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Sanity's Little Helper - 30 Mar 2008 09:56 GMT
monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in
news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on
29 Mar 2008:

> Sanity's Little Helper wrote:
>> oxtail <oxtail@nowhere> wrote in
>> news:LrGdnVKJS7bo5HPanZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology
>> on 29 Mar 2008:
>>
>>> What does it mean for you to exist?
>>
>> That's for me to know, and those I give a sh.t about, or who give a
>> sh.t about me to find out.
>>
>>> What does it mean for money to exist?
>>
>> More freedom, up to a point. I've never had more than enough.
>>
>>> What does it mean for love to exist?
>>
>> It's a vital dimension of what defines who we are.
>>
>>> What does it mean for God to exist?
>>
>> Absolutely nothing. Quite categorically, God doesn't exist, and I
>> have never come across anybody in 52 years who can give me an honest
>> and coherent account of why they claim that they believe God does
>> exist.
>
> For the last time,
> God is the ground of all being.
> God is much much more than
> something that can only exist
> in time and space.
>
> Whether you can comprehend that or not
> is your problem.
>
> What is philosophy?
> Does it even exist?
> Does it even make sense?
>
> Actually it's philosophy
> that makes sense out of
> all scientific facts and theories.
>
> What is God?
> Does it even exist?
> Does it even make sense?
>
> Actually it's God
> that makes sense out of everything.
> God is the ultimate point of reference
> for all meaning.
>
> If you wanna get by without its help,
> be my guest.
>  

God is a drug you're too scared to go cold turkey from. Don't try to make
out it's anybody else's problem.

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Lord Mayor of Dis
Lawful copyright holder of the term "Earthquack".
Holder of rights to the stage musical "The Shining".

Not authentic without this signature.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2008 11:57 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Whinersatan

is still

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan

forevermore

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Sanity's Little Helper - 30 Mar 2008 12:28 GMT
sci.med.cardiology on 30 Mar 2008:

> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Whinersatan

Earthquack! :-)

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David Silverman D.B.E.
BAAWA
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis
Lawful copyright holder of the term "Earthquack".
Holder of rights to the stage musical "The Shining".

Not authentic without this signature.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2008 12:32 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet

of

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan

who remains

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan

forevermore

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan - 30 Mar 2008 23:55 GMT
> It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
> forever ...

Thessalonians?  I thought they were a type of flower, very much like
chrysanthemums and also a member of the asteraceae family.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2008 00:45 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet
Machete - 30 Mar 2008 12:48 GMT
> monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in
> news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> God is a drug you're too scared to go cold turkey from. Don't try to make
> out it's anybody else's problem.

I can dig it man but there are some decent people out there who are
Christians, not all of them (even 99 percent of them) are remotely like
Chung.  I mean, I'd hate to put my parents in that catagory, they don't
stalk people on the usenet, hit anyone over the head with a Bible or call
people "Satan" just because they don't believe in the same God, or any God
for that matter.  They are pretty liberal people really.  I'm pretty much
cool with anyone, whatever they choose as a higher power (or lack there of.)
So, my problem is not with God, Christianity or anything spiritual, it's
with Chung.  Seperate the two, not meaning the poster but anyone who is into
the "I hate all Christians because of Chung mode.)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2008 12:59 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets

of

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Crazysatan

who remains

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan

forevermore

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
monkfish - 30 Mar 2008 21:16 GMT
>> monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in
>> news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on
[quoted text clipped - 64 lines]
> with Chung.  Seperate the two, not meaning the poster but anyone who is into
> the "I hate all Christians because of Chung mode.)

Even most Christians seem to live
without referring to God
most of the time.

What does it mean to have God
as the ultimate point of reference?

What do atheists have
as the ultimate point of reference?

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monkfish

J666 - 30 Mar 2008 22:00 GMT
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:16:21 -0500, monkfish who is still here carries on as
usual with questions

> Even most Christians seem to live
> without referring to God
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> What do atheists have
> as the ultimate point of reference?

I thought you were removing SMC from your headers.  I see you have decided to
keep posting on SMC

I have a question - since you send it as a reply to only ACT, why even send
it here.  Are your drumming up business for the other group -  in ACT it
seems most of the posts are ones mainly posted here and posted there also.  
So maybe nobody really cares about christnet theology and views it like
astrology.

Will be interesting to see if anyone on SMC really cares about what you say
or will answer your sophmoric pseudo-Socratic attempts at question.

For posts sent to SMC, remember to include SMC in your reply.
monkfish - 30 Mar 2008 22:46 GMT
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:16:21 -0500, monkfish who is still here carries on as
> usual with questions
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> For posts sent to SMC, remember to include SMC in your reply.

I'm not even subscribed to SMC, dear.

Are you going to stop crossposting
so much anytime soon?
It's YOUR responsibility to remove
newsgroups from the header
if you don't intent to follow up.

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monkfish

J666 - 30 Mar 2008 23:12 GMT
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:46:19 -0500, the saga of monkfish continues

> I'm not even subscribed to SMC, dear.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> newsgroups from the header
> if you don't intent to follow up.

Until YOU started posting on SMC I did not even know you existed and so all
you have to do is to stop posting on SMC and your problem is solved.

Since you post here but have a reply only to ACT it does seem like you do not
want anyone on SMC to see my response.

