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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / April 2008Daily Spirit-guided thought for 03/31/08.
http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com/104335.html May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ... gone: http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21 A simple parable for the wise and discerning: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow On Mar 31, 4:18 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com/104335.html > > May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful > 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jes <snip rubbish> There are numerous examples in the world's various religions of claims of virgin birth for god's and sub gods. The Greek demigod Perseus was born when Jupiter visited the virgin Danae as a shower of gold and impregnated her. Buddha was born through an opening in his mother's flank. The Aztec god Huyitzilopochtli was fathered by a little ball of feathers sent down from the sky by some pre-existing god. Genghis Khan's Virgin mother was impregnated by being bathed in a light one night. Krishna was born of the Virgin Devaka. The Egyptian god Horus had the virgin Isis as his mother. The god Mercury was birthed by the Virgin Maia. Romulus was born of the Virgin Rhea Silvia. Religion is often against advances in medicine and technology. Christian preachers opposed Ben Franklin's invention of the lightning rod because they thought it was thwarting god's will to send down lightning bolts on sinners. In the early 1800s, when inoculations were just being developed, Catholics were forbidden to get them while Protestants were being saved from disease. In recent times, fundamentalist Muslim clerics have been telling people that polio vaccines are an American plot to sterilize them. Christian and Muslim clerics are often opposed to the use of condoms. Recently in the U. S., mass vaccinations for the prevention of HPV, which is a sexually transmitted infection that can lead to cervical cancer in women, have been stopped due to complaints from Christian fundamentalists that it would encourage sexual activity. The Bush administration opposed funding family planning in condom distribution in Third World African countries, where AIDS is rampant. Various religions have some medical proceudres of their own. In Judaism, the Old Testament sets forth the procedure for circumcision of male infants by have a rabii "mohel" cut and orally suck the foreskin off the male member -- a disgusting unhealthy procedure with disturbing implications. It is not a practice relegated to the distant past. In 2005, Jewish NY City mayor Michael Bloomberg stopped the city's health authorities from banning the procedure, after it casued a babie's death. His grounds for inaction were based on "religious freedom". In some parts of Muslim Africa, young girls are subjected to a form of circumcision in which parts of the labia and the clitoris are sliced off. In United States, adherence of the Christian Scientist sect are sometimes brought up on legal charges for denying medical care to their children. Adherence of the Jehovah witnesses sect refused permission for their children to receive blood transfusions. Bizarre religious behavior extends to the treatment of young females. The Shia fundamentalists in Iran consider the age of consent for females to be nine years old. The Mormon sect has a long history of marrying under age girls to older men who already may have a number of wives. In India, Hindu girl brides may wind up being burned if their dowry is too small. The Catholic Church in America, has in recent years been forced to admit the existence of, and compensate victims of pedophilia carried out by its priests, which the church as an organization facilitated over the decades and centuries, by denying the guilt of, and covering up for, the perpetrators. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Flounderingsatan On Mar 31, 4:39 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Flounderingsatan Yes, I agree Andrew - you have been floundering publicly for a long time now. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan http://HeartMDPhD.com/Castrated_Jesus On Mar 31, 4:54 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan http://HeartMDPhD.com/WitlessChungDemon http://HeartMDPhD.com/Flailingsatan On Mar 31, 5:31 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > http://HeartMDPhD.com/FlailingChungDemon False Prophets [ Jesus preached a new version of religion, and has since become a god himself to Christians. People often pray to "Jesus", and that is proof he is regarded as a separate entity from God. Here's what God has to say about that and what should have been done to Jesus and what should be done to Jesus' followers: ] Deuteronomy 13 13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee. 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (13:6-10) 13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you. 13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, 13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; (13:12-17) [ If you hear of a city where another god is worshiped, then kill everyone in the city. By this passage, the State of Israel should be engaged in war with the rest of the world and should tolerate no other religions within its borders. ] 13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. 13:16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. 13:17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers; 13:18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan http://HeartMDPhD.com/DumbassChung On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan The fact that this is the best you can reply to being shown up as a dunce, says it all.... Again: False Prophets [ Jesus preached a new version of religion, and has since become a god himself to Christians. People often pray to "Jesus", and that is proof he is regarded as a separate entity from God. Here's what God has to say about that and what should have been done to Jesus and what should be done to Jesus' followers: ] Deuteronomy 13 13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee. 