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Collapsed lung years after bypass

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Jane - 19 Apr 2008 01:27 GMT
This is a new one on me (not surprisingly).  I wondered if anyone out
there has had this experience.

My husband had quadruple bypass in 2004.  After the surgery there were
lots of problems with pleural effusion.  It kept him in the hospital
an extra week and was the reason he had to go back in a week after
coming home.  About two months later a chest x-ray was OK.  That was
the last chest x-ray until recently.

Last November our PCP heard fluid around the left lung.  An x-ray
indicated fluid and a partially collapsed lung.  After medication to
rule out pneumonia, three x-rays, two CT scans, a thorcentesis, and
two appointments with a pulmonologist, today we were told by the
thorasic surgeon that the lung collapse is from the bypass and the
fluid is just the body's reaction to the empty space left by the
collapsed lung.

We were sent to the surgeon by the lung guy for a second opinion and
to see if he thought a bronchoscopy was necessary.  We were surprised
and pleased when he said that nothing he saw indicated a blockage of
any kind.  He explained that after the bypass there can be a small
amount of blood in the pleural space.  This can eventually cause the
lung to collapse and if it remains collapsed for a long period of time
a sort of thin shell forms preventing it from expanding, even when the
fluid is removed.  There's a good chance here that I don't have
everything he said straight.  What I do recall is the part about the
lung remaining collapsed because of an outer shell forming.  He said
that they can perform surgery to remove it, but it is tricky (said it
was like scraping paint off of a balloon).  He said that unless the
symptoms are very annoying, most people don't elect to have the
surgery.  As it happens my husband had no symptoms at all.  He does
plan to do a bronchoscopy to "cover all the bases" but he was sure it
wouldn't show anything.

I should mention that this guy is considered to be one of the best
thorasic surgeons at Mass General Hospital.

Has anyone else heard of this?  If so, does the conditon have a name?
I should have asked the doctor but I was trying so hard to pay
attention to the explanation he was giving us that I didn't think of
it.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 01:38 GMT
> This is a new one on me (not surprisingly).  I wondered if anyone out
> there has had this experience.
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Has anyone else heard of this?

Yes.

> If so, does the conditon have a name?

Trapped lung.

> I should have asked the doctor but I was trying so hard to pay
> attention to the explanation he was giving us that I didn't think of
> it.

May reading the following help you understand the problem better:

http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/full/131/1/206

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Jane - 19 Apr 2008 14:22 GMT
On Apr 18, 8:38 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

> > This is a new one on me (not surprisingly).  I wondered if anyone out
> > there has had this experience.
[quoted text clipped - 60 lines]
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

Thank you so much.  I guess this is consistent with the thorasentesis
results that indicated the fluid was transudate in nature.

I have to admit that the site that you suggested is a little too
medically technical for me, although it's nice to have a name to put
to the problem.

Would you know of someplace that I could find an explanation more for
the lay person?  I need to explain it to our sons and I don't want to
give them incorrect information.

thanks again

Jane
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 18:52 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
>
> Thank you so much.

Laus Deo :-)

http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo

>  I guess this is consistent with the thorasentesis
> results that indicated the fluid was transudate in nature.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Would you know of someplace that I could find an explanation more for
> the lay person?

Yes.

Here you go:

http://www.uptodate.com/patients/content/topic.do?topicKey=~YYkkR93LlC4pfY

>  I need to explain it to our sons and I don't want to
> give them incorrect information.

Understandably.

> thanks again

Again...

Laus Deo :-))

May other Christians join me in asking GOD to bless you and your
husband, in HIS mighty way, in Jesus' name.

Amen.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
SnowPheonix - 19 Apr 2008 20:08 GMT
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

Change Chung’s titles, he hates it!

Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempting to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University.  He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
we all complain about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition.  Your calls (Mr. Chung) for
people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you
to stop this immediately.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung.  If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession.  It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.

Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.

Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon.  He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain.  It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chung’s web site states:

“after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value.  However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content.  If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).”

In other words,  Mr. Chung is spamming us on usenet to create traffic
at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a
ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name. There is very little
content on the site and nothing of any medical value.

So, don’t visit the site.  He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams.  They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.

Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.

> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.
This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.
Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified
Internist. I am.
"Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to
offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How
does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer
reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing
VAT.
If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support
your absurd claims, then stop.
His license is already under investigation. Anyone wishing to add his/
her complaints about Chung's unprofessional behavior and absurd,
nonstandard medical advice can also contact the Board. It can be done
anonymously.
http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/02/csbme/home/0,2458,26729866,00.html

From the website of the Georgia Medical Board:

What is unprofessional conduct?