That is an attempt at censorship of what is posted here.  

You said nobody cares what I say on SMC,  but yet you do not want me to
respond to this here - hmmm ... wonder why if nobody cares what I say.  I
will work on a Socratic question as a way to respond.

Remember - when posted to SMC, reply to SMC even if not set up that way by
the poster - we do not want censorship - if we do, I nominate Chung to be
censored first.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2008 23:30 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan

is still

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan

forevermore

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega

<><

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Smiler - 31 Mar 2008 04:58 GMT
>> monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in
>> news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on
[quoted text clipped - 67 lines]
> it's with Chung.  Seperate the two, not meaning the poster but anyone who
> is into the "I hate all Christians because of Chung mode.)

The emotion I feel for Chung is not hate.
He would be deserving of pity, if he would only recognise that his actions
are those of someone with a severe mental disorder.
Until he does that, derision is the only thing he seems to understand.

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
Machete - 31 Mar 2008 05:58 GMT
>>> monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in
>>> news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on
[quoted text clipped - 77 lines]
> The godless one
> a.a.# 2279

Remember though, unlike most victims of mental illness, Chung has a giant
ego that tells him he doesn't have a problem, we all do.  Most people who
are mentally ill do not hold the title of "doctor" which makes the situation
even more disconcerting.  Lastly, Chung sees this as his group, he will
never leave despite the best efforts of many.  Evidently, ISP's are not
holding people accountable anymore for their abusive behavior.  Back in the
90's, accounts got nuked on a regular basis, now, I guess they need the
business.  Chung knows damn well this is not a group in which discussions
about religion are remotely appropriate, alas, he continues to aggravate and
ignore the masses who want him to post on topic material, or leave the
group.  In the end, it's probably a losing battle, but I certainly take
pleasure in the fact that Chung has to spend 20 hours a day to run "his
group."  Eventually, it will catch up with him, although it may take a
while.

Pass the Thorazine please, otherwise Chung will be up until 6am again, like
he is every other night.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2008 07:37 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet

of

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan

who remains

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan

forevermore

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
monkfish - 31 Mar 2008 15:45 GMT
>>>> monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in
>>>> news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on
[quoted text clipped - 91 lines]
> Pass the Thorazine please, otherwise Chung will be up until 6am again, like
> he is every other night.

You can simply ignore him
or even filter him out.

He does post on topic sometimes,
however peculiar his view might be.

Signature

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2008 15:55 GMT
> You can simply ignore him
> or even filter him out.

The creatures of darkness are simply unable to ignore the light of the
truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, in the hearts of HIS disciples:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Proof

> He does post on topic sometimes,
> however peculiar his view might be.

The truth seems peculiar to those who do not really know HIM.

May you and other dear friends, brethren, and neighbors have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
J666 - 31 Mar 2008 16:05 GMT
> The creatures of darkness are simply unable to ignore the light of the
> truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, in the hearts of HIS disciples:

Chung's "light of truth" is a "BLACK light of truth"

Will await one of Chung's usual BLACK posts
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2008 16:33 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Flounderingsatan
Machete - 01 Apr 2008 08:24 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Flounderingsatan

http://dunderheadedflounderingwanger/nopatients/nopractice/nolife.Chung
Machete - 01 Apr 2008 08:23 GMT
>> You can simply ignore him
>> or even filter him out.
>
> The creatures of darkness are simply unable to ignore the light of the
> truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, in the hearts of HIS disciples:

You are spinning out of control Wanger, there are no demons in this
newsgroup, just individuals who simply don't agree with your heavy-handed
approach and judgemental behavior.  You are in no position to judge anyone,
in doing so, you contradict your claim as a disciple/prophet.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2008 10:17 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan
Mike Mordant - 01 Apr 2008 14:07 GMT
On Apr 1, 4:17 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan

Weak attempt to silence people who challenge your nonsense.
J666 - 01 Apr 2008 14:36 GMT
> Weak attempt to silence people who challenge your nonsense.

But it is Chung's consistent response which loses all meaning because it is
automatic.  

Chung's jerk-reflex does not any thought.

Actually Chung's are really a junk-reflex which also do not require thinking
and have no sane thought behind them.
Pastor Frank - 02 Apr 2008 20:01 GMT
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 8:07:39 -0500, Mike Mordant
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> thinking
> and have no sane thought behind them.

   Talking like that, all you do is prove yourself perceptually and
philosophically challenged. Nothing you say shows any sign of "thinking" or
"sane thought".
J666 - 02 Apr 2008 21:05 GMT
>     Talking like that, all you do is prove yourself perceptually and
> philosophically challenged. Nothing you say shows any sign of "thinking" or
> "sane thought".

ROFLOL

Your statement is a dictionary example of the saying:
"The Pot Calling The Kettle Black"

And the really funny thing, is that you do not even realize that.

Once again your own words show the idiocy of what you say far better than
anyone else could.  I can hardly wait for your response.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 03 Apr 2008 04:21 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet
Pastor Frank - 05 Apr 2008 20:35 GMT
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:01:46 -0500, Pastor Frank
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Once again your own words show the idiocy of what you say far better than
> anyone else could.  I can hardly wait for your response.

   Thanks for proving my point.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 06 Apr 2008 22:51 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels
 
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