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (13:6-10) 13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you. 13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, 13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; (13:12-17) [ If you hear of a city where another god is worshiped, then kill everyone in the city. By this passage, the State of Israel should be engaged in war with the rest of the world and should tolerate no other religions within its borders. ] 13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. 13:16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. 13:17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers; 13:18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Flounderingsatan On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan > >The fact that this is the best you can reply to being shown up as a >dunce, says it all.... >Again: False Prophets > Jesus preached a new version of religion, and has since become a god himself to Christians. People often pray to "Jesus", and that is proof he is regarded as a separate entity from God. Here's what God has to say about that and what should have been done to Jesus and what should`be done to Jesus' followers: Deuteronomy 13 LOL Are you a Jew then, that you should use Judaism to trash Christianity? What else is new? See below what Jesus Himself has to say about Him being God. Pastor Frank "GOD" THE CHRISTIAN MEANING OF THE WORD ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE: The word "God" is not a proper name but a title of a position of whatever is your standard of virtue and ideal of perfection against which you measure all behaviour. (Jesus in Matthew. 5:48) I.e. In 2 Corinthians 4:4, Paul says that Satan is: "...the god (theos) of this world", i.e. reality. And again in Philippians 3:19, Paul says there are people: "...whose God (theos) is their belly", i.e. gratification, pleasure. Also, Jesus speaks of mammon being a god or devil, representing the greed for possessions, money and power. (Mt:6:24:) Jesus tells us in Jn:4:24 that His "GOD IS A SPIRIT", (i.e. akin to a quality of attitude, like love and care which imbues a person), and "they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." Jesus explains further in John 14:6-10: Jesus saith unto him: "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also, and from henceforth YE KNOW HIM AND HAVE SEEN HIM." Philip saith unto him: "Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us." Jesus saith unto him: "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then: Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself, but the FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME, HE DOETH THE WORKS." Jesus in Jn:10:30: I and my Father are one. Jesus in John 12:44-46`Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in me, believes not in me but in Him who sent me. And he who sees me sees Him who sent Me. I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in me should not abide in darkness." Jesus in Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The kingdom of God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN YOU." 1Jn:4:8: He that LOVETH not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE. 1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the LOVE that God hath to us. GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in LOVE dwelleth in God, and God in him. Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye LOVE one another; as I have LOVED you, that ye also LOVE one another. Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have LOVE one to another. Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye LOVE one another, as I have LOVED you. Greater LOVE hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Acts:17:28: For in Him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also His offspring. Proverbs 10:22 God is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most secret thoughts. Heb:1:8: But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. > LOL Are you a Jew then, that you should use Judaism to trash > Christianity? What else is new? See below what Jesus Himself has to say > about Him being God. Well another prayer not answered - two down, one to go to see if prayer works. >> LOL Are you a Jew then, that you should use Judaism to trash >> Christianity? What else is new? See below what Jesus Himself has to say >> about Him being God. > > Well another prayer not answered - two down, one to go to see if prayer > works. Thanks for evidencing your god so well. Your god or devil's name is Non Sequitur. > On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Pastor Frank Dumbass. You don't know what jesus said about much of anything. All you're doing is quoting marketing books that were written decades after his supposed death. The stories were passed around by word of mouth and in varying languages before they were written down, then underwent more editing and mistranslation. The NT books contradict each other over important issues. Even Jesus's birth is a made-up story. When the Gospels were written many years after Jesus's death, nobody knew where he had been born. An Old Testament prophecy Micah 5: 2 said to expect that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. In the light of this prophecy John's Gospel specifically remarks that his followers were surprised that he was not born in Bethlehem, but came out of Galilee. The Gospels of Matthew and Luke handle this problem differently. They decide that Jesus must have been born in Bethlehem after all. But they get him there by different routes. Matthew has Mary and Joseph in Bethlehem all along, moving to Nazareth only long after the birth of Jesus, on their return from Egypt where they fled from King Herod. Luke on the other hand, acknowledges that Mary and Joseph lived in Nazareth before Jesus was born. So how to get them to Bethlehem at the crucial moment in order to to fulfill the prophecy? Luke says that Caesar Augustus decreed a census for taxation purposes, and everybody had to go to his own home city. And, that Joseph was out of the house and linage of David and therefore had to go to the city of David which is called Bethlehem. That's the story, even though David had lived a thousand years before. Other Gospels have their share of implausible stories. The Gospel of Thomas has numerous anecdotes about the child Jesus abusing his magical powers: transforming his playmates into goats, or turning mud into sparrows; or giving his father assistance by lengthening a piece of wood. Bottm line - it's all made up for fools, and there's never been any shortage of them. <snip rubbish> >> On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: >>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > <snip rubbish> Believe it or not, contradictions in the gospels make the underlying story more believable.  