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Chung, his Wellness Foundation and the IRS
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yamantaka@aol.com - 24 Apr 2008 18:22 GMT Hey Chung, How about posting the Form 990 for The Wellness Foundation, Inc for 2007? It's a public, non profit so it is public information. What were the income and expenses for your public charity 2007?
http://thewellnessfoundation.com/
I am specifically referring to 501(c)(3) FEIN# 56-2425284.
I notice that it lists the address of 6041 Colt Ridge Trail, Ste 2C, Mableton, GA 30126 which is a residence you own. Are you having the revenue from the Wellness Foundation, Inc pay for your mortgage? Inquiring minds want to know. The IRS does too.
Well, what do you know? The IRS accepts anonymous tips about suspected fraud:
http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html
Phobos - 24 Apr 2008 18:38 GMT > Well, what do you know? The IRS accepts anonymous tips about suspected > fraud: > > http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html Since the IRS pays a share to those who report this, it is nice of you to offer to share it with others since I would assume you have already done so.
You have done so - haven't you or is it just talk and no action.
Dancing Monkey - 24 Apr 2008 19:02 GMT > Hey Chung, How about posting the Form 990 for The Wellness Foundation, > Inc for 2007? It's a public, non profit so it is public information. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html How could you even possibly suspect the right honorable and honest Dr Chung of comitting a heinous act as fraud. I am sure such deeds do not even cross his mind, let alone committing them! Why are you intent on smearing his reputation?
Well, I am sure that Dr Chung will clear this little confusion you appear to be having at the earlist opportunity!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Apr 2008 20:50 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Feeblesatan
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J666 - 24 Apr 2008 21:01 GMT http://CelestialChicken.org/FriedEgg/Teaches
Better to light a candle than curse the dark.
The Celestial Chicken teaches and sets an example so people want to follow rather than being frighteneed not to follow.
Do you want to live postively or negatively.
Do you want to live looking forward or over your shoulder.
The Celestial Chicken's teaching are very simple just like the truth is simple.
Machete - 25 Apr 2008 04:35 GMT > Hey Chung, How about posting the Form 990 for The Wellness Foundation, > Inc for 2007? It's a public, non profit so it is public information. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html Yes, the IRS is busy this time of year and their wheels of justice often get off to a slow start but it certainly couldn't hurt. A 501 (c)(3) huh Wanger? So donations to your so-called charity are tax deductible? Something about that just doesn't smell right to me, perhaps I'd better check it out for myself.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 05:53 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets
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yamantaka@aol.com - 25 Apr 2008 14:50 GMT On Apr 24, 9:53 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Warns Chung, I state information, presumably true and factual since you disclosed it on your own website about the tax status of your own public charitable foundation, The Wellness Center, Inc. I then ask you reasonable questions such as if you plan to post your Form 990 tax return stating income and expenses for 2007. Instead of answering these questions rationally, you post your usual nonsense links. Very rude of you to do so. Are you that far gone mentally? If so, you shouldn't be managing a charitable, tax exempt trust that has at least 2 million (your claims in your press releases) in it.
Now, let's try again:
Hey Chung, How about posting the Form 990 for The Wellness Foundation, Inc for 2007? It's a public, non profit so it is public information. What were the income and expenses for your public charity 2007?
http://thewellnessfoundation.com/
I am specifically referring to 501(c)(3) FEIN# 56-2425284.
I notice that it lists the address of 6041 Colt Ridge Trail, Ste 2C, Mableton, GA 30126 which is a residence you own. Are you having the revenue from the Wellness Foundation, Inc pay for your mortgage? Inquiring minds want to know. The IRS does too.
Well, what do you know? The IRS accepts anonymous tips about suspected fraud:
http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html
And while you're at it, please post where I can verify that the 2 million dollars promised in your guarantee actually exists. This should be public information. No one should have to send you $30 via Paypal to get this information. Something does seem suspicious and the more you mince and jive and avoid giving a straight forward answer, the worse you look.
guardian Snow - 25 Apr 2008 15:09 GMT On Apr 25, 11:50 pm, yamant...@aol.com wrote:
> On Apr 24, 9:53 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > more you mince and jive and avoid giving a straight forward answer, > the worse you look. Would you post this on my site?
http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam
I'd like to centralize some of the information about chung for other people.
