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Daily Spirit-guided thought for 04/19/08.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 09:20 GMT
http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com/115971.html

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
guardian Snow - 19 Apr 2008 09:39 GMT
Change Chung’s titles, he hates it!

Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempt to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University.  He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
we all complain about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition.  Your calls for people to "go
hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you to stop this
immediately.  If you are currently employed, You staffing supervisors
will be notified of your online activity.  They will be notified via
ANAD the national association for anorexia nervosa associated eating
disorders bulimia nervosa pro-ana, guardian angels school.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung.  If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession.  It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.

Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.

Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon.  He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain.  It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chungs web site states:

after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).
--------------------------------------------
In other words,  Mr. Chung is spamming all these web sites to create
traffic at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into
paying a ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name.

So, don’t visit the site.  He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams.  They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.

Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.

> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.

This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.

Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified
Internist. I am.
"Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to
offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How
does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer
reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing
VAT.

If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support
your absurd claims, then STFU.
His license is already under investigation. Anyone wishing to add his/
her complaints about Chung's unprofessional behavior and absurd,
nonstandard medical advice can also contact the Board. It can be done
anonymously.

From the website of the Georgia Medical Board:

What is unprofessional conduct?

According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct includes
"any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal standards of
acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also include, but
not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs, treatment or
diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the patient as
determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical care."

In general, examples of unprofessional conduct include, but are not
limited to, physical abuse of a patient, inadequate record keeping,
not recognizing or acting upon common symptoms, prescribing drugs in
excessive amounts or without legitimate reason, personal impairment
(mental or physical) that hinders safely practicing within the scope
of one's license or certificate, performing duties beyond the scope of
one's license or certificate and dishonesty. The Investigations and
Discipline rules of the Georgia Medical Board, (Rule 360-3.02 and
360-3-.04), also provide additional examples of unprofessional conduct
for which a licensee may be disciplined.

http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/02/csbme/home/0,2458,26729866,00.html
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 09:42 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForSnow

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http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels
guardian Snow - 19 Apr 2008 09:50 GMT
Change Chung’s titles, he hates it!

Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempt to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University.  He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
we all complain about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition.  Your calls for people to "go
hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you to stop this
immediately.  If you are currently employed, You staffing supervisors
will be notified of your online activity.  They will be notified via
ANAD the national association for anorexia nervosa associated eating
disorders bulimia nervosa pro-ana, guardian angels school.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung.  If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession.  It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.

Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.

Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon.  He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain.  It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chungs web site states:

after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).

In other words,  Mr. Chung is spamming all these web sites to create
traffic at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into
paying a ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name.

So, don’t visit the site.  He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams.  They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.

Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.

> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.
This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.
Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified
Internist. I am.
"Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to
offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How
does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer
reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing
VAT.
If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support
your absurd claims, then STFU.
His license is already under investigation. Anyone wishing to add his/
her complaints about Chung's unprofessional behavior and absurd,
nonstandard medical advice can also contact the Board. It can be done
anonymously.

http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/02/csbme/home/0,2458,26729866,00.html

From the website of the Georgia Medical Board:

What is unprofessional conduct?

According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct includes
"any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal standards of
acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also include, but
not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs, treatment or
diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the patient as
determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical care."

In general, examples of unprofessional conduct include, but are not
limited to, physical abuse of a patient, inadequate record keeping,
not recognizing or acting upon common symptoms, prescribing drugs in
excessive amounts or without legitimate reason, personal impairment
(mental or physical) that hinders safely practicing within the scope
of one's license or certificate, performing duties beyond the scope of
one's license or certificate and dishonesty. The Investigations and
Discipline rules of the Georgia Medical Board, (Rule 360-3.02 and
360-3-.04), also provide additional examples of unprofessional conduct
for which a licensee may be disciplined.

http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/02/csbme/home/0,2458,26729866,00.html
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 09:53 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForSnow

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guarantee
J A - 19 Apr 2008 14:37 GMT
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc13@

Most supernaturalists claim they are patriotic, but the bible is basically
anti-democratic, and therefore anti-American in values.

