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Sanity's Little Helper - 30 Mar 2008 09:56 GMT monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on 29 Mar 2008:
> Sanity's Little Helper wrote: >> oxtail <oxtail@nowhere> wrote in >> news:LrGdnVKJS7bo5HPanZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology >> on 29 Mar 2008: >> >>> What does it mean for you to exist? >> >> That's for me to know, and those I give a sh.t about, or who give a >> sh.t about me to find out. >> >>> What does it mean for money to exist? >> >> More freedom, up to a point. I've never had more than enough. >> >>> What does it mean for love to exist? >> >> It's a vital dimension of what defines who we are. >> >>> What does it mean for God to exist? >> >> Absolutely nothing. Quite categorically, God doesn't exist, and I >> have never come across anybody in 52 years who can give me an honest >> and coherent account of why they claim that they believe God does >> exist. > > For the last time, > God is the ground of all being. > God is much much more than > something that can only exist > in time and space. > > Whether you can comprehend that or not > is your problem. > > What is philosophy? > Does it even exist? > Does it even make sense? > > Actually it's philosophy > that makes sense out of > all scientific facts and theories. > > What is God? > Does it even exist? > Does it even make sense? > > Actually it's God > that makes sense out of everything. > God is the ultimate point of reference > for all meaning. > > If you wanna get by without its help, > be my guest. > God is a drug you're too scared to go cold turkey from. Don't try to make out it's anybody else's problem.
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Not authentic without this signature.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2008 11:57 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Whinersatan
is still
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
forevermore
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Sanity's Little Helper - 30 Mar 2008 12:28 GMT sci.med.cardiology on 30 Mar 2008:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Whinersatan Earthquack! :-)
 Signature David Silverman D.B.E. BAAWA aa #2208 Lord Mayor of Dis Lawful copyright holder of the term "Earthquack". Holder of rights to the stage musical "The Shining".
Not authentic without this signature.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2008 12:32 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet
of
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan
who remains
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
forevermore
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan - 30 Mar 2008 23:55 GMT > It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) > forever ... Thessalonians? I thought they were a type of flower, very much like chrysanthemums and also a member of the asteraceae family.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2008 00:45 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet
Machete - 30 Mar 2008 12:48 GMT > monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in > news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > God is a drug you're too scared to go cold turkey from. Don't try to make > out it's anybody else's problem. I can dig it man but there are some decent people out there who are Christians, not all of them (even 99 percent of them) are remotely like Chung. I mean, I'd hate to put my parents in that catagory, they don't stalk people on the usenet, hit anyone over the head with a Bible or call people "Satan" just because they don't believe in the same God, or any God for that matter. They are pretty liberal people really. I'm pretty much cool with anyone, whatever they choose as a higher power (or lack there of.) So, my problem is not with God, Christianity or anything spiritual, it's with Chung. Seperate the two, not meaning the poster but anyone who is into the "I hate all Christians because of Chung mode.)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2008 12:59 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets
of
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Crazysatan
who remains
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
forevermore
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
monkfish - 30 Mar 2008 21:16 GMT >> monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in >> news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > with Chung. Seperate the two, not meaning the poster but anyone who is into > the "I hate all Christians because of Chung mode.) Even most Christians seem to live without referring to God most of the time.
What does it mean to have God as the ultimate point of reference?
What do atheists have as the ultimate point of reference?
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J666 - 30 Mar 2008 22:00 GMT On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:16:21 -0500, monkfish who is still here carries on as usual with questions
> Even most Christians seem to live > without referring to God [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > What do atheists have > as the ultimate point of reference? I thought you were removing SMC from your headers. I see you have decided to keep posting on SMC
I have a question - since you send it as a reply to only ACT, why even send it here. Are your drumming up business for the other group - in ACT it seems most of the posts are ones mainly posted here and posted there also. So maybe nobody really cares about christnet theology and views it like astrology.
Will be interesting to see if anyone on SMC really cares about what you say or will answer your sophmoric pseudo-Socratic attempts at question.
For posts sent to SMC, remember to include SMC in your reply.
monkfish - 30 Mar 2008 22:46 GMT > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:16:21 -0500, monkfish who is still here carries on as > usual with questions [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > For posts sent to SMC, remember to include SMC in your reply. I'm not even subscribed to SMC, dear.
Are you going to stop crossposting so much anytime soon? It's YOUR responsibility to remove newsgroups from the header if you don't intent to follow up.
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J666 - 30 Mar 2008 23:12 GMT On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:46:19 -0500, the saga of monkfish continues
> I'm not even subscribed to SMC, dear. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > newsgroups from the header > if you don't intent to follow up. Until YOU started posting on SMC I did not even know you existed and so all you have to do is to stop posting on SMC and your problem is solved.
Since you post here but have a reply only to ACT it does seem like you do not want anyone on SMC to see my response.
That is an attempt at censorship of what is posted here.