Thanks,
Snow
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Phobos - 25 Apr 2008 15:45 GMT > Would you post this on my site? > > http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam From your site you posted: "So far, while a lot of people are having a quick look at this site, only 3 people have actually taken the time to post something. Thats a bit of a let down to me and I have to wonder if people actually agree with Dr. Chung."
Rather than agreeing with Chung, it is probably that most just do not care about Chung to take the time to sign in to Google and go to the web site for your group and also realize that is would be hard for any intelligent person to accept medical advice on an Internet group and especially from Chung after reading only a few of his posts. There is basically a handful of people who do most of the posts.
A few still try to argue and reason with Chung despite Chung's repetitive postings. A few others mock him which can be fun to read, but after a while the repetitive anti-Chung posts become like Chung's repetitive posts.
Chung is delusional, but he is also a troll and this justs feeds the troll in Chung more even if it goes beyond 2 pounds a day of bullshit.
guardian Snow - 25 Apr 2008 16:37 GMT > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 9:09:42 -0500, guardian Snow wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Chung is delusional, but he is also a troll and this justs feeds the troll in > Chung more even if it goes beyond 2 pounds a day of bullshit. I've set the group settings so that "anybody" can post. I'm not certain but I don't think you have to actually sign into google to post a message.
Did you try to post a message?
I understand what your saying but the goal is that so much proof is built up, google has to take some action and ban his account. I agree with you about Chung being "delusional" but I also know that their is always somebody out in this lost and confused world that might actually take to believing him. I think "real Doctors" and intelligent people need to put some opinions down in a central location that people can refer to...
http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam
That way when people "google" the good Doctor's name.. they at least have a second opinion to refer to. Outside of that, I completely agree with you. Thanks for at least having a look:)
Shalom,
Snow
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J666 - 25 Apr 2008 16:57 GMT > I've set the group settings so that "anybody" can post. I'm not > certain but I don't think you have to actually sign into google to > post a message. > > Did you try to post a message? Unless the group is part of the usenet, which is not that easy to do, I do not think news readers let you post or even read your group - what is the address of the group to put in a news reader to post like use here "sci.med.cardiology."
Otherwise, you have to sign on in the google web page site to even post to a group that allows non-members to vote which means cannot use some made up email address but have to use a google, hotmail or yahoo type of address.
So unless there is a way for news readers to read and post, someone would have to go to the google web site where you can read but not post without signing in and that may be part of the problem.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 17:05 GMT > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > to accept medical advice on an Internet group and especially from Chung after > reading only a few of his posts. Actually, GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to provide specific medical advice. It remains my choice to do what GOD desires.
> There is basically a handful of people who do most of the posts. Indeed:
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> A few still try to argue and reason with Chung despite Chung's repetitive > postings. Creatures of darkness are inexorably drawn to the light of the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ.
> A few others mock him which can be fun to read, but after a while > the repetitive anti-Chung posts become like Chung's repetitive posts. It remains wise to rebuke satan at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires and then put him behind you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
"Get behind me, satan!" -- LORD Jesus Christ rebuking satan and putting him behind HIM.
> Chung is delusional... Your false witness is forgiven by me.
This simply shows that you are among the lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheLost
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more special...
... we are simply forgiven by GOD:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
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Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
guardian Snow - 25 Apr 2008 18:03 GMT On Apr 26, 2:05 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> Creatures of darkness are inexorably drawn to the light of the truth, > Who is LORD Jesus Christ. We are people Chung, not "Creatures of darkness". I'm a person and a nice Christian at that you are the one that takes it upon yourself to be judge of the world.
> > A few others mock him which can be fun to read, but after a while > > the repetitive anti-Chung posts become like Chung's repetitive posts. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "Get behind me, satan!" -- LORD Jesus Christ rebuking satan and > putting him behind HIM. You do realize you just put yourself as Jesus Christ and are calling real people "Satan". Now I realize you might not think it's nice but your NOT JESUS and were NOT SATAN.
> > Chung is delusional... > > Your false witness is forgiven by me. We're not Sock Puppets either. Let me save you the time...
