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Ping Dr Chung -- Certification Question

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Michael F. Poellot - 17 Apr 2008 21:03 GMT
Dr. Chung:

I noticed that you aren't a Board Certified Internist anymore.  What
happened ?  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
year ?  Please answer sincerly.  

MP
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Apr 2008 22:46 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForPoellot

> Dr. Chung:
>
> I noticed that you aren't a Board Certified Internist anymore.  What
> happened ?

Nothing.

>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.  The maintenance of certification
in internal medicine is neither required nor needed for my calling as
a cardiologist and sends the wrong message to the internists who refer
their patients to me.  Instead, referring internists are now more
certain than ever that I will not be stealing their patients from them
by wearing the hat of a competing internist.

>  Please answer sincerly.

It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully, instead.

It is my hope that you will understand that being truthful is
infinitely better than being sincere, which would only be superficial.

May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

> MP
yamantaka@aol.com - 17 Apr 2008 23:03 GMT
On Apr 17, 2:46 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForPoellot
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> certain than ever that I will not be stealing their patients from them
> by wearing the hat of a competing internist.

Andrew, you repeatedly write about managing diabetics. That would be
the task of an internist or an endocrinologist, not a cardiologist.
That would be considered to be "wearing the hat of a competing
internist."  You give noncardiology-related advice about internal
medicine conditions  such as diabetes and cholesterol and diet and
always say, "in our collective clinical experience." Please clarify
then. Is it you who is having current clinical experience?  You are no
longer a Board Certified Internist.

How many patients do you see per week? Even if you are a noninvasive
cardiologist and don't do angiograms, how can you manage cardiology
patients if you don't have hospital admitting privileges. Who admits
your patients for you?   With whom do you currently practice? How many
physicians are in your practice? What is there specialty?

Maintaining your Georgia Medical license requires that you are
completing a certain amount of CME (Continuing Medical Education)
credits from certain, verifiable and accepted sources. These sources
tend to be from main stream, evidence-based medical sources. Places
and programs where " a discerning heart" or "because it's what God
wants" or idiosyncratic misinterpretations of Scripture would not be
the correct answer. What CME programs do you attend in order to
maintain your Georgia license?

You talk about "measuring" VAT. Please cite sources about how this is
done. What are the units of measurement? How is it tested? How often
is it tested? How do you know when it is gone for any particular
patient? Please cite the peer reviewed sources for your info and your
claims that if VAT is gone, blood sugar is controlled.

> It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully, instead.

Then please be sure to answer my questions truthfully. I will know if
you are lying, whether you lie by omission or commission.
J A - 17 Apr 2008 23:12 GMT
A lot of good points.

In addition, how does the 2 pds. of McDonalds junk food, lard, candy,
lettuce or whatever, go down with the internal med. and cardiology
communities?

> On Apr 17, 2:46 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> > I noticed that you aren't a Board Certified Internist anymore.  What
>> > happened ?

>> Nothing.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> Then please be sure to answer my questions truthfully. I will know if
> you are lying, whether you lie by omission or commission.
Mike Mordant - 17 Apr 2008 23:29 GMT
On Apr 17, 5:03 pm, yamant...@aol.com wrote:
> On Apr 17, 2:46 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> Then please be sure to answer my questions truthfully. I will know if
> you are lying, whether you lie by omission or commission.

If I may, I would like to add a couple of minor points to your
questions for Dr. Chung.

1. His web site includes his CV
http://www.heartmdphd.com/ac_cv1.asp
It states when he passed his board certifications but does not address
the current status of those credentials.  That could be somewhat
misleading -  I wonder if he plans on clarifying that point.

2. His site also includes a press release about his conducting a VAT
screening but does not go into how that is done.
http://www.heartmdphd.com/press.asp
Is that a common procedure? Does it have any clinical value?  I would
be very interested in how that is accomplished.
J666 - 17 Apr 2008 23:13 GMT
> Instead, referring internists are now more
> certain than ever that I will not be stealing their patients from them
> by wearing the hat of a competing internist.