It has no discussion or description of democracy, or people having any say
in, or taking part in, how their government treats them or what it does.

There's no due process of law, or description of human rights. It's all
about slaves obeying their masters, genocide of innocent people outside the
"tribe", fathers selling daughters into (sexual) slavery, women being
treated as chattel, laws and orders being handed down by supernatural beings
and kings and "judges" that people had no say in.

The Bible is essentially anti-American. If someone wants to live under
superstition and dictates, let him emigrate the Middle East.
J666 - 19 Apr 2008 15:58 GMT
> The Bible is essentially anti-American

Not the Chible written with a feather of the Celestial Chicken as a quill so
we know it is the Word of the Celestial Chicken.

When the Celestial Chicken said "let my people go" he meant for them to be
free to make their own decisions and have their own thoughts and be
democratic.

The Celestial Chicken is so confident in the wisdom of His Words that He
knows people will follow on their own rather than being frightened to get
them to follow.

Since the Celestial Chicken created man in His image, He has confidence in
HIs creations to have their own thoughts
J A - 19 Apr 2008 16:23 GMT
>> The Bible is essentially anti-American
>
> Not the Chible written with a feather of the Celestial Chicken as a quill
> so
> we know it is the Word of the Celestial Chicken.

The Aztecs or Incas or whatever had a lot feathers all over their gods.

One of the reasons they got knocked over by  the Spanish conquistadors so
easily, was that their myths had some stuff about gods showing up on earth,
about the time the Spanish showed up....

Worked out great for them, didn't it?

I wish some jew would shoot that senile little nazi a.shole while he's
riding
around in his golf cart.
Phobos - 19 Apr 2008 16:49 GMT
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:23:13 -0500, J A wrote

> I wish some jew would shoot that senile little nazi a.shole while he's
> riding
> around in his golf cart.

With no due respect J A, it is exactly your type of comment that leads to so
much death and destruction in the world - you are no better than those who
you criticize.
J A - 19 Apr 2008 17:04 GMT
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:23:13 -0500, J A wrote
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> much death and destruction in the world - you are no better than those who
> you criticize.

No douchebag, what the pope represents has caused far more death and
destruction than I ever could, or would.
Phobos - 19 Apr 2008 17:48 GMT
> No douchebag, what the pope represents has caused far more death and
> destruction than I ever could, or would.

Your using of a pejorative term, really tells a lot more about you.  

I would think a strong opinion would not have to resort to that and could
stand on its own - but you decided to have to use a pejorative.  

I will let my comment stand on its own as I have no need or desire to get to
your level.
J A - 19 Apr 2008 18:03 GMT
>> No douchebag, what the pope represents has caused far more death and
>> destruction than I ever could, or would.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> to
> your level.

Again, what the pope represents has caused far more death and
destruction than I ever could, or would.

For a start on understanding that, read a book titled: "Hitler's Willing
Executioners".
Phobos - 19 Apr 2008 18:08 GMT
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote

> Again, what the pope represents has caused far more death and
> destruction than I ever could, or would.

Yes of course, so it is a difference in quantity, not quality
J A - 19 Apr 2008 18:51 GMT
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
>
>> Again, what the pope represents has caused far more death and
>> destruction than I ever could, or would.
>
> Yes of course, so it is a difference in quantity, not quality

Only in your mind - I've never committed genocide, burned anyone alive, or
molested children.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 21:31 GMT
>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Only in your mind - I've never committed genocide, burned anyone alive,
> or molested children.

But it sure looks like
you would have if you could have.

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J A - 19 Apr 2008 22:01 GMT
>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> But it sure looks like
> you would have if you could have.

Said like the piece of perverted scum that you are.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 22:05 GMT
>>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Said like the piece of perverted scum that you are.

