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Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 04:53 GMT Here, Andy, you'll need a map of the Pacific to get yourself to China:
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 08:40 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan
is still...
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forevermore:
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guaranteed:
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May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 08:48 GMT On Apr 12, 3:40 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan So sorry, my bad. Here's the right map:
http://www.oz-central.com/graphic/p_map_01x.jpg
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 08:51 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan
Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 09:12 GMT On Apr 12, 3:51 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan http://apartments-rentals.fabrussia.com/moscow-guide/img-moscow-metro-map/moscow -metro-map.gif
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 09:17 GMT You are...
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Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 09:21 GMT On Apr 12, 4:17 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> You are... > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Deadsatan http://www.visuallee.com/weblog/images/galactic_neighborhood.gif
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 09:23 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan
Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 16:28 GMT On Apr 12, 4:23 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan http://www.gutenberg.org/files/19694/19694-h/images/015.jpg
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 16:33 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet
Father Haskell - 12 Apr 2008 18:11 GMT On Apr 12, 11:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet http://www.odt.org/Pictures/mcarthursmap.jpg
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Apr 2008 18:41 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan
Machete - 16 Apr 2008 04:52 GMT > On Apr 12, 11:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: >> http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet > > http://www.odt.org/Pictures/mcarthursmap.jpg Is this the only navigational help you're going to provide Chung? This is going to be the easiest 15 grand you ever made FH.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Apr 2008 10:46 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets
Father Haskell - 16 Apr 2008 20:51 GMT > > On Apr 12, 11:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Is this the only navigational help you're going to provide Chung? This is > going to be the easiest 15 grand you ever made FH. That and a few helpful tips I learned in the Scouts, such as how moss always grows on the north side of a tree.
Machete - 17 Apr 2008 00:30 GMT >> > On Apr 12, 11:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >> > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > such as how moss always grows on the north side of > a tree. Make sure he knows what the Gulf Stream is and how it works, just a cursory overview (20 seconds or less) will suffice. You might want to clue him on on the likelyhood of giant rogue waves turning his boat into a wooden missile at some point during the journey. Should I provide seatbelts, or would it do more harm than good? Chung's 80 pound pack might cause a problem if he does a Peter Pan over the edge of the boat.
Father Haskell - 17 Apr 2008 03:16 GMT > >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > would it do more harm than good? Chung's 80 pound pack might cause a > problem if he does a Peter Pan over the edge of the boat. It's fair and gentle seas up until the North Sea, presuming he survives the ice packs, which should be calving heavily now that summer is on its way.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Apr 2008 05:01 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/DumbSockPuppets
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Machete - 17 Apr 2008 05:36 GMT >> >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > he survives the ice packs, which should be calving heavily > now that summer is on its way. Well, sounds like you've provided a safe route, Chung should thank you for this encouraging piece of information FH.
Father Haskell - 17 Apr 2008 06:38 GMT > >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Well, sounds like you've provided a safe route, Chung should thank you for > this encouraging piece of information FH. Hmm. Guess what sank on her maiden voyage from Southampton to New York on April 15, 1912 -- anniversary two days ago?
Machete - 17 Apr 2008 07:13 GMT >> >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > Hmm. Guess what sank on her maiden voyage from Southampton to > New York on April 15, 1912 -- anniversary two days ago? Bugger me, iceberg right ahead! Fortunately for Chung, his *ship* will only be able to reach a top speed of 3 knots and this should prevent him from slamming into any bergs capable of sinking the RMS-Wanger. Perhaps I should consider investing in an old outboard motor. My dad has an 1983 Evinrude, 100HP. It could cause the boat to sink even lower into the water but with that amount of HP, Chung's boat could probably reach speeds of 45MPH without much trouble. Again, the size and weight of the boat has to be considered though and with a 300 pound boat ( plenty of holes) a large motor might cause other problems. Oh well, I'll look into the Evinrude. Chung would have to stop off along the way to get extra fuel but that's his problem. Given the weight of the gear, motor and crew, the boat would have the life expectancy of a common housefly, but we can't have Chung taking eight months to reach his destination. Risks must be taken.
Father Haskell - 17 Apr 2008 08:29 GMT > >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > expectancy of a common housefly, but we can't have Chung taking eight months > to reach his destination. Risks must be taken. Indeed, what with the earthquakes off the Oregon coast even as we speak.
Machete - 18 Apr 2008 04:16 GMT >> >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > Indeed, what with the earthquakes off the Oregon coast > even as we speak. Yeah, I don't imagine the Omer-Wanger would fair well against a tsunami of 40 or 50 feet. I still haven't read a thanks for Chung for the 100HP motor, it will make it much easier on him physically and will cut his trip from 8-10 months to perhaps a month, if he makes it out of US waters, err, I mean, if he doesn't run out of gas.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 04:22 GMT > "Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > trip from 8-10 months to perhaps a month, if he makes it out of US > waters, err, I mean, if he doesn't run out of gas. Do you own a gun?
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Machete - 18 Apr 2008 06:39 GMT >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Do you own a gun? There's that verbiage again, please, wipe your a.s before you speak next time.
J666 - 18 Apr 2008 13:06 GMT > There's that verbiage again, please, wipe your a.s before you speak next > time. Wonder if monkcrap has brown eyes which may explain a shitty outlook.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 17:56 GMT >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > There's that verbiage again, please, wipe your a.s before you speak next > time. Just checking whether you are suicidal or not.
Have you read any theology book lately?
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Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 03:07 GMT > >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Have you read any theology book lately? Does the Satanic Bible count?
J666 - 19 Apr 2008 03:21 GMT >> Have you read any theology book lately? > > Does the Satanic Bible count? Remember the Chible, was written using one of the Celestial Chicken's feather as a quill.
The feather is mighter than the sword
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 03:43 GMT >> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Does the Satanic Bible count? No.
Have you read any book lately?
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Machete - 19 Apr 2008 04:03 GMT >>> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Have you read any book lately? Somehow I get the feeling that he's just a bit more schooled than you.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 04:35 GMT >>>> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Somehow I get the feeling that he's just a bit more schooled than you. I know even you don't trust your judgment. What kind of heart problem do you have?
BTW I would love to remove SMC from the header; but somehow that drives J666 crazy.
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Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 07:42 GMT > >> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > No. Why not?
> Have you read any book lately? You'd read the Satanic Bible, except being forced to think would kill you.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 16:40 GMT >> >> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > You'd read the Satanic Bible, except being forced to think would kill > you. Try to read some philosophy books.
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Machete - 19 Apr 2008 03:51 GMT >> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Does the Satanic Bible count? Sure but what about The Book of the Law?
Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 07:49 GMT > >> >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Sure but what about The Book of the Law? Did you burn your copy after reading it?
If you didn't, you're f.cked.
Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 03:07 GMT > > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Do you own a gun? What, are you proposing he KILL Chung?
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 03:42 GMT >> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > What, are you proposing he KILL Chung? No. I'm just wondering whether he is suicidal.
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Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 07:51 GMT > >> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > No. > I'm just wondering whether he is suicidal. No one's falling for that transparent lie.
Monkfish wants to kill you, Andy. Run!
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 16:42 GMT >> >> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Monkfish wants to kill you, Andy. Run! Have you ever killed anyone?
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Machete - 19 Apr 2008 04:02 GMT >> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > What, are you proposing he KILL Chung? I think he's actually starting to foam at the mouth now, I'm having a hard time trying to figure out who's more in need of psychiatric help, fish or chung. Evidently, he deduced that I was suicidal because I didn't like Chung. I'm starting to wonder if Monkeybutt has been absuing Datura.
As for Chung, he is certainly in no danger from anyone in this group. Andy already had his near death experience when he was beaten up by a 13 year old while trying to preach at a Bar Mitzvah. He said is was the parking police at some college but we all know better.
Chung's only concern should be his 14,000 mile trip and keeping the large plastic chicken attached to his boat while he cruises the Atlantic at speeds up to 40 knots.
By the way FH, any idea where I could get some C-Rations left over from Korea or Nam? These might come in handy for Chung, I suspect they have a shelf life of about 150 years.
Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 07:59 GMT > >> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Korea or Nam? These might come in handy for Chung, I suspect they have a > shelf life of about 150 years. Will pet food do? Dog biscuits should substitute well for 60 year old survival biscuits. Neither one apparently has any actual taste.
How about some made-in-China Greenies from Sam's Club to keep his teeth clean and his breath chlorophyll fresh?
Speaking of peridontal issues, he'll need plenty of fresh fruit to keep his teeth from falling out. Captain Bligh kept his crew from the ravages of scurvy by stocking up on bread fruit. Certainly there'll be ample breadfruit trees along his route?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 09:23 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan
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J666 - 19 Apr 2008 13:21 GMT > Speaking of peridontal issues Preparation H will work for him.
Machete - 19 Apr 2008 14:29 GMT >> Speaking of peridontal issues > > Preparation H will work for him. I can't allow that, rubbing alcohol will take down the swelling. Might be a bit painful but what is pain to a man who fasted for 387 days!
Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 20:43 GMT > > On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 1:59:28 -0500, Father Haskell wrote > > (in message [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I can't allow that, rubbing alcohol will take down the swelling. Might be a > bit painful but what is pain to a man who fasted for 387 days! How about lemon juice? He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 20:52 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Foolishsatan
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Father Haskell - 19 Apr 2008 20:56 GMT On Apr 19, 3:52 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Foolishsatan > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthCutssatan Try to help.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 21:03 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Worthlesssatan
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J666 - 19 Apr 2008 22:18 GMT > How about lemon juice? He could shove a > whole lemon up his butt, and get his daily > dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the > same time. Doing that will make his lips pucker up
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2008 22:56 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan
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Machete - 20 Apr 2008 01:09 GMT >> How about lemon juice? He could shove a >> whole lemon up his butt, and get his daily >> dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the >> same time. > > Doing that will make his lips pucker up Well, at least that would shut him up so his mate doesn't have to listen to him.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 01:14 GMT >>> How about lemon juice? He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and >>> get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Well, at least that would shut him up so his mate doesn't have to listen > to him. Pitiful.
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Father Haskell - 20 Apr 2008 02:28 GMT > >>> How about lemon juice? He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and > >>> get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Pitiful. Think of poor Mr. Shabazz's happiness for once. He so wanted a teak bar on that luxury appointed yacht that he was going to follow Chung with.
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 02:54 GMT >>>>> How about lemon juice? He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and >>>>> get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > He so wanted a teak bar on that luxury appointed > yacht that he was going to follow Chung with. He doth protest too mucn.
Maybe he wants to go as Chung's mate. Maybe he is jealous of Mr. Shabazz
Do they need an anchor or fish bait for trolling.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 03:41 GMT >>>>>> How about lemon juice? He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, >>>>>> and get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Do they need an anchor or fish bait for trolling. Still trolling? Final warning.
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Machete - 20 Apr 2008 04:04 GMT >> >>> How about lemon juice? He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and >> >>> get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > He so wanted a teak bar on that luxury appointed > yacht that he was going to follow Chung with. Yes but keep in mind that Mr. Shabbaz just got released from prison for strong armed robery, he's just done some hard time. Being out on the open sea with Chung might give him an opportunity to take some aggresion out, oops, I mean, get some fresh air and enjoy the luxery cruiser complete with 100HP motor. Plus, he's getting paid 40,000 dollars (from Chung.) When Chung arrives overseas (if) he'll certainly need some protection as his mouth, doubtless, will get him into trouble. Shabbaz will require additional protection money for each individual incident (1,000 a piece.) He could earn over 75,000 dollars on this trip and get his pimp and drug business going again! It may sound like a bum deal for Shabbaz, but he's actually excited about it!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 04:16 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan
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guardian Snow - 20 Apr 2008 04:19 GMT > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthStabssatan CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA 5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B | MABLETON, GA 30126 (404) 699-2780
Notice that Chung doesn’t address a single issue he’s been called up on. Change the titles on threads he post, he’s a control freak and hates it.
Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempting to sell for half a million dollars to Emory University. He is spamming us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until we all complain about his tactics!
Anorexia is a serious medical condition. Your calls (Mr. Chung) for people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you to stop this immediately.
www.anad.org/
and
www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/
If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung. If he persist in this continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession. It is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the condition of the people you are delivering the message to.
See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state. Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology” in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the medical community.
Dr. Yamantaka Says, He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum community standards.
Mike Mordant says: Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices soon. He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000 and $280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain. It may get treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains lawful steward."
To that Mr. Chung’s web site states:
“after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).”
In other words, Mr. Chung is spamming us on usenet to create traffic at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name. There is very little content on the site and nothing of any medical value.
So, don’t visit the site. He’s just trying to drive up traffic numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of stupid spams. They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and everything to do with his desire to derive profits.
Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
> Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last > year ? No. The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the fellowship training in cardiology.
> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine. The cardiologist > who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both > internal and cardiovascular medicine. That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal medicine.
Dr. Yamantaka also stated:
Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to answer these questions honestly.
This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your mental illness and personality disorder.
Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified Internist. I am.
"Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing VAT. If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support your absurd claims, then stop. His license is already under investigation. Anyone wishing to add his/ her complaints about Chung's unprofessional behavior and absurd, nonstandard medical advice can also contact the Board. It can be done anonymously. http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/02/csbme/home/0,2458,26729866,00.html
From the website of the Georgia Medical Board:
What is unprofessional conduct?
According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct includes "any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal standards of acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also include, but not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs, treatment or diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the patient as determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical care."
In general, examples of unprofessional conduct include, but are not limited to, physical abuse of a patient, inadequate record keeping, not recognizing or acting upon common symptoms, prescribing drugs in excessive amounts or without legitimate reason, personal impairment (mental or physical) that hinders safely practicing within the scope of one's license or certificate, performing duties beyond the scope of one's license or certificate and dishonesty. The Investigations and Discipline rules of the Georgia Medical Board, (Rule 360-3.02 and 360-3-.04), also provide additional examples of unprofessional conduct for which a licensee may be disciplined.
File a Complaint Composite State Board of Medical Examiners Enforcement Unit 2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor Atlanta, Georgia 30303 PH: (404) 657-6487 FX: (404) 656-9723 http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/00/article/0,2086,26729866_27513604_27080031,00.html
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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 06:10 GMT How many of the Celestial Chicken's chickens have given their life so man can live. How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live.
Hail Maggie, Full of Chickenfeed, The Celestial Chicken is with thee. Blessed art thou among hens, and blessed is the fruit of thy egg, Chickie. Holy Maggie, Mother of Celestial Chicken, pray for us friers now, and at the hour of our deep frying
Terry Cross - 20 Apr 2008 06:31 GMT > Re: How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live? None. A person would barbecue a live chicken only for love of cruelty, not for food.
Sometimes you make really dumb remarks. In fact, most of the time your remarks are really dumb.
TCross
Machete - 20 Apr 2008 13:53 GMT >> Re: How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > TCross That you Fish?
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 16:02 GMT >> Re: How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > TCross If you don't get it, I will not try to explain it to you.
Terry Cross - 20 Apr 2008 17:18 GMT > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 0:31:44 -0500, Terry Cross wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > If you don't get it, I will not try to explain it to you. I get the part you did not intend - you flashing your stupidity to the world.
TCross
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 18:23 GMT > I get the part you did not intend - you flashing your stupidity to the > world. > > TCross Get a life and open up your narrow rigid mind - your comment says far more about you. I'll leave it to your response for the last word.
Terry Cross - 20 Apr 2008 18:43 GMT > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:18:24 -0500, Terry Cross wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Get a life and open up your narrow rigid mind - your comment says far more > about you. I'll leave it to your response for the last word. Except in your sadistic imagination, chickens do not die on barbecue spits. How interesting that you Atheists consider the simple truth to be "narrow and rigid."
TCross
Phobos - 20 Apr 2008 19:31 GMT >> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:18:24 -0500, Terry Cross wrote >> (in message [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > TCross Carrying an analogy to a somewhat exaggerated and even intentionally absurd end, is a way to make a point.
You obviously do not agree and seem overly sensitive to this analogy.
It seems to me that the problem with many believers in God (the God of Abraham) is that they (Jews, Christians and Muslims) spend more time promoting, interpreting and defending their scriptures (Old Testament, New Testament and Koran) and rituals and attacking the other's scriptures and rituals rather than trying to live according to their beliefs.
It does seem NOT to be universal agreement on just which, if any of these, are the Right Way as each equally claims they are right and others are wrong.
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 20:33 GMT > Carrying an analogy to a somewhat exaggerated and even intentionally absurd > end, is a way to make a point. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > It does seem NOT to be universal agreement on just which, if any of these, > are the Right Way as each equally claims they are right and others are wrong. It does seem that many people of faith are more concerned with scriptures/rituals and what others think and say than with God Himself.
It does seem unusual that some who believe with their "heart and soul" about God are so bothered by comments from those whom they view as "idiots." You have to wonder just how strongly they believe themselves to be right if comments from an "idiot" are of a concern. Could it be that those other words may sound reasonable and not idiotic to others and so that is the reason for the comments.
As is said, many times a person's pejorative words referring to others acutally say far more about him/herself than the other person.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 21:08 GMT satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
"How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live." -- satan.
> > Carrying an analogy to a somewhat exaggerated and even intentionally absurd > > end, is a way to make a point. Your intention here is to mock the death of LORD Jesus Christ.
This has backfired because HE is risen and now sits at the right hand of GOD the Father.
Therefore, you, the mocker, is seen by all to be:
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forevermore:
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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 21:15 GMT > Your intention here is to mock the death of LORD Jesus Christ. > > This has backfired because HE is risen and now sits at the right hand > of GOD the Father. Your intention here is to mock the death of Celestial Chickeen Chickie.
This has backfired because Chickie is risen and now sits at the right hand of the Celestial Chicken the Father.
http://CelestialChicken.org/Truth
Laus Pollo !!!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 21:18 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan
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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 21:28 GMT > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatsatan http://CelestialChicken.org/ImbecileHadesFox
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2008 21:30 GMT > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan > > > > <>< > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatsatan J666 - 20 Apr 2008 21:38 GMT > http://CelestialChicken.org/ImbecileHadesFox > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://CelestialChicken.org/TruthBeatHadesFox Laus Pollo
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 00:07 GMT >>>> I get the part you did not intend - you flashing your stupidity to >>>> the world. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > these, are the Right Way as each equally claims they are right and > others are wrong. You are making a baseless allegation. So far as I can tell, most Christians are just trying to live their lives as best as they can according to their faith. They even study theology to make sure they do so correctly.
Are you trying to live your life as best as you can? If so, according to what?
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Terry Cross - 21 Apr 2008 04:26 GMT > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:43:20 -0500, Terry Cross wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Carrying an analogy to a somewhat exaggerated and even intentionally absurd > end, is a way to make a point. If you shoot at a basket and miss, you miss and you don't get the point. Please don't ask the opposition to retrieve the rebound and correct the error. And no one gets points for "trying."
> You obviously do not agree and seem overly sensitive to this analogy. I will be willing to laugh about the Crucifixion with the first Jew who considers the Holocaust a joke.
> It seems to me that the problem with many believers in God (the God of > Abraham) is that they (Jews, Christians and Muslims) spend more time > promoting, interpreting and defending their scriptures (Old Testament, New > Testament and Koran) and rituals and attacking the other's scriptures and > rituals rather than trying to live according to their beliefs. Those who live by their beliefs in the Old Testament (Torah, Tanakh) are savages.
> It does seem NOT to be universal agreement on just which, if any of these, > are the Right Way as each equally claims they are right and others are wrong. Which scripture endorses sexual mutilation of children? Which scripture endorses extermination or enslavement of non-believers? Which scripture assures the believers that God curses all non- believers? Which document endorses racism, sexism, and public stonings? Which document pretends to absolve sin byu slaughtering animals and sprinkling the blood on the penitents?
Two scriptures uphold morality and strive for a better world. One would return the world to a craven cult living in terror of a blood- crazed hereditary priesthood. Can you tell which is which?
TCross
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 21:10 GMT Next Sunday in Mableton Georgia at 5701 Mableton Parkway 2 B there will be a barbecue chicken dinner and prayer meeting and VAT screening to raise money for Dr. Chung's upcoming ocean voyage to make the world safe from bird flu.
For details go to:
http://heartmephd.com/Chicken_Prayer_VATScreening
We are thanfkful to all the chickens who are willing to give their life for this noble cause.
Laus Pollo
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Father Haskell - 21 Apr 2008 05:00 GMT > > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:18:24 -0500, Terry Cross wrote > > (in message [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Except in your sadistic imagination, chickens do not die on barbecue > spits. That *would* be a trick after having their heads chopped off, wouldn't it?
> How interesting that you Atheists consider the simple truth to > be "narrow and rigid." You think there's a chance that as they see the cleaver come down, they comprehend the immediacy and horror of their mortality?
Can you prove otherwise?
Libertarius - 25 Apr 2008 23:48 GMT HOW STUPID!
Chickens are long dead before they get on the barbecue spit! ;-) -- L. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Mike - 20 Apr 2008 15:53 GMT > How many of the Celestial Chicken's chickens have given their life so man > can > live. How many chickens have died on a barbecue spit so that we can live. You mock because you don't understand the verses in the Bible that say, "He did for our sin", etc. You fail to understand the meaning of the suffering and death of Christ. Yet it is so obvious that it is an outrage that it has not been taught in the past.
Jesus went about doing miracles of love and preaching the truth. He continued doing so in spite of threats and persecution. He knew He would be killed if He kept doing these things. But He was determined to continue doing what's right. So when they finally captured Him, Jesus suffered for the cause of love. And it proved that He was sincerely devoted to righteousness. And He proved so worthy of honor that God raised Him from the dead. And now loving One who was so completely devoted to what is right can inspire us to love righteousness too and cleanses our hearts from evil intent.
If this interests you, you can find more at:
http://www.sirus.com/users/mjake/page40.html#proved
J A - 20 Apr 2008 16:22 GMT >> How many of the Celestial Chicken's chickens have given their life so man >> can [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > suffering and death of Christ. Yet it is so obvious that it is an outrage > that it has not been taught in the past. He's playing on the fact that for thousands of years before (and after) the jesus myth, people sacrificed animals to the "gods", then ate the remains in feasts.
Jesus "sacrificed",,,, shamen priests giving people waffers and grape juice,,,, you should be able to get the idea.
The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation of earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think is describing some unique actual event (it's not).
Mike - 20 Apr 2008 18:25 GMT > The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation of > earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think is > describing some unique actual event (it's not). But if that were true, then there would be an obvious trail of documentation showing how the traditions slowly evolved with time and how other myths were incorporated. No such documentation exists. So there is no support for your claim. If you're going to support this claim that it is all a collection of myths, then you need to show motive and opportunity. But the early church has a well documented history of persecution, which eliminates both motive to invent fabrications and opportunity.
J A - 20 Apr 2008 18:47 GMT >> The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation of >> earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think is >> describing some unique actual event (it's not). >> > But if that were true, then there would be an obvious trail of > documentation LOL. do you think there's documentation on why christmas is on Dec.25?
> showing how the traditions slowly evolved with time and how other myths > were > incorporated. No such documentation exists. So there is no support for > your > claim. <snip>
Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E. (Paperback) by Ramsay MacMullen (Author),
A review:
39 of 41 people found the following review helpful: When Christians do really bad things., September 22, 2002 By pnotley@hotmail.com (Edmonton, Alberta Canada) - See all my reviews
Concise, elegant, massively documented and beautifully endnoted, Ramsay MacMullen's book is a devastating account of the rise of Christianity and the destruction of Paganism.
With 85 pages of notes to 159 pages of text, with widespread use of primary sources, archeological evidence and the secondary literature, MacMullen's book is an exhaustive update of Gibbon for the present day. The book consists of four chapters, those being Christian Persecution, the losses of the Pagans, the rise of superstition and the assimilation of pagan elements into Christian practice. I think Stalin would find it grimly amusing reading, since it suggests that whatever success Christianity achieved was by fanaticism and violence. We start off with an account of how Christians systematically suppressed non-Christian works, as well as the "heretics" amongst themselves. We hear Eusebius, the first great Church historian, announce that it is not the duty to tell the whole truth but only what is of profit. Students of the Russian Revolution will remember the gruesome story of the child who informed on his "kulak" parents, was murdered by his relatives, and became the hero of a gruesome cult. In this book we hear how the emperor Justinian was moved to raptures on hearing of how a Jewish boy convert survived being thrown into a furnace by his father. Justinian learned how angels prevented the boy from being burned, and then he had the father crucified. Persecution: MacMullen challenges those who argues that Christianity was an improvement for women and slaves. Women did play some role in leading Pagan cults, none at all in Christianity, and he tells how while a pagan governor demanded the compensation for the family of a murdered prostitute, Saint Jerome supported beheading for extramarital fornication. He discusses how exorcisms, resurrections, and healings played a greater role in conversions than sermons or reasoned argument. He discusses the increasingly bloodthirsty demands of bishops, monks and imperial decrees as well as pointing out the weaknesses of the bureaucratic machinery.
Cost to the Persecuted: MacMullen notes how Constantine still claimed a sort of divine status for himself and his father. He discusses the joyous pagan festivals, including feasts, dancing, poetry orations and their long presistence despite the opposition of the bishops (Augustine tried to argue that giving friends presents was wicked). MacMullen also gives accounts of pagans who thought idols had actual magical powers. He discusses the destruction of pagan temples and shrines, as well as the cutting down of sacred trees.