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Enjoy,
Snow
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 18:23 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Sissysatan
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Machete - 25 Apr 2008 18:44 GMT > On Apr 26, 2:05 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > /XXXXXX/^\XDCAU\ > ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ Actually, that's shaped a little more like Chung's head.
yamantaka@aol.com - 25 Apr 2008 16:50 GMT > On Apr 25, 11:50 pm, yamant...@aol.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Snow, go ahead and post this on your site. Per Chung's own "press releases" he states that he sold the domain name emorycardiology.com to an anonymous benefactor for 1 million dollars on 9/11/07 after negotioations with Emory "broke down."
That is why I am curious to see the tax forms for his public charity for 2007. I am also curious as to where these funds (no 2 million dollars) are held.
http://www.heartmdphd.com/press.asp
Chung's incessant spam posts and boasts and arrogance have invited this scrutiny. He should be accountable for his claims.
guardian Snow - 25 Apr 2008 17:50 GMT On Apr 26, 1:50 am, yamant...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Apr 25, 11:50 pm, yamant...@aol.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > Chung's incessant spam posts and boasts and arrogance have invited > this scrutiny. He should be accountable for his claims. Thank you Dr. I appreciate that very much and I just posted it. I would also like to put more medical opinions about some of his wild "black fats" claims and other non sense.
I seriously think it's dangerous to post some of the claims he makes when you consider that he doesn't know the condition of the people that might want to take the advice of a 'doctor'. I could look past the spamming if the message wasn't so dangerous.
Thats why I took the extreme measure to make a dedicated google site.
http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam
With respect,
Snow
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Pastor Dave - 25 Apr 2008 18:31 GMT >On Apr 25, 7:09 am, guardian Snow ><snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >for 2007. I am also curious as to where these funds (no 2 million >dollars) are held. You're curious to see how you can crucify someone and use usenet to do it, while pretending to be a "good person"! (:
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 18:44 GMT > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > > satan via another sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > and use usenet to do it, while pretending to be a > "good person"! (: Since Jesus' resurrection, satan has had all power and authority is this world stripped from him. This is why he is now...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesssatan
That you still don't recognize this simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May we, who are Christians, continue to pray for your perishing soul, dear Dave:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForDave
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guardian Snow - 25 Apr 2008 18:59 GMT > You're curious to see how you can crucify someone > and use usenet to do it, while pretending to be a > "good person"! (: No, I'm a good person and reasonable. If Chung agreed not to spam, I'd be happy to delete the group. I don't want to harm Chung, I'm just tired of logging on and seeing a entire front page loaded with his 2 link spams. I posted an example of this on the web site front page from TODAY when I logged on and took a screen shot of alt.messianic.
He spamming 5 boards and thats just silly!
I would point out that when you stopped spamming the groups Dave, I left you alone too. I've always treated you with respect or at least have done my best to do so.
The least he could do is have a cool fish!
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Phobos - 25 Apr 2008 19:20 GMT > No, I'm a good person and reasonable. If Chung agreed not to spam, > I'd be happy to delete the group. I don't want to harm Chung, I'm just [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > He spamming 5 boards and thats just silly! Chung is also a troll and a troll thrives and needs your responses, like we need oxygen, to live.
Since Chung has been doing this for years on these groups and evidently on medical sites like Sermo, despite repeated criticism and questions and mockiing by many others and so to think that further comments will make him change is as unrealistic as many of Chung's statement. At least the mockings can be fun to read, but I have to wonder if you, like some other wanna-bees like yamantaka, are really posting as trolls in your persistent and mainly repetitive posts.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 19:26 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForPhobos
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guardian Snow - 25 Apr 2008 19:37 GMT > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:59:15 -0500, guardian Snow wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > like yamantaka, are really posting as trolls in your persistent and mainly > repetitive posts. Fair comment Phobos. I am in fact, trolling the troll..
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Here's a good fish for Chung to use in his post:)
I'll leave it be for a while.. but do me a small favor and post a message on the board:)
http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam
with respect,
Snow
Phobos - 25 Apr 2008 20:26 GMT > I am in fact, trolling the troll.. Then you are making the problem worse for all those who do not like any spam or trolls on these sites.
