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Tim - 31 Jan 2005 07:34 GMT
"The study found that women who had had either kind of needle
biopsy were fifty percent more likely to have cancer in their
sentinel (lymph) nodes than women who underwent the surgical
removal of the whole tumor with excisional biopsy."

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Ralph W. Moss, Ph.D. Weekly CancerDecisions.com
Newsletter #169 01/30/05
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THE MOSS REPORTS

This week I begin a two-part discussion of an increasingly common
medical procedure - diagnostic needle biopsy.

Tens of thousands of needle biopsies are performed each year in
the US alone, and the procedure is universally assumed to be safe
and reliable.  Yet there is evidence to suggest that needle biopsy
may not be as harmless or uncomplicated a procedure as once
thought.  In fact, it may in some cases inadvertently cause cancer
cells to break away from a tumor, thus enabling spread beyond the
immediate tumor area.

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ARE NEEDLE BIOPSIES SAFE?

A June 2004 report from the John Wayne Cancer Institute in
California has rekindled a long-standing debate over whether or
not needle biopsies are safe. The paper set out to examine whether
this technique, widely used to obtain specimens in cases of
suspected cancer, might itself allow malignant cells to spread
from an isolated tumor to nearby lymph nodes. The authors
reluctantly conclude that a needle biopsy may indeed increase the
spread of the disease by 50 percent compared to patients who
receive the more traditional excisional biopsies (or
"lumpectomies").

This is a rigorous study, and it comes with an excellent pedigree.
The lead author, Nora M. Hansen, MD, was chief surgical resident
at the University of Chicago (1994-1995) before coming to the John
Wayne Cancer Institute in Santa Monica, Calif., in 1997. She is
currently Assistant Director of the Joyce Eisenberg Keefer Breast
Center, Saint John's Hospital and Health Center, Santa Monica.

John Wayne Cancer Institute, a division of Saint John's Hospital,
is the institution that pioneered the procedure known as sentinel
node biopsy. This is a technique for identifying the first lymph
node to which a tumor is likely to spread.  By removing that node
and examining it at the time of surgery, it is possible to predict
with great accuracy whether the cancer has indeed spread.  This
enables the surgeon to remove only those lymph nodes that have
become involved with cancer, instead of resorting to wholesale
lymph node dissection, a procedure which can leave a patient with
long-term pain, edema, disfigurement and impairment of limb
mobility.

The report was published in a prestigious journal, the American
Medical Association's Archives of Surgery, which has been
published continuously since 1885. The study was conducted by a
team of John Wayne scientists which, in addition to Dr. Hansen,
included Armando G. Giuliano, MD, chairman of the American College
of Surgeons Breast Oncology Committee and the author of over 200
scientific articles on breast cancer. I emphasize the credentials
of the study's authors in order to make the point that this is a
group of well-respected clinicians and assuredly not a group of
mavericks.

Hansen and her colleagues wanted to discover whether the common
method used to obtain specimens from a breast tumor influenced the
subsequent spread of disease to the sentinel node (SN). She and
her colleagues therefore studied 663 women who were known to have
breast cancer. Of these, about half had been biopsied with a
needle - either a fine needle aspiration (FNA) or a large-gauge
needle core biopsy. The other half had undergone the physical
removal of their tumor (i.e., an excisional biopsy or lumpectomy).
The study found that women who had had either kind of needle
biopsy were fifty percent more likely to have cancer in their
sentinel nodes than women who underwent the surgical removal of
the whole tumor with excisional biopsy.

The report's authors state: "Manipulation of an intact tumor by
FNA or large-gauge needle core biopsy is associated with an
increase in the incidence of SN metastases, perhaps due in part to
the mechanical disruption of the tumor by the needle." This is a
discreet way of saying that needle biopsy, an increasingly common
procedure, was itself responsible for spreading the cancer,
although the authors take pains to qualify this disturbing
conclusion by suggesting that not every cluster of cancer cells
found in the regional lymph nodes will inevitably end up
developing into clinically apparent cancer.

The implications of this study are vast, since patients who are
found to have cancer in their lymph nodes are automatically
classified at a higher stage and therefore face much more
extensive treatment than those who have small tumors that are
limited to the breast.

Instead of being told that they have stage I cancer and that
surgery "got it all," they are now delivered the frightening news
that the cancer has spread outside its capsule and gotten into the
lymphatic system. They then face the possible dissection of the
affected chain of lymph nodes and aggressive chemotherapy,
radiation and/or hormonal therapy to wipe out the stray cancer
cells (Chu 1999).