Signaturemonkfish > >> "J A" <jantero...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > > <snip rubbish> > Believe it or not, > contradictions in the gospels make > the underlying story more believable. No they don't. You're one of those people who talk without saying anything. >>>> On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: >>>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > You're one of those people who talk without saying anything. Reality is not that easy to comprehend through your flat reasoning. Signaturemonkfish > >>>> On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > >>>>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > Reality is not that easy to comprehend > through your flat reasoning. Passive-aggressive personality disorder is a personality disorder said to be marked by a pervasive pattern of negative attitudes and passive, usually disavowed resistance in interpersonal or occupational situations. It was listed as an Axis II personality disorder in the DSM-III-R, but was moved in the DSM-IV to Appendix B. >>>>>> On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: >>>>>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > situations. It was listed as an Axis II personality disorder in the > DSM-III-R, but was moved in the DSM-IV to Appendix B. That sounds just like you! Signaturemonkfish > >>>>>> On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > That sounds just like you! I think everybody knows who it sounds like. >>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > I think everybody knows who it sounds like. Gee, you must have something else as well. Whatever you do, stop taunting people you are presuming to be mentally ill. That's just too unseemly. Signaturemonkfish > >>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > -- > monkfish Taunt, taunt. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Defeatssatan >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > Taunt, taunt. I don't presume you to be mentally ill. Are you? Signaturemonkfish > >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2:24 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > I don't presume you to be mentally ill. > Are you? Hint: I don't believe in supernatural beings - you and your soulmate chung, do. satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:: > > I don't presume you to be mentally ill. > > Are you? > > Hint: I don't believe in supernatural beings Indeed, you believe only in yourself, an unnatural inferior being: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Insanesatan However, mental illness arises from false beliefs such as yours rather than from true beliefs such believing in LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/JesusChrist May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to rebuke you at each GOD- given opportunity as GOD desires: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan <>< May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ... gone: http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21 A simple parable for the wise and discerning: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow > Indeed, you believe only in yourself, an unnatural inferior being: > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Insanesatan Are you taunting someone who you feel is insane - you will incur the inane wrath of monkfish http://HeartMDPhD.com/Wailingsatan > Believe it or not, > contradictions in the gospels make > the underlying story more believable. And so do math books which say one plus one is three and science boos which say the world is flat make them more believable >> Believe it or not, >> contradictions in the gospels make >> the underlying story more believable. > > And so do math books which say one plus one is three and science boos which > say the world is flat make them more believable Read some philosophy of science or history of science. Science develops by disproving preciously accepted theories. Signaturemonkfish >> And so do math books which say one plus one is three and science boos >> which [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Science develops by disproving > preciously accepted theories. Yes science does. But as science does, the newer books no longer present those theories which are disproved (unless mentioned in an historical sense) and no one uses the older versions to teach. There are differences between theories and known facts and yet we are told the every word of the Bible are "Biblical facts" and not "Bibical theories" even though these "Biblical facts" conflict. In science, you cannot accept that one plus one is both two and three, but in the Bible we are expected to believe both conflicting things are true. > On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 0:21:41 -0500, monkfish > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > In science, you cannot accept that one plus one is both two and three, but in > the Bible we are expected to believe both conflicting things are true. There are certain things very difficult to be comprehended logically. Love must be one of them. For some, life must be one of them. Do you actually follow the development of any science? Signaturemonkfish > There are certain things > very difficult to be comprehended logically. > Love must be one of them. > For some, life must be one of them. I actually do understand life and do not need one of the many faiths and or religious beliefs to understand it as you do. Better to think with your eyes open than blindly believe. I'll pick the former and leave the latter to you, Chung and Pastor Frank. >> There are certain things >> very difficult to be comprehended logically. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Better to think with your eyes open than blindly believe. I'll pick the > former and leave the latter to you, Chung and Pastor Frank. Do you even know for sure that you will live for another day? Signaturemonkfish > Do you even know for sure > that you will live for another day? > > -- > monkfish Even you cannot be that dumb with your question - but, seeing many of your other inane questions, maybe you are. Maybe it is better for you to base your life on faith rather than thinking. >> Do you even know for sure >> that you will live for another day? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > your other inane questions, maybe you are. Maybe it is better for you > to base your life on faith rather than thinking. I heard that people get angry whenever they are reminded of their mortality, even subconsciously. How good are you at statistics? What is the chance of you getting neurosis? Signaturemonkfish >> Do you even know for sure >> that you will live for another day? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > your other inane questions, maybe you are. Maybe it is better for you > to base your life on faith rather than thinking. The other possibilty is that he could be a troll and/or that dumb. Either way hard to take him seriously. > On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 9:19:18 -0500, mortonmull...@hotmail.com wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The other possibilty is that he could be a troll and/or that dumb. Either way > hard to take him seriously. This guy is a textbook passive-aggressive. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan On Apr 4, 11:58 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan Chunkers, your supernatural beings are just a product of your malfuctioning brain. GOD ON THE BRAIN Reviews the book 'Why God Won't Go Away: Science and the Biology of Belief,' by Andrew Newberg, Eugene D'Aquili and Vince Rause. By: Michael Shermer, Paul Chance Andrew Newberg, M.D., Eugene D'Aquili, M.D., and Vince Rause (Ballantine Books, 2001) Reviewed by Michael Shermer, Ph.D. God is puzzling. According to the Oxford World Christian Encyclopedia, there are no fewer than 10,000 distinct religions worldwide, with a total of 5.1 billion adherents. The quantity and diversity of beliefs means that something is going on here that cries out for explanation. That explanation, say Andrew Newberg, M.D., and his late colleague Eugene D'Aquili, M.D., both affiliated with the University of Pennsylvania and pioneers in the neurological research of religion, is to be found in the brain. We are, they say, wired for God. To understand this wiring Newberg and D'Aquili studied Buddhist monks as they meditated and Franciscan nuns during prayer. When their subjects slipped into an altered state of consciousness, the scientists injected them with a radioactive substance and then tracked the changing activity of their brains. The researchers did this with Single Photon-Emission Computed Tomography, or SPECT, a device similar to the more familiar CAT and PET scan machines. The most dramatic finding in the book, primarily (and admirably) written by journalist Vince Rause, concerns a portion of the brain the authors call the orientation association area (OAA). The OAA, say Newberg and D'Aquili, is largely responsible for helping us distinguish between ourselves and other things. People with damage to this part of the brain have problems navigating their way around a room: They actually cannot discriminate between their bodies and the furniture. The researchers discovered that during meditation and prayer, at the moment when the monks were at one with the universe and the nuns felt the presence of a universal spirit, there was reduced activity in the OAA. Like patients with damage to this brain area, their selves became indistinguishable from their nonselves. From these findings the authors conclude "that spiritual experience, at its very root, is intimately interwoven with human biology. That biology, in some way, compels the spiritual urge." http://HeartMDPhD.com/Flounderingsatan is still http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan forevermore http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega without doubt http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/ProofByGOD <>< May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ... gone: http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21 A simple parable for the wise and discerning: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow On Apr 5, 9:34 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: <snip> Another non-answer from chung, floundering chung... > On Apr 5, 9:34 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > > <snip> > > Another non-answer from chung, floundering chung... Still taunting people presumed by you to be mentally ill? Signaturemonkfish > > On Apr 5, 9:34 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > monkfish Taunt taunt. >>> On Apr 5, 9:34 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >>> <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Taunt taunt. Are you mentally ill by any chance? Signaturemonkfish > >> Believe it or not, > >> contradictions in the gospels make [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Science develops by disproving > preciously accepted theories. Actually, science advances by replacing previous theories with more inclusive ones. The explanatory power of the previous theory is a subset of the explanatory power of the newer one. And generally the older theory stays viable for most purposes. Newtonian dynamics is still useful. Valence bond theory is still useful. Quantum uncertainty may be safely ignored in most circumstances. Continental drift may be safely ignored most circumstances. And you really don't have to worry about a croquet ball going through two different wickets simultaneously. -- cary >>>> Believe it or not, >>>> contradictions