The only way to deal with a troll if your goal is to stop it, is by not answering. This problem is not unique to just these few groups, but to many non-moderated groups. I would guess in all the usenet groups there are millions and millions of troll postings and those post trolling the trolls
After all these years and tens of thousand, if not hundreds of thousands, of Chung's posts, and probably as many counter-Chung posts, many saying all the basic same things, do you really believe that Chung is going to suddenly change because of what you post. Even this is manna from heaven for Chung.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 20:41 GMT > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > non-moderated groups. I would guess in all the usenet groups there are > millions and millions of troll postings and those post trolling the trolls Actually, trolls are mythological creatures that by definition do not exist.
> After all these years and tens of thousand, if not hundreds of thousands, of > Chung's posts, and probably as many counter-Chung posts, many saying all the > basic same things, do you really believe that Chung is going to suddenly > change because of what you post. This post is not "saying" anything. Usenet remains a text-based non- verbal form of communication.
> Even this is manna from heaven for Chung. Incorrect again.
Bottom line:
This simply shows that you continue to be guided by the spirit of error (self) so that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May we, who are Christians, continue to pray for your perishing soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convict/PrayForPhobos
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J666 - 25 Apr 2008 21:00 GMT >> Even this is manna from heaven for Chung. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Convicts Fear not Phobos, you are correct.
This response of mine will most likely get a response, though probably only a response with one, or if I am lucky, two http://heart..... web sites, rather than personal commentary that you got from Chung. You should feel honored that The Chung, himself, took time to personally respond to some of your comments.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 21:08 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Beatensatan
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J666 - 25 Apr 2008 22:36 GMT > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Beatensatan > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForPhobos Wow, I got a three-for response - not one http://heart...., not two, but three.
Next goal is FOUR.
yamantaka@aol.com - 25 Apr 2008 20:45 GMT > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:37:40 -0500, guardian Snow wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > basic same things, do you really believe that Chung is going to suddenly > change because of what you post. Even this is manna from heaven for Chung. Phobos, please feel free to killfile me if you don't want to read what I have to say. Unlike Chung, I don't nym shift. I keep the same name and email.
I am not at liberty to give too many details about how I came to be contacted by the Georgia Medical Board or to share the details of the communications. But I assure you that Chung is currently under active investigation by an agent and his case is soon to be presented to the Board.
Yes, most people realize he is a k00k, however he does troll some in with his MD, Phd credentials and his claims of being a "practicing cardiologist" and having "collective clinical experience."
As an actual, practicing, busy Board Certified internist I am concerned about the bad medical advice he gives to people. He is mentally ill and dishonest and I will do my part to point this out.
So, killfile me if you don't want to hear it. Otherwise, don't bother to finger wag at me.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 20:55 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Charlatansatan
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yamantaka@aol.com - 25 Apr 2008 21:30 GMT On Apr 25, 12:45 pm, yamant...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:37:40 -0500, guardian Snow wrote > > (in message [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Plus, I don't care if Chung posts nonsense until his fingers fall off. I just want to be sure that he can't harm anyone with his crap and that the proper authorities investigate his whacked out claims and determine if he should still be a licensed physicain.
If he is a tax fraud, I will call him out on that too. He's the one who claims to have a tax exempt, public charity. He's the one who claims to have 2 million dollars to back his 2PD diet. Then lets see the tax report 990 for income and expenses. If this is a public charity then this is public info.
Phobos - 25 Apr 2008 22:32 GMT > If he is a tax fraud, I will call him out on that too. He's the one > who claims to have a tax exempt, public charity. He's the one who > claims to have 2 million dollars to back his 2PD diet. Then lets see > the tax report 990 for income and expenses. If this is a public > charity then this is public info. No doubt you have already reported him to the IRS - you have done that?
Is he obligated to give you that information?
The key question is if you really believe him - I would not want to report him to the IRS based solely on his claims here - but you have - haven't you as you never answered - do not become like Chung and not answer questions unless it is OK for you and Chung not to answer.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 22:38 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForPhobos
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yamantaka@aol.com - 25 Apr 2008 22:50 GMT > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:30:16 -0500, yamant...@aol.com wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > as you never answered - do not become like Chung and not answer questions > unless it is OK for you and Chung not to answer. Phobos, you are becoming a troll yourself.
