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Ping Dr Chung -- Certification Question
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Michael F. Poellot - 17 Apr 2008 21:03 GMT Dr. Chung:
I noticed that you aren't a Board Certified Internist anymore. What happened ? Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last year ? Please answer sincerly.
MP
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Apr 2008 22:46 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForPoellot
> Dr. Chung: > > I noticed that you aren't a Board Certified Internist anymore. What > happened ? Nothing.
> Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last > year ? No. The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the fellowship training in cardiology. The maintenance of certification in internal medicine is neither required nor needed for my calling as a cardiologist and sends the wrong message to the internists who refer their patients to me. Instead, referring internists are now more certain than ever that I will not be stealing their patients from them by wearing the hat of a competing internist.
> Please answer sincerly. It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully, instead.
It is my hope that you will understand that being truthful is infinitely better than being sincere, which would only be superficial.
May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
> MP yamantaka@aol.com - 17 Apr 2008 23:03 GMT On Apr 17, 2:46 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForPoellot > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > certain than ever that I will not be stealing their patients from them > by wearing the hat of a competing internist. Andrew, you repeatedly write about managing diabetics. That would be the task of an internist or an endocrinologist, not a cardiologist. That would be considered to be "wearing the hat of a competing internist." You give noncardiology-related advice about internal medicine conditions such as diabetes and cholesterol and diet and always say, "in our collective clinical experience." Please clarify then. Is it you who is having current clinical experience? You are no longer a Board Certified Internist.
How many patients do you see per week? Even if you are a noninvasive cardiologist and don't do angiograms, how can you manage cardiology patients if you don't have hospital admitting privileges. Who admits your patients for you? With whom do you currently practice? How many physicians are in your practice? What is there specialty?
Maintaining your Georgia Medical license requires that you are completing a certain amount of CME (Continuing Medical Education) credits from certain, verifiable and accepted sources. These sources tend to be from main stream, evidence-based medical sources. Places and programs where " a discerning heart" or "because it's what God wants" or idiosyncratic misinterpretations of Scripture would not be the correct answer. What CME programs do you attend in order to maintain your Georgia license?
You talk about "measuring" VAT. Please cite sources about how this is done. What are the units of measurement? How is it tested? How often is it tested? How do you know when it is gone for any particular patient? Please cite the peer reviewed sources for your info and your claims that if VAT is gone, blood sugar is controlled.
> It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully, instead. Then please be sure to answer my questions truthfully. I will know if you are lying, whether you lie by omission or commission.
J A - 17 Apr 2008 23:12 GMT A lot of good points.
In addition, how does the 2 pds. of McDonalds junk food, lard, candy, lettuce or whatever, go down with the internal med. and cardiology communities?
> On Apr 17, 2:46 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > I noticed that you aren't a Board Certified Internist anymore. What >> > happened ?
>> Nothing. >> [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > Then please be sure to answer my questions truthfully. I will know if > you are lying, whether you lie by omission or commission. Mike Mordant - 17 Apr 2008 23:29 GMT On Apr 17, 5:03 pm, yamant...@aol.com wrote:
> On Apr 17, 2:46 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > Then please be sure to answer my questions truthfully. I will know if > you are lying, whether you lie by omission or commission. If I may, I would like to add a couple of minor points to your questions for Dr. Chung.
1. His web site includes his CV http://www.heartmdphd.com/ac_cv1.asp It states when he passed his board certifications but does not address the current status of those credentials. That could be somewhat misleading - I wonder if he plans on clarifying that point.
2. His site also includes a press release about his conducting a VAT screening but does not go into how that is done. http://www.heartmdphd.com/press.asp Is that a common procedure? Does it have any clinical value? I would be very interested in how that is accomplished.
J666 - 17 Apr 2008 23:13 GMT > Instead, referring internists are now more > certain than ever that I will not be stealing their patients from them > by wearing the hat of a competing internist. The honoralbe specialist will make sure that they do not steal the patients, no matter what boards they have. Anyway, the referring doctor will soon realize that and stop referring any more patients and the problem will be solved and the specialist will get no more referrals.
Today, more and more insurance coverage, from private to medicaid to Medicare, require a referral for a patient to be seen by the specialist.
Not to stand up for Chung, but more and more doctors are considering not renewing their boards because of the expense - one big argument in remaing board certified is some hospitals and insurances require board certification. Of course, if you do not need to have hospital privileges or take those insurances, then no need - except, the handsriting is on the wall - board certification is going to be needed more and more for hospital privileges and insurances.