Superstition: MacMullen discusses the shifiting attitude from the rational world view of Pliny, Seneca and Plotinus and the increase in credulity throughout the third and fourth centuries. MacMullen argues that this was a result of changes in the elite as more vulgar and less literate people increased their predominance. Whatever the merits of this thesis, MacMullen points our the contempt prominent Christians such as Tertullian, Augustine, Lactantius, Ambrose and John Chrysostom had for ancient philosophy. They denounced Plato and Aristotle by name, and mocked the idea of skeptical study and the scientific attitude. Nor did they stop there. They told stories about appartitions over the battlefield, miraculous cures, the everpresent existence of demons, people raised to life by Christians, and dragons turned to dust by the sign of the cross.
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J A - 20 Apr 2008 19:17 GMT In 312 AD the Roman Emperor Constantine responding to a dream (how Pagan!), converted from paganism to Christianity.
The world changed forever. All of a sudden it was good to be Christian and bad to be Pagan. Within a century of Constantine's conversion the Empire went from roughly ten percent Christian (most of these believing in now extinct "heretical" Christianities) to mostly Roman Christian
How'd the conversion happen? Partly by giving Christians preference for government contracts and advancement.
Also by coercion.
Constantine made divination in public matters was punishable by burning to death.
Pagan sacrifices were banned [341 AD]. Nocturnal pagan worship was forbidden [353 AD]. By mid-century, pagan temples were ordered closed. In 356 AD worship of non-Christian images became a capital crime.
In 385 Christians tore the great and famous temple at Edessa to the ground, and the praetorian prefect Cynegius' trip to Egypt was marked by Christians rampaging around the pagan cities of Syria as vandalizing, looting mobs.
see http://www.pocm.info/triumph_over_other_Christianities.html
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 00:29 GMT >>> The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation of >>> earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think is [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E. (Paperback) by Ramsay MacMullen > (Author), Tell us all about it after you read the book, please.
We all use expressions we are familiar with to express things we are not familiar with. Christians must have adopted a lot of pagan expressions. That was mighty generous of them, wouldn't you say? No wonder they grew in numbers so rapidly.
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J A - 21 Apr 2008 01:16 GMT >>>> The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation of >>>> earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think is [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Tell us all about it after you read the book, please. I read the book years ago, dimwit, you could read it yourself, but I doubt that you could mentally grasp the truth of it.
Here's a little help for you in understanding your fraudulent cult.
The rising from the dead myth had been around long before jesus in various Mediterranean religious cults. Similarly, virgin birth was an unoriginal invention. As one example: Romulus and Remus, the founders of Rome, were supposedly virgin births with the god Mars being the father.
<snip>.
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 02:21 GMT >>>>> The jesus myth that we were all raised with, is just a compilation >>>>> of earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > <snip>. So what? You are talking about your misunderstanding of Christianity.
If you don't believe in God, that means you have no idea what Christianity is. Why do you keep on talking about something you have no idea what it is?
What does it mean for you to believe in God?
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Roger Pearse - 21 Apr 2008 18:07 GMT > "Mike" <m...@no.spam.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > LOL. do you think there's documentation on why christmas is on Dec.25? Um, you've just been asked for documentation for your claim. This (irrelevant) interjection does you no credit.
> > showing how the traditions slowly evolved with time and how other myths > > were incorporated. No such documentation exists. So there is no support for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E. (Paperback) > by Ramsay MacMullen (Author), Argument by book, eh? Let's see what documentation in support of these silly claims is produced....
> A review: Oh. So not even the book; a paste of someone's opinions about it. Whose, we are not told.
> Concise, elegant, massively documented ... (flattery snipped)
> I think Stalin would find it grimly amusing reading, since it suggests that > whatever success Christianity achieved was by fanaticism and violence. This hate-claim is relevant to the claim above how?
> We start off with an account of how Christians systematically suppressed > non-Christian works, ... Since they did not, this isn't a good start. How could an illegal organisation do any such thing?
Again, this hate-claim is relevant to the claim above how?
>...as well as the "heretics" amongst themselves. We hear Eusebius, the > first great Church historian, announce that it is not the duty to tell the > whole truth but only what is of profit. He did not; so another falsehood.
Yet again, this hate-claim is relevant to the claim above how?
> In this book we hear how the emperor Justinian ... (hate-libels snipped) Who lived before AD 425, did he?
Yet, yet again, this hate-claim is relevant to the claim above how?
(etc)
None of which has any relevance.
So, when challenged for documentation, JA responds with a paste of someone's opinion about some book, none of it relevant?
JA, you have some explaining to do.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
J A - 21 Apr 2008 21:24 GMT > "Mike" <m...@no.spam.com> wrote in message > > "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > LOL. do you think there's documentation on why christmas is on Dec.25?
>Um, you've just been asked for documentation for your claim. This >(irrelevant) interjection does you no credit. LOL. They took over the Roman Saturnalia celebrations, you disingenuous moron.
Here's a little background on it.
Encyclopædia Britannica: The reason why Christmas came to be celebrated on December 25 remains uncertain, but most probably the reason is that early Christians wished the date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the "birthday of the unconquered sun" (natalis solis invicti); this festival celebrated the winter solstice, when the days again begin to lengthen and the sun begins to climb higher in the sky.
The traditional customs connected with Christmas have accordingly developed from several sources as a result of the coincidence of the celebration of the birth of Christ with the pagan agricultural and solar observances at midwinter. In the Roman world the Saturnalia (December 17) was a time of merrymaking and exchange of gifts. December 25 was also regarded as the birth date of the Iranian mystery god Mithra, the Sun of Righteousness. On the Roman New Year (January 1), houses were decorated with greenery and lights, and gifts were given to children and the poor. To these observances were added the German and Celtic Yule rites when the Teutonic tribes penetrated into Gaul, Britain, and central Europe. Food and good fellowship, the Yule log and Yule cakes, greenery and fir trees, and gifts and greetings all commemorated different aspects of this festive season. Fires and lights, symbols of warmth and lasting life, have always been associated with the winter festival, both pagan and Christian. Since the European Middle Ages, evergreens, as symbols of survival, have been associated with Christmas. Christmas is traditionally regarded as the festival of the family and of children, under the name of whose patron, Saint Nicholas <eb://gateway/g?gtype=article_view&doc_name=core/05/71/23_1.html> (q.v.), or Santa Claus, presents are exchanged in many countries.
> > showing how the traditions slowly evolved with time and how other myths > > were incorporated. No such documentation exists. So there is no support [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E. (Paperback) > by Ramsay MacMullen (Author),
>Argument by book, eh? Let's see what documentation in support of >these silly claims is produced.... Fool - you jesus supernaturalists argue from a myth book called the bible. Once again your disingenuous arguments are childish.
"Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E." by Ramsay MacMullen, is at least a reliable book with abundant references.
Of course, you could make all this arguing immaterial and win your point simply by having your supernatural beings appear to mankind, and prove their unlimited powers.
When will you do that?
<snip further Pearse tripe>
monkfish - 21 Apr 2008 23:45 GMT > Of course, you could make all this arguing immaterial and win your point > simply by having your supernatural beings appear to mankind, and prove > their unlimited powers. God did. Read all about it in the New Testament.
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Father Haskell - 22 Apr 2008 00:26 GMT > > Of course, you could make all this arguing immaterial and win your point > > simply by having your supernatural beings appear to mankind, and prove > > their unlimited powers. > > God did. > Read all about it in the New Testament. Single account.
Roger Pearse - 22 Apr 2008 09:20 GMT > > "Mike" <m...@no.spam.com> wrote in message > > > "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > LOL. They took over the Roman Saturnalia celebrations, you disingenuous > moron. (Irrelevant paste snipped)
I smell a troll...
Atheists... no evidence, no manners and no shame.
Roger Pearse
DanielSan - 22 Apr 2008 13:29 GMT >>> "Mike" <m...@no.spam.com> wrote in message >>>> "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Atheists... no evidence, For Saturnalia?
> no manners You're posting to alt.atheism. Where are you manners?
> and no shame. So, you have no shame?
> Roger Pearse Oh, right. I forgot who I was talking to.
J A - 22 Apr 2008 22:58 GMT On 21 Apr, 21:24, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote:
> "Roger Pearse" <roger.pea...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > LOL. They took over the Roman Saturnalia celebrations, you disingenuous > moron. (Irrelevant paste snipped)
>I smell a troll... You smell your own foul odor.
Again:
From Encyclopædia Britannica:
The reason why Christmas came to be celebrated on December 25 remains uncertain, but most probably the reason is that early Christians wished the date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the "birthday of the unconquered sun" (natalis solis invicti); this festival celebrated the winter solstice, when the days again begin to lengthen and the sun begins to climb higher in the sky.
The traditional customs connected with Christmas have accordingly developed from several sources as a result of the coincidence of the celebration of the birth of Christ with the pagan agricultural and solar observances at midwinter. In the Roman world the Saturnalia (December 17) was a time of merrymaking and exchange of gifts. December 25 was also regarded as the birth date of the Iranian mystery god Mithra, the Sun of Righteousness. On the Roman New Year (January 1), houses were decorated with greenery and lights, and gifts were given to children and the poor. To these observances were added the German and Celtic Yule rites when the Teutonic tribes penetrated into Gaul, Britain, and central Europe. Food and good fellowship, the Yule log and Yule cakes, greenery and fir trees, and gifts and greetings all commemorated different aspects of this festive season. Fires and lights, symbols of warmth and lasting life, have always been associated with the winter festival, both pagan and Christian. Since the European Middle Ages, evergreens, as symbols of survival, have been associated with Christmas. Christmas is traditionally regarded as the festival of the family and of children, under the name of whose patron, Saint Nicholas <eb://gateway/g?gtype=article_view&doc_name=core/05/71/23_1.html> (q.v.), or Santa Claus, presents are exchanged in many countries.
For those wanting a full academic treatment on how christianity took over existing pagan myths and celebrations see:
Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E. by Ramsay MacMullen , Yale University Press
Concise, elegant, massively documented and beautifully endnoted, Ramsay MacMullen's book is a devastating account of the rise of Christianity and the destruction of Paganism.
With 85 pages of notes to 159 pages of text, with widespread use of primary sources, archeological evidence and the secondary literature, MacMullen's book is an exhaustive update of Gibbon for the present day. The book consists of four chapters, those being Christian Persecution, the losses of the Pagans, the rise of superstition and the assimilation of pagan elements into Christian practice. I think Stalin would find it grimly amusing reading, since it suggests that whatever success Christianity achieved was by fanaticism and violence. We start off with an account of how Christians systematically suppressed non-Christian works, as well as the "heretics" amongst themselves. We hear Eusebius, the first great Church historian, announce that it is not the duty to tell the whole truth but only what is of profit. Students of the Russian Revolution will remember the gruesome story of the child who informed on his "kulak" parents, was murdered by his relatives, and became the hero of a gruesome cult. In this book we hear how the emperor Justinian was moved to raptures on hearing of how a Jewish boy convert survived being thrown into a furnace by his father. Justinian learned how angels prevented the boy from being burned, and then he had the father crucified. Persecution: MacMullen challenges those who argues that Christianity was an improvement for women and slaves. Women did play some role in leading Pagan cults, none at all in Christianity, and he tells how while a pagan governor demanded the compensation for the family of a murdered prostitute, Saint Jerome supported beheading for extramarital fornication. He discusses how exorcisms, resurrections, and healings played a greater role in conversions than sermons or reasoned argument. He discusses the increasingly bloodthirsty demands of bishops, monks and imperial decrees as well as pointing out the weaknesses of the bureaucratic machinery.
Cost to the Persecuted: MacMullen notes how Constantine still claimed a sort of divine status for himself and his father. He discusses the joyous pagan festivals, including feasts, dancing, poetry orations and their long presistence despite the opposition of the bishops (Augustine tried to argue that giving friends presents was wicked). MacMullen also gives accounts of pagans who thought idols had actual magical powers. He discusses the destruction of pagan temples and shrines, as well as the cutting down of sacred trees.
Superstition: MacMullen discusses the shifiting attitude from the rational world view of Pliny, Seneca and Plotinus and the increase in credulity throughout the third and fourth centuries. MacMullen argues that this was a result of changes in the elite as more vulgar and less literate people increased their predominance. Whatever the merits of this thesis, MacMullen points our the contempt prominent Christians such as Tertullian, Augustine, Lactantius, Ambrose and John Chrysostom had for ancient philosophy. They denounced Plato and Aristotle by name, and mocked the idea of skeptical study and the scientific attitude. Nor did they stop there. They told stories about appartitions over the battlefield, miraculous cures, the everpresent existence of demons, people raised to life by Christians, and dragons turned to dust by the sign of the cross.
monkfish - 23 Apr 2008 00:03 GMT > Again: > > From Encyclopædia Britannica: Theology is rather like mathematics; you have to do your own homework to understand it.
I gather you don't believe in God; and you think humans created gods for some reason. How about science?
Did we create science?
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Trevor Cleaver - 23 Apr 2008 00:48 GMT >> Again: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Did we create science? Science evolved and so did the concept of one god.
J666 - 23 Apr 2008 01:08 GMT > Science evolved and so did the concept of one god. And science builds on a solid foundation of what was known before.