Are you trying to say
you would not have even if you could have?
Good for you!

Can you stop calling people names?

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J A - 19 Apr 2008 22:13 GMT
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Are you trying to say
> you would not have even if you could have?

That I would not do such things, is obvious, I weas speaking to historical
facts enacted by a sick institution.

That you are scum and liable to do such things is evident from your
projections.

Projection is a concept you're familiar with, aren't you.

> Good for you!
>
> Can you stop calling people names?
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 22:20 GMT
>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Projection is a concept you're familiar with, aren't you.

Self-righteousness is a dangerous thing;
especially if you have a volatile temper.

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J A - 19 Apr 2008 22:36 GMT
>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Self-righteousness is a dangerous thing;
> especially if you have a volatile temper.

Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality, pedophilia, other
perversions, problems with the law, don't they?
J666 - 19 Apr 2008 22:50 GMT
> Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality, pedophilia, other
> perversions, problems with the law, don't they?

Is that for all types of monks -  human, animal, fish?
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 23:42 GMT
>> Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality, pedophilia, other
>> perversions, problems with the law, don't they?
>
> Is that for all types of monks -  human, animal, fish?

Your kind.

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monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 23:49 GMT
> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality, pedophilia, other
> perversions, problems with the law, don't they?

Any more than your atheist teachers?

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J A - 20 Apr 2008 00:02 GMT
>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Any more than your atheist teachers?

There are no "atheist teachers".
There are no atheist organizations that take in and victimize children.

Isn't it true that you're quite aware of Catholic monks having a long
history of homosexuality, pedophilia, other perversions, and problems with
the law?

We're all aware of lawsuits and settlements and criminal prosecutions
involving Priests.

The monks are reputed as much more degenerate.

Then there are the monks who got tossed out.....

Wouldn't that include someone posting on usenet, even though it's "the worst
place he's been"?
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 00:06 GMT
>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Wouldn't that include someone posting on usenet, even though it's "the
> worst place he's been"?

I'm here to help you.

Have you ever tortured anyone?

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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 00:07 GMT
> The monks are reputed as much more degenerate.

Yes -the smell test in that they smell like rotten gutted fish shows that.
Hades Fox is waiting for monks of all sorts
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 00:23 GMT
> Wouldn't that include someone posting on usenet, even though it's "the worst
> place he's been"?

The worst place is a fish market full of rotting gutted fisn.
J666 - 19 Apr 2008 23:58 GMT
> Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality, pedophilia, other
> perversions, problems with the law, don't they?

Nothing fishy about that.  Passes the smell test as does not smell like
rotten gutted fish.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 00:03 GMT
>> Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality, pedophilia, other
>> perversions, problems with the law, don't they?
>
> Nothing fishy about that.  Passes the smell test as does not smell like
> rotten gutted fish.

Pitiful.

You are about to be plonked
for the lack of any redeeming value.

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J666 - 19 Apr 2008 22:48 GMT
> Projection is a concept you're familiar with, aren't you.

Some projection involves handiwork if alone.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 22:51 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets

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http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthStabssatan
J666 - 19 Apr 2008 22:57 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/SelfProjection
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Handiwork

Had Chung gone over the edge?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 23:02 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Squirmingsatan

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http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatssatan
J A - 19 Apr 2008 23:06 GMT
>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/SelfProjection
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Had Chung gone over the edge?

LOL

Nicely done!  Chunkers went berserk when you revealed his secret "handiwork"
habits....

Well, what the hell, the wife has run off, they won't let him into the
church to meet girls... what the hell...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 23:08 GMT
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J666 - 19 Apr 2008 23:13 GMT
In the Barnyard of Eden, there was Adam Rooster and Eve Hen, who was created
from Adam's wishbone, and the Hades Fox sent a serpent to tempt them with the

most Delicious Apple, but being chickens and being too smart for the Hades
Fox and his serpent, they refused and stayed in the Barnyard of Eden and
lived happily, healthy and blessed for their life and the life of all
chickens to come.

