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Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 04:53 GMT
Here, Andy, you'll need a map of the Pacific to
get yourself to China:

http://files.meetup.com/238907/middle%20earth%20map%20wallpaper.jpg
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 08:40 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan

is still...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan

forevermore:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega

guaranteed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/ProofsByGOD

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 08:48 GMT
On Apr 12, 3:40 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan

So sorry, my bad.  Here's the right map:

http://www.oz-central.com/graphic/p_map_01x.jpg
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 08:51 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan
Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 09:12 GMT
On Apr 12, 3:51 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan

http://apartments-rentals.fabrussia.com/moscow-guide/img-moscow-metro-map/moscow
-metro-map.gif

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 09:17 GMT
You are...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Deadsatan
Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 09:21 GMT
On Apr 12, 4:17 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> You are...
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Deadsatan

http://www.visuallee.com/weblog/images/galactic_neighborhood.gif
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 09:23 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan
Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 16:28 GMT
On Apr 12, 4:23 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/19694/19694-h/images/015.jpg
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 16:33 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet
Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 18:11 GMT
On Apr 12, 11:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet

http://www.odt.org/Pictures/mcarthursmap.jpg
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 18:41 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan
Machete - 16 Apr 2008 04:52 GMT
> On Apr 12, 11:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet
>
> http://www.odt.org/Pictures/mcarthursmap.jpg

Is this the only navigational help you're going to provide Chung?  This is
going to be the easiest 15 grand you ever made FH.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Apr 2008 10:46 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets
Father Haskell - 16 Apr 2008 20:51 GMT
> > On Apr 12, 11:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Is this the only navigational help you're going to provide Chung?  This is
> going to be the easiest 15 grand you ever made FH.

That and a few helpful tips I learned in the Scouts,
such as how moss always grows on the north side of
a tree.
Machete - 17 Apr 2008 00:30 GMT
>> > On Apr 12, 11:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> such as how moss always grows on the north side of
> a tree.

Make sure he knows what the Gulf Stream is and how it works, just a cursory
overview (20 seconds or less) will suffice.  You might want to clue him on
on the likelyhood of giant rogue waves turning his boat into a wooden
missile at some point during the journey.  Should I provide seatbelts, or
would it do more harm than good?  Chung's 80 pound pack might cause a
problem if he does a Peter Pan over the edge of the boat.
Father Haskell - 17 Apr 2008 03:16 GMT
> >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> would it do more harm than good?  Chung's 80 pound pack might cause a
> problem if he does a Peter Pan over the edge of the boat.

It's fair and gentle seas up until the North Sea, presuming
he survives the ice packs, which should be calving heavily
now that summer is on its way.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Apr 2008 05:01 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/DumbSockPuppets

of

http://HeartMDphD.com/Imbecilesatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren
Machete - 17 Apr 2008 05:36 GMT
>> >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> he survives the ice packs, which should be calving heavily
> now that summer is on its way.

Well, sounds like you've provided a safe route, Chung should thank you for
this encouraging piece of information FH.
Father Haskell - 17 Apr 2008 06:38 GMT
> >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> Well, sounds like you've provided a safe route, Chung should thank you for
> this encouraging piece of information FH.

Hmm.  Guess what sank on her maiden voyage from Southampton to
New York on April 15, 1912 -- anniversary two days ago?
Machete - 17 Apr 2008 07:13 GMT
>> >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> Hmm.  Guess what sank on her maiden voyage from Southampton to
> New York on April 15, 1912 -- anniversary two days ago?

Bugger me, iceberg right ahead!  Fortunately for Chung, his *ship* will only
be able to reach a top speed of 3 knots and this should prevent him from
slamming into any bergs capable of sinking the RMS-Wanger.  Perhaps I should
consider investing in an old outboard motor.  My dad has an 1983 Evinrude,
100HP.  It could cause the boat to sink even lower into the water but with
that amount of HP, Chung's boat could probably reach speeds of 45MPH without
much trouble.  Again, the size and weight of the boat has to be considered
though and with a 300 pound boat ( plenty of holes) a large motor might
cause other problems.  Oh well, I'll look into the Evinrude.  Chung would
have to stop off along the way to get extra fuel but that's his problem.
Given the weight of the gear, motor and crew, the boat would have the life
expectancy of a common housefly, but we can't have Chung taking eight months
to reach his destination.  Risks must be taken.
Father Haskell - 17 Apr 2008 08:29 GMT
> >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 58 lines]
> expectancy of a common housefly, but we can't have Chung taking eight months
> to reach his destination.  Risks must be taken.