Chung states that The Wellness Foundation, Inc is a public charitable foundation. It is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt non profit per the IRS determination letter that Chung posted.
http://thewellnessfoundation.com/
These organizations are subject to filing a yearly Form 990 declaring income and expenses and as public non profits these declarations are public information. I have simply asked to see the 990 for 2007 and the bond to back up his claim that Chung's gaurantee of 2 million dollars has funds behind it. Of course I don't believe that he has that kind of money. This is part of showing that he is dishonest and a liar.
As to whether I have filed a report of suspected fraud with the IRS, I will leave that up to Chung to answer. He knows what sort of investigations are already occuring or will soon occur.
He is reaping what he has sown. I am not just taunting him on the internet like some. I am taking action regarding his lies, bad medical advice, fraudulent claims and mental health issues.
Phobos - 25 Apr 2008 23:24 GMT > Phobos, you are becoming a troll yourself. In some ways, we both are.
> Chung states that The Wellness Foundation, Inc is a public charitable > foundation. It is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt non profit per the IRS > determination letter that Chung posted.
> snip I have simply asked to see the 990 for 2007 and
> the bond to back up his claim that Chung's gaurantee of 2 million > dollars has funds behind it. You need to ask the Foundation directly. They should be willing to send you information.
> Of course I don't believe that he has > that kind of money. This is part of showing that he is dishonest and a > liar. He has not responded to any of these and why do you think he will now?
> As to whether I have filed a report of suspected fraud with the IRS, I > will leave that up to Chung to answer. He knows what sort of > investigations are already occuring or will soon occur. A non-answer answer - just believe you as Chung wants us to believe him.
> He is reaping what he has sown. I am not just taunting him on the > internet like some. I am taking action regarding his lies, bad medical > advice, fraudulent claims and mental health issues. Perhaps you could tell us just what you have done, aside from saying the Georgia Board contacted you and not the other way around, rather than just a statement we are to believe.
yamantaka@aol.com - 25 Apr 2008 23:32 GMT > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:50:54 -0500, yamant...@aol.com wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Georgia Board contacted you and not the other way around, rather than just a > statement we are to believe. Phobos, feel free to killfile me if you doubt my words and statements. I will not respond to you any further. You have become a troll.
Phobos - 25 Apr 2008 23:41 GMT > Phobos, feel free to killfile me if you doubt my words and statements. > I will not respond to you any further. You have become a troll. Why not killfile Chung - oh wait, you are the Savior of these internet groups and need to protect the hordes of people who believe Chung and follow his medical advice and therefore need to spend the time reading and responding to his posts and of course, cannot give many details so as not to hurt your crusade.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Apr 2008 00:14 GMT > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > his posts and of course, cannot give many details so as not to hurt your > crusade. No, he is simply satan, who is the liar, who is the source of all lies as described in the Bible:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling you to draw him out to be quartered by the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ.
Laus Deo !
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yamantaka@aol.com - 26 Apr 2008 01:39 GMT On Apr 25, 4:14 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: <snip Chung Dung>
It's the law:
http://nonprofitissues.com/public/features/ready/1998feb1.html?PHPSESSID=lQCskUr 1MJJ46dVa4pfh
Tax Exempts Must Provide Applications, Returns Public has right to same-day access upon request at office; organizations may satisfy obligation by placing information on the Internet
Excerpt: Full disclosure of information is critical if charities are to maintain the public support necessary to continue their programs. There should be no hesitation to disclose the information required by law, including officers’ salaries. Failure to do so harms all charities.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Apr 2008 01:57 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Ignorantsatan
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yamantaka@aol.com - 26 Apr 2008 02:23 GMT On Apr 25, 5:57 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TaxFraudChung is forever
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/LiarChung Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Apr 2008 02:30 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Flailingsatan
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yamantaka@aol.com - 26 Apr 2008 02:40 GMT On Apr 25, 6:30 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/FlailingChung > > is forever > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/TaxFraudChung J666 - 26 Apr 2008 03:06 GMT > It's the law: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > law, including officers salaries. Failure to do so harms all > charities. From thw web site of the Foundation on how to contact them and this is how you should request information you want:
Email (preferred):
* Send your email to feedback@TheWellnessFoundation.com
Phone Numbers:
* Voice: 678-524-4308 (if no answer, please leave message) * Fax: 404-699-8695
Snail Mail:
The Wellness Foundation, Inc. At Paradise Concepts 4419 Floyd Road Mableton GA 30126 USA
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Apr 2008 04:18 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets
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J666 - 26 Apr 2008 05:07 GMT > http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Warns Only two web sites - last time I got three
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Apr 2008 09:51 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
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yamantaka@aol.com - 26 Apr 2008 23:03 GMT > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:39:48 -0500, yamant...@aol.com wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Mableton GA 30126 > USA Done, Although Chung as the Incorporator and an officer and advisor of this tax exempt public charity should have been able to provide the requested information.