As it seems that Chung does not see patients in a hospital or even in an office,. the boards are not needed.
yamantaka@aol.com - 17 Apr 2008 23:24 GMT > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:46:33 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > certain than ever that I will not be stealing their patients from them > > by wearing the hat of a competing internist. What service do you offer these patients as a cardiologist, Andrew? I am an internist and when I refer to a cardiologist, it's for management of something such as angina not controlled on meds. I am asking my cardiologist colleague whether s/he thinks my patient needs an angiogram and possibly a percutaneous intervention, which is a procedure I do not do since I am not a cardiologist.
If my cardiology colleague thinks such a procedure is indicated, he will then do it himself, in the hospital. If you aren't able to do such a procedure due to no hospital privileges, then what do you offer the patients or internists who refer patients to you? Why would any competent internist consult you when they can do all the management that you could do as an office-based, non-interventional cardiologist without hospital privileges? So what sort of "cardiology hat" are you wearing?
> As it seems that Chung does not see patients in a hospital or even in an > office,. the boards are not needed. Michael F. Poellot - 17 Apr 2008 23:53 GMT >> Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last >> year ? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >certain than ever that I will not be stealing their patients from them >by wearing the hat of a competing internist. Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine. The cardiologist who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both internal and cardiovascular medicine. I expect, as a patient, _both_ credentials.
>> Please answer sincerly. > >It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully, instead. > >It is my hope that you will understand that being truthful is >infinitely better than being sincere, which would only be superficial. A sincere person is not superficial in my opinion.
MP
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2008 02:47 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForPoellot
> >> Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last > >> year ? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both > internal and cardiovascular medicine. That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal medicine.
> I expect, as a patient, _both_ credentials. That would be your choice to have that expectation. Meanwhile, I am called to serve my patients as their cardiologist and not as their primary physician. Not recertifying in internal medicine makes this focus clearer.
> >> Please answer sincerly. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > A sincere person is not superficial in my opinion. Without the truth, sincerity is just an exterior that is "without wax."
May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Machete - 18 Apr 2008 04:30 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > primary physician. Not recertifying in internal medicine makes this > focus clearer. Patients? Hmmm, are you drinking tonight Chung?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2008 11:06 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet
<><
http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren
yamantaka@aol.com - 18 Apr 2008 16:27 GMT On Apr 18, 3:06 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren Chung, that you are unable or unwilling to answer the reasonable questions I've asked you above regarding your claims of practice and the scope of your medical practice proves that you are dishonest. You lie by both omission and comission.
Machete - 18 Apr 2008 20:45 GMT On Apr 18, 3:06 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren Chung, that you are unable or unwilling to answer the reasonable questions I've asked you above regarding your claims of practice and the scope of your medical practice proves that you are dishonest. You lie by both omission and comission.
I've asked him the same damn questions four or five times and he's never even commented, the man is lost in a vast sea of mental illness and internet obsession. Playing God over this group is his favorite hobby, it's kind of like a board game for him.
Chung's favorite hobby as a kid was probably playing monopoly by himself.
Mike Mordant - 18 Apr 2008 21:30 GMT > <yamant...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----http://www.newsfeeds.comThe #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- He always has his imaginary playmate.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2008 22:44 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Deadsatan
<><
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan
guardian Snow - 18 Apr 2008 22:49 GMT On Apr 19, 7:44 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Deadsatan > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan Anorexia is a serious medical condition. Your calls for people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you to stop this immediately. If you are currently employed, You staffing supervisors will be notified of your online activity. They will be notified via ANAD the national association for anorexia nervosa associated eating disorders bulimia nervosa pro-ana, guardian angels school.
www.anad.org/
and
www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/
If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung. If he persist in this continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession. It is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the condition of the people you are delivering the message to.
See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state. Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology” in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the medical community.
Dr. Yamantaka Says, He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum community standards.
Mike Mordant says: Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices soon. He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000 and $280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain. It may get treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains lawful steward."
To that the web site states that:
after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only). -------------------------------------------- In other words, Mr. Chung is spamming all these web sites to create traffic at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name.
So, don’t visit the site. He’s just trying to drive up traffic numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of stupid spams. They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and everything to do with his desire to derive profits.
Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
> Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last > year ? No. The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the fellowship training in cardiology.
> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine. The cardiologist > who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both > internal and cardiovascular medicine. That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal medicine.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2008 22:55 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForSnow
<><
http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren
guardian Snow - 18 Apr 2008 23:00 GMT On Apr 19, 7:55 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForSnow > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempt to sell for half a million dollars to Emory University. He is spamming us to drive up traffic numbers and will not stop until we all complain about his tactics!
Anorexia is a serious medical condition. Your calls for people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you to stop this immediately. If you are currently employed, You staffing supervisors will be notified of your online activity. They will be notified via ANAD the national association for anorexia nervosa associated eating disorders bulimia nervosa pro-ana, guardian angels school.
www.anad.org/
and
www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/
If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung. If he persist in this continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession. It is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the condition of the people you are delivering the message to.
See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state. Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology” in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the medical community.
Dr. Yamantaka Says, He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum community standards.
Mike Mordant says: Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices soon. He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000 and $280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain. It may get treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains lawful steward."
To that Mr. Chungs web site states:
after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only). -------------------------------------------- In other words, Mr. Chung is spamming all these web sites to create traffic at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name.
So, don’t visit the site. He’s just trying to drive up traffic numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of stupid spams. They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and everything to do with his desire to derive profits.
Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
> Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last > year ? No. The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the fellowship training in cardiology.
> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine. The cardiologist > who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both > internal and cardiovascular medicine. That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal medicine.
Dr. Yamantaka also stated:
Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to answer these questions honestly. This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your mental illness and personality disorder.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2008 23:05 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForSnow
<><
http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren
SnowPheonix - 18 Apr 2008 23:04 GMT > On Apr 19, 7:44 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal > medicine. Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempt to sell for half a million dollars to Emory University. He is spamming us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until we all complain about his tactics!
Anorexia is a serious medical condition. Your calls for people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you to stop this immediately. If you are currently employed, You staffing supervisors will be notified of your online activity. They will be notified via ANAD the national association for anorexia nervosa associated eating disorders bulimia nervosa pro-ana, guardian angels school.
www.anad.org/
and
www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/
If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung. If he persist in this continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession. It is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the condition of the people you are delivering the message to.
See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state. Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology” in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the medical community.
Dr. Yamantaka Says, He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum community standards.
Mike Mordant says: Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices soon. He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000 and $280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain. It may get treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains lawful steward."
To that Mr. Chungs web site states:
after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only). -------------------------------------------- In other words, Mr. Chung is spamming all these web sites to create traffic at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name.
So, don’t visit the site. He’s just trying to drive up traffic numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of stupid spams. They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and everything to do with his desire to derive profits.
Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
> Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last > year ? No. The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the fellowship training in cardiology.
> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine. The cardiologist > who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both > internal and cardiovascular medicine. That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal medicine.
Dr. Yamantaka also stated:
Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to answer these questions honestly. This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your mental illness and personality disorder.
SnowPheonix - 18 Apr 2008 23:08 GMT Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempt to sell for half a million dollars to Emory University. He is spamming us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until we all complain about his tactics!
Anorexia is a serious medical condition. Your calls for people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you to stop this immediately. If you are currently employed, You staffing supervisors will be notified of your online activity. They will be notified via ANAD the national association for anorexia nervosa associated eating disorders bulimia nervosa pro-ana, guardian angels school.
www.anad.org/
and
www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/
If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung. If he persist in this continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession. It is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the condition of the people you are delivering the message to.
See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state. Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology” in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the medical community.
Dr. Yamantaka Says, He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum community standards.
Mike Mordant says: Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices soon. He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000 and $280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain. It may get treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains lawful steward."
To that Mr. Chungs web site states:
after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only). -------------------------------------------- In other words, Mr. Chung is spamming all these web sites to create traffic at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name.
So, don’t visit the site. He’s just trying to drive up traffic numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of stupid spams. They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and everything to do with his desire to derive profits.
Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
> Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last > year ? No. The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the fellowship training in cardiology.
> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine. The cardiologist > who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both > internal and cardiovascular medicine. That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal medicine.
Dr. Yamantaka also stated:
Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to answer these questions honestly. This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your mental illness and personality disorder. Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified Internist. I am. "Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing VAT. If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support your absurd claims, then STFU.
Mike Mordant - 18 Apr 2008 23:11 GMT On Apr 18, 4:44 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Deadsatan > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan Andrew, we have been over this before. I'm not impressed by your death threats. I realize that you wish me ill and are under the delusion that I'm Satan or some sort of demon. Andrew, that is not normal - you have problems. Get help.
yamantaka@aol.com - 19 Apr 2008 00:16 GMT > On Apr 18, 4:44 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > delusion that I'm Satan or some sort of demon. Andrew, that is not > normal - you have problems. Get help. Below is a statement from the Georgia Medical Board website. He is already under investigation. Further complaints about Chung's unprofessional conduct can be filed with the Board, even anonymously.