Indeed, what with the earthquakes off the Oregon coast
even as we speak.
Machete - 18 Apr 2008 04:16 GMT
>> >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 73 lines]
> Indeed, what with the earthquakes off the Oregon coast
> even as we speak.

Yeah, I don't imagine the Omer-Wanger would fair well against a tsunami of
40 or 50 feet.  I still haven't read a thanks for Chung for the 100HP motor,
it will make it much easier on him physically and will cut his trip from
8-10 months to perhaps a month, if he makes it out of US waters, err, I
mean, if he doesn't run out of gas.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 04:22 GMT
> "Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> trip from 8-10 months to perhaps a month, if he makes it out of US
> waters, err, I mean, if he doesn't run out of gas.

Do you own a gun?

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Machete - 18 Apr 2008 06:39 GMT
>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Do you own a gun?

There's that verbiage again, please, wipe your a.s before you speak next
time.
J666 - 18 Apr 2008 13:06 GMT
> There's that verbiage again, please, wipe your a.s before you speak next
> time.

Wonder if monkcrap has brown eyes which may explain a shitty outlook.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 17:56 GMT
>>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> There's that verbiage again, please, wipe your a.s before you speak next
> time.

Just checking whether you are suicidal or not.

Have you read any theology book lately?

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Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 03:07 GMT
> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Have you read any theology book lately?

Does the Satanic Bible count?
J666 - 19 Apr 2008 03:21 GMT
>> Have you read any theology book lately?
>
> Does the Satanic Bible count?

Remember the Chible, was written using one of the Celestial Chicken's feather
as a quill.

The feather is mighter than the sword
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 03:43 GMT
>> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Does the Satanic Bible count?

No.

Have you read any book lately?

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Machete - 19 Apr 2008 04:03 GMT
>>> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Have you read any book lately?

Somehow I get the feeling that he's just a bit more schooled than you.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 04:35 GMT
>>>> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Somehow I get the feeling that he's just a bit more schooled than you.

I know even you don't trust your judgment.
What kind of heart problem do you have?

BTW I would love to remove SMC from the header;
but somehow that drives J666 crazy.

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Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 07:42 GMT
> >> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> No.

Why not?

> Have you read any book lately?

You'd read the Satanic Bible, except being forced
to think would kill you.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 16:40 GMT
>> >> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> You'd read the Satanic Bible, except being forced to think would kill
> you.

Try to read some philosophy books.

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Machete - 19 Apr 2008 03:51 GMT
>> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Does the Satanic Bible count?

Sure but what about The Book of the Law?
Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 07:49 GMT
> >> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Sure but what about The Book of the Law?

Did you burn your copy after reading it?

If you didn't, you're f.cked.
Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 03:07 GMT
> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Do you own a gun?

What, are you proposing he KILL Chung?
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 03:42 GMT
>> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> What, are you proposing he KILL Chung?

No.
I'm just wondering whether he is suicidal.

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Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 07:51 GMT
> >> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> No.
> I'm just wondering whether he is suicidal.

No one's falling for that transparent lie.

Monkfish wants to kill you, Andy.  Run!
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 16:42 GMT
>> >> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Monkfish wants to kill you, Andy.  Run!

Have you ever killed anyone?

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Machete - 19 Apr 2008 04:02 GMT
>> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> What, are you proposing he KILL Chung?

I think he's actually starting to foam at the mouth now, I'm having a hard
time trying to figure out who's more in need of psychiatric help, fish or
chung.  Evidently, he deduced that I was suicidal because I didn't like
Chung.  I'm starting to wonder if Monkeybutt has been absuing Datura.

As for Chung, he is certainly in no danger from anyone in this group.  Andy
already had his near death experience when he was beaten up by a 13 year old
while trying to preach at a Bar Mitzvah.  He said is was the parking police
at some college but we all know better.

Chung's only concern should be his 14,000 mile trip and keeping the large
plastic chicken attached to his boat while he cruises the Atlantic at speeds
up to 40 knots.

By the way FH, any idea where I could get some C-Rations left over from
Korea or Nam?  These might come in handy for Chung, I suspect they have a
shelf life of about 150 years.
Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 07:59 GMT
> >> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> Korea or Nam?  These might come in handy for Chung, I suspect they have a
> shelf life of about 150 years.

Will pet food do?  Dog biscuits should substitute well
for 60 year old survival biscuits.  Neither one apparently
has any actual taste.