Greetings to the officers and advisors of the Wellness Foundation, Inc,
Please tell me where on the Internet I can find posted the Form 990 for 2007 for 501(c)(3) FEIN# 56-2425284. I asked Dr. Chung via a Usenet group we both post to, but he called me Satan and refused to answer rationally or in a timely fashion as required by law.
As a public, nonprofit, tax exempt charitable organization by law this is public information:
http://nonprofitissues.com/public/features/ready/1998feb1.html?PHPSES...
Tax Exempts Must Provide Applications, Returns Public has right to same-day access upon request at office; organizations may satisfy obligation by placing information on the Internet
Excerpt: Full disclosure of information is critical if charities are to maintain the public support necessary to continue their programs. There should be no hesitation to disclose the information required by law, including officers’ salaries. Failure to do so harms all charities.
Thank you in advance for your prompt cooperation.
Sincerely,
Dr. Yamantaka
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Apr 2008 23:08 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesssatan
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yamantaka@aol.com - 26 Apr 2008 23:16 GMT On Apr 26, 3:08 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/ValuelessChung > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/GreatLiarChung Andrew, you will be in some serious legal trouble if you fail to comply with my legitimate request. I wonder how the other officers of the Wellness Foundation, Inc will respond. Funny what happens when the real world catches up to you. Jesus and your imaginary friends can't get you out of this one.
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J666 - 26 Apr 2008 23:25 GMT > Please tell me where on the Internet I can find posted the Form 990 > for 2007 for 501(c)(3) FEIN# 56-2425284. I think it can be posted on the Internet instead of them sending it to, but it does not have to be on the internet.
You really need to just request the information and have the mail it, send it by email or give you a web site.
Chung or the Foundation may just repond there is no web page and leave it up to you to just ask for the information that they need to give.
guardian Snow - 26 Apr 2008 10:46 GMT On Apr 26, 9:14 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > No, he is simply satan, who is the liar, who is the source of all lies > as described in the Bible:
> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling > you to draw him out to be quartered by the truth, Who is LORD Jesus > Christ. Very interesting that Phobos is your pal and you actually take the time to talk to this person as if they are human. Interesting is that again you accuse people of being SATAN.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
The accuser gets cast down... are you following in his way? I'd say so because clearly the scriptures teach not to judge!
Luk 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
You like to ignore scriptures Chung and only keep ones that suite your delusion.
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Snow
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Apr 2008 10:49 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan
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monkfish - 25 Apr 2008 23:20 GMT On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:30:16 -0700, yamantaka wrote:
> On Apr 25, 12:45 pm, yamant...@aol.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > report 990 for income and expenses. If this is a public charity then > this is public info. You might be the only one who actually read all his posts. In that case, you are the biggest victim of him. He succeeded in making you a self-righteous fool. Killfile him and get on with your life, please.
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Phobos - 25 Apr 2008 22:26 GMT > I am not at liberty to give too many details about how I came to be > contacted by the Georgia Medical Board or to share the details of the > communications. But I assure you that Chung is currently under active > investigation by an agent and his case is soon to be presented to the > Board. I guess we will just have to believe you. If the case is soon to be presented to the board, then we should hear soon. If what he posts on all these sites, is allowable, then he will have to justify it or convince the Board he was just having fun being a troll because who would believe such absurd things and his absurd troll-like answers.