The honoralbe specialist will make sure that they do not steal the patients,
no matter what boards they have.  Anyway, the referring doctor will soon
realize that and stop referring any more patients and the problem will be
solved and the specialist will get no more referrals.

Today,  more and more insurance coverage, from private to medicaid to
Medicare, require a referral for a patient to be seen by the specialist.

Not to stand up for Chung, but more and more doctors are considering not
renewing their boards because of the expense - one big argument in remaing
board certified is some hospitals and insurances require board certification.
Of course, if you do not need to have hospital privileges or take those
insurances, then no need - except, the handsriting is on the wall - board
certification is going to be needed more and more for hospital privileges and
insurances.

As it seems that Chung does not see patients in a hospital or even in an
office,. the boards are not needed.
yamantaka@aol.com - 17 Apr 2008 23:24 GMT
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:46:33 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
> (in message
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > certain than ever that I will not be stealing their patients from them
> > by wearing the hat of a competing internist.

What service do you offer these patients as a cardiologist, Andrew? I
am an internist and when I refer to a cardiologist, it's for
management of something such as angina not controlled on meds. I am
asking my cardiologist colleague whether s/he thinks my patient needs
an angiogram and possibly a percutaneous intervention, which is a
procedure I do not do since I am not a cardiologist.

If my cardiology colleague thinks such a procedure is indicated, he
will then do it himself, in the hospital. If you aren't able to do
such a procedure due to no hospital privileges, then what do you offer
the patients or internists who refer patients to you? Why would any
competent internist consult you when they can do all the management
that you could do as an office-based, non-interventional cardiologist
without hospital privileges? So what sort of "cardiology hat" are you
wearing?

> As it seems that Chung does not see patients in a hospital or even in an
> office,. the boards are not needed.
Michael F. Poellot - 17 Apr 2008 23:53 GMT
>>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
>> year ?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>certain than ever that I will not be stealing their patients from them
>by wearing the hat of a competing internist.

Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
internal and cardiovascular medicine. I expect, as a patient, _both_
credentials.  

>>  Please answer sincerly.
>
>It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully, instead.
>
>It is my hope that you will understand that being truthful is
>infinitely better than being sincere, which would only be superficial.


A sincere person is not superficial in my opinion.  

MP
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2008 02:47 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForPoellot

> >>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> >> year ?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

> I expect, as a patient, _both_ credentials.

That would be your choice to have that expectation.  Meanwhile, I am
called to serve my patients as their cardiologist and not as their
primary physician.  Not recertifying in internal medicine makes this
focus clearer.

> >>  Please answer sincerly.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> A sincere person is not superficial in my opinion.

Without the truth, sincerity is just an exterior that is "without
wax."

May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Machete - 18 Apr 2008 04:30 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> primary physician.  Not recertifying in internal medicine makes this
> focus clearer.

Patients?  Hmmm, are you drinking tonight Chung?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2008 11:06 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren
yamantaka@aol.com - 18 Apr 2008 16:27 GMT
On Apr 18, 3:06 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren

Chung, that you are unable or unwilling to answer the reasonable
questions I've asked you above  regarding your claims of practice and
the scope of your medical practice proves that you are dishonest. You
lie by both omission and comission.
Machete - 18 Apr 2008 20:45 GMT
On Apr 18, 3:06 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren

Chung, that you are unable or unwilling to answer the reasonable
questions I've asked you above  regarding your claims of practice and
the scope of your medical practice proves that you are dishonest. You
lie by both omission and comission.

I've asked him the same damn questions four or five times and he's never
even commented, the man is lost in a vast sea of mental illness and internet
obsession.  Playing God over this group is his favorite hobby, it's kind of
like a board game for him.

