25888e09f52?
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
J A - 05 May 2008 01:03 GMT > Behold in wide-eyed wonder and disgust: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of > Man The Old Testament has Commandments which condemn worshipping gods other than yahweh, and idol worship (crosses etc.) - you do both.
According to the Ten Commandments, YOU are condemned.
There is no Commandment against atheism.
As to jesus being the messiah, why don't you refute what this rabbi has to say?
Jesus as the Messiah? by Rabbi Shraga Simmons
Question: Why did the majority of the Jewish world reject Jesus as the Messiah, and why did the first Christians accept Jesus as the Messiah?
Answer
It is important to understand why Jews don't believe in Jesus.
Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:
1) Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
2) Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
3) Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
4) Jewish belief is based on national revelation.
At the end of this article, we will examine these additional topics:
5) Christianity contradicts Jewish theology
6) Jews and Gentiles
7) Bringing the Messiah
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1) JESUS DID NOT FULFILL THE MESSIANIC PROPHECIES
What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will:
A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world -- on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).
The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic prophecies.
Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming, but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright, and no concept of a second coming exists.
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2) JESUS DID NOT EMBODY THE PERSONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF MESSIAH
A. MESSIAH AS PROPHET
Jesus was not a prophet. Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry. During the time of Ezra (circa 300 BCE), when the majority of Jews refused to move from Babylon to Israel, prophecy ended upon the death of the last prophets -- Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.
Jesus appeared on the scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had ended.
B. DESCENDENT OF DAVID
The Messiah must be descended on his father's side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). According to the Christian claim that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father -- and thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of being descended on his father's side from King David!
C. TORAH OBSERVANCE
The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The Torah states that all mitzvot remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)
Throughout the New Testament, Jesus contradicts the Torah and states that its commandments are no longer applicable. (see John 1:45 and 9:16, Acts 3:22 and 7:37)
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3) MISTRANSLATED VERSES "REFERRING" TO JESUS
Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew text -- which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation.
A. VIRGIN BIRTH
The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries later and translated it as "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth with the first century pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods.
B. CRUCIFIXION
The verse in Psalms 22:17 reads: "Like a lion, they are at my hands and feet." The Hebrew word ki-ari (like a lion) is grammatically similar to the word "gouged." Thus Christianity reads the verse as a reference to crucifixion: "They pierced my hands and feet."
C. SUFFERING SERVANT
Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the "suffering servant."
In actuality, Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52, describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people. The prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews ("Israel") are regarded as one unit. The Torah is filled with examples of the Jewish nation referred to with a singular pronoun.
Ironically, Isaiah's prophecies of persecution refer in part to the 11th century when Jews were tortured and killed by Crusaders who acted in the name of Jesus.
From where did these mistranslations stem? St. Gregory, 4th century Bishop of Nanianzus, wrote: "A little jargon is all that is necessary to impose on the people. The less they comprehend, the more they admire."
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4) JEWISH BELIEF IS BASED SOLELY ON NATIONAL REVELATION
Of the 15,000 religions in human history, only Judaism bases its belief on national revelation -- i.e. God speaking to the entire nation. If God is going to start a religion, it makes sense He'll tell everyone, not just one person.
Judaism, unique among all of the world's major religions, does not rely on "claims of miracles" as the basis for its religion. In fact, the Bible says that God sometimes grants the power of "miracles" to charlatans, in order to test Jewish loyalty to the Torah (Deut. 13:4).
Maimonides states (Foundations of Torah, ch. 8):
The Jews did not believe in Moses, our teacher, because of the miracles he performed. Whenever anyone's belief is based on seeing miracles, he has lingering doubts, because it is possible the miracles were performed through magic or sorcery. All of the miracles performed by Moses in the desert were because they were necessary, and not as proof of his prophecy.
What then was the basis of [Jewish] belief? The Revelation at Mount Sinai, which we saw with our own eyes and heard with our own ears, not dependent on the testimony of others... as it says, "Face to face, God spoke with you..." The Torah also states: "God did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us -- who are all here alive today." (Deut. 5:3)
Judaism is not miracles. It is the personal eyewitness experience of every man, woman and child, standing at Mount Sinai 3,300 years ago.
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5) CHRISTIANITY CONTRADICTS JEWISH THEOLOGY
The following theological points apply primarily to the Roman Catholic Church, the largest Christian denomination, and the one most familiar to the Western world.
A. GOD AS THREE?
The Catholic idea of Trinity breaks God into three separate beings: The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19).