According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct includes
"any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal standards of
acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also include, but
not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs, treatment or
diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the patient as
determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical care."

In general, examples of unprofessional conduct include, but are not
limited to, physical abuse of a patient, inadequate record keeping,
not recognizing or acting upon common symptoms, prescribing drugs in
excessive amounts or without legitimate reason, personal impairment
(mental or physical) that hinders safely practicing within the scope
of one's license or certificate, performing duties beyond the scope of
one's license or certificate and dishonesty. The Investigations and
Discipline rules of the Georgia Medical Board, (Rule 360-3.02 and
360-3-.04), also provide additional examples of unprofessional conduct
for which a licensee may be disciplined.

File a Complaint
Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/00/article/0,2086,26729866_27513604_27080031,00.html

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 20:23 GMT
convicted neighbor Mark (Snow) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6063e1f6416e3b3d?
>
> Change Chung�s titles, he hates it!

Incorrect, Jane is the OP so that the subject line of this discussion
thread belongs to her.

Moreover, I enjoy changing the subject line per the guidance of the
Holy Spirit and do not hate such change.

> Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
> doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempting to
> sell for half a million dollars to Emory University.

Incorrect, the HeartMDPhD.com web site is not for sale.

Even if Emory were to offer 100 trillion dollars, would not sell.

Moreover, the EmoryCardiology.com was for sale but Emory was too slow
to act:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guarantee

> He is spamming
> us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
> we all complain about his tactics!

Incorrect, the HeartMDPhD.com web site has its traffic simply because
it is the on-line source of information concerning the 2PD-OMER
Approach along with being a cardiology web portal:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHealthy

> Anorexia is a serious medical condition.

Irrelevant.  Hunger is exactly the opposite of anorexia.

Clearly, you are being guided by the spirit of error (self).

This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

You really don't have much longer, dear Mark (Snow):

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy

May you wisely choose to repent soon by publicly declaring with your
mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Autymn D. C. - 20 Apr 2008 17:21 GMT
On Apr 19, 12:23 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Mark (Snow) wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Moreover, I enjoy changing the subject line per the guidance of the
> Holy Spirit and do not hate such change.

See the holy spirit here: http://teachersource.com/AirPressure/VorticesAndFog/ZeroLauncher.aspx.

> > Anorexia is a serious medical condition.
>
> Irrelevant.  Hunger is exactly the opposite of anorexia.
>
> Clearly, you are being guided by the spirit of error (self).

"the breath of error"?

> This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
> you:

Tanac use "holy wind".  Vivli use "holy wit".  pneuma is wit; whereas
pnoè is breath.  The Vulgate's mistranslation of "spiritus" is from
the latter, where they should instead use "vis".  Newton did aplenty.

> May you wisely choose to repent soon by publicly declaring with your
> mouth that "Jesus is LOR D:"
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>
> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

You can't even /say/ "Jesus", but "GIizas", which is not a name, nor a
word, nor a person.  And God can't tell you how wrong you are as God
is the same person as you, and is only as smart.  Whereas I'm much
smarter:

http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+fast-food+God
http://google.com/groups?q=evil-God+Prov+Autymn
http://google.com/groups?q=lonehandenly

The last link will be the extermination of your faketh.

-Aut

> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Jane - 20 Apr 2008 01:28 GMT
On Apr 19, 1:52 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 100 lines]
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

OK.  Now that I know what it's called, I'm still wondering how it
could have gone undetected for over three years after the CABG.  My
husband sees his PCP and cardiologist every six months.   Again, he
had major problems with pleural effusion after the surgery, but again
that was more than three years ago.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 03:04 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 79 lines]
> had major problems with pleural effusion after the surgery, but again
> that was more than three years ago.

It is possible that his trapped lung has only happened since his last
follow-up with his doctors.  .

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Jane - 20 Apr 2008 14:26 GMT
On Apr 19, 10:04 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 90 lines]
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

The doctor was very clear when he said this was a result of the
quadruple bypass in Sept. 2004.  When I questioned why his other
physicians hadn't noticed it sooner he said that if you weren't
looking for it, it was not hard to miss.  Does that sound right to you?
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 16:36 GMT
> The doctor was very clear when he said this was a result of the
> quadruple bypass in Sept. 2004.  When I questioned why his other
> physicians hadn't noticed it sooner he said that if you weren't
> looking for it, it was not hard to miss.  Does that sound right to you?

Hopefully you do realize about Chung if you are not a Chung sockpuppet.