The above is from the Chible, Origins 16:16

That is why chicken is wonderful and everyone who is smart, follows the
Celestial Chicken, the Chickie andn the Fried Egg.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 23:17 GMT
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http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatssatan
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 00:14 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatssatan

Soon you will realize the truth and be hatched again

http://CelestialChicken.org/HatchedAgain
Father Haskell - 20 Apr 2008 02:55 GMT
> In the Barnyard of Eden, there was Adam Rooster and Eve Hen, who was created
> from Adam's wishbone, and the Hades Fox sent a serpent to tempt them with the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> That is why chicken is wonderful and everyone who is smart, follows the
> Celestial Chicken, the Chickie andn the Fried Egg.

They're smart because eggs contribute choline,
which brains need to function right.
J A - 19 Apr 2008 23:19 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/_have_fun_baiting_the_chung_demon
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 23:19 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthStabssatan
J A - 19 Apr 2008 23:38 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthStabssatan

That hurts Andi, it really hurts...   ;-))
J666 - 19 Apr 2008 23:56 GMT
> That hurts Andi, it really hurts...   ;-))

Yes there is pain with God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit but not in the
Celestial Chicken, the Chickie and the Fried Egg.

http://CelestialChicken.org/No_Pain

Chung has been reading the Chible and may be re-hatched again.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 23:52 GMT
>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/SelfProjection
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Well, what the hell, the wife has run off, they won't let him into the
> church to meet girls... what the hell...

Are you still talking about yourself?

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J A - 20 Apr 2008 00:10 GMT
>>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/SelfProjection
>>>>
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>
> Are you still talking about yourself?

Are you shrinking?

I think so.
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 00:24 GMT
> Are you shrinking?
>
> I think so.

Do you mean like old dried up rotten gutted fish?
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 00:51 GMT
>>>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/SelfProjection
>>>>>
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>
> I think so.

That must be your self-righteousness.

There are many good things in life we can enjoy.
I'm known to turn a cesspool into a green pasture.

If you can just let got of the past,
you will feel grateful for everything.

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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 00:02 GMT
> Well, what the hell, the wife has run off, they won't let him into the
> church to meet girls... what the hell...

Thank Celestial Chicken for that.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 23:46 GMT
>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/SelfProjection
>>
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>
> Had Chung gone over the edge?

Is that what you want?

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monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 23:42 GMT
>> Projection is a concept you're familiar with, aren't you.
>
> Some projection involves handiwork if alone.

Speaking for yourself?

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J A - 19 Apr 2008 22:07 GMT
>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
>>>
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> But it sure looks like
> you would have if you could have.

That is something coming right out of your background, isn't it?

What you're seeing in monkscum is somebody who has likely spent
considerable time
in various types of institutions, playing back to the world what he
considers to be the indignities of his evaluations and treatments.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 22:10 GMT
>>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
>>>>
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> in various types of institutions, playing back to the world what he
> considers to be the indignities of his evaluations and treatments.

Incorrect.

This is one of the worst places I have ever been.
I serve here voluntarily to help clueless people.

How about you?

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J A - 19 Apr 2008 22:19 GMT
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
>>>>>
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> This is one of the worst places I have ever been.
> I serve here voluntarily to help clueless people.

A usenet group is one of the "worst place you've ever been?

Not convincing.

You're nature comes through in what you post, and it indicates a perverted
personality of the type found in institutions.

> How about you?
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 22:22 GMT
>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
>>>>>>
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> You're nature comes through in what you post, and it indicates a
> perverted personality of the type found in institutions.

You sound like you wanna confess something.
I'll be here for a while.
Take your time.

Have you ever tortured anyone?

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J A - 19 Apr 2008 22:36 GMT
>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:58:40 -0500, J A wrote
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>
> You sound like you wanna confess something.

More of your projection.

Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality, pedophilia, other
perversions, problems with the law, don't they?

> I'll be here for a while.
> Take your time.

> Have you ever tortured anyone?
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 23:50 GMT
> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality, pedophilia, other
> perversions, problems with the law, don't they?

Any more than your army buddies?

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J A - 20 Apr 2008 00:10 GMT
>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>
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>
> Any more than your army buddies?

Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.

That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
institutionalized.

The comment stands: Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality,
pedophilia, other
perversions, problems with the law, and we all know it.
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 00:26 GMT
> Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.

A monkfish is a bottom dweller with a big mouth so it is not unexpected that
his basic character and personality are that.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 00:55 GMT
>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>
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> pedophilia, other
> perversions, problems with the law, and we all know it.

Ever heard of pimps and gangs?
Most of them are atheists, I suspect.
Are you one of them?

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J A - 20 Apr 2008 01:37 GMT
>>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>>
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>> pedophilia, other
>> perversions, problems with the law, and we all know it.

> Ever heard of pimps and gangs?
> Most of them are atheists, I suspect.

Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.
That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
institutionalized.

The comment stands: Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality,
pedophilia, other perversions, problems with the law, and we all know it.

Why the Catholic Church Recruits Pedophiles to Be Priests
by TK Kenyon   January 23, 2007 08:16 PM EST
It's been five years since the story about the Catholic Church sheltering
pedophile priests came to light. In that five years, there's been a lot of
talk about reforms (like the Dallas Charter), a few priests were laicized, a
lot of money was paid out, but very little has been done to change the basic
problems that contributed to preferentially recruiting pedophile priests in
the first place.

Unfortunately, the job description for a Catholic priest reads like an ad
for pedophiles: must be an unmarried young adult male, not interested in
relationships with adult women yet not acknowledge homosexual tendencies,
love working with children especially in unsupervised situations like youth
groups or altar servers, and believe one has a special relationship with God
such that one should be placed in a position of authority due to it.

When I was researching my novel, Rabid, (due out in April, 2007,) I was
shocked at how the rules of the Church not only protected accused priests
but increased the likelihood of the sexual abuse of children. With the
recent election of Pope Benedict XIV (previously Cardinal Ratzinger),
intervention with pedophile priests has been more vigorous, probably because
the now-Pope previously headed up the Congregation for the Doctrine of the
Faith, the functionary within the Vatican that dealt with the problem of
predatory priests. It seems as if the previous pope, Pope John Paul II, may
have directed then-Cardinal Ratzinger to quash the problem, but now that
Ratzinger has ascended the throne of Peter, he has the power to change
things.
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 01:41 GMT
> Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.
> That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
>  institutionalized.

Wonder if the MFer had exposure to priests when a child.
J A - 20 Apr 2008 01:49 GMT
>> Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.
>> That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
>>  institutionalized.
>
> Wonder if the MFer had exposure to priests when a child.

Pedophile offenders were often molested as youths.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 03:39 GMT
>>> Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.
>>> That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
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>
> Pedophile offenders were often molested as youths.

Atheistic communist murderers were
often extremely poor when they were young.

How about you?

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J A - 20 Apr 2008 14:44 GMT
>>>> Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.
>>>> That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
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> Atheistic communist murderers were
> often extremely poor when they were young.

It's a sign of just how stupid you are, that you're trying to justify a
bizarre 2000 year old cult that has done vast harm to mankind, by comparing
it to a failed political ideology that lasted about 70 years.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 23:17 GMT
>>>>> Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of
>>>>> perversion. That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a
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> bizarre 2000 year old cult that has done vast harm to mankind, by
> comparing it to a failed political ideology that lasted about 70 years.

Atheistic capitalist pigs were
often extremely poor when they were young.
Are you one of them?

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J A - 21 Apr 2008 01:16 GMT
Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.

That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
institutionalized.

The comment stands: Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality,
pedophilia, other perversions, problems with the law, and we all know it.
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 02:25 GMT
> Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.
>
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> pedophilia, other perversions, problems with the law, and we all know
> it.