Contrast this to the Shema, the basis of Jewish belief: "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE" (Deut. 6:4). Jews declare the Shema every day, while writing it on doorposts (Mezuzah), and binding it to the hand and head (Tefillin). This statement of God's One-ness is the first words a Jewish child is taught to say, and the last words uttered before a Jew dies.
In Jewish law, worship of a three-part god is considered idolatry -- one of the three cardinal sins that a Jew should rather give up his life than transgress. This explains why during the Inquisitions and throughout history, Jews gave up their lives rather than convert.
B. MAN AS GOD?
Christians believe that God came down to earth in human form, as Jesus said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).
Maimonides devotes most of the "Guide for the Perplexed" to the fundamental idea that God is incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no physical form. God is Eternal, above time. He is Infinite, beyond space. He cannot be born, and cannot die. Saying that God assumes human form makes God small, diminishing both His unity and His divinity. As the Torah says: "God is not a mortal" (Numbers 23:19).
Judaism says that the Messiah will be born of human parents, and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, and will not possess supernatural qualities. In fact, an individual is alive in every generation with the capacity to step into the role of the Messiah. (see Maimonides - Laws of Kings 11:3)xxx
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 May 2008 01:05 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
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J A - 05 May 2008 01:20 GMT > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan > > <>< <=== blasphmous idolic symbol
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Warns Warns of what? Does he give you weather reports?
Zen Cohen - 05 May 2008 01:16 GMT > Behold in wide-eyed wonder and disgust: Chung, you're the one who hasn't been able to distinguish children from adults because you've failed to draw that critical distinction when you incessantly post your 2-lb nonsense. You're either (a) grossly negligent, (b) a complete idiot, (c) a pathological liar, or (d) all three. (Answer: d)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 May 2008 01:31 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan
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yamantaka@aol.com - 05 May 2008 02:48 GMT On May 4, 4:46 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> Behold in wide-eyed wonder and disgust: > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c4cde25888e09f52? Behold! Chung admits he was wrong about 2 pounds per day being ideal for everyone. He also admits that even he finds himself and his sick ideas disgusting!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 May 2008 03:42 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/TooStupidsatan
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yamantaka@aol.com - 05 May 2008 03:45 GMT On May 4, 7:42 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TooStupidsatan > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan Yes Andrew. You were very stupid to think that anyone would accept that your 2PD nonsense had merit. Finally you are seeing the truth that it was a bad concept.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 May 2008 07:57 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
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yamantaka@aol.com - 05 May 2008 08:15 GMT On May 4, 11:57 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Warns Yes, Chung. You are doomed. Your Georgia medical license is being investigated. You lied when you reapplied for it and didn't disclose that you had lost your medical staff privileges in Ocala. You have also been warned that the IRS is interested in your claims of a 2 million dollar guarantee. Feeling anxious Chung? You should be getting your tax forms in order round about now.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 May 2008 08:51 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesssatan
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yamantaka@aol.com - 05 May 2008 09:04 GMT On May 5, 12:51 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesssatan > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Warns Yes, Chung. We all know there is no value to what you have to say. You are delusional and a liar. And now you have publically admitted that the 2PD is a trash fabrication and not based on science or accurate interpretation of Scripture.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 May 2008 11:19 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan
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yamantaka@aol.com - 05 May 2008 15:54 GMT On May 5, 3:19 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Warns You should be despairing, Chung. No one listens to your silly ideas since they have no merit. Your claims to "walk with Jesus" aren't true, since you are a liar and a vindictive, petty evil person convicting anyone who doesn't agree with your nonsense. You are delusional in your claims that the Holy Spirit speaks to you or through you. You spend your days trolling on the Newsgroups and giving bad medical advice.
You've been warned: the IRS will soon be investigating your publically published lies and claims lies about having 2 million dollars. Better get cracking on those tax forms.
"Chung is evil and doesn't speak for me" ---the Holy Spirit
Now Chung, post after me like you always do. You are not able to resist doing so.
Preventer of Work - 06 May 2008 03:47 GMT > http://HeartMcPhuD.com/ToastAndJam > > <>< > > http://HeartMcPhuD.com/ToothCutsBabySatan Dear Andrew Chung
How are you? I am fine.
Today we had a picnic in Hell. We played pin the flaming tail on the Chungster. It was fun. Now you are back in your earthly realm for a short time, I hope you aren't mad at us.
Ta Ta, Andrew
Your Preventer in Hell with you
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 06 May 2008 09:42 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Flailingsatan
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