Science has explained many things once thought due to God(s) and may very well contine to explain more and more - maybe even how it all started.
monkfish - 23 Apr 2008 01:29 GMT >>> Again: >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> > Science evolved and so did the concept of one god. That sounds about right.
In that case, what does it mean for someone to believe that God created everything?
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Roger Pearse - 25 Apr 2008 22:47 GMT > On 21 Apr, 21:24, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Again: (troll repost snipped)
Funny how all the trolls are atheists.
Ciao, loser.
Roger Pearse
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 22:56 GMT > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Funny how all the trolls are atheists. You have been having a written discourse with neither but rather with satan's sockpuppets (corporeal demons):
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J A - 25 Apr 2008 23:15 GMT >> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: >> > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > You have been having a written discourse with neither but rather with > satan's sockpuppets (corporeal demons): Once again you show what an empty vessel you are.
From Encyclopædia Britannica:
The reason why Christmas came to be celebrated on December 25 remains uncertain, but most probably the reason is that early Christians wished the date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the "birthday of the unconquered sun" (natalis solis invicti); this festival celebrated the winter solstice, when the days again begin to lengthen and the sun begins to climb higher in the sky.
The traditional customs connected with Christmas have accordingly developed from several sources as a result of the coincidence of the celebration of the birth of Christ with the pagan agricultural and solar observances at midwinter. In the Roman world the Saturnalia (December 17) was a time of merrymaking and exchange of gifts. December 25 was also regarded as the birth date of the Iranian mystery god Mithra, the Sun of Righteousness. On the Roman New Year (January 1), houses were decorated with greenery and lights, and gifts were given to children and the poor. To these observances were added the German and Celtic Yule rites when the Teutonic tribes penetrated into Gaul, Britain, and central Europe. Food and good fellowship, the Yule log and Yule cakes, greenery and fir trees, and gifts and greetings all commemorated different aspects of this festive season. Fires and lights, symbols of warmth and lasting life, have always been associated with the winter festival, both pagan and Christian. Since the European Middle Ages, evergreens, as symbols of survival, have been associated with Christmas. Christmas is traditionally regarded as the festival of the family and of children, under the name of whose patron, Saint Nicholas <eb://gateway/g?gtype=article_view&doc_name=core/05/71/23_1.html> (q.v.), or Santa Claus, presents are exchanged in many countries.
For those wanting a full academic treatment on how christianity took over existing pagan myths and celebrations see:
Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E. by Ramsay MacMullen , Yale University Press
Concise, elegant, massively documented and beautifully endnoted, Ramsay MacMullen's book is a devastating account of the rise of Christianity and the destruction of Paganism.
With 85 pages of notes to 159 pages of text, with widespread use of primary sources, archeological evidence and the secondary literature, MacMullen's book is an exhaustive update of Gibbon for the present day. The book consists of four chapters, those being Christian Persecution, the losses of the Pagans, the rise of superstition and the assimilation of pagan elements into Christian practice. I think Stalin would find it grimly amusing reading, since it suggests that whatever success Christianity achieved was by fanaticism and violence. We start off with an account of how Christians systematically suppressed non-Christian works, as well as the "heretics" amongst themselves. We hear Eusebius, the first great Church historian, announce that it is not the duty to tell the whole truth but only what is of profit. Students of the Russian Revolution will remember the gruesome story of the child who informed on his "kulak" parents, was murdered by his relatives, and became the hero of a gruesome cult. In this book we hear how the emperor Justinian was moved to raptures on hearing of how a Jewish boy convert survived being thrown into a furnace by his father. Justinian learned how angels prevented the boy from being burned, and then he had the father crucified. Persecution: MacMullen challenges those who argues that Christianity was an improvement for women and slaves. Women did play some role in leading Pagan cults, none at all in Christianity, and he tells how while a pagan governor demanded the compensation for the family of a murdered prostitute, Saint Jerome supported beheading for extramarital fornication. He discusses how exorcisms, resurrections, and healings played a greater role in conversions than sermons or reasoned argument. He discusses the increasingly bloodthirsty demands of bishops, monks and imperial decrees as well as pointing out the weaknesses of the bureaucratic machinery.
Cost to the Persecuted: MacMullen notes how Constantine still claimed a sort of divine status for himself and his father. He discusses the joyous pagan festivals, including feasts, dancing, poetry orations and their long presistence despite the opposition of the bishops (Augustine tried to argue that giving friends presents was wicked). MacMullen also gives accounts of pagans who thought idols had actual magical powers. He discusses the destruction of pagan temples and shrines, as well as the cutting down of sacred trees.
Superstition: MacMullen discusses the shifiting attitude from the rational world view of Pliny, Seneca and Plotinus and the increase in credulity throughout the third and fourth centuries. MacMullen argues that this was a result of changes in the elite as more vulgar and less literate people increased their predominance. Whatever the merits of this thesis, MacMullen points our the contempt prominent Christians such as Tertullian, Augustine, Lactantius, Ambrose and John Chrysostom had for ancient philosophy. They denounced Plato and Aristotle by name, and mocked the idea of skeptical study and the scientific attitude. Nor did they stop there. They told stories about appartitions over the battlefield, miraculous cures, the everpresent existence of demons, people raised to life by Christians, and dragons turned to dust by the sign of the cross.
J A - 25 Apr 2008 23:15 GMT >> On 21 Apr, 21:24, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> Again: > (troll repost snipped) The coward calls a logical reply based on totally credible sources, "abuse", and resorts to running from it.
Here's what I said, and it stands:
You smell your own foul odor.
Again:
From Encyclopædia Britannica:
The reason why Christmas came to be celebrated on December 25 remains uncertain, but most probably the reason is that early Christians wished the date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the "birthday of the unconquered sun" (natalis solis invicti); this festival celebrated the winter solstice, when the days again begin to lengthen and the sun begins to climb higher in the sky.
The traditional customs connected with Christmas have accordingly developed from several sources as a result of the coincidence of the celebration of the birth of Christ with the pagan agricultural and solar observances at midwinter. In the Roman world the Saturnalia (December 17) was a time of merrymaking and exchange of gifts. December 25 was also regarded as the birth date of the Iranian mystery god Mithra, the Sun of Righteousness. On the Roman New Year (January 1), houses were decorated with greenery and lights, and gifts were given to children and the poor. To these observances were added the German and Celtic Yule rites when the Teutonic tribes penetrated into Gaul, Britain, and central Europe. Food and good fellowship, the Yule log and Yule cakes, greenery and fir trees, and gifts and greetings all commemorated different aspects of this festive season. Fires and lights, symbols of warmth and lasting life, have always been associated with the winter festival, both pagan and Christian. Since the European Middle Ages, evergreens, as symbols of survival, have been associated with Christmas. Christmas is traditionally regarded as the festival of the family and of children, under the name of whose patron, Saint Nicholas <eb://gateway/g?gtype=article_view&doc_name=core/05/71/23_1.html> (q.v.), or Santa Claus, presents are exchanged in many countries.
For those wanting a full academic treatment on how christianity took over existing pagan myths and celebrations see:
Paganism and Christianity 100-425 C.E. by Ramsay MacMullen , Yale University Press
Concise, elegant, massively documented and beautifully endnoted, Ramsay MacMullen's book is a devastating account of the rise of Christianity and the destruction of Paganism.
With 85 pages of notes to 159 pages of text, with widespread use of primary sources, archeological evidence and the secondary literature, MacMullen's book is an exhaustive update of Gibbon for the present day. The book consists of four chapters, those being Christian Persecution, the losses of the Pagans, the rise of superstition and the assimilation of pagan elements into Christian practice. I think Stalin would find it grimly amusing reading, since it suggests that whatever success Christianity achieved was by fanaticism and violence. We start off with an account of how Christians systematically suppressed non-Christian works, as well as the "heretics" amongst themselves. We hear Eusebius, the first great Church historian, announce that it is not the duty to tell the whole truth but only what is of profit. Students of the Russian Revolution will remember the gruesome story of the child who informed on his "kulak" parents, was murdered by his relatives, and became the hero of a gruesome cult. In this book we hear how the emperor Justinian was moved to raptures on hearing of how a Jewish boy convert survived being thrown into a furnace by his father. Justinian learned how angels prevented the boy from being burned, and then he had the father crucified. Persecution: MacMullen challenges those who argues that Christianity was an improvement for women and slaves. Women did play some role in leading Pagan cults, none at all in Christianity, and he tells how while a pagan governor demanded the compensation for the family of a murdered prostitute, Saint Jerome supported beheading for extramarital fornication. He discusses how exorcisms, resurrections, and healings played a greater role in conversions than sermons or reasoned argument. He discusses the increasingly bloodthirsty demands of bishops, monks and imperial decrees as well as pointing out the weaknesses of the bureaucratic machinery.
Cost to the Persecuted: MacMullen notes how Constantine still claimed a sort of divine status for himself and his father. He discusses the joyous pagan festivals, including feasts, dancing, poetry orations and their long presistence despite the opposition of the bishops (Augustine tried to argue that giving friends presents was wicked). MacMullen also gives accounts of pagans who thought idols had actual magical powers. He discusses the destruction of pagan temples and shrines, as well as the cutting down of sacred trees.
Superstition: MacMullen discusses the shifiting attitude from the rational world view of Pliny, Seneca and Plotinus and the increase in credulity throughout the third and fourth centuries. MacMullen argues that this was a result of changes in the elite as more vulgar and less literate people increased their predominance. Whatever the merits of this thesis, MacMullen points our the contempt prominent Christians such as Tertullian, Augustine, Lactantius, Ambrose and John Chrysostom had for ancient philosophy. They denounced Plato and Aristotle by name, and mocked the idea of skeptical study and the scientific attitude. Nor did they stop there. They told stories about appartitions over the battlefield, miraculous cures, the everpresent existence of demons, people raised to life by Christians, and dragons turned to dust by the sign of the cross.
monkfish - 25 Apr 2008 23:38 GMT > The coward calls a logical reply based on totally credible sources, > "abuse", and resorts to running from it. You are almost always abusive and not even aware of it.
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Roger Pearse - 26 Apr 2008 13:36 GMT > > The coward calls a logical reply based on totally credible sources, > > "abuse", and resorts to running from it. > > You are almost always abusive > and not even aware of it. I think he's aware of it. Such behaviour is so endemic among the atheists in alt.atheism that it indicates why atheism is hate-creed.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
J666 - 26 Apr 2008 13:47 GMT > why atheism is hate-creed. Simple generalized statements like the one above are the result of a simple minded person.
Many religions espouse a lot more hatred of those who believe otherwise than atheists do of those who believe.
Christopher A. Lee - 26 Apr 2008 14:14 GMT >> why atheism is hate-creed. Why Pearse is a viciously nasty bigot in addition to all the other attributes he has shown like terminal dishonesty.
>Simple generalized statements like the one above are the result of a simple >minded person. > >Many religions espouse a lot more hatred of those who believe otherwise than >atheists do of those who believe. By and large atheists simply want to get on with their own lives without religious interference in them.
J666 - 26 Apr 2008 14:17 GMT > By and large atheists simply want to get on with their own lives > without religious interference in them. Yes.
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J666 - 26 Apr 2008 15:07 GMT On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 8:35:43 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets > http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySatan [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthBeatssatan > http://HeartMDPhD.com/StupidSatan This is four of them
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monkfish - 26 Apr 2008 22:34 GMT >>> why atheism is hate-creed. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > By and large atheists simply want to get on with their own lives without > religious interference in them. Not those atheists who post to Christian newsgroups.
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Phobos - 26 Apr 2008 22:40 GMT >> By and large atheists simply want to get on with their own lives without >> religious interference in them. > > Not those atheists who post to Christian newsgroups. And not those Christians who post to atheist groups -there you go again, everything is black and white with no gray
monkfish - 27 Apr 2008 00:07 GMT >>> By and large atheists simply want to get on with their own lives >>> without religious interference in them. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > And not those Christians who post to atheist groups -there you go > again, everything is black and white with no gray I have been telling Christians not to bother atheists in their own newsgroup.
On the other hand, Christians should welcome atheists in their newsgroups so long as the visitors behave in a civilized manner, simply because that would be the Christian thing to do.
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John Baker - 26 Apr 2008 14:28 GMT >> why atheism is hate-creed. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Many religions espouse a lot more hatred of those who believe otherwise than >atheists do of those who believe. Roger has never been one to let the truth get in the way of his version of it.
Christopher A. Lee - 26 Apr 2008 14:40 GMT >>> why atheism is hate-creed. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Roger has never been one to let the truth get in the way of his >version of it. What is really pathetic is that if he had the sense to keep it to himself nobody would realise it is bullshit.
monkfish - 26 Apr 2008 22:46 GMT >>>> why atheism is hate-creed. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > What is really pathetic is that if he had the sense to keep it to > himself nobody would realise it is bullshit. Why are you acting like a member of a hate group?
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J A - 26 Apr 2008 16:05 GMT >>> why atheism is hate-creed. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Roger has never been one to let the truth get in the way of his > version of it. He's not unique in that.