"If any one of you is without sin,
let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
John 8:7 (New International Version)

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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 04:39 GMT
>>> Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.
>>> That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
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>
> Pedophile offenders were often molested as youths.

Hopefully there will not be a third generation in this case
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 09:58 GMT
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monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 03:35 GMT
>>>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>
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> the problem, but now that Ratzinger has ascended the throne of Peter, he
> has the power to change things.

Catholics have some structural issues.
But they would come clean eventually.
They are not like atheistic communists, you know.

How are they doing at the air force academy?
No more raping of fellow students?
The military have their own institutional issues.
But they would come clean eventually,
after there were no wars for decades.

How about you?
Would you like to come clean?

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 03:48 GMT
> Would you like to come clean?

"With man this is impossible, but with GOD all things are possible."
-- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

Amen.

However, it is written that GOD is simply not willing to forgive those
who have unwisely chosen to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, so that
satan will be forever:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan

Thus, it remains wiser to simply rebuke him and move on:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

Your continued written discourse with satan shows that the Holy Spirit
is absolutely right to convict you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May we, who are Christians, continue to pray for your perishing soul,
dear Monkfish:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForMonkfish

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

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guardian Snow - 20 Apr 2008 03:52 GMT
> > Would you like to come clean?
>
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> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

Change Chung’s titles, he hates it!
CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA
5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B |
MABLETON, GA  30126
(404) 699-2780

Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempting to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University.  He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
we all complain about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition.  Your calls (Mr. Chung) for
people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you
to stop this immediately.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung.  If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession.  It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.

Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.

Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon.  He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain.  It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chung’s web site states:

“after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value.  However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content.  If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).”

In other words,  Mr. Chung is spamming us on usenet to create traffic
at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a
ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name. There is very little
content on the site and nothing of any medical value.

So, don’t visit the site.  He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams.  They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.

Further proof was shown by Perverter of Truth who said:
Further to Chung's website.
Google won't like his code and probably will downgrade his site's
rating.
He did things that are well-known as SEO-negative, in particular
keyword stuffing with invisible text. Looks like this:
<Font Size=-2 Color="#FFFFFF">
Emory Cardiology Atlanta Cardiology Emory Cardiology Atlanta
Cardiology
Emory Cardiology
Emory Cardiology Atlanta Cardiology Emory Cardiology Atlanta
Cardiology
Emory Cardiology
(for a good 30 lines).

Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.

> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.

This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.

Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified
Internist. I am.

"Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to
offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How
does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer
reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing
VAT.
If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support
your absurd claims, then stop.
His license is already under investigation. Anyone wishing to add his/
her complaints about Chung's unprofessional behavior and absurd,
nonstandard medical advice can also contact the Board. It can be done
anonymously.
http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/02/csbme/home/0,2458,26729866,00.html

From the website of the Georgia Medical Board:

What is unprofessional conduct?

According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct includes
"any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal standards of
acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also include, but
not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs, treatment or
diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the patient as
determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical care."

In general, examples of unprofessional conduct include, but are not
limited to, physical abuse of a patient, inadequate record keeping,
not recognizing or acting upon common symptoms, prescribing drugs in
excessive amounts or without legitimate reason, personal impairment
(mental or physical) that hinders safely practicing within the scope
of one's license or certificate, performing duties beyond the scope of
one's license or certificate and dishonesty. The Investigations and
Discipline rules of the Georgia Medical Board, (Rule 360-3.02 and
360-3-.04), also provide additional examples of unprofessional conduct
for which a licensee may be disciplined.

File a Complaint
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J A - 20 Apr 2008 15:13 GMT
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> However, it is written that GOD is simply not willing to forgive those
> who have unwisely chosen to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, so that
> satan will be forever:

You "blaspheme" against any gods that exist everyday, by pretending to speak
for them and comdemning other people in their names.