"Me Tarzan, you Jane" Andrew B. Chung
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 20:03 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatssatan
yamantaka@aol.com - 20 Apr 2008 20:08 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatssatan

http://www.medicalboard.state.ga.us/bdsearch/index.cgi

So, Chung. Who's lying? You or the Georgia Medical Board?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 20:21 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Ignorantsatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatssatan
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 20:39 GMT
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> So, Chung. Who's lying?

You.

> You or the Georgia Medical Board?

Neither.

It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.

The Florida Medical Board is well aware of their physicians' failed
attempt to coerce me to falsify the medical records of my patients so
that they have not had the justification for disciplinary action.  The
Georgia Medical Board defers to the Florida Medical Board findings
that there are no grounds for disciplinary action.

This fulfills the Biblical revelation that the truth, Who is LORD
Jesus Christ, now has all power and authority in this world after HIS
resurrection.

You, on the other hand, remain the liar who is the source of all lies
as described in the Bible:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan

... therefore you are:

http://HeartMDPhD.com//Doomedsatan

... forevermore:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega

May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
yamantaka@aol.com - 20 Apr 2008 20:58 GMT
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Georgia Medical Board defers to the Florida Medical Board findings
> that there are no grounds for disciplinary action.

<Chung spew snipped>

I am not Satan. You lie when you say I am, Andrew.

You yourself have said in a past thread that you were fired for
writing "non occlusive coronary artery dies ease" instead of "no
coronary artery disease" on angiogram reports. That is not grounds to
fire someone. There is a lot more to the story that you conveniently
chose to omit. You are lying by ommision. Your Fla license was issued
6/4/2001 and expired 1/31/2002 when you didn't renew it because you
had already lost your job for cause.
https://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/irm00Profiling/ProfileACTIONS.asp?LicId=79280&ProfNB
R=1501

You didn't disclose the disciplinary action taken against you by the
Central Florida Heart Center.

Then, from the Georgia Medical Board Site:
http://www.medicalboard.state.ga.us/bdsearch/index.cgi

Section V (Physician self disclosed answers) clearly is worded:
List of privilege revocation or disciplinary actions taken against
this physician on or after April 11, 2001.

This physician has indicated that he/she has NOT had any hospital
privileges revoked involuntarily or by agreement, or restricted for
reason(s) related to competence or character.

Chung, you lied when you answered that you had not had any hospital
privileges revoked or restricted.

Lying on this application for medical re-licensing is grounds for
having your license revoked. You are not "writing truthfully." You are
lying.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 21:10 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hystericalsatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan
Autymn D. C. - 22 Apr 2008 19:58 GMT
> This fulfills the Biblical revelation that the truth, Who is LORD
> Jesus Christ, now has all power and authority in this world after HIS
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com//Doomedsatan

If you would read /my/ links, cretin, you would learn where in your
holy books the truthe was God and Krist were the liars, losers, and
sinners.  (It's possibil I'm on his killfile because of my first posts
at him some months back.)  In one of my writs, I even explain how to
stage/rear a [præter]natural resurrection.  By its Dec 2005 date, and
the dates under Google, I may be the starter of the "Zombie Jesus"
meme.

-Aut
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Apr 2008 20:09 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan
Jane - 22 Apr 2008 21:34 GMT
On Apr 22, 3:09 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan

I would appreciate it if you did not change my subject line.  There's
always a chance that someone else may have some information for me on
my original post.

Thank you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Apr 2008 22:07 GMT
> I would appreciate it if you did not change my subject line.  There's
> always a chance that someone else may have some information for me on
> my original post.

Have not:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3b74249b9e68c1c6?

> Thank you.

Laus Deo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 17:48 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 86 lines]
> The doctor was very clear when he said this was a result of the
> quadruple bypass in Sept. 2004.

It is possible that the trapped lung would have never happened had
your husband not ever had the surgery.

> When I questioned why his other
> physicians hadn't noticed it sooner he said that if you weren't
> looking for it, it was not hard to miss.  Does that sound right to you?

We, who are practicing physicians, do rely heavily on the presence of
symptoms to motivate us to look for something amiss.  When there has
been no symptoms as in your husband's case, few practicing physicians
would blame your doctors for missing the trapped lung.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
yamantaka@aol.com - 20 Apr 2008 18:42 GMT
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 98 lines]
> been no symptoms as in your husband's case, few practicing physicians
> would blame your doctors for missing the trapped lung.

Andrew Chung is not a practicing physician. He is a disgraced failure
who lost his first and only job, straight out of fellowship, after 3
months for being out-of-step with the other cardiologists in his
group. Instead of heeding this as a wake up call and getting some help
for his delusions and personality disorder, he became even more
entrenched in his own bizarre little delusional world and his lies.
This occurred in 2001. He is a mentally ill man who is fixated on
Christianity as part of his mental illness. He has no hospital
privileges or verifiable practice. His Georgia medical license is
under investigation.