The Board probably can order a psychiatric exam which may very well solve the problem.
> Yes, most people realize he is a k00k, however he does troll some in > with his MD, Phd credentials and his claims of being a "practicing > cardiologist" and having "collective clinical experience." > As an actual, practicing, busy Board Certified internist I am > concerned about the bad medical advice he gives to people. He is > mentally ill and dishonest and I will do my part to point this out. Any reasonable person, even one who would believe and take seriously advice in one of these groups, and not check it out with other sources, would have to realize that Chung is mentally disturbed and if they did not, then why should they believe you and not Chung
> So, killfile me if you don't want to hear it. Otherwise, don't bother > to finger wag at me. If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
yamantaka@aol.com - 25 Apr 2008 22:33 GMT > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:45:13 -0500, yamant...@aol.com wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
If you don't like the goods, don't shop in this store.
J666 - 25 Apr 2008 22:51 GMT > The Board probably can order a psychiatric exam which may very well solve > the > problem. The board can do that, and may very do that in view of the sheer number of posts over the years (even for a troll that would not be normal) and take away his license, but he will still have an MD and PhD after his name.
No doubt his certifications will expire, BUT board certification has no legal meaning but may only matter with most hospitals for privileges and some insurance companies for billing.
monkfish - 25 Apr 2008 23:34 GMT >> I am in fact, trolling the troll.. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > is going to suddenly change because of what you post. Even this is manna > from heaven for Chung. You are absolutely right. Just killfile the anti-trolls as well.
Unless you wanna become one of them, you should put your message above in the tagline and post some on-topic messages.
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Pastor Dave - 25 Apr 2008 21:53 GMT >Chung is also a troll... Has it ever occurred to you that instead of spending your time railing on him (not that I'm a "Chung fan"), that you should just kill file him?
The only people who have a forum to do what they do, are those whom you do not kill file. Kill file them and they go away in rather short order.
So whose fault is it that Chung is around and does what he does? Yours and all those who respond to him, or talk about him, since you keep it going.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 22:17 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForDave
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monkfish - 25 Apr 2008 23:24 GMT >> No, I'm a good person and reasonable. If Chung agreed not to spam, I'd >> be happy to delete the group. I don't want to harm Chung, I'm just [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > other wanna-bees like yamantaka, are really posting as trolls in your > persistent and mainly repetitive posts. They are victimizing themselves with self-righteousness.
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J666 - 25 Apr 2008 15:12 GMT > Well, what do you know? The IRS accepts anonymous tips about suspected > fraud: > > http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html Have you done that yourself.
Pastor Dave - 25 Apr 2008 15:55 GMT >On Apr 24, 9:53 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" ><heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >more you mince and jive and avoid giving a straight forward answer, >the worse you look. Here's an idea... How about we not try to turn usenet into the IRS and/or the court system?
I'm no "Chung fan", but if you have a complaint that you feel is worthy of legal issues, then notify the appropriate offices and be done with it! This garbage going on in usenet is just a waste of everyone's time and is a personal witch hunt, which you wouldn't appreciate if someone did to you! Nor would you appreciate someone implying crimes toward you, without absolute proof, so why don't you cut the crap and stop pretending that your interest is in justice, when it's really about personally attacking someone?!
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 16:09 GMT > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > and stop pretending that your interest is in justice, > when it's really about personally attacking someone?! As if anything that satan posts via one of his sockpuppets actually has either meaning or value:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesssatan
That you seem to believe otherwise simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May we, who are Christians, continue to pray for your perishing soul, dear Dave:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForDave
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guardian Snow - 25 Apr 2008 16:47 GMT > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:50:42 -0700 (PDT), yamant...@aol.com > spake thusly: [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > be as fragrant as a sweet-smelling flower." > -Jean Paul Richter But even to your credit Dave, you use to spam these groups like nothing and eventually you came to grips with the fact that nobody wants to read the same damn post everyday. Who else but a complete nutter goes around calling people "sock puppets"? and this guy is a Doctor????
I can't imagine why anybody wants to defend spamming. By the way, nice quote:)
Shalom,
Snow
If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared. Niccolo Machiavelli
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