As for being a "healer", you sit safe in the US doing nothing with your
medical training, while you could be helping people in places like Darfur.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 18:55 GMT
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> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthStabssatan

Yes, so now when someone points out the obvious truth to you, it must be
"satan".

You "blaspheme" against any gods that exist everyday, by pretending to speak
for them and condemning other people in their names.

As for being a "healer", you sit safe in the US doing nothing with your
medical training, while you could be helping people in places like Darfur.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 21:23 GMT
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J A - 20 Apr 2008 22:05 GMT
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monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 23:44 GMT
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc20@emorycardiology.com> wrote in
> message news:6708d54b-
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> medical training, while you could be helping people in places like
> Darfur.

What do you do for others
other than calling them names?

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J A - 21 Apr 2008 01:16 GMT
Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.

That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
institutionalized.

The comment stands: Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality,
pedophilia, other perversions, problems with the law, and we all know it.
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 02:26 GMT
> Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> pedophilia, other perversions, problems with the law, and we all know
> it.

Are you without sin?

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J A - 20 Apr 2008 14:44 GMT
>>>>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
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> Catholics have some structural issues.
> But they would come clean eventually.

You're a liar.

The catholic church covered up it's pedophilia for centuries.

It never "came forward".

It was sued in US courts many times  and degenerate priests were convicted
in criminal trials.

That's how the story came out.

It's obvious that sex perversion in the church isn't limited to the US, but
there's no sign that anything is being done in other countries.

You're pathetic.   The comment stands: Catholic monks have a long history of
homosexuality,
pedophilia, other perversions, problems with the law, and we all know it.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 23:21 GMT
>>>>>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 78 lines]
> pedophilia, other perversions, problems with the law, and we all know
> it.

I said, they would come clean eventually.
Most groups of professional men would have
their share of problems, sins, and even crimes.

Are you against homosexuality?

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J A - 21 Apr 2008 01:16 GMT
Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.

That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
institutionalized.

The comment stands: Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality,
pedophilia, other perversions, problems with the law, and we all know it.
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 02:30 GMT
> Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> pedophilia, other perversions, problems with the law, and we all know
> it.

Luke 6:37 (New International Version)
Judging Others
"Do not judge, and you will not be judged.
Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned.
Forgive, and you will be forgiven."

Unless you are a victim.
Are you?

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J A - 21 Apr 2008 02:45 GMT
Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.

That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
institutionalized.

The comment stands: Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality,
pedophilia, other perversions, problems with the law, and we all know it.

Why the Catholic Church Recruits Pedophiles to Be Priests

by TK Kenyon
January 23, 2007 08:16 PM EST
It's been five years since the story about the Catholic Church sheltering
pedophile priests came to light. In that five years, there's been a lot of
talk about reforms (like the Dallas Charter), a few priests were laicized, a
lot of money was paid out, but very little has been done to change the basic
problems that contributed to preferentially recruiting pedophile priests in
the first place.

Unfortunately, the job description for a Catholic priest reads like an ad
for pedophiles: must be an unmarried young adult male, not interested in
relationships with adult women yet not acknowledge homosexual tendencies,
love working with children especially in unsupervised situations like youth
groups or altar servers, and believe one has a special relationship with God
such that one should be placed in a position of authority due to it.

When I was researching my novel, Rabid, (due out in April, 2007,) I was
shocked at how the rules of the Church not only protected accused priests
but increased the likelihood of the sexual abuse of children. With the
recent election of Pope Benedict XIV (previously Cardinal Ratzinger),
intervention with pedophile priests has been more vigorous, probably because
the now-Pope previously headed up the Congregation for the Doctrine of the
Faith, the functionary within the Vatican that dealt with the problem of
predatory priests. It seems as if the previous pope, Pope John Paul II, may
have directed then-Cardinal Ratzinger to quash the problem, but now that
Ratzinger has ascended the throne of Peter, he has the power to change
things.