How about some made-in-China Greenies from Sam's Club
to keep his teeth clean and his breath chlorophyll fresh?

Speaking of peridontal issues, he'll need plenty of
fresh fruit to keep his teeth from falling out.  Captain
Bligh kept his crew from the ravages of scurvy by
stocking up on bread fruit.  Certainly there'll be
ample breadfruit trees along his route?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 09:23 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan
J666 - 19 Apr 2008 13:21 GMT
> Speaking of peridontal issues

Preparation H will work for him.
Machete - 19 Apr 2008 14:29 GMT
>> Speaking of peridontal issues
>
> Preparation H will work for him.

I can't allow that, rubbing alcohol will take down the swelling.  Might be a
bit painful but what is pain to a man who fasted for 387 days!
Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 20:43 GMT
> > On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 1:59:28 -0500, Father Haskell wrote
> > (in message
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I can't allow that, rubbing alcohol will take down the swelling.  Might be a
> bit painful but what is pain to a man who fasted for 387 days!

How about lemon juice?  He could shove a
whole lemon up his butt, and get his daily
dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the
same time.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 20:52 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Foolishsatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan
Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 20:56 GMT
On Apr 19, 3:52 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Foolishsatan
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan

Try to help.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 21:03 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Worthlesssatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren
J666 - 19 Apr 2008 22:18 GMT
> How about lemon juice?  He could shove a
> whole lemon up his butt, and get his daily
> dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the
> same time.

Doing that will make his lips pucker up
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 22:56 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatssatan
Machete - 20 Apr 2008 01:09 GMT
>> How about lemon juice?  He could shove a
>> whole lemon up his butt, and get his daily
>> dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the
>> same time.
>
> Doing that will make his lips pucker up

Well, at least that would shut him up so his mate doesn't have to listen to
him.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 01:14 GMT
>>> How about lemon juice?  He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and
>>> get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Well, at least that would shut him up so his mate doesn't have to listen
> to him.

Pitiful.

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Father Haskell - 20 Apr 2008 02:28 GMT
> >>> How about lemon juice?  He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and
> >>> get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Pitiful.

Think of poor Mr. Shabazz's happiness for once.
He so wanted a teak bar on that luxury appointed
yacht that he was going to follow Chung with.
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 02:54 GMT
>>>>> How about lemon juice?  He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and
>>>>> get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> He so wanted a teak bar on that luxury appointed
> yacht that he was going to follow Chung with.

He doth protest too mucn.

Maybe he wants to go as Chung's mate. Maybe he is jealous of Mr. Shabazz

Do they need an anchor or fish bait for trolling.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 03:41 GMT
>>>>>> How about lemon juice?  He could shove a whole lemon up his butt,
>>>>>> and get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Do they need an anchor or fish bait for trolling.

Still trolling?
Final warning.

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Machete - 20 Apr 2008 04:04 GMT
>> >>> How about lemon juice?  He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and
>> >>> get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> He so wanted a teak bar on that luxury appointed
> yacht that he was going to follow Chung with.

Yes but keep in mind that Mr. Shabbaz just got released from prison for
strong armed robery, he's just done some hard time.  Being out on the open
sea with Chung might give him an opportunity to take some aggresion out,
oops, I mean, get some fresh air and enjoy the luxery cruiser complete with
100HP motor.  Plus, he's getting paid 40,000 dollars (from Chung.)  When
Chung arrives overseas (if) he'll certainly need some protection as his
mouth, doubtless, will get him into trouble.  Shabbaz will require
additional protection money for each individual incident (1,000 a piece.)
He could earn over 75,000 dollars on this trip and get his pimp and drug
business going again!  It may sound like a bum deal for Shabbaz, but he's
actually excited about it!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 04:16 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthStabssatan
guardian Snow - 20 Apr 2008 04:19 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthStabssatan

CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA
5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B |
MABLETON, GA  30126
(404) 699-2780

Notice that Chung doesn’t address a single issue he’s been called up
on. Change the titles on threads he post, he’s a control freak and
hates it.

Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempting to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University.  He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
we all complain about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition.  Your calls (Mr. Chung) for
people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you
to stop this immediately.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung.  If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession.  It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.

Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.

Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon.  He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain.  It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chung’s web site states:

“after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value.  However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content.  If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).”

In other words,  Mr. Chung is spamming us on usenet to create traffic
at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a
ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name. There is very little
content on the site and nothing of any medical value.

So, don’t visit the site.  He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams.  They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.

Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.

> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.