The report also potentially throws a monkey wrench into the smooth
running early detection 'machine' that every year identifies and
treats hundreds of thousands of Americans with cancer. Indeed,
over the last few decades the needle biopsy has become an
essential element in the detection not only of breast cancer, but
also of many other kinds of cancer. The advantages of the
technique are many: needle biopsies are nearly painless and
bloodless in-office procedures, and much less expensive and
time-consuming than surgical biopsies. The procedure consists of a
hollow needle being inserted into a suspected tumor in order to
retrieve samples for microscopic examination. In certain cases the
tumor may have to be punctured four to six separate times in the
process of obtaining adequate tissue for diagnostic purposes.

Get a Band-Aid and Go Home

Is it really safe to puncture a tumor in this way, especially when
the tumor is anatomically walled off or encapsulated from the rest
of the body? Isn't this running the risk of spreading the disease,
either into the track formed by the needle, or, worse, by spilling
cells directly into the lymphatic system or bloodstream? Has this
procedure really been carefully thought out and researched before
being implemented on such a massive scale?

To read the mainstream media, you would think that the medical
profession is uniformly in favor of this procedure.  For example:

. A 1999 report in the Journal of American Medical Association
enthusiastically endorsed the use of needle biopsies.

. "A painful surgical biopsy of breast tissue may no longer be
necessary," a CNN website enthused, in interpreting the study.
Needle biopsies are "just as reliable, less expensive, and more
comfortable" than the surgical alternative for diagnosing breast
cancer" (Salvatore 1999).

. Jack E. Meyer and colleagues at Boston's Brigham and Women's
Hospital reviewed 1,836 cases of breast cancer diagnosed with the
aid of a needle. They found large-core needle biopsies "accurate,
safe and well accepted by patients and referring physicians."
Instead of an operation, with local or general anesthesia, and
possible deformation of the breast, patients experienced a
one-hour in-office procedure.

"When the procedure's over you get a Band-Aid and you go home,"
said Meyer (Salvatore 1999).

Win-Win

To summarize: in principle the needle biopsy seems like a win-win
situation. It is a simple office procedure, convenient, bloodless
and virtually pain-free for patients. One would certainly not
dispense with a test like this for trivial reasons.  Currently,
1.2 million US women a year undergo breast biopsies. Between 20
and 25 percent of these tests show cancer, according to Dr. Neil
Gorrin, assistant chief of surgery at Kaiser Permanente Medical
Center in South San Francisco (Viddya 2001). That means that
virtually all the women in the US who were diagnosed with breast
cancer (215,990 this year) went through this procedure.

Yet concerns have been raised about the safety of invasive
biopsies since they were first introduced more than a century ago.

The surgical biopsy first came to prominence in the 1870s, through
the work of Carl Ruge and Johan Veit of the University of Berlin,
who showed that only 10 out of 23 women who had undergone surgery
for cervical cancer actually turned out to have the disease. At
that time, surgeons in their arrogance simply assumed that they
could recognize cancer when they saw it: they viewed the
suggestion that tumors should be biopsied before excision as a
direct challenge to their diagnostic and clinical acumen. But the
work of Ruge and Veit effectively changed the prevailing tide of
opinion.

Remarkably, fine needle biopsies - described as "a new instrument
for the diagnosis of tumors" - were first reported for
head-and-neck cancer by M. Kun in 1847. They were soon forgotten,
but were subsequently revived by Hayes E. Martin, MD, and Edward
B. Ellis, MD, of Memorial Sloan-Kettering, in the 1920s (Martin
1930). Needle biopsies were performed on a large scale at Memorial
in the 1930s; however, the technique did not gain many adherents
in the US during that time. Needle biopsies later underwent a
resurgence in Scandinavia during the 1950s and 1960s, and it was
from there that the trend spread to the rest of the world,
including back to the United States (Das 2003).

By the time of World War I biopsy became routine practice in the
US, endorsed by both the American Cancer Society and the American
Medical Association.

However, by no means everyone in the medical establishment was
convinced that biopsy was an unqualified good.  James Ewing, the
dean of American cancer pathologists, explicitly condemned
puncturing unbroken skin for the purpose of sampling deeper
lesions. He wrote: "It is especially to be avoided with...tumors
of the breast, and all growths in which incisions of the skin
involve also incisions through the tumor capsule