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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / April 2008Software to average blood pressure readings?
My doctor has asked me to take periodic blood pressure readings. I have been amazed by how much it varies -- even for readings that are just 10-15 minutes apart. I did a serarch for blood pressure software and turned up quite a few offerings. Before I download and test these myself, can anyone recommend a program that will let me enter blood pressure readings generate reports or averages so I can see trends? I may be switching BP meds and I'd like to see what effect that has. Thanks It is possible that you are not sitting still, quietly, and comfortably for at least 3 minutes prior to taking your blood pressure measurement. Holding ones breath or having a distended bladder would also transiently elevate blood pressure as would being in pain. Also, the use of a manual cuff for self-measurement may also transiently elevate blood pressure. Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow > My doctor has asked me to take periodic blood pressure readings. I > have been amazed by how much it varies -- even for readings that are [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks Laus Deo http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo >It is possible that you are not sitting still, quietly, and >comfortably for at least 3 minutes prior to taking your blood pressure >measurement. Holding ones breath or having a distended bladder would >also transiently elevate blood pressure as would being in pain. Also, >the use of a manual cuff for self-measurement may also transiently >elevate blood pressure. I think my readings are fairly accurate. I have an Omron HEM-780 BP monitor. It has a option to take three consecutive readings with up to a 2-minute wait in between. It then averages the three readings. I am sitting quietly that whole time. In any case, many sources, including my cardiologist, tell me that BP varies quite a bit even when read correctly. I see several software offerings that will plot the readings and generate reports showing how BP varies during the day and from day to day. I was asking if anyone had any experience with any of them. >Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: > >http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier > >Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Dr. Chung, Prior to posting my question here, I read through some of the recent posts. I see that you have posted a lot in this ng. In every post, there is some religious comment. Many times, there is little else. I am wondering what your objective is. As I see it, there are really only two possibilities: (1) You are trying to do good or (2) You are not. Let's assume that #1. That is, you are a sincere believer who wants to share his beliefs with others for their benefit. Do you realize that your approach is doing more harm than good? Your constant preaching is offensive to many. Do you realize that it is offensive? Do you care? Some will take offense because your style is aggressive and invasive. Some will take offense because this is the wrong place for this. Some will take offense because your beliefs conflict with theirs. In my opinion, religion is a private matter. I respect your beliefs and I ask that you respect mine. By harping on your beliefs in this public forum about cardiology, you are not respecting mine. Your approach is actually hurting your cause. Those who disagree with you will only become more hardened in their disagreement. Witness the number of hostile and caustic responses you get. Those who might be open to your ideas are likely to be put off by the style. I have not seen any replies where the person said that they found your ideas and beliefs interesting and asking for more information. Even those who agree with you are probably uncomfortable with your style. I have not read any posts defending your approach. My point, in short, is this? Are you trying to do good? If so, I suggest that your style is actually hurting your cause. You look insensitive to others and you have become something of a caricature. Of course, if you are not trying to do good, then your approach may be a good one and everythinbg I have said has been a waste of time. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > In any case, many sources, including my cardiologist, tell me that BP > varies quite a bit even when read correctly. In normal people, blood pressure stays quite steady from one moment to the next. > I see several software offerings that will plot the readings and > generate reports showing how BP varies during the day and from day to > day. Would suggest you go with what your doctor recommends. Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow Well, I'm glad to see Chung answered that one so well ;) > Well, I'm glad to see Chung answered that one so well ;) Indeed. I was expecting him to pronounce another "conviction". Lurfy: why not try Excel? http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets >> Well, I'm glad to see Chung answered that one so well ;) > >Indeed. I was expecting him to pronounce another "conviction". > >Lurfy: why not try Excel? I thought of that. I'm not very good at Excel and I haven't ever used any of the analysis or curve-fitting features. Do you have a suggestion for where I might start reading? >>> Well, I'm glad to see Chung answered that one so well ;) >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > any of the analysis or curve-fitting features. Do you have a > suggestion for where I might start reading? No doubt Chung will suggest the Bible since that is where he gets his medical information >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >In normal people, blood pressure stays quite steady from one moment to >the next. I guess I must not be normal. >> I see several software offerings that will plot the readings and >> generate reports showing how BP varies during the day and from day to >> day. > >Would suggest you go with what your doctor recommends. To be sure. >Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Andrew <>< I am wondering why you did not answer my question about what you are trying to accomplish with your preaching? > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > I guess I must not be normal. Normal people do not require the services of a cardiologist. Truth is simple. GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either preach, convince, or argue. Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow > Normal people do not require the services of a cardiologist. And people who do need a cardiologist, want a normal one not one like Chung http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Beatensatan >GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either preach, >convince, or argue. If your purpose is to inform, how are you doing? Suppose we sampled 100 random followers of this ng. How many would be better informed because of your efforts? How many would be less informed or completely turned off? If you love Christ and want to bring people to Him, how are you doing? How many of those 100 people are closer to Christ because of your efforts? How many are actually farther from Christ? Look at the responses you get. Most of them are hostile to you and many are hostile to the Bible, to Christianity, and even to Christ. How can that be good for Christianity? I haven't seen one single response that was favorable to you or to Christianity. Are you making people more open to Christ or more closed? Are you really doing Christ's work or are you driving people away from Christ? Who are you helping more, Christ or satan? If you drive people away from Christ because they hate the messenger, who are you serving? How do you think Christ feels about your work? How many lambs are saved because of your work? How many are lost because they could not stand the messenger? Are you an effective messenger and for which side? > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > >GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either preach, > >convince, or argue. > > If your purpose is to inform, how are you doing? http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren GOD would not have blessed not would HE continue to bless if HE did not approve of my posting what HE has guided me to type here on usenet. Truth is simple. Thus, it remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything I say, do, and write: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ... gone: http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21 A simple parable for the wise and discerning: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Marana tha Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob dear friend God in Heaven wrote > Dear Andy > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Hazy in Heaven Dear God Andrew is one of God's children who is mentally ill and you really need to turn your cheek when dealing with him - I think you should talk to your son, Jesus, about that as he has lots of experience with that. You can never be too old to learn from your children. You also have to realize that Chung also brings much amusement to others on the Internet with his troll-like activities. I certainly hope your web site is not plagued with trolls and spam. One quick question, if I may, that I am ofen asked, but do not know. Do you, God, have a full name or are You like like Madonna or Cher or Charo with only a one word name Andy Landers > Dear God ............. > Do you, God, have a full name or are You like like Madonna or Cher or Charo > with only a one word name > > Andy Landers Dear Andy Yes I only have a one word name. I prefer to use the example of Superman rather than the ones you chose. 1God Approach is the best approach - One God with One name God >> Dear God >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > God Dear Andy Yes the 1GOD Approach is the One way and I have One name and as sport fans cheer "We are number one," so do believers cheer "God is Number One" but my first name is NOT Juan as in Juan God. Please let your readers know. In My Name, God http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan >> Dear God >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > God You must be getting desperate.  Signaturemonkfish > One quick question, if I may, that I am ofen asked, but do not know. > > Do you, God, have a full name or are You like like Madonna or Cher or > Charo with only a one word name > > Andy Landers God still loves you. Signaturemonkfish >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >not approve of my posting what HE has guided me to type here on >usenet. So GOD has approved of your actions? How has HE done that? The polygamists that were just discovered in Texas also say that GOD approved of what they were doing. The Al Qaeda terrorists say that GOD approves when they kill and torture. The Pope said that GOD approved of the Inquisition. Do you agree with these people? >Truth is simple. Sometimes, sometimes not, but not everything that is simple is truth. >Thus, it remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the >Holy Spirit in everything I say, do, and write: And what about my choice? Do you care about that at all? I support your choice to believe whatever you want. I support your choice to have Christian newsgroups where you can discuss theology and salvation or whatever you want to. I would not go to those newsgroups and post hundreds of messages on some other topic. I respect your right to have a place to discuss what you want to. Why do you not have the same respect for me here? >http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit > >May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a >blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus >Christ as the Son of Man ... See, that sounds like you love me and want to help me, but your actions annoy and irritate and disrespect. How many people do you think you have brought closer to Christ as a result of your postings here on cardiology. Whatever that number is, how does it compare to the number you have annoyed and driven farther away. Are you sure you are not a tool of satan? >... by being hungrier: > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love >the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ: How is this different from Al Qaeda? They also predict death and destruction for the infidels. You are calling for their destruction and they are calling for yours. No one can win this battle. Everyone loses. >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Andrew <>< If you are a rational man, please think about what you are doing. From where I stand, it looks like you are doing far more harm than good. You are alienating people. Why would you do that? > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > So GOD has approved of your actions? Yes. > How has HE done that? HE approves whenever we do what HE desires: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Marana tha Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD But you didn't answer the question. How do you (or anyone) know what HE desires? There are lots of other people with other gods all declaring that they are doing what he wants. And you didn't asnwer my other question: Do you care at all about my choice to have a cardiology newsgroup that is not overrun by you (or anyone) posting their beliefs? And, do you care that you are clearly alienating many more people than you are befriending? How can this be Christ's will? You are making enemies. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > But you didn't answer the question. Actually, I did. > How do you (or anyone) know what HE desires? "With man this is impossible, but with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Almighty GOD (Matthew 19:26) Amen. Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >Amen. OK. It's clear that you do not care what effect you are having. Make a note of this: You are hurting the cause of Christianity. You are driving people away. You are contributing to the stereotype that Christianity is riddles with wing nuts who do not care about anything and do not mind disrupting other people's lives. When you get to the Pearly Gates, you are going to have to explain why you were a detriment to the cause. You have been warned. I'm done now. This was a colossal waste of time. Can we report this guy to his ISP as a spammer? >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Can we report this guy to his ISP as a spammer? Just filter him out. Then, filter those who mostly reply to him. If you do that to three of them, you would have a decent newsgroup. Signaturemonkfish >> Can we report this guy to his ISP as a spammer? > > Just filter him out. > Then, filter those who mostly reply to him. > If you do that to three of them, > you would have a decent newsgroup. Lurfys Maw - since only a few respond to monkfish's endless inane questions and endless comments about crossposting which he himself does, he is as much a troll as Chung, so blocking out Chung and Monkfish will take care of your problems - monkfish is trying to out Chung Chung, but he isn't even in the minor leagues as takes no imagination to ask questions. It is funny, that Monkfish thinks he is being so clever and cute, whereas he is really stupid and droll. The laugh is really on him. It is interesting and amusing to see his endless questions when anybody does respond and all his questions to which no one responds - he seems to want any attention at all - any sign that others recognize that he does exist. He stays on this list rather than the other one because is very little original postings and recently one of the ones trying to have a discoruse, gave up and stopped. Like Chung's web site posts, I am sure monkfish, if he does responds, will be with some question about meaning or some derogatory question about me. Best advice is not to feed the trolls like Chung and monkfish, unless you, you like to have some fun at their expense. >>> Can we report this guy to his ISP as a spammer? >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Best advice is not to feed the trolls like Chung and monkfish, unless > you, you like to have some fun at their expense. You don't even understand what crossposting is, do you? Signaturemonkfish >> Best advice is not to feed the trolls like Chung and monkfish, unless >> you, you like to have some fun at their expense. > > You don't even understand what crossposting is, do you? I must have psychic powers because I predicted exactly what was going to happen and it did and also you set it up so that the reponse would only go to ACT which no one reads. I suppose the question is are you that stupid to think you are being intelligent with your questions or are you just troll trying to compete with Chung. For your sake, I hope it is the latter and not the former. >>> Best advice is not to feed the trolls like Chung and monkfish, unless >>> you, you like to have some fun at their expense. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > intelligent with your questions or are you just troll trying to compete > with Chung. For your sake, I hope it is the latter and not the former. You are still clueless about crossposting. I'm trying to understand God better here. I'm willing to do so all by myself. You are not welcome here unless you are serious about God. Now, go away, dear. Signaturemonkfish > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > OK. Simply the truth. "I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 14:6) Amen. > It's clear that you do not care what effect you are having. It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything I say, do, and write. > Make a note of this: You are hurting the cause of Christianity. Christianity is not a cause but rather a personal relationship with the risen LORD Jesus Christ. > You are driving people away. Not for the discerning. > You are contributing to the stereotype that > Christianity is riddles with wing nuts who do not care about anything > and do not mind disrupting other people's lives. Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes). > When you get to the > Pearly Gates, you are going to have to explain why you were a > detriment to the cause. It remains wiser to continue to strive for HIS commendation: "Well done my good and faithful servant." -- LORD Almighty GOD Amen. > You have been warned. "Fear not those who can harm the body and do nothing more. Fear HIM who can destroy both body and soul." -- LORD Jesus Christ. Amen. And so we, who are Jesus' brethren, reverently fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world: http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought > I'm done now. This was a colossal waste of time. GOD is the Source of all time and provides all that is needed for the good work HE planned in advance for HIS children to do. > Can we report this guy to his ISP as a spammer? If you wish to bear false witness thereby breaking one of GOD's commandments, you have the free will to unwisely choose to earn HIS condemnation through the commission of such sin.. "The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit. Amen. Indeed, even just having such thoughts is sin and simply shows that you are among the lost: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheLost The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more special... ... we are simply forgiven by GOD: http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/ May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:" http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc17@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message.... ^^^^^^^^ I notice Andrew starts calling people "neighbor" right before he convicts them. Why is that, Andrew? http://HeartMDPhD.com/Wimpsatan > I notice Andrew starts calling people "neighbor" right before he convicts > them. Why is that, Andrew? Like Casper, Chung sometimes is the friendly Ghost http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan http://HeartMDPhD.com/Casper/FriendlyGhost http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet >> I notice Andrew starts calling people "neighbor" right before he convicts >> them. Why is that, Andrew? > > Like Casper, Chung sometimes is the friendly Ghost Could be anything but I think it could be Chung's cryptic way of warning posters who are pissing him off that he's about to convict. But given that Chung is intellectually a dead man walking who's incapable of coherent thought we'll never know for sure. http://HeartMDPhD.com/DumbSockPuppets >>> I notice Andrew starts calling people "neighbor" right before he >>> convicts them. Why is that, Andrew? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that Chung is intellectually a dead man walking who's incapable of > coherent thought we'll never know for sure. That's a good start. You heard about God, but you don't know what God is yet. Do you at least know what health is? How do you prove that health even exists? Signaturemonkfish >>>> I notice Andrew starts calling people "neighbor" right before he >>>> convicts them. Why is that, Andrew? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You heard about God, > but you don't know what God is yet. Your god is just a figment of your diseased imagination. > Do you at least know what health is? > How do you prove that health even exists? Go f.ck yourself you smug pseudo-socratic c.nt. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/FoamMouthsatan <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren > If you are a rational man, please think about what you are doing. Bingo - that is the problem - he is not a rational man and therefore will get no rational responses. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Defeatssatan |
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