This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.

Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified
Internist. I am.

"Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to
offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How
does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer
reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing
VAT.
If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support
your absurd claims, then stop.
His license is already under investigation. Anyone wishing to add his/
her complaints about Chung's unprofessional behavior and absurd,
nonstandard medical advice can also contact the Board. It can be done
anonymously.
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From the website of the Georgia Medical Board:

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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 06:10 GMT
How many of the Celestial Chicken's chickens have given their life so man can
live.  How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live.

Hail Maggie,
Full of Chickenfeed,
The Celestial Chicken is with thee.
Blessed art thou among hens,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy egg, Chickie.
Holy Maggie,
Mother of Celestial Chicken,
pray for us friers now,
and at the hour of our deep frying
Terry Cross - 20 Apr 2008 06:31 GMT
> Re: How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live?

None.  A person would barbecue a live chicken only for love of
cruelty, not for food.

Sometimes you make really dumb remarks.  In fact, most of the time
your remarks are really dumb.

TCross
Machete - 20 Apr 2008 13:53 GMT
>> Re: How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live?
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> TCross

That you Fish?
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 16:02 GMT
>> Re: How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live?
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> TCross

If you don't get it, I will not try to explain it to you.
Terry Cross - 20 Apr 2008 17:18 GMT
> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 0:31:44 -0500, Terry Cross wrote
> (in message
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> If you don't get it, I will not try to explain it to you.

I get the part you did not intend - you flashing your stupidity to the
world.

TCross
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 18:23 GMT
> I get the part you did not intend - you flashing your stupidity to the
> world.
>
> TCross

Get a life and open up your narrow rigid mind - your comment says far more
about you.  I'll leave it to your response for the last word.
Terry Cross - 20 Apr 2008 18:43 GMT
> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:18:24 -0500, Terry Cross wrote
> (in message
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Get a life and open up your narrow rigid mind - your comment says far more
> about you.  I'll leave it to your response for the last word.

Except in your sadistic imagination, chickens do not die on barbecue
spits.  How interesting that you Atheists consider the simple truth to
be "narrow and rigid."

TCross
Phobos - 20 Apr 2008 19:31 GMT
>> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:18:24 -0500, Terry Cross wrote
>> (in message
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> TCross

Carrying an analogy to a somewhat exaggerated and even intentionally absurd
end, is a way to make a point.

You obviously do not agree and seem overly sensitive to this analogy.

It seems to me that the problem with many believers in God (the God of
Abraham) is that they (Jews, Christians and Muslims) spend more time
promoting, interpreting and defending their scriptures (Old Testament, New
Testament and Koran) and rituals and attacking the other's scriptures and
rituals rather than trying to live according to their beliefs.

It does seem NOT to be universal agreement on just which, if any of these,
are the Right Way as each equally claims they are right and others are wrong.
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 20:33 GMT
> Carrying an analogy to a somewhat exaggerated and even intentionally absurd
> end, is a way to make a point.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> It does seem NOT to be universal agreement on just which, if any of these,
> are the Right Way as each equally claims they are right and others are wrong.

It does seem that many people of faith are more concerned with
scriptures/rituals and what others think and say than with God Himself.

It does seem unusual that some who believe with their "heart and soul" about
God are so bothered by comments from those whom they view as "idiots."  You
have to wonder just how strongly they believe themselves to be right if
comments from an "idiot" are of a concern.  Could it be that those other
words may sound reasonable and not idiotic to others and so that is the
reason for the comments.

As is said, many times a person's pejorative words referring to others
acutally say far more about him/herself than the other person.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 21:08 GMT
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:

"How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live."
-- satan.

> > Carrying an analogy to a somewhat exaggerated and even intentionally absurd
> > end, is a way to make a point.

Your intention here is to mock the death of LORD Jesus Christ.

This has backfired because HE is risen and now sits at the right hand
of GOD the Father.

Therefore, you, the mocker, is seen by all to be:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan

who remains:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan

forevermore:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega

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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 21:15 GMT
> Your intention here is to mock the death of LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> This has backfired because HE is risen and now sits at the right hand
> of GOD the Father.

Your intention here is to mock the death of Celestial Chickeen Chickie.