Living a lie, going through the mental gymnastics required to maintain it -- all that has an effect on mental health and on the character.
You'll notice that many of them reject evolution, but still get their yearly flu shots to deal with mutating viruses.
J666 - 26 Apr 2008 16:28 GMT > You'll notice that many of them reject evolution, but still get their yearly > flu shots to deal with mutating viruses. Yes
monkfish - 26 Apr 2008 22:37 GMT >>> why atheism is hate-creed. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Roger has never been one to let the truth get in the way of his version > of it. Are you trying to insinuate that your version is better that his? What kind of logical fallacy is that?
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Roger Pearse - 26 Apr 2008 18:08 GMT > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 7:36:49 -0500,Roger Pearsewrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Simple generalized statements like the one above are the result of a simple > minded person. The tendency of atheists to assert as fact whatever they wish to believe always amuses those of us who think for ourselves. Think before posting, little man.
> Many religions espouse a lot more hatred of those who believe otherwise than > atheists do of those who believe. If true of course that justifies the torrents of mindless, bitter, dishonest hate found in alt.atheism? Oh. It doesn't, does it?
As a matter of fact, looking online, I can think of no religious group more focused on hate and with less positive content than the atheist religious group. They even boast about having no positive beliefs!! "Atheism is just unbelief", they claim, when questioned about their own belief-system, before swiftly changing the subject.
Anyone who disagrees with my assertion that atheists are the most hateful religious group online gets to produce their preferred candidates and prove that they are worse than atheists. And, yes, I have run across Orthodox Jewish hate-groups, and they aren't nearly as incessant and determined.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
monkfish - 26 Apr 2008 22:58 GMT >> > why atheism is hate-creed. >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Roger Pearse You might be correct. They sure know how to be hateful. Unless you can love your enemies up close and personal, stay away from alt.atheism, please.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Apr 2008 13:54 GMT > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I think he's aware of it. Such behaviour is so endemic among the > atheists in alt.atheism that it indicates why atheism is hate-creed. Actually, satan is not an atheist...
... he only pretends to be one to fool both believers **and** atheists. Thus, he is:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Pretendersatan
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DanielSan - 26 Apr 2008 17:12 GMT >>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: >>>> The coward calls a logical reply based on totally credible sources, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Actually, satan is not an atheist... Right. He believes in God.
Thankfully, I do not believe in either God or Satan (or any other character from any religion.)
J666 - 26 Apr 2008 17:23 GMT On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:12:42 -0500, DanielSan wrote
>> Actually, satan is not an atheist... > > Right. He believes in God. > > Thankfully, I do not believe in either God or Satan (or any other > character from any religion.) Can Satan die or become "born-again" or is Satan forever evil?
Darrell Stec - 26 Apr 2008 20:45 GMT > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:12:42 -0500, DanielSan wrote > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Can Satan die or become "born-again" or is Satan forever evil? Satan was a god according to scripture. Therefore he can die if any of the gods including El or Yahweh can die. Apparently the Elohim were afraid that once Adam and Eve ate the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that if they ate the fruit from the Tree of Everlasting Life, Adam and Eve would become gods like them. If the gods were not mortal, what did they fear? They were also afraid of men reaching heaven via the Tower of Babel.
Notice however that it is Yahweh that calls his brother evil. It is the same Yahweh that says killing your neighbors if they are not Jews is not only acceptable but rather required. It is the same Yahweh that says the children and non virgin women must also be killed along with the crops and livestock of your non Jewish neighbors. And this same Yahweh says that you can rape the virgins and if you find that they are a good piece of a.... (nevermind) you are to marry them. The same Yahweh thinks that Jews should be murdered if they eat shellfish, or wear two different types of cloth at the same time, or use the land for more than one type of crop. So which one do you think is really the evil one.
Early Christians struggled with this problem as did their contemporary Jewish neighbors.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Apr 2008 17:50 GMT satan via another sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Thankfully, I do not believe in either God or Satan (or any other > character from any religion.) Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate how you use delusions (making satan equivalent to GOD) to keep your sockpuppets in the dark about your control over them.
May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to rebuke you at each GOD- given opportunity as GOD desires:
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DanielSan - 26 Apr 2008 17:55 GMT > satan via another sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > equivalent to GOD) to keep your sockpuppets in the dark about your > control over them. 1) Satan and God are characters in the Christian religion. I'll bet you think that Xur and Centauri are equivalent, right? 2) I have sockpuppets?! Why aren't I notified about these things?! Who are my sockpuppets? I have something I want them to say.
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Darrell Stec - 26 Apr 2008 20:47 GMT > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling > you to unwittingly demonstrate how you use delusions (making satan > equivalent to GOD) to keep your sockpuppets in the dark about your > control over them. The bible says he WAS a god, a member of the Elohim, council of gods, sons of god, and brother to Yahweh. Who are you to contradict your own bible?
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Darrell Stec - 26 Apr 2008 20:37 GMT >>>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: >>>>> The coward calls a logical reply based on totally credible sources, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Right. He believes in God. Quite naturally. According to the bible he was one, a member of the Elohim, son of the Most High god El, Yahweh's brother and therefore Jesus' uncle. He was a god as Frodo was a hobbit.
> Thankfully, I do not believe in either God or Satan (or any other > character from any religion.)
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monkfish - 26 Apr 2008 23:37 GMT >>>>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: >>>>>> The coward calls a logical reply based on totally credible sources, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Elohim, son of the Most High god El, Yahweh's brother and therefore > Jesus' uncle. He was a god as Frodo was a hobbit. Stop playing with toys for toddlers. Aren't you old enough to play with real things.
Do space-time exist before the big bang? What does it mean for space-time to exist?
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weatherwax - 27 Apr 2008 01:16 GMT > Do space-time exist before the big bang? > What does it mean for space-time to exist? First, do you know what space-time is? Explain it.
I ask because I don't think you know what space-time is, and it would be a waste of time explaining it to you.
--Wax
monkfish - 27 Apr 2008 02:02 GMT >> Do space-time exist before the big bang? What does it mean for >> space-time to exist? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > --Wax I don't know what it is mathematically. But I read philosophy of science for several years, decades ago. So I would say I have some ideas in common language. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-time
How about you? Do you think the top physicists agree on what it is?
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weatherwax - 27 Apr 2008 04:56 GMT >>> Do space-time exist before the big bang? What does it mean for >>> space-time to exist? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > How about you? > Do you think the top physicists agree on what it is? "Some ideas in common language"? In other words: You have absolutely no idea what space-time is.
And yes, scientists do know what space-time is. It was worked out in Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity which has been proven accurate to an extremely high degree of reliability. On the quantum level there is still the question of whether spacetime is quantized or smooth, but that question will eventually be worked out..
--Wax
J666 - 27 Apr 2008 05:19 GMT > And yes, scientists do know what space-time is. It was worked out in > Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity which has been proven accurate to an > extremely high degree of reliability. On the quantum level there is still > the question of whether spacetime is quantized or smooth, but that question > will eventually be worked out.. An example of the scientific way of looking at the universe as to how it works which may lead to how it all started and proceeded to where we are now and perhaps give some idea to where we are going.
monkfish - 27 Apr 2008 05:48 GMT >>>> Do space-time exist before the big bang? What does it mean for >>>> space-time to exist? [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > --Wax Are you trying to say you understand it mathematically? Do you understand the Special Theory of Relativity as well? Care to explain them in ordinary language?
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weatherwax - 27 Apr 2008 07:13 GMT > weatherwax wrote: >>> weatherwax wrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Do you understand the Special Theory of Relativity as well? > Care to explain them in ordinary language? A reporter once asked Albert Einstein if he could explain the Theory of Relativity in language that the average person would understand.
Einstein answered, "Yes, but YOU wouldn't understand it."
--Wax
J A - 27 Apr 2008 17:06 GMT >> weatherwax wrote: >>>> weatherwax wrote: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Einstein answered, "Yes, but YOU wouldn't understand it." Anybody who needs to cope with life by relying on imaginery supernatural beings, isn't good candidate.
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monkfish - 27 Apr 2008 21:20 GMT >> weatherwax wrote: >>>> weatherwax wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > --Wax He actually wrote a book for lay people. I'm pretty sure I understood his theory in ordinary language when I read the book.
Do you understand it mathematically?
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Father Haskell - 27 Apr 2008 23:00 GMT > >> weatherwax wrote: > >>>> weatherwax wrote: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > I'm pretty sure I understood his theory > in ordinary language when I read the book. Then explain it.
Phobos - 27 Apr 2008 23:37 GMT > Then explain it. He most likely cannot and prefers to the appearance of knowledge which would disappear if he had to answer all these questions.
Monkfish is not as good as Chung, and unlike Chung, monkfish better keep his day job
Father Haskell - 28 Apr 2008 00:00 GMT > On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:00:50 -0500, Father Haskell wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Monkfish is not as good as Chung, and unlike Chung, monkfish better keep his > day job So Monkfish is Grasshopper to Chung's Master Po?
monkfish - 28 Apr 2008 01:56 GMT >> Then explain it. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Monkfish is not as good as Chung, and unlike Chung, monkfish better keep > his day job I'm not here to do philosophy of science. Not interested in it anymore, and probably too late to pick it up again after decades of neglect.
Actually there are quite a few physicists posting on a newsgroup. You can ask them what it means mathematically for time to exist.
My point is there are certain things that it does not make sense to ask what it means for them not to exist. I have no idea what it means for time not to exist. I have no idea what it means for space not to exist. I have no idea what it means for numbers not to exist. I have no idea what it means for logic not to exist. I have no idea what it means for language not to exist.
What does it mean for God not to exist?
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monkfish - 28 Apr 2008 01:47 GMT >> >> weatherwax wrote: >> >>>> weatherwax wrote: [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Then explain it. I don't wanna go there now. There must be more than enough explanations in plain English online. Google it and read for yourself.
But I sure would love to talk to someone who actually understand it mathematically.
I read in a magazine that scientists are not even sure time actually exists. I have no idea what it mean for time not to exist.
What does it mean for God not to exist?
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Teg_deffuts - 28 Apr 2008 04:52 GMT >>>>> weatherwax wrote: >>>>>>> weatherwax wrote: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > What does it mean for God not to exist? About the same as Pegasus, used to be part of our myth, now gone, no change.
monkfish - 26 Apr 2008 22:51 GMT >>>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: >>>>> The coward calls a logical reply based on totally credible sources, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thankfully, I do not believe in either God or Satan (or any other > character from any religion.) Not even Muhammad or the Buddha?
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Roger Pearse - 28 Apr 2008 21:32 GMT On 26 Apr, 13:54, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> friendRoger Pearsewrote: > > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Pretendersatan It is a common tactic by some Christian haters to post anti-Christian invective commonly used by atheists, and when labelled as such to try to muddy the waters by claiming "Oh I'm not an atheist", while keeping conveniently silent as to what they *are*. I find it unnecessary to play along with this dodge.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Apr 2008 23:15 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > conveniently silent as to what they *are*. I find it unnecessary to > play along with this dodge. What you are calling "some Christian haters," I know in the Holy Spirit, to be satan and his children (sockpuppets).
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J A - 26 Apr 2008 16:05 GMT >> > The coward calls a logical reply based on totally credible sources, >> > "abuse", and resorts to running from it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I think he's aware of it. Such behaviour is so endemic among the > atheists in alt.atheism that it indicates why atheism is hate-creed. There's nothing wrong with telling a liar that he is a liar.
As anyone who goes up the thread a few posts to read what you posted can see, you brought your own foul odor along with your lies into this exchange.
> All the best, > > Roger Pearse Roger Pearse - 26 Apr 2008 17:57 GMT > >> > The coward calls a logical reply based on totally credible sources, > >> > "abuse", and resorts to running from it. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > There's nothing wrong with telling a liar that he is a liar. Indeed so. The problem is the atheist liars calling other people liars. They do, indeed, do nothing else.
> As anyone who goes up the thread a few posts to read what you posted can > see, you .. [abuse] Smile. Funny how all the atheists always claim it's the other guy; and it never, ever, is.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
J A - 26 Apr 2008 18:43 GMT On 26 Apr, 17:01, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote:
> "Roger Pearse" <roger.pea...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > There's nothing wrong with telling a liar that he is a liar. Indeed so. The problem is the atheist liars calling other people liars. They do, indeed, do nothing else. <
If your jesus myth is true, then produce him and have prove his existence and powers.
When will you do that, dwarf?
> As anyone who goes up the thread a few posts to read what you posted can > see, you .. [abuse] Smile. Funny how all the atheists always claim it's the other guy; and it never, ever, is. <
LOL. In the face of a systematic liar, all that needs to be done is display some truth. There are thousands of gods that have been worshipped by homo sapiens in the past and present. Start here: <http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/names/gods.htm>
Can you tell me which ones you believe in and which you don't, and show the EVIDENCE for the existence of the ones you believe in?