Chung's favorite hobby as a kid was probably playing monopoly by himself.
Mike Mordant - 18 Apr 2008 21:30 GMT
> <yamant...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----http://www.newsfeeds.comThe #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

He always has his imaginary playmate.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2008 22:44 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Deadsatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan
guardian Snow - 18 Apr 2008 22:49 GMT
On Apr 19, 7:44 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Deadsatan
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan

Anorexia is a serious medical condition.  Your calls for people to "go
hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you to stop this
immediately.  If you are currently employed, You staffing supervisors
will be notified of your online activity.  They will be notified via
ANAD the national association for anorexia nervosa associated eating
disorders bulimia nervosa pro-ana, guardian angels school.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung.  If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession.  It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.

Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.

Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon.  He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain.  It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that the web site states that:

after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).
--------------------------------------------
In other words,  Mr. Chung is spamming all these web sites to create
traffic at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into
paying a ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name.

So, don’t visit the site.  He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams.  They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.

Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.

> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2008 22:55 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForSnow

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren
guardian Snow - 18 Apr 2008 23:00 GMT
On Apr 19, 7:55 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForSnow
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren

Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempt to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University.  He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers and will not stop until we all complain
about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition.  Your calls for people to "go
hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you to stop this
immediately.  If you are currently employed, You staffing supervisors
will be notified of your online activity.  They will be notified via
ANAD the national association for anorexia nervosa associated eating
disorders bulimia nervosa pro-ana, guardian angels school.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung.  If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession.  It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.

Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.

Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon.  He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain.  It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chungs web site states:

after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).
--------------------------------------------
In other words,  Mr. Chung is spamming all these web sites to create
traffic at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into
paying a ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name.

So, don’t visit the site.  He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams.  They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.

Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.

> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.
This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2008 23:05 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForSnow

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren
SnowPheonix - 18 Apr 2008 23:04 GMT
> On Apr 19, 7:44 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>
[quoted text clipped - 79 lines]
> That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
> medicine.

Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempt to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University.  He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
we all complain about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition.  Your calls for people to "go
hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you to stop this
immediately.  If you are currently employed, You staffing supervisors
will be notified of your online activity.  They will be notified via
ANAD the national association for anorexia nervosa associated eating
disorders bulimia nervosa pro-ana, guardian angels school.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung.  If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession.  It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.

Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.

Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon.  He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain.  It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chungs web site states:

after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).
--------------------------------------------
In other words,  Mr. Chung is spamming all these web sites to create
traffic at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into
paying a ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name.

So, don’t visit the site.  He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams.  They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.

Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.

> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.
This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.
SnowPheonix - 18 Apr 2008 23:08 GMT
Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempt to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University.  He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
we all complain about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition.  Your calls for people to "go
hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you to stop this
immediately.  If you are currently employed, You staffing supervisors
will be notified of your online activity.  They will be notified via
ANAD the national association for anorexia nervosa associated eating
disorders bulimia nervosa pro-ana, guardian angels school.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung.  If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession.  It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.

Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.

Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon.  He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain.  It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chungs web site states:

after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).
--------------------------------------------
In other words,  Mr. Chung is spamming all these web sites to create
traffic at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into
paying a ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name.

So, don’t visit the site.  He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams.  They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.

Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.

> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.
This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.
Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified
Internist. I am.
"Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to
offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How
does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer
reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing
VAT.
If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support
your absurd claims, then STFU.
Mike Mordant - 18 Apr 2008 23:11 GMT
On Apr 18, 4:44 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Deadsatan
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan

Andrew,  we have been over this before.  I'm not impressed by your
death threats.  I realize that you wish me ill and are under the
delusion that I'm Satan or some sort of demon.  Andrew, that is not
normal - you have problems.  Get help.
yamantaka@aol.com - 19 Apr 2008 00:16 GMT
> On Apr 18, 4:44 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> delusion that I'm Satan or some sort of demon.  Andrew, that is not
> normal - you have problems.  Get help.

Below is a statement from the Georgia Medical Board website. He is
already under investigation. Further complaints about Chung's
unprofessional conduct can be filed with the Board, even anonymously.

What is unprofessional conduct?

According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct includes
"any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal standards of
acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also include, but
not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs, treatment or
diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the patient as
determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical care."