This has backfired because Chickie is risen and now sits at the right hand
of the Celestial Chicken the Father.

http://CelestialChicken.org/Truth

Laus Pollo !!!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 21:18 GMT
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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 21:28 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatsatan

http://CelestialChicken.org/ImbecileHadesFox

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 .....
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  | |

http://CelestialChicken.org/TruthBeatHadesFox
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 21:30 GMT
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan
> >
> > <><
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatsatan
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 21:38 GMT
> http://CelestialChicken.org/ImbecileHadesFox
>
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>
> http://CelestialChicken.org/TruthBeatHadesFox

Laus Pollo
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 00:07 GMT
>>>> I get the part you did not intend - you flashing your stupidity to
>>>> the world.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> these, are the Right Way as each equally claims they are right and
> others are wrong.

You are making a baseless allegation.
So far as I can tell, most Christians are
just trying to live their lives
as best as they can according to their faith.
They even study theology to make sure
they do so correctly.

Are you trying to live your life
as best as you can?
If so, according to what?

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Terry Cross - 21 Apr 2008 04:26 GMT
> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:43:20 -0500, Terry Cross wrote
> (in message
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Carrying an analogy to a somewhat exaggerated and even intentionally absurd
> end, is a way to make a point.

If you shoot at a basket and miss, you miss and you don't get the
point.  Please don't ask the opposition to retrieve the rebound and
correct the error.  And no one gets points for "trying."

> You obviously do not agree and seem overly sensitive to this analogy.

I will be willing to laugh about the Crucifixion with the first Jew
who considers the Holocaust a joke.

> It seems to me that the problem with many believers in God (the God of
> Abraham) is that they (Jews, Christians and Muslims) spend more time
> promoting, interpreting and defending their scriptures (Old Testament, New
> Testament and Koran) and rituals and attacking the other's scriptures and
> rituals rather than trying to live according to their beliefs.

Those who live by their beliefs in the Old Testament (Torah, Tanakh)
are savages.

> It does seem NOT to be universal agreement on just which, if any of these,
> are the Right Way as each equally claims they are right and others are wrong.

Which scripture endorses sexual mutilation of children?  Which
scripture endorses extermination or enslavement of non-believers?
Which scripture assures the believers that God curses all non-
believers?  Which document endorses racism, sexism, and public
stonings?  Which document pretends to absolve sin byu slaughtering
animals and sprinkling the blood on the penitents?

Two scriptures uphold morality and strive for a better world.  One
would return the world to a craven cult living in terror of a blood-
crazed hereditary priesthood.  Can you tell which is which?

TCross
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 21:10 GMT
Next Sunday in Mableton Georgia at  5701 Mableton Parkway 2 B there will be a
barbecue chicken dinner and prayer meeting and VAT screening to raise money
for Dr. Chung's upcoming ocean voyage to make the world safe from bird flu.

For details go to:

http://heartmephd.com/Chicken_Prayer_VATScreening

We are thanfkful to all the chickens who are willing to give their life for
this noble cause.

Laus Pollo
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Father Haskell - 21 Apr 2008 05:00 GMT
> > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:18:24 -0500, Terry Cross wrote
> > (in message
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Except in your sadistic imagination, chickens do not die on barbecue
> spits.

That *would* be a trick after having their heads chopped
off, wouldn't it?

> How interesting that you Atheists consider the simple truth to
> be "narrow and rigid."

You think there's a chance that as they see the cleaver
come down, they comprehend the immediacy and horror
of their mortality?

Can you prove otherwise?
Libertarius - 25 Apr 2008 23:48 GMT
HOW STUPID!

Chickens are long dead before they get on the barbecue spit! ;-) -- L.
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Mike - 20 Apr 2008 15:53 GMT
> How many of the Celestial Chicken's chickens have given their life so man
> can
> live.  How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live.

You mock because you don't understand the verses in the Bible that say, "He
did for our sin", etc. You fail to understand the meaning of the suffering
and death of Christ. Yet it is so obvious that it is an outrage that it has
not been taught in the past.

Jesus went about doing miracles of love and preaching the truth. He
continued doing so in spite of threats and persecution. He knew He would be
killed if He kept doing these things. But He was determined to continue
doing what's right. So when they finally captured Him, Jesus suffered for
the cause of love. And it proved that He was sincerely devoted to
righteousness. And He proved so worthy of honor that God raised Him from the
dead. And now loving One who was so completely devoted to what is right can
inspire us to love righteousness too and cleanses our hearts from evil
intent.

If this interests you, you can find more at:

http://www.sirus.com/users/mjake/page40.html#proved
J A - 20 Apr 2008 16:22 GMT
>> How many of the Celestial Chicken's chickens have given their life so man
>> can
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> suffering and death of Christ. Yet it is so obvious that it is an outrage
> that it has not been taught in the past.