in the gospels make [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > -- cary Ideally but not always. Not even usually outside physics I suspect. Have they proven the validity of the scientific method, yet? They better do so before we exterminate ourselves using the scientific method. Signaturemonkfish > >>>> Believe it or not, > >>>> contradictions in the gospels make [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Not even usually > outside physics I suspect. Well, two of my five examples were outside physics. But you are welcome to raise counter-examples. > Have they proven the validity > of the scientific method, yet? Pudding. -- cary > They better do so > before we exterminate ourselves > using the scientific method. >>>>>> Believe it or not, >>>>>> contradictions in the gospels make [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > But you are welcome to raise counter-examples. To be more to the point, I bet theology advances the same way. That's probably why we have now God as the ultimate point of reference. Can you think of anything more inclusive? Signaturemonkfish > Have they proven the validity > of the scientific method, yet? Wonder if using science that one could ever "prove" that the Shroud of Turin was from at least Jesus's time and not later as it now seems, if all the non-believers in the scientific method would accept the finding whereas they do not accept others. >> Have they proven the validity >> of the scientific method, yet? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > non-believers in the scientific method would accept the finding whereas they > do not accept others. Will science ever help us to love each other? Signaturemonkfish > Believe it or not, > contradictions in the gospels make > the underlying story more believable. It helps to have a heart made discerning by the Holy Spirit in order to go from believing to knowing that there are no contradictions but rather differing perspectives . May you and other dear friends, brethren, and neighbors have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ... gone: http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21 A simple parable for the wise and discerning: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow > > Believe it or not, > > contradictions in the gospels make [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to go from believing to knowing that there are no contradictions but > rather differing perspectives . For example, why don't you tell friend monkfish about Jesus' chromosomes and the two distinct geneologies in the Gospels? I ask you to do this because I'm curious to see if monkfish has a sense of humor. -- cary > May you and other dear friends, brethren, and neighbors have a > blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow >>> Believe it or not, >>> contradictions in the gospels make [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I ask you to do this because I'm curious to see > if monkfish has a sense of humor. Don't believe everything you think you read. What is your favorite joke of Jesus? Signaturemonkfish > >>> Believe it or not, > >>> contradictions in the gospels make [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I ask you to do this because I'm curious to see > > if monkfish has a sense of humor. > Don't believe everything you think you read. What, you think someone has been forging posts in Andrew's name? You know, that's sweet. In fact I think that's one of the kindest things anyone has said regarding Andrew in a long, long time. But back to the topic at hand, judge for yourself. (skip down to `conflicting genealogies', and mind you don't overlook the "time travel" bit): http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/94d3440501bca0fb?dmode=source If that amuses you, you can read the entire screenplay at: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_frm/thread/8e827c7062ab db83/70b8c3377a701007?lnk=st&q=#70b8c3377a701007 --cary > What is your favorite joke of Jesus? > Don't believe everything you think you read. Reading the Bible requires not thinking and you are right in not believing everything you read in the Bible. If science could prove and disprove different things in the Bible, would you accept both conclusions or only those which agreed with what you already thought? http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan >> Don't believe everything you think you read. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > accept both conclusions or only those which agreed with what you already > thought? What does your blind faith say? Signaturemonkfish > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Jesus' chromosomes and the two distinct geneologies > in the Gospels? There is not a need for him to know. If there were, he would be moved to ask about it. > I ask you to do this because I'm curious to see > if monkfish has a sense of humor. Neither geneologies nor chromosomal genetics are humorous topics. Moreover, the state of your perishing soul is not a laughing matter either. May we, who are Christians, continue to pray for you: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForCary Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > There is not a need for him to know. If there were, he would be moved > to ask about it. OK, OK, I'll do it for you. But I exepct you to appreciate it. > > I ask you to do this because I'm curious to see > > if monkfish has a sense of humor. > > Neither geneologies nor chromosomal genetics are humorous topics. But your explanations can uproarious. > Moreover, the state of your perishing soul is not a laughing matter > either. If it were, it might not be. Or it might. -- cary > May we, who are Christians, continue to pray for you: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow http://HeartMDPhD.com/AttentionSeekingCary > But your explanations can uproarious. Yes, they are some of the best laughs which are a pleasant change from the usual repetitive troll-droll. Some of Pastor Frank's and a few of monkfish's are too. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan http://HeartMDPhD.com/Soul_Of_Flounder |
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