In general, examples of unprofessional conduct include, but are not
limited to, physical abuse of a patient, inadequate record keeping,
not recognizing or acting upon common symptoms, prescribing drugs in
excessive amounts or without legitimate reason, personal impairment
(mental or physical) that hinders safely practicing within the scope
of one's license or certificate, performing duties beyond the scope of
one's license or certificate and dishonesty. The Investigations and
Discipline rules of the Georgia Medical Board, (Rule 360-3.02 and
360-3-.04), also provide additional examples of unprofessional conduct
for which a licensee may be disciplined.
Phobos - 19 Apr 2008 01:00 GMT
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:16:39 -0500, yamantaka@aol.com wrote

> Below is a statement from the Georgia Medical Board website. He is
> already under investigation. Further complaints about Chung's
> unprofessional conduct can be filed with the Board, even anonymously.
> .............

yamantaka

You are getting very close to Chung's abusrd recycled repetitive URLs and
absurd comments and monkfish's absurd recycled repetitive questions and
comments with your posting the same thing over and over many times a day.

The theme is good, but a little variation or mocking might be better - but
like monkfish and Chung you will do as you want.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 01:21 GMT
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:16:39 -0500, yamantaka@aol.com wrote
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> The theme is good, but a little variation or mocking might be better -
> but like monkfish and Chung you will do as you want.

Isn't everything better than mocking other people?
Something must be wrong with your ethical system.
Better have it checked by an expert.

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yamantaka@aol.com - 19 Apr 2008 01:39 GMT
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:16:39 -0500, yamant...@aol.com wrote
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> The theme is good, but a little variation or mocking might be better - but
> like monkfish and Chung you will do as you want.

Phobos, pot, kettle, black.

You and your endless drivel duet with that idiot monkfish could use
some variation too.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 01:44 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesssatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan
yamantaka@aol.com - 19 Apr 2008 02:07 GMT
On Apr 18, 5:44 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesschung

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Valuelesssatan

Here's the link to the original thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_thread/thread/dbed0606d
30bd654/0716b129dc575afd?#0716b129dc575afd


Mouse House! Louses doused!

Thank you Andrew for constantly providing a link to that thread in
which you prove that you are incompetent to practice medicine.

You gave the original poster bad medical advice. I countered with
reasonable medical advice according to the current community
standards. You then called me "Satan" and others admonished you for
doing so and told you that I had given reasonable medical advice. .

You have unwittingly proved that you are an idiot.

You have exposed your own lies.

Pray for your perishing soul that is mired in mental illness and
mean-
spirited hubris.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 02:18 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/ARF

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren
J666 - 19 Apr 2008 03:04 GMT
The US government today announced a new special division of the USDA who main
function will be tom inspect and moke sure the chickens are properly boarded.

Dr. Andrews will head the new divsion. "We want to make sure all the chickens
are boarded properly" Dr Andrews said.  He added "We are all The Celestial
Chickens children and chickens should all be boarded and onlu boarded
chickens are good."

The certification will need to be renewed every few years and all should stay
away from non-boarded chickens

The Dvision will be called: Department of Boarded Chickens

Since this is new, the USDA plans on a flurry of announcements that will be
repeated frequently as many seem to need to told many times and the USDA
wants to make sure the public is aware of the danger of non-boarded chickens.

Dr. Andrews added - "We want a chicken in every pot, but do not want any
non-boarded chicken to be in any black kettle or pot."
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 03:05 GMT
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:39:11 -0700, yamantaka wrote:

>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:16:39 -0500, yamant...@aol.com wrote
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> You and your endless drivel duet with that idiot monkfish could use some
> variation too.

Do you believe in money?

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yamantaka@aol.com - 18 Apr 2008 04:45 GMT
On Apr 17, 6:47 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 104 lines]
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

Andrew, please answer the questions I've asked above in this thread.
yamantaka@aol.com - 18 Apr 2008 14:34 GMT
On Apr 17, 8:45 pm, yamant...@aol.com wrote:
> On Apr 17, 6:47 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<snip Chung Dung>

> Andrew, please answer the questions I've asked above in this thread.

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.

This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.
 
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