He's playing on the fact that for thousands of years before (and after)  the
jesus myth, people sacrificed animals to the "gods", then ate the remains in
feasts.

Jesus "sacrificed",,,, shamen priests giving people waffers and grape
juice,,,, you should be able to get the idea.

The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation of
earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think is
describing some unique actual event (it's not).
Mike - 20 Apr 2008 18:25 GMT
> The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation of
> earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think is
> describing some unique actual event (it's not).

But if that were true, then there would be an obvious trail of documentation
showing how the traditions slowly evolved with time and how other myths were
incorporated. No such documentation exists. So there is no support for your
claim. If you're going to support this claim that it is all a collection of
myths, then you need to show motive and opportunity. But the early church
has a well documented history of persecution, which eliminates both motive
to invent fabrications and opportunity.
J A - 20 Apr 2008 18:47 GMT
>> The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation of
>> earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think is
>> describing some unique actual event (it's not).
>>
> But if that were true, then there would be an obvious trail of
> documentation

LOL.   do you think there's documentation on why christmas is on Dec.25?

> showing how the traditions slowly evolved with time and how other myths
> were
> incorporated. No such documentation exists. So there is no support for
> your
> claim.

<snip>

Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E. (Paperback)
by Ramsay MacMullen (Author),

A review:

       39 of 41 people found the following review helpful:
      When Christians do really bad things., September 22, 2002
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     Concise, elegant, massively documented and beautifully endnoted,
Ramsay MacMullen's book is a devastating account of the rise of Christianity
and the destruction of Paganism.

      With 85 pages of notes to 159 pages of text, with widespread use of
primary sources, archeological evidence and the secondary literature,
MacMullen's book is an exhaustive update of Gibbon for the present day. The
book consists of four chapters, those being Christian Persecution, the
losses of the Pagans, the rise of superstition and the assimilation of pagan
elements into Christian practice. I think Stalin would find it grimly
amusing reading, since it suggests that whatever success Christianity
achieved was by fanaticism and violence. We start off with an account of how
Christians systematically suppressed non-Christian works, as well as the
"heretics" amongst themselves. We hear Eusebius, the first great Church
historian, announce that it is not the duty to tell the whole truth but only
what is of profit. Students of the Russian Revolution will remember the
gruesome story of the child who informed on his "kulak" parents, was
murdered by his relatives, and became the hero of a gruesome cult. In this
book we hear how the emperor Justinian was moved to raptures on hearing of
how a Jewish boy convert survived being thrown into a furnace by his father.
Justinian learned how angels prevented the boy from being burned, and then
he had the father crucified.
     Persecution: MacMullen challenges those who argues that Christianity
was an improvement for women and slaves. Women did play some role in leading
Pagan cults, none at all in Christianity, and he tells how while a pagan
governor demanded the compensation for the family of a murdered prostitute,
Saint Jerome supported beheading for extramarital fornication. He discusses
how exorcisms, resurrections, and healings played a greater role in
conversions than sermons or reasoned argument. He discusses the increasingly
bloodthirsty demands of bishops, monks and imperial decrees as well as
pointing out the weaknesses of the bureaucratic machinery.

     Cost to the Persecuted: MacMullen notes how Constantine still claimed
a sort of divine status for himself and his father. He discusses the joyous
pagan festivals, including feasts, dancing, poetry orations and their long
presistence despite the opposition of the bishops (Augustine tried to argue
that giving friends presents was wicked). MacMullen also gives accounts of
pagans who thought idols had actual magical powers. He discusses the
destruction of pagan temples and shrines, as well as the cutting down of
sacred trees.

     Superstition: MacMullen discusses the shifiting attitude from the
rational world view of Pliny, Seneca and Plotinus and the increase in
credulity throughout the third and fourth centuries. MacMullen argues that
this was a result of changes in the elite as more vulgar and less literate
people increased their predominance. Whatever the merits of this thesis,
MacMullen points our the contempt prominent Christians such as Tertullian,
Augustine, Lactantius, Ambrose and John Chrysostom had for ancient
philosophy. They denounced Plato and Aristotle by name, and mocked the idea
of skeptical study and the scientific attitude. Nor did they stop there.
They told stories about appartitions over the battlefield, miraculous cures,
the everpresent existence of demons, people raised to life by Christians,
and dragons turned to dust by the sign of the cross.
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J A - 20 Apr 2008 19:17 GMT
In 312 AD the Roman Emperor Constantine responding to a dream (how Pagan!),
converted from paganism to Christianity.