You said nobody cares what I say on SMC, but yet you do not want me to respond to this here - hmmm ... wonder why if nobody cares what I say. I will work on a Socratic question as a way to respond.
Remember - when posted to SMC, reply to SMC even if not set up that way by the poster - we do not want censorship - if we do, I nominate Chung to be censored first.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2008 23:30 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan
is still
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
forevermore
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega
<><
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Smiler - 31 Mar 2008 04:58 GMT >> monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in >> news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > it's with Chung. Seperate the two, not meaning the poster but anyone who > is into the "I hate all Christians because of Chung mode.) The emotion I feel for Chung is not hate. He would be deserving of pity, if he would only recognise that his actions are those of someone with a severe mental disorder. Until he does that, derision is the only thing he seems to understand.
Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
Machete - 31 Mar 2008 05:58 GMT >>> monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in >>> news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > The godless one > a.a.# 2279 Remember though, unlike most victims of mental illness, Chung has a giant ego that tells him he doesn't have a problem, we all do. Most people who are mentally ill do not hold the title of "doctor" which makes the situation even more disconcerting. Lastly, Chung sees this as his group, he will never leave despite the best efforts of many. Evidently, ISP's are not holding people accountable anymore for their abusive behavior. Back in the 90's, accounts got nuked on a regular basis, now, I guess they need the business. Chung knows damn well this is not a group in which discussions about religion are remotely appropriate, alas, he continues to aggravate and ignore the masses who want him to post on topic material, or leave the group. In the end, it's probably a losing battle, but I certainly take pleasure in the fact that Chung has to spend 20 hours a day to run "his group." Eventually, it will catch up with him, although it may take a while.
Pass the Thorazine please, otherwise Chung will be up until 6am again, like he is every other night.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2008 07:37 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet
of
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan
who remains
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
forevermore
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
monkfish - 31 Mar 2008 15:45 GMT >>>> monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in >>>> news:0eOdnSyo6LIfVHPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology on [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > Pass the Thorazine please, otherwise Chung will be up until 6am again, like > he is every other night. You can simply ignore him or even filter him out.
He does post on topic sometimes, however peculiar his view might be.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2008 15:55 GMT > You can simply ignore him > or even filter him out. The creatures of darkness are simply unable to ignore the light of the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, in the hearts of HIS disciples:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Proof
> He does post on topic sometimes, > however peculiar his view might be. The truth seems peculiar to those who do not really know HIM.
May you and other dear friends, brethren, and neighbors have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
J666 - 31 Mar 2008 16:05 GMT > The creatures of darkness are simply unable to ignore the light of the > truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, in the hearts of HIS disciples: Chung's "light of truth" is a "BLACK light of truth"
Will await one of Chung's usual BLACK posts
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2008 16:33 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Flounderingsatan
Machete - 01 Apr 2008 08:24 GMT > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Flounderingsatan http://dunderheadedflounderingwanger/nopatients/nopractice/nolife.Chung
Machete - 01 Apr 2008 08:23 GMT >> You can simply ignore him >> or even filter him out. > > The creatures of darkness are simply unable to ignore the light of the > truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, in the hearts of HIS disciples: You are spinning out of control Wanger, there are no demons in this newsgroup, just individuals who simply don't agree with your heavy-handed approach and judgemental behavior. You are in no position to judge anyone, in doing so, you contradict your claim as a disciple/prophet.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2008 10:17 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan
Mike Mordant - 01 Apr 2008 14:07 GMT On Apr 1, 4:17 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan Weak attempt to silence people who challenge your nonsense.
J666 - 01 Apr 2008 14:36 GMT > Weak attempt to silence people who challenge your nonsense. But it is Chung's consistent response which loses all meaning because it is automatic.
Chung's jerk-reflex does not any thought.
Actually Chung's are really a junk-reflex which also do not require thinking and have no sane thought behind them.
Pastor Frank - 02 Apr 2008 20:01 GMT > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 8:07:39 -0500, Mike Mordant >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > thinking > and have no sane thought behind them. Talking like that, all you do is prove yourself perceptually and philosophically challenged. Nothing you say shows any sign of "thinking" or "sane thought".
J666 - 02 Apr 2008 21:05 GMT > Talking like that, all you do is prove yourself perceptually and > philosophically challenged. Nothing you say shows any sign of "thinking" or > "sane thought". ROFLOL
Your statement is a dictionary example of the saying: "The Pot Calling The Kettle Black"
And the really funny thing, is that you do not even realize that.
Once again your own words show the idiocy of what you say far better than anyone else could. I can hardly wait for your response.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 03 Apr 2008 04:21 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet
Pastor Frank - 05 Apr 2008 20:35 GMT > On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:01:46 -0500, Pastor Frank >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Once again your own words show the idiocy of what you say far better than > anyone else could. I can hardly wait for your response. Thanks for proving my point.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 06 Apr 2008 22:51 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels
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