What is unprofessional conduct?
According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct includes "any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal standards of acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also include, but not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs, treatment or diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the patient as determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical care."
In general, examples of unprofessional conduct include, but are not limited to, physical abuse of a patient, inadequate record keeping, not recognizing or acting upon common symptoms, prescribing drugs in excessive amounts or without legitimate reason, personal impairment (mental or physical) that hinders safely practicing within the scope of one's license or certificate, performing duties beyond the scope of one's license or certificate and dishonesty. The Investigations and Discipline rules of the Georgia Medical Board, (Rule 360-3.02 and 360-3-.04), also provide additional examples of unprofessional conduct for which a licensee may be disciplined.
Phobos - 19 Apr 2008 01:00 GMT On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:16:39 -0500, yamantaka@aol.com wrote
> Below is a statement from the Georgia Medical Board website. He is > already under investigation. Further complaints about Chung's > unprofessional conduct can be filed with the Board, even anonymously. > ............. yamantaka
You are getting very close to Chung's abusrd recycled repetitive URLs and absurd comments and monkfish's absurd recycled repetitive questions and comments with your posting the same thing over and over many times a day.
The theme is good, but a little variation or mocking might be better - but like monkfish and Chung you will do as you want.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 01:21 GMT > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:16:39 -0500, yamantaka@aol.com wrote > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The theme is good, but a little variation or mocking might be better - > but like monkfish and Chung you will do as you want. Isn't everything better than mocking other people? Something must be wrong with your ethical system. Better have it checked by an expert.
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yamantaka@aol.com - 19 Apr 2008 01:39 GMT > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:16:39 -0500, yamant...@aol.com wrote > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The theme is good, but a little variation or mocking might be better - but > like monkfish and Chung you will do as you want. Phobos, pot, kettle, black.
You and your endless drivel duet with that idiot monkfish could use some variation too.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 01:44 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesssatan
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yamantaka@aol.com - 19 Apr 2008 02:07 GMT On Apr 18, 5:44 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesschung http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesssatan
Here's the link to the original thread: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_thread/thread/dbed0606d 30bd654/0716b129dc575afd?#0716b129dc575afd
Mouse House! Louses doused!
Thank you Andrew for constantly providing a link to that thread in which you prove that you are incompetent to practice medicine.
You gave the original poster bad medical advice. I countered with reasonable medical advice according to the current community standards. You then called me "Satan" and others admonished you for doing so and told you that I had given reasonable medical advice. .
You have unwittingly proved that you are an idiot.
You have exposed your own lies.
Pray for your perishing soul that is mired in mental illness and mean- spirited hubris.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 02:18 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/ARF
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J666 - 19 Apr 2008 03:04 GMT The US government today announced a new special division of the USDA who main function will be tom inspect and moke sure the chickens are properly boarded.
Dr. Andrews will head the new divsion. "We want to make sure all the chickens are boarded properly" Dr Andrews said. He added "We are all The Celestial Chickens children and chickens should all be boarded and onlu boarded chickens are good."
The certification will need to be renewed every few years and all should stay away from non-boarded chickens
The Dvision will be called: Department of Boarded Chickens
Since this is new, the USDA plans on a flurry of announcements that will be repeated frequently as many seem to need to told many times and the USDA wants to make sure the public is aware of the danger of non-boarded chickens.
Dr. Andrews added - "We want a chicken in every pot, but do not want any non-boarded chicken to be in any black kettle or pot."
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 03:05 GMT On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:39:11 -0700, yamantaka wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:16:39 -0500, yamant...@aol.com wrote >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > You and your endless drivel duet with that idiot monkfish could use some > variation too. Do you believe in money?
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yamantaka@aol.com - 18 Apr 2008 04:45 GMT On Apr 17, 6:47 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 104 lines] > Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com > A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow Andrew, please answer the questions I've asked above in this thread.
yamantaka@aol.com - 18 Apr 2008 14:34 GMT On Apr 17, 8:45 pm, yamant...@aol.com wrote:
> On Apr 17, 6:47 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <snip Chung Dung>
> Andrew, please answer the questions I've asked above in this thread. Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to answer these questions honestly.
This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your mental illness and personality disorder.
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