Jane, before you take advice from a loser over the internet, check out
his track record. Next Chung will be telling you to eat only 2 pounds
of food, any food per day.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 18:48 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesssatan

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http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren
yamantaka@aol.com - 20 Apr 2008 19:00 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesssatan
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren

And another thing, Jane. Note how Chung calls anyone who doesn't agree
with him "Satan." Yet if one actually follows the link Andrew provides
and clicks on the link on the top that allows one to review the whole
thread, one can easily see that Chung is the one who is made to look
foolish on the thread.

Plus, he has lied on his Georgia Medical license. In the profile on
the website it says:

List of final disciplinary actions taken by licensing boards against
this physician on or after April 11, 2001.

This physician has indicated that he/she has NOT had any final public
disciplinary action or second subsequent final private reprimand taken
against him/her by a licensing board regulating his/her medical or any
other license in this state or any other state.

List of privilege revocation or disciplinary actions taken against
this physician on or after April 11, 2001.

This physician has indicated that he/she has NOT had any hospital
privileges revoked involuntarily or by agreement, or restricted for
reason(s) related to competence or character.

This is clearly a lie since he had his hospital and medical staff
privileges revoked by the Ocala Florida hospital and he also lost his
Florida medical license soon after he was booted from the staff at the
Florida Heart Center.

But of course, rather than address these true, verifiable (just go to
the Florida or Georgia Medical License website and look at info for
Dr. Andrew B. Chung), he will continue to have a hissy fit and call me
and others Satan or tell us we are convicted by the Holy Spirit. He
keeps a list of convicts on his website.

Jane, seek care from your own physicians. Get a second opinion if
necessary. But be very wary of anything that comes from the twisted
mind of Chung. He is no longer able to practice medicine up to minimum
standards due to reasons of dishonesty and mental illness.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 19:07 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet

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http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan
yamantaka@aol.com - 20 Apr 2008 19:14 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan

Hey Andrew, How about addressing what I've said above. You can't say
that I'm lying, because it is on the Georgia Medical Board website and
plain for all to see. So, are you claiming that it isn't true? That
makes you the liar, the "crazy" one and proves that you have been cut
by the Truth. Really Andrew, the more you carry on with links and your
delusion that you are some how rebuking Satan or refuting what has
been said, the more insane you make yourself appear.

You lied on your Georgia Medical License recertification application.
Man up. Own up to it. Let the Board know that you were untruthful and
let the consequences fall where they may.
Jane - 22 Apr 2008 13:52 GMT
> On Apr 20, 9:48 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>
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> his track record. Next Chung will be telling you to eat only 2 pounds
> of food, any food per day.

Well you may be correct but I looked him up on the AMA website and
he's there.  He seems to be fully credentialed.  In any case he
clearly has medical training, and while I don't subscribe to his
religious messages, he has been able to answer some of my basic
questions.

His AMA page:

http://webapps.ama-assn.org/doctorfinder/member.do?id=1208868413972&index=0&page=1

I don't take any information given to me via a Newsgroup as gospel (no
pun intended).  It's just another tool in my research.
J666 - 22 Apr 2008 14:38 GMT
> I don't subscribe to his
> religious messages, he has been able to answer some of my basic
> questions.

There is an old saying that even stopped clock is right twice a day.

Better to get medical advice from a "working clock" doctor.
Jane - 22 Apr 2008 14:15 GMT
Well you may be correct about Dr. Chung, but I looked him up on the
AMA website and he's there.  He seems to be fully credentialed.  In
any case he clearly has medical training, and while I don't think this
is the appropriate place for his religious messages, he has been able
to answer some of my basic medical questions.

I don't take any information given to me via a Newsgroup as gospel (no
pun intended).  It's just another tool in my research.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Apr 2008 22:03 GMT
> Well you may be correct about Dr. Chung, but I looked him up on the
> AMA website and he's there.

Therefore, you know that satan is not correct:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Erroneoussatan

> He seems to be fully credentialed.

To GOD be all the glory.

> In any case he clearly has medical training, and while I don't think this
> is the appropriate place for his religious messages, he has been able
> to answer some of my basic medical questions.

Actually, it remains my choice to not be religious.

Christianity is not a religion but rather a relationship with the
risen LORD Jesus Christ.

> I don't take any information given to me via a Newsgroup as gospel (no
> pun intended).  It's just another tool in my research.

May GOD bless you and your husband in HIS mighty way, in Jesus'
awesome name.

You will know when HE does when you are hungrier.

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
 
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