The world changed forever. All of a sudden it was good to be Christian and
bad to be Pagan. Within a century of Constantine's conversion the Empire
went from roughly ten percent Christian (most of these believing in now
extinct "heretical" Christianities) to mostly Roman Christian

How'd the conversion happen? Partly by giving Christians preference for
government contracts and advancement.

Also by coercion.

Constantine made divination in public matters was punishable by burning to
death.

Pagan sacrifices were banned [341 AD].
Nocturnal pagan worship was forbidden [353 AD].
By mid-century, pagan temples were ordered closed.
In 356 AD worship of non-Christian images became a capital crime.

In 385 Christians tore the great and famous temple at Edessa to the ground,
and the praetorian prefect Cynegius' trip to Egypt was marked by Christians
rampaging around the pagan cities of Syria as vandalizing, looting mobs.

see  http://www.pocm.info/triumph_over_other_Christianities.html
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 00:29 GMT
>>> The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation of
>>> earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think is
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E. (Paperback) by Ramsay MacMullen
> (Author),

Tell us all about it after you read the book, please.

We all use expressions we are familiar with
to express things we are not familiar with.
Christians must have adopted a lot of pagan expressions.
That was mighty generous of them, wouldn't you say?
No wonder they grew in numbers so rapidly.

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J A - 21 Apr 2008 01:16 GMT
>>>> The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation of
>>>> earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think is
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Tell us all about it after you read the book, please.

I read the book years ago, dimwit, you could read it yourself, but I doubt
that you could mentally grasp the truth of it.

Here's a little help for you in understanding your fraudulent cult.

The rising from the dead myth had been around long before jesus in
various Mediterranean religious cults. Similarly, virgin birth was an
unoriginal invention. As one example: Romulus and Remus, the founders
of Rome, were supposedly virgin births with the god Mars being the
father.

<snip>.
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 02:21 GMT
>>>>> The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation
>>>>> of earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> <snip>.

So what?
You are talking about your misunderstanding
of Christianity.

If you don't believe in God,
that means you have no idea what Christianity is.
Why do you keep on talking about something
you have no idea what it is?

What does it mean for you to believe in God?

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Roger Pearse - 21 Apr 2008 18:07 GMT
> "Mike" <m...@no.spam.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> LOL.   do you think there's documentation on why christmas is on Dec.25?

Um, you've just been asked for documentation for your claim.  This
(irrelevant) interjection does you no credit.

> > showing how the traditions slowly evolved with time and how other myths
> > were incorporated. No such documentation exists. So there is no support for
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E. (Paperback)
> by Ramsay MacMullen (Author),

Argument by book, eh?  Let's see what documentation in support of
these silly claims is produced....

> A review:

Oh.  So not even the book; a paste of someone's opinions about it.
Whose, we are not told.

>       Concise, elegant, massively documented ... (flattery snipped)

> I think Stalin would find it grimly amusing reading, since it suggests that
> whatever success Christianity achieved was by fanaticism and violence.

This hate-claim is relevant to the claim above how?

> We start off with an account of how Christians systematically suppressed
> non-Christian works, ...

Since they did not, this isn't a good start.  How could an illegal
organisation do any such thing?

Again, this hate-claim is relevant to the claim above how?

>...as well as the "heretics" amongst themselves. We hear Eusebius, the
> first great Church historian, announce that it is not the duty to tell the
> whole truth but only what is of profit.

He did not; so another falsehood.

Yet again, this hate-claim is relevant to the claim above how?

> In this book we hear how the emperor Justinian ... (hate-libels snipped)

Who lived before AD 425, did he?

Yet, yet again, this hate-claim is relevant to the claim above how?

(etc)

None of which has any relevance.

So, when challenged for documentation, JA responds with a paste of
someone's opinion about some book, none of it relevant?

JA, you have some explaining to do.

All the best,

Roger Pearse
J A - 21 Apr 2008 21:24 GMT
> "Mike" <m...@no.spam.com> wrote in message
> > "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> LOL. do you think there's documentation on why christmas is on Dec.25?

>Um, you've just been asked for documentation for your claim.  This
>(irrelevant) interjection does you no credit.

LOL. They took over the Roman Saturnalia celebrations, you disingenuous
moron.

Here's a little background on it.