Or, if you're stupid enough to think all god claims need to be disproved by non-believers instead of PROVED by the believer - then also give evidence for the non-existence of all the gods you don't believe in.
Get busy, dwarf.
All the best ;-))
Roger Pearse - 26 Apr 2008 19:44 GMT > On 26 Apr, 17:01, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > If your jesus myth is true, then produce him and have prove his existence > and powers. Which Jesus myth might that be? And why are you changing the subject? <smile>
> > As anyone who goes up the thread a few posts to read what you posted can > > see, you .. [abuse] [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > LOL. In the face of a systematic liar, all that needs to be done is display > some truth. Well that rules you out immediately.
> There are thousands of gods that have been worshipped by homo sapiens > in the past and present. There are thousands of religious positions. Funny how atheists don't want theirs included.
> Can you tell me which ones you believe in and which you don't, and > show the EVIDENCE for the existence of the ones you believe in? Can you state your religious position -- conformity -- and produce EVIDENCE for it? Of course not. All you can do is weasel, bitch, and produce irrelevant rubbish like this.
If you had any shame, you wouldn't have to run away from discussing atheism like this.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
J A - 26 Apr 2008 20:05 GMT On 26 Apr, 19:42, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote:
> > "Roger Pearse" <roger.pea...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > If your jesus myth is true, then produce him and have prove his existence > and powers. Which Jesus myth might that be? And why are you changing the subject? <smile>
The subject is "lying".
I'm not changing from it - you're trying to.
You're also running from the question, again:
If your jesus myth is true, then produce him and have prove his existence and powers.
Come on, answer.
> > As anyone who goes up the thread a few posts to read what you posted can > > see, you .. [abuse] [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > display > some truth. Well that rules you out immediately.
> There are thousands of gods that have been worshipped by homo sapiens > in the past and present. There are thousands of religious positions. Funny how atheists don't want theirs included.
He can't answer honestly, so he wiggles around.
> Can you tell me which ones you believe in and which you don't, and > show the EVIDENCE for the existence of the ones you believe in? He can't answer honestly, so he wiggles around.
Can you state your religious position -- conformity -- and produce EVIDENCE for it?
You lying coward.
My religious postion is that no body has ever been able to prove the existence of supernatural beings.
That's plain and stright forward.
Of course not. All you can do is weasel, bitch, and produce irrelevant rubbish like this. <
All the weaseling, bitching and irrelevant rubbish is coming from you, you lying coward.
There's nothing irrelevant about asking for proof for supernatural beings that have myths that people are supposed to base their lives and actions on.
If you had any shame, you wouldn't have to run away from discussing atheism like this. <
YOU'RE A LYING COWARD.
You're saying there is a "god", not me.
It's up to the person saying something exists, to prove it exists, not the other way around.
Anybody can read up the thread and see you are running and lying like the lying bitch you always show yourself to be.
Roger Pearse - 26 Apr 2008 22:13 GMT > On 26 Apr, 19:42, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > The subject is "lying". Illiteracy noted. The subject is **atheists**, and their tendency to lie.
Even if the subject was lying, just how would your demand relate to it?
> > > As anyone who goes up the thread a few posts to read what you posted can > > > see, you .. [abuse] [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > He can't answer honestly, so he wiggles around. Um, there was no question; just a rather dishonest attempt to exclude your religious position from discussion. Which brings us back to lying...
> > Can you tell me which ones you believe in and which you don't, and > > show the EVIDENCE for the existence of the ones you believe in? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You lying coward. I'll take that as an abusive 'no'. Funny how atheists rush to change the subject when their own beliefs come up for discussion.
> My religious postion is that no body has ever been able to prove the > existence of supernatural beings. No, it isn't. That's a statement about someone *else*'s position. Yours isn't even discussed.
> That's plain and stright forward. And irrelevant. We're talking about atheism, here in alt.atheism, not about some other views.
> Of course not. All you can do is weasel, bitch, and > produce irrelevant rubbish like this. > < > > All the weaseling, bitching and irrelevant rubbish is coming from you, you > lying coward. Lie noted. Every time we talk about atheism you change the subject.
> There's nothing irrelevant about asking for proof for supernatural beings... There is, when we're talking about atheism and atheist lies.
> ...that have myths that people are supposed to base their lives and actions on. Start talking about atheism, cupcake, and what YOU base your lives and actions on, not about your dreary hate for other religious views.
> If you had any shame, you wouldn't have to run away from discussing > atheism like this. > < > > YOU'RE A LYING COWARD. Still running, I see.
> You're saying there is a "god", not me. Where? I'm talking about atheism. You're the one introducing irrelevant views held by others.
> It's up to the person saying something exists, to prove it exists, not the > other way around. Indeed. But you can't even get as far as a statement of the atheist position that makes sense, or is anything but irrelevant vituperation. None of us give a damn what atheists don't believe in. OK, you don't believe in fairies. So what? Tell us what you base your life and actions on (and not just some bit of self-flattering crap about 'reason').
> Anybody can read up the thread and see you are running and lying like the > lying bitch you always show yourself to be. Lie noted. First you try to change the subject to theist beliefs, now you try to change the subject to me. Funny how embarassed atheists are to talk about atheism.
Atheism, atheism, atheism. That's the subject. Now talk.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
J A - 26 Apr 2008 22:56 GMT On 26 Apr, 21:03, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote:
> > "Roger Pearse" <roger.pea...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > >news:22608790-2755-4d05-850c-3e6c51a75db4@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >> The subject is "lying".
>Illiteracy noted. The subject is **atheists**, and their tendency to >lie. Again, you're a liar.
By the way, fool, here's the definition of atheism: "disbelief in the existence of deity".
>Even if the subject was lying, just how would your demand relate to >it? Good, we're making progress.
Very simple, as I stated before, if your jesus myth is true, then produce him and have prove his existence and powers.
That will end any need for disagreements over religion.
An all powerful god obviously has the power to reveal itself to mankind, and would have no fear of revealing itself to mankind.
> > > As anyone who goes up the thread a few posts to read what you posted > > > can [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > LOL. In the face of a systematic liar, all that needs to be done is > > display some truth.
> Well that rules you out immediately. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > There are thousands of religious positions. Funny how atheists don't > want theirs included.
>> He can't answer honestly, so he wiggles around.
>Um, there was no question; just a rather dishonest attempt to exclude >your religious position from discussion. Which brings us back to >lying... Moron, atheism says there are no supernatural beings.
Thats' what the construct of the word IS: a - theism.
It's a position that Einstein took. Albert Einstein: " it was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which has been systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
Albert Einstein: "the idea of a personal God is quite alien to me and seems even naïve."
> > Can you tell me which ones you believe in and which you don't, and > > show the EVIDENCE for the existence of the ones you believe in? > > Can you state your religious position -- conformity -- and produce > EVIDENCE for it?
>> You lying coward.
>I'll take that as an abusive 'no'. Funny how atheists rush to change >the subject when their own beliefs come up for discussion. It's not abuse.
It's a description of you, delivered after you repeatedly evasived avoided my simple question, by posing a question containing a lie.
>> My religious postion is that no body has ever been able to prove the >> existence of supernatural beings.
>No, it isn't. That's a statement about someone *else*'s position. >Yours isn't even discussed. Again, the above statement above marks you as a liar and a coward.
I made a simple clear statement, you answered with confused evasive language.
You are an example of what religion does to the mind and character.
>> That's plain and stright forward.
>And irrelevant. We're talking about atheism, here in alt.atheism, not >about some other views. Moron, there are a 5 newsgroups included in this thread.
And you're trying to evade and change the subject from my simple initial request:
If your jesus myth is true, then produce him and have prove his existence and powers.
When will you do that, dwarf?
> Of course not. All you can do is weasel, bitch, and > produce irrelevant rubbish like this. > <
>> All the weaseling, bitching and irrelevant rubbish is coming from you, >> you >> lying coward.
>Lie noted. Every time we talk about atheism you change the subject. Do you think people can't figure out that you're lying and evading?
>> There's nothing irrelevant about asking for proof for supernatural >> beings...
>There is, when we're talking about atheism and atheist lies. An atheist says there is no proof of gods.
Do you have such proof?
Each time I've told you to bring it forward, you have whined and tried to change the subject.
You are pitiful.
>> ...that have myths that people are supposed to base their lives and >> actions on.
>Start talking about atheism, cupcake, and what YOU base your lives and >actions on, not about your dreary hate for other religious views. I already have told you about atheism, you twat.
An atheist says there is no proof of gods.
>> If you had any shame, you wouldn't have to run away from discussing >> atheism like this. >> <
>> YOU'RE A LYING COWARD.
>Still running, I see. I'm still describing you as a liar and a coward.
>> You're saying there is a "god", not me.
>>Where? I'm talking about atheism. You're the one introducing >>irrelevant views held by others. What you're doing for everybody to see, is showing that you are an evasive liar.
>> It's up to the person saying something exists, to prove it exists, not >> the >> other way around. Indeed. But you can't even get as far as a statement of the atheist position that makes sense,
An atheist says there is no proof of gods.
Everybody knwos that.
>> Anybody can read up the thread and see you are running and lying like the >> lying bitch you always show yourself to be.
>Lie noted. First you try to change the subject to theist beliefs, now you try to change the subject to me. Funny how embarassed atheists
>are to talk about atheism.
>Atheism, atheism, atheism. That's the subject. Now talk. An atheist says there is no proof of gods. An atheist says there is no proof of gods. An atheist says there is no proof of gods.
Here twat:
If your jesus myth is true, then produce him and have prove his existence and powers.
J666 - 26 Apr 2008 23:14 GMT > And you're trying to evade and change the subject from my simple initial > reques That is what he does, though it it obvious and not done very well - maybe he is a child trying to play grown-up
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J A - 27 Apr 2008 01:12 GMT > http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/ Truth indicates atheism J A - 27 Apr 2008 01:12 GMT >> And you're trying to evade and change the subject from my simple initial >> reques > > That is what he does, though it it obvious and not done very well - maybe > he > is a child trying to play grown-up Yeh, or somebody with a very limited intellect, doing an imitation of a person good at debate, but failing in ways and tp degrees, that he can't comprehend.
oh well.
Roger Pearse - 29 Apr 2008 20:20 GMT > On 26 Apr, 19:42, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > The subject is "lying". Indeed it is. So you changed the subject to 'is Christianity true'.
> I'm not changing from it - you're trying to. Lie noted.
> You're also running from the question... (second attempt to change subject snipped) Impudence noted.
> > > As anyone who goes up the thread a few posts to read what you posted can > > > see, you .. [abuse] [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > He can't answer honestly, so he wiggles around. No answer? I thought not.
> > Can you tell me which ones you believe in and which you don't, and > > show the EVIDENCE for the existence of the ones you believe in? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You lying coward. Abuse noted.
> My religious postion is that no body has ever been able to prove the > existence of supernatural beings. No, little man, that is not your religious position. That is a negative position about the beliefs of others.
> That's plain and stright forward. And irrelevant.
> Of course not. All you can do is weasel, bitch, and > produce irrelevant rubbish like this. > < (tu quoque abuse snipped)
> There's nothing irrelevant about asking for proof for supernatural beings... There is when we are discussing atheism, atheists, and their willingness to lie.
> If you had any shame, you wouldn't have to run away from discussing > atheism like this. > < > > YOU'RE A LYING COWARD. Irrelevant personal abuse noted.
> You're saying there is a "god", not me. Where? I'm talking about atheism, and lying.
> It's up to the person saying something exists, to prove it exists... (irrelevant stale slogans snipped) You can't even state your belief system, never mind offer evidence for it.
> Anybody can read up the thread and see you ... Indeed. What they won't see is you talking about atheism. That's because you can't.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Apr 2008 23:36 GMT > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > > > YOU'RE A LYING COWARD. > > Irrelevant personal abuse noted. Yes, he is..
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J666 - 25 Apr 2008 23:00 GMT > I smell a troll... Fee! Fie! Foe! Fum!?? I smell the blood of a Troll-man. Be he Jesus, or be he Satan, I'll grind his bones to make my manna.
J A - 25 Apr 2008 23:15 GMT >> I smell a troll... > > Fee! Fie! Foe! Fum!?? > I smell the blood of a Troll-man. > Be he Jesus, or be he Satan, > I'll grind his bones to make my manna. What a loser this Pearse is.
If he isn't throwing up phony arguments, he's claiming the Encyclopedia Britannica and an academic history published by Yale university Press, are "troll" sources.
What a contemptible twat.
monkfish - 25 Apr 2008 23:41 GMT >>> I smell a troll... >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > What a contemptible twat. You don't even know what trolling is, do you?
You should be just posting at alt.atheism and nowhere else. You are plonked for a month at least.
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J A - 26 Apr 2008 00:21 GMT >>>> I smell a troll... >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > You don't even know what trolling is, do you? You're an example of a vacuous troll.