For example, when Pope John Paul II was ill and no longer taking an active
role in the leadership of the Church, then-Cardinal Ratzinger reopened the
case of Marciel Maciel, founder of an order of priests in Mexico, the Legion
of Christ, in December, 2004, a few months before the death of Pope John
Paul II. Maciel had been accused of molestation by nine former seminarians.
A month later, Maciel declined being reelected to be the general of the
legion, a move that has been attributed to the renewed investigation. In
May, 2006, Pope Benedict XVI ordered Maciel to retire from his position and
spend the rest of his life in "prayer and repentance."

Though this may seem mild, Pope John Paul II didn't do anything at all, and
a Vatican statement did say that Maciel has only escaped an ecclesiastical
trial due to his advanced age and rapidly failing health.

So Pope Benedict XVI has a mixed record, but his words are less equivocal.
He is known for making blunt statements, even considering the subtleties of
Church speeches. Remembering that he probably has Vatican lawyers breathing
down the collar of that ostentatious white surplice every time he speaks,
the Pope said at Good Friday Mass in 2005, "How much filth there is in the
church, even among those who, in the priesthood, should belong entirely to
Him." The filth in question is generally thought to refer to priests
involved in sex crimes.

However, the primary problem remains that the Catholic Church preferentially
recruits men with the demographics and behavioral traits of pedophiles.
Until that changes, no admonishment from the Pope will stop the sexual abuse
of children.
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 02:51 GMT
> Why the Catholic Church Recruits Pedophiles to Be Priests
> by TK Kenyon

Do you want me to start posting articles
about atrocities committed by atheistic communists?

Get a hold of yourself
and tell us what it would mean for you
to believe in God?

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J A - 21 Apr 2008 02:57 GMT
>> Why the Catholic Church Recruits Pedophiles to Be Priests
>> by TK Kenyon
>
> Do you want me to start posting articles
> about atrocities committed by atheistic communists?

Monkscum tries to drag honorable people into his swamp of perversion.

That's another common trait of a degenerate, and a person who has been
institutionalized.

The comment stands: Catholic monks have a long history of homosexuality,
pedophilia, other perversions, problems with the law, and we all know it.

Why the Catholic Church Recruits Pedophiles to Be Priests

by TK Kenyon
January 23, 2007 08:16 PM EST
It's been five years since the story about the Catholic Church sheltering
pedophile priests came to light. In that five years, there's been a lot of
talk about reforms (like the Dallas Charter), a few priests were laicized, a
lot of money was paid out, but very little has been done to change the basic
problems that contributed to preferentially recruiting pedophile priests in
the first place.

Unfortunately, the job description for a Catholic priest reads like an ad
for pedophiles: must be an unmarried young adult male, not interested in
relationships with adult women yet not acknowledge homosexual tendencies,
love working with children especially in unsupervised situations like youth
groups or altar servers, and believe one has a special relationship with God
such that one should be placed in a position of authority due to it.

When I was researching my novel, Rabid, (due out in April, 2007,) I was
shocked at how the rules of the Church not only protected accused priests
but increased the likelihood of the sexual abuse of children. With the
recent election of Pope Benedict XIV (previously Cardinal Ratzinger),
intervention with pedophile priests has been more vigorous, probably because
the now-Pope previously headed up the Congregation for the Doctrine of the
Faith, the functionary within the Vatican that dealt with the problem of
predatory priests. It seems as if the previous pope, Pope John Paul II, may
have directed then-Cardinal Ratzinger to quash the problem, but now that
Ratzinger has ascended the throne of Peter, he has the power to change
things.

For example, when Pope John Paul II was ill and no longer taking an active
role in the leadership of the Church, then-Cardinal Ratzinger reopened the
case of Marciel Maciel, founder of an order of priests in Mexico, the Legion
of Christ, in December, 2004, a few months before the death of Pope John
Paul II. Maciel had been accused of molestation by nine former seminarians.
A month later, Maciel declined