Encyclopædia Britannica:
The reason why Christmas came to be celebrated on December 25 remains
uncertain, but most probably the reason is that early Christians wished the
date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the "birthday of the
unconquered sun" (natalis solis invicti); this festival celebrated the
winter solstice, when the days again begin to lengthen and the sun begins to
climb higher in the sky.

The traditional customs connected with Christmas
have accordingly developed from several sources as a result of the
coincidence of the celebration of the birth of Christ with the pagan
agricultural and solar observances at midwinter. In the Roman world the
Saturnalia (December 17) was a time of merrymaking and exchange of gifts.
December 25 was also regarded as the birth date of the Iranian mystery god
Mithra, the Sun of Righteousness. On the Roman New Year (January 1), houses
were decorated with greenery and lights, and gifts were given to children
and the poor. To these observances were added the German and Celtic Yule
rites when the Teutonic tribes penetrated into Gaul, Britain, and central
Europe. Food and good fellowship, the Yule log and Yule cakes, greenery and
fir trees, and gifts and greetings all commemorated different aspects of
this festive season. Fires and lights, symbols of warmth and lasting life,
have always been associated with the winter festival, both pagan and
Christian. Since the European Middle Ages, evergreens, as symbols of
survival, have been associated with Christmas. Christmas is traditionally
regarded as the festival of the family and of children, under the name of
whose patron, Saint Nicholas
<eb://gateway/g?gtype=article_view&doc_name=core/05/71/23_1.html> (q.v.), or
Santa Claus, presents are exchanged in many countries.

> > showing how the traditions slowly evolved with time and how other myths
> > were incorporated. No such documentation exists. So there is no support
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E. (Paperback)
> by Ramsay MacMullen (Author),

>Argument by book, eh?  Let's see what documentation in support of
>these silly claims is produced....

Fool - you jesus supernaturalists argue from a myth book called the bible.
Once again your disingenuous arguments are childish.

"Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E."  by Ramsay MacMullen, is at least a
reliable book with abundant references.

Of course, you could make all this arguing immaterial and win your point
simply by having your supernatural beings appear to mankind, and prove their
unlimited powers.

When will you do that?

<snip further Pearse tripe>
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 23:45 GMT
> Of course, you could make all this arguing immaterial and win your point
> simply by having your supernatural beings appear to mankind, and prove
> their unlimited powers.

God did.
Read all about it in the New Testament.

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Father Haskell - 22 Apr 2008 00:26 GMT
> > Of course, you could make all this arguing immaterial and win your point
> > simply by having your supernatural beings appear to mankind, and prove
> > their unlimited powers.
>
> God did.
> Read all about it in the New Testament.

Single account.
Roger Pearse - 22 Apr 2008 09:20 GMT
> > "Mike" <m...@no.spam.com> wrote in message
> > > "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> LOL. They took over the Roman Saturnalia celebrations, you disingenuous
> moron.

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I smell a troll...

Atheists... no evidence, no manners and no shame.

Roger Pearse
DanielSan - 22 Apr 2008 13:29 GMT
>>> "Mike" <m...@no.spam.com> wrote in message
>>>> "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote
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> Atheists... no evidence,

For Saturnalia?

> no manners

You're posting to alt.atheism.  Where are you manners?

> and no shame.

So, you have no shame?

> Roger Pearse

Oh, right.  I forgot who I was talking to.
J A - 22 Apr 2008 22:58 GMT
On 21 Apr, 21:24, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote:
> "Roger Pearse" <roger.pea...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> LOL. They took over the Roman Saturnalia celebrations, you disingenuous
> moron.

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>I smell a troll...

You smell your own foul odor.

Again:

From Encyclopædia Britannica:

The reason why Christmas came to be celebrated on December 25 remains
uncertain, but most probably the reason is that early Christians wished the
date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the "birthday of the
unconquered sun" (natalis solis invicti); this festival celebrated the
winter solstice, when the days again begin to lengthen and the sun begins to
climb higher in the sky.

The traditional customs connected with Christmas have accordingly developed
from several sources as a result of the coincidence of the celebration of
the birth of Christ with the pagan agricultural and solar observances at
midwinter. In the Roman world the Saturnalia (December 17) was a time of
merrymaking and exchange of gifts. December 25 was also regarded as the
birth date of the Iranian mystery god Mithra, the Sun of Righteousness. On
the Roman New Year (January 1), houses were decorated with greenery and
lights, and gifts were given to children and the poor. To these observances
were added the German and Celtic Yule rites when the Teutonic tribes
penetrated into Gaul, Britain, and central Europe. Food and good fellows