Father Haskell - 26 Apr 2008 02:40 GMT > >>> I smell a troll... > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > and nowhere else. > You are plonked for a month at least. Wait until jesus hears you've given up on saving JA.
monkfish - 26 Apr 2008 03:36 GMT >> >>> I smell a troll... >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Wait until jesus hears you've given up on saving JA. He will be here. Let's see how he does after reading me for a full month.
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panamfloyd@hotmail.com - 21 Apr 2008 23:48 GMT > > "Mike" <m...@no.spam.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Argument by book, eh? Let's see what documentation in support of > these silly claims is produced.... ROFL! Where would you prefer historians publish the result of their research, Roger? Fortune cookies? Sweepstakes tickets?
Seriously, you dig yourself deeper with every post you write. Go home, Roger. No one believes you anymore.
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monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 23:54 GMT >>> How many of the Celestial Chicken's chickens have given their life so >>> man can [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > earlier myths that people are no longer aware of, and they think is > describing some unique actual event (it's not). Theistic understanding of God can be difficult to understand for some modern people. But, strangely they don't seem to have much problem in believing in many other idols.
Isn't money powerful? Do you believe in money? Have you seen money recently? What does it mean to believe in money?
Is it natural for money to earn interest? Is your money working hard? Will your money protect you? Will money buy you happiness? Do you talk to your money? Do you ever listen to your money?
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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 16:43 GMT > You mock because you don't understand the verses ....... It seems there are many contradictory verses in the Bible and many pick and choose which verses to interpret so that it fits in with their thoughts.
So which interpretation is the correct one for these verse.
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 04:50 GMT On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:04:46 -0500, Machete wrote
> Yes but keep in mind that Mr. Shabbaz just got released from prison for > strong armed robery, he's just done some hard time. Being out on the open [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > business going again! It may sound like a bum deal for Shabbaz, but he's > actually excited about it! Shabazz seems the best choice.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 05:25 GMT > On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:04:46 -0500, Machete wrote > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Shabazz seems the best choice. Keep that up and sooner or later, people will realize that you deserve to be called a minion of Satan.
You are plonked for a month.
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monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 05:18 GMT >>> >> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:43:29 -0500, Father Haskell wrote (in >>> >> message [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > his pimp and drug business going again! It may sound like a bum deal > for Shabbaz, but he's actually excited about it! What a waste of life!
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Machete - 20 Apr 2008 05:35 GMT >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:44933c6c-00f4-4d2b-97ab- [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > What a waste of life! Yeah but this is a chance for Mr. Shabbaz to do something good for humanity! What, no more stupid questions?
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 05:46 GMT > Yeah but this is a chance for Mr. Shabbaz to do something good for humanity! Yes, Shabbazz is doing a mitzvah while others criticize him - makes you wonder about the motives and lack of character of those criticizing him
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 06:35 GMT >>> "Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:44933c6c-00f4-4d2b-97ab- [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Yeah but this is a chance for Mr. Shabbaz to do something good for > humanity! What, no more stupid questions? Money is powerful. There are many reasons for people to worship money. But money is not a true god. It's deceptive and destructive.
Instead of wasting your time, you might as well ask yourself what's wrong with money and how such knowledge would help us find the real god.
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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 05:34 GMT > It may sound like a bum deal for Shabbaz, but he's > actually excited about it! It is also such an homorable Sabbazz is doing to help Chung make the world safe from bird flu. After a wrong turn in life which led him to jail, Shabbazz now seems to be doing the good and honorable and decent thing to do.
I understand in prison Shabbazz was Hatched Again and now believes in the Celestial Chicken and His word in the Chible.
"You can always heat up again a nice piece of chicken" Chickie said in the Chible in Book Pollo Redux 15:19
Machete - 20 Apr 2008 05:44 GMT >> It may sound like a bum deal for Shabbaz, but he's >> actually excited about it! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "You can always heat up again a nice piece of chicken" Chickie said in the > Chible in Book Pollo Redux 15:19 Perhaps he'll be able to convert and cure Chung??
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 05:54 GMT > Perhaps he'll be able to convert and cure Chung?? Salvation is through the Celestial Chicken and even someone like Chung can be hatched again.
"There will always be one more chicken." Tyson 14:19
Machete - 20 Apr 2008 06:32 GMT >> Perhaps he'll be able to convert and cure Chung?? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > "There will always be one more chicken." Tyson 14:19 I still think Chung should get an MRI of the brain but since there is no modern hosptial who will take him as a patient, I might have to arrange a pneumoencephalogram (an X ray of the brain made by replacing spinal fluid with a gas (usually oxygen) to improve contrast.) in China. Very painful and outdated procedure but we need to know what's going on inside Chung's head.
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 16:17 GMT > we need to know what's going on inside Chung's > head. Inside of Chung's skull may be the exception to the rule that nature abhors a vacuum
Father Haskell - 21 Apr 2008 01:56 GMT > > Perhaps he'll be able to convert and cure Chung?? > > Salvation is through the Celestial Chicken and even someone like Chung can be > hatched again. > > "There will always be one more chicken." Tyson 14:19 Jesus: 12 disciples. KFC: 11 secret herbs an spices.
J666 - 21 Apr 2008 03:12 GMT > Jesus: 12 disciples. > KFC: 11 secret herbs an spices. The last supper was roasted chicken.
Laus Pollo
J666 - 21 Apr 2008 03:35 GMT >> Jesus: 12 disciples. >> KFC: 11 secret herbs an spices. > > The last supper was roasted chicken. > > Laus Pollo Notice the washing of the chicken from which Christianity stole washing of the feet
SPECIAL ROAST CHICKEN FOR THE LAST SUPPER
1 4-5 lb chicken garlic and onion powder paprika salt and pepper stuffing butter
Wash bird well inside and out. Wipe dry with a paper towel. Stuff with dressing. Truss and tie.
Brush with melted butter. Sprinkle chicken with salt, pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, and finally, paprika. Place in oven at 325°F.
Roast, uncovered, breast side up. Keep turning and basting occasionally, until chicken is browned evenly on all sides. Baste often for a moister bird.
Allow 30 minutes per pound of chicken or cook until breast meat reads 160°F on an instant read thermometer.
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Father Haskell - 21 Apr 2008 05:34 GMT > > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:56:14 -0500, Father Haskell wrote > > (in message [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Allow 30 minutes per pound of chicken or cook until breast meat reads 160°F > on an instant read thermometer. 160 will give the supper guests the sh.ts for a week.
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Father Haskell - 21 Apr 2008 01:52 GMT > >> >>> How about lemon juice? He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and > >> >>> get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > business going again! It may sound like a bum deal for Shabbaz, but he's > actually excited about it! A good job report will look good to his future employers. I think we can help the man out.
Machete - 20 Apr 2008 04:25 GMT >> >>> How about lemon juice? He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and >> >>> get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > He so wanted a teak bar on that luxury appointed > yacht that he was going to follow Chung with. Perhaps this would be a better companion for Chung?
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Father Haskell - 21 Apr 2008 02:37 GMT > >> >>> How about lemon juice? He could shove a whole lemon up his butt, and > >> >>> get his daily dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the same time. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Perhaps this would be a better companion for Chung? She'd be the perfect coxswain to keep Andy on his toes.
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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 01:27 GMT > Well, at least that would shut him up so his mate doesn't have to listen to > him. Wouldn't that depend on who is his mate. I could see where it might be good for the mate to be bothered.
When you say mate, do you mean in the naval sense or the spousal sense?
Machete - 20 Apr 2008 02:09 GMT >> Well, at least that would shut him up so his mate doesn't have to listen >> to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > When you say mate, do you mean in the naval sense or the spousal sense? Naval. I have assigned Mr. Shabbaz to ride with Chung across the Atlantic. Several different reasons lead to this decision. Mr. Shabbaz has knowledge of sea travel and was in the Nazy for 4 weeks, he was kicked out for beating up the Chaplin. Despite that, and being a convicted felon who was just realsed from Pelican Bay, he's the perfect man for the job. Unfortunately for Chung, he is Muslim and doesn't care for Christians. Another unfortunate aspect is that he is 6'7, 340 pounds, so he'll need a lot of space. I have promised him 40,000 dollars (plus addtional earning potential for Chung's protection overseas.) Chung of course, will be responsible for his salary.
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 02:23 GMT > Naval. I have assigned Mr. Shabbaz to ride with Chung across the Atlantic. > Several different reasons lead to this decision. Mr. Shabbaz has knowledge [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > for Chung's protection overseas.) Chung of course, will be responsible for > his salary. Makes a lot of sense as long as he is like a fish who takes to water.
Machete - 20 Apr 2008 03:50 GMT >> Naval. I have assigned Mr. Shabbaz to ride with Chung across the >> Atlantic. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Makes a lot of sense as long as he is like a fish who takes to water. Oh, he'll take to the water but it's unlikely that he'll take to Chung. Could be some risks involved there for Andy, but hey, at least Chung has some company although he's already stated that Chung is not allowed to speak during the journey.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 03:57 GMT >>> Naval. I have assigned Mr. Shabbaz to ride with Chung across the >>> Atlantic. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > some company although he's already stated that Chung is not allowed to > speak during the journey. Still playing with imaginary friends?
You can talk to me, dear. I can really help you.
Have you been trying to carpet the world with leather? Why don't you just wear your shoes, dear.
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J666 - 20 Apr 2008 04:48 GMT > Oh, he'll take to the water but it's unlikely that he'll take to Chung. > Could be some risks involved there for Andy, but hey, at least Chung has > some company although he's already stated that Chung is not allowed to speak > during the journey. If Chung cannot talk, then Chung's mate needs to only talk to himself or be the type of idiot who can only ask inane questions no one, even Chung, would want to answer - sort of like white background noise.
Machete - 20 Apr 2008 01:08 GMT >> > On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 1:59:28 -0500, Father Haskell wrote >> > (in message [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > dose of scurvy-preventing vitamin C at the > same time. Wouldn't a large orange accomplish the same thing? It might be a bit more painful for Chung but he's not allowed to take any medication.
J666 - 20 Apr 2008 01:13 GMT > Wouldn't a large orange accomplish the same thing? It might be a bit more > painful for Chung but he's not allowed to take any medication. A gragefruit is even larger.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 01:15 GMT >> Wouldn't a large orange accomplish the same thing? It might be a bit >> more painful for Chung but he's not allowed to take any medication. >> > A gragefruit is even larger. How about your head?
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Father Haskell - 20 Apr 2008 02:24 GMT > >> Wouldn't a large orange accomplish the same thing? It might be a bit > >> more painful for Chung but he's not allowed to take any medication. > > > A gragefruit is even larger. > > How about your head? You were supposed to say bald faced hornet's nest, but thanks for playing.
monkfish - 20 Apr 2008 01:13 GMT >>> >> Speaking of peridontal issues >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Wouldn't a large orange accomplish the same thing? It might be a bit > more painful for Chung but he's not allowed to take any medication. Do you enjoy torturing yourself like this?
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Father Haskell - 20 Apr 2008 02:25 GMT > >>> "J666" <j...@jmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Do you enjoy torturing yourself like this? Do you think being crucified gave jesus an orgasm?
J666 - 19 Apr 2008 13:42 GMT Chung, the crazy dragon lived on the sea And deluded in the autumn mist in a land called Sarah Lee,
Machete - 19 Apr 2008 14:27 GMT >> >> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > stocking up on bread fruit. Certainly there'll be > ample breadfruit trees along his route? Oh the possibilities! Poor Chung, I'm afaid there is nothing that can really be done from here on in except to provide him with some dog biscuits (which Chung will be allowed to purchase) and a bucket in case he gets sea sick. I certainly don't want him polluting the waters and killing all the fish.
Yes, you're right, there should be plenty of breadfruit trees all along his route. All Chung has to be is find them. Oh, the only currency he'll be allowed to carry is the RMB, so stopping along the way to purchase things from locals might be difficult, not sure. Hopefully the large plastic chicken on the front of his boat, his 340 pound mate and his knowledge of human anatomy will help his journey be a success. In reality, it's like traveling into space with no oxygen errr, I mean, going into a fist fight with only one arm.
monkfish - 19 Apr 2008 17:19 GMT >>> >> > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > reality, it's like traveling into space with no oxygen errr, I mean, > going into a fist fight with only one arm. Are you trolling?
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J666 - 18 Apr 2008 04:36 GMT > Yeah, I don't imagine the Omer-Wanger would fair well against a tsunami of > 40 or 50 feet. I still haven't read a thanks for Chung for the 100HP motor, > it will make it much easier on him physically and will cut his trip from > 8-10 months to perhaps a month, if he makes it out of US waters, err, I > mean, if he doesn't run out of gas. Warning for Chung - wear a helmet as Chicken Little says the sky fall where Chung will be.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 04:38 GMT >> Yeah, I don't imagine the Omer-Wanger would fair well against a tsunami >> of 40 or 50 feet. I still haven't read a thanks for Chung for the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Warning for Chung - wear a helmet as Chicken Little says the sky fall > where Chung will be. Too late. It's sitting on you.
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Machete - 18 Apr 2008 06:44 GMT >> Yeah, I don't imagine the Omer-Wanger would fair well against a tsunami >> of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > where > Chung will be. Chung boat has been fitted with a large plastic chicken to pay homage to the Chicken of the Sea who will ultimately decide Chung's fate. I figured it's the least I could do considering his odds are no more than 1/5000.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2008 11:01 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets
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Machete - 18 Apr 2008 11:18 GMT > http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthSlayssatan http://omerwanger/iceberg/laughingchicken
I've installed a throttle for your engine Wanger, lay into that motherf..ker, get that wooden piece of sh.t up to about 50MPH and you'll be in China before you know it, now get some sleep Captain w.nker. Your're obviously experiencing a manic episode as you've posted thousands of times in the last few days and haven't been to bed in a week.
J666 - 18 Apr 2008 13:13 GMT > http://omerwanger/iceberg/laughingchicken Wonder if Chung will take any iceberg lettuce on the trip if he wants a sliced chicken sandwich.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 18:06 GMT >> http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > thousands of times in the last few days and haven't been to bed in a > week. Try to have some good thoughts about other people.
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J666 - 18 Apr 2008 13:11 GMT > Chung boat has been fitted with a large plastic chicken to pay homage to the > Chicken of the Sea who will ultimately decide Chung's fate. I figured it's > the least I could do considering his odds are no more than 1/5000. Is it one of the plastic ones with a head that will bobble around and move with the waves and might make Chung seasick.
Machete - 18 Apr 2008 18:08 GMT >> Chung boat has been fitted with a large plastic chicken to pay homage to >> the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Is it one of the plastic ones with a head that will bobble around and move > with the waves and might make Chung seasick. Oh well, he'll be over it in a week or so, no big deal.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 17:57 GMT >>> Yeah, I don't imagine the Omer-Wanger would fair well against a >>> tsunami of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > figured it's the least I could do considering his odds are no more than > 1/5000. With God or without God? Do we invent God or find God?
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Machete - 18 Apr 2008 20:50 GMT >>>> Yeah, I don't imagine the Omer-Wanger would fair well against a >>>> tsunami of [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > With God or without God? > Do we invent God or find God? You posted a question about sanity the other day, think about that for a while and then check into your nearest detox/mental health facility.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 22:00 GMT >>>>> Yeah, I don't imagine the Omer-Wanger would fair well against a >>>>> tsunami of [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > You posted a question about sanity the other day, think about that for a > while and then check into your nearest detox/mental health facility. I might if you can prove to me that sanity even exists.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Apr 2008 10:45 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets
monkfish - 17 Apr 2008 16:39 GMT > Bugger me, iceberg right ahead! Is this the best use of your time?
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Machete - 17 Apr 2008 17:12 GMT >> Bugger me, iceberg right ahead! > > Is this the best use of your time? Asking me question like "can I show you what love is" certainly point in that direction. My advice would be to find people who are into roughing it rather than wasting 18 hours a day with Wanger here on the net.
monkfish - 17 Apr 2008 17:25 GMT >>> Bugger me, iceberg right ahead! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that direction. My advice would be to find people who are into roughing > it rather than wasting 18 hours a day with Wanger here on the net. You first.
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Machete - 18 Apr 2008 02:19 GMT >>>> Bugger me, iceberg right ahead! >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You first. Such a foolish statement, you are the one that asked if I wanted to know what love was. A bit unseemly for one man to be asking another, don't ya think?
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 02:37 GMT >>>>> Bugger me, iceberg right ahead! >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > what love was. A bit unseemly for one man to be asking another, don't > ya think? Is language prior to humans?
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Machete - 18 Apr 2008 04:13 GMT >>>>>> Bugger me, iceberg right ahead! >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Is language prior to humans? Does the average man take a dump on the morning, in the evening, or both?
J666 - 18 Apr 2008 04:30 GMT > Does the average man take a dump on the morning, in the evening, or both? The a.sholes who need an oral surgeon to take care of their anal problems, will sometime dump crap all day long as we have been seeing with muckcrap and Chinga.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 04:33 GMT >> Does the average man take a dump on the morning, in the evening, or >> both? > > The a.sholes who need an oral surgeon to take care of their anal > problems, will sometime dump crap all day long as we have been seeing > with muckcrap and Chinga. You really should smell your own posts.
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Machete - 18 Apr 2008 06:37 GMT >>> Does the average man take a dump on the morning, in the evening, or >>> both? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You really should smell your own posts. One who peals paint off the walls with his own excremental verbiage should not judge others.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 17:54 GMT >>>> Does the average man take a dump on the morning, in the evening, or >>>> both? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > One who peals paint off the walls with his own excremental verbiage > should not judge others. Better open a window into your mind.
Is language prior to humans? Do we invent language or find it?
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Machete - 18 Apr 2008 20:49 GMT >>>>> Does the average man take a dump on the morning, in the evening, or >>>>> both? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Is language prior to humans? > Do we invent language or find it? Wormholes are fun.
J666 - 18 Apr 2008 20:57 GMT > Wormholes are fun. a.sholes, like the Assinity, are also fun to mock and they really do make it very easy.
Machete - 18 Apr 2008 21:10 GMT >> Wormholes are fun. > > a.sholes, like the Assinity, are also fun to mock and they really do make > it > very easy. A decent wormhole could make an a.shole disappear though. Fishdick would make the perfect candiate for experimental space travel.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 22:02 GMT >> Wormholes are fun. > > a.sholes, like the Assinity, are also fun to mock and they really do > make it very easy. Are you mocking someone day and night? Is that good for your mental health?
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monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 21:58 GMT >>>>>> Does the average man take a dump on the morning, in the evening, or >>>>>> both? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Wormholes are fun. If language is too difficult, let's start with money. We all know what it is, don't we?
Did humans create money?
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Machete - 18 Apr 2008 06:33 GMT >> Does the average man take a dump on the morning, in the evening, or both? > > The a.sholes who need an oral surgeon to take care of their anal problems, > will sometime dump crap all day long as we have been seeing with muckcrap > and > Chinga. Stinkfish is bilingual, he is capable of speaking out of his a.s and his mouth. Unfortunately, he speaks out of his a.s the vast majority (about 98 percent) of the time. Chung is not bilingual, he is only capable of speaking directly out of his a.s and this is not something that could possibly be cured by an oral surgeon, even the best oral surgeon would throw his hands in the air after examining Chung for a few minutes. LMFAO though, funnny J666.
monkfish - 18 Apr 2008 17:51 GMT >>> Does the average man take a dump on the morning, in the evening, or >>> both? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > throw his hands in the air after examining Chung for a few minutes. > LMFAO though, funnny J666. Still clueless?
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Machete - 13 Apr 2008 17:20 GMT > Here, Andy, you'll need a map of the Pacific to > get yourself to China: > > http://files.meetup.com/238907/middle%20earth%20map%20wallpaper.jpg I've actually dsigned my own map for Chung, will keep out shipping lanes and things of that nature though, we want this to be a difficult voyage for Chung, a confidence builder!
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Father Haskell - 14 Apr 2008 07:21 GMT > > Here, Andy, you'll need a map of the Pacific to > > get yourself to China: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > things of that nature though, we want this to be a difficult voyage for > Chung, a confidence builder! Label everything in Cyrillic, no sense doing it half-assed.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 14 Apr 2008 11:12 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Foolishsatan
Father Haskell - 14 Apr 2008 22:31 GMT On Apr 14, 6:12 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Foolishsatan You could get hopelessly marooned at sea and learn Russian at the same time. This doesn't appeal to you?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 15 Apr 2008 01:28 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan
Machete - 15 Apr 2008 06:20 GMT A Cardiologist who wasted his life away, sad story.
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan Machete - 15 Apr 2008 05:08 GMT >> > Here, Andy, you'll need a map of the Pacific to >> > get yourself to China: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Label everything in Cyrillic, no sense doing it half-assed. The 10th century version, apparently used to write old church slavonic. Chung should appreciate this although with his ungrateful attitude lately, I should label everything in braille.
Father Haskell - 15 Apr 2008 05:18 GMT > >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Chung should appreciate this although with his ungrateful attitude lately, I > should label everything in braille. In anagram form, to give him something to kill the boredom.
Machete - 15 Apr 2008 06:17 GMT >> >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > In anagram form, to give him something to kill the > boredom. Gee, hopefully he won't get slammed into by some huge ship as he crosses over shipping lanes. Perhaps I should provide some signal flares, the old cheap kind that tend to set your skin and clothes on fire. Hey, this is getting expensive!
Father Haskell - 15 Apr 2008 06:55 GMT > >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Gee, hopefully he won't get slammed into by some huge ship as he crosses > over shipping lanes. Exxon *did* fire Joe Hazelwood.
Didn't they?
> Perhaps I should provide some signal flares, the old > cheap kind that tend to set your skin and clothes on fire. Hey, this is > getting expensive! Andy would be visible for miles if he caught fire. No need for flares.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 15 Apr 2008 10:01 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Foolishsatan
J666 - 15 Apr 2008 16:35 GMT > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Foolishsatan Do not be a fool and order our special Chicken and Egg Recipe Book which has a special section about simple chicken and egg meals when at sea.
Remember, cavier is fish eggs and wonderful (formerly good) for you
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryChickenCoop.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of Chicken ala King http://HeartMDPhD.com/CelestialChicken
In the name of the Chicken, the Chickie and the Fried Egg,
The managament of OAF
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Father Haskell - 16 Apr 2008 20:55 GMT On Apr 15, 5:01 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Foolishsatan That bottle of used sump oil isn't there for cooking.
J666 - 15 Apr 2008 13:10 GMT > Andy would be visible for miles if he caught fire. No > need for flares. Chung flambe?
Father Haskell - 15 Apr 2008 23:27 GMT > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 0:55:11 -0500, Father Haskell wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Chung flambe? The Chung-shaped beacon.
J666 - 15 Apr 2008 23:37 GMT >> Chung flambe? > > The Chung-shaped beacon. Yes, a beacon warning others to stay away
Father Haskell - 15 Apr 2008 23:55 GMT > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:27:42 -0500, Father Haskell wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Yes, a beacon warning others to stay away Food for the seagulls once it cools down.
J666 - 16 Apr 2008 00:01 GMT >> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:27:42 -0500, Father Haskell wrote >> (in message [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Food for the seagulls once it cools down. Deep fried McChungs for the seagulls???
Father Haskell - 16 Apr 2008 00:08 GMT > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:55:39 -0500, Father Haskell wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Deep fried McChungs for the seagulls??? They're not picky. They normally eat garbage.
J666 - 16 Apr 2008 03:47 GMT >>>>>> Chung flambe? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > They're not picky. They normally eat garbage. yes, and this is not different.
As in the saying, garbage ... in garbage out since most of what comes out of Chung is garbage, there must have been a lot of garbage coming in and so must be full of garbage.
Machete - 17 Apr 2008 17:21 GMT >> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:55:39 -0500, Father Haskell wrote >> (in message [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > They're not picky. They normally eat garbage. Birds are creatures of habit, in this case, not much of a change in terms of diet as they normally eat garbage anyway.
J666 - 15 Apr 2008 13:08 GMT > Gee, hopefully he won't get slammed into by some huge ship as he crosses > over shipping lanes. Perhaps I should provide some signal flares, the old > cheap kind that tend to set your skin and clothes on fire. Hey, this is > getting expensive! I am sure the Celestial Chicken will protect Chung so we must EGG Chung on even though Chung's brain may be like scrambled EGGS. So we all need to keep a sunny-side up disposition when dealing with Chung and his upcoming ocean adventure.
Machete - 15 Apr 2008 15:17 GMT >> Gee, hopefully he won't get slammed into by some huge ship as he crosses >> over shipping lanes. Perhaps I should provide some signal flares, the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a sunny-side up disposition when dealing with Chung and his upcoming ocean > adventure. Chung should be getting an MRI of the brain before he emkarks on this journey. My guess is that they will find large amounts of iridium deposits.
J666 - 15 Apr 2008 16:13 GMT > Chung should be getting an MRI of the brain before he emkarks on this > journey. My guess is that they will find large amounts of iridium deposits. Or scrambled eggs
Machete - 16 Apr 2008 00:43 GMT >> Chung should be getting an MRI of the brain before he emkarks on this >> journey. My guess is that they will find large amounts of iridium >> deposits. > > Or scrambled eggs Maybe in the lateral part of the brain.
J666 - 16 Apr 2008 03:50 GMT >>> Chung should be getting an MRI of the brain before he emkarks on this >>> journey. My guess is that they will find large amounts of iridium [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Maybe in the lateral part of the brain. Of course there are those whose brain is hard boiled.
Machete - 16 Apr 2008 04:46 GMT >>>> Chung should be getting an MRI of the brain before he emkarks on this >>>> journey. My guess is that they will find large amounts of iridium [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Of course there are those whose brain is hard boiled. Chung is a good example of someone who truly has a hard head. I suspect a large deposit of iridium in his brain, a very dense element dating back 65 million years. This would explain a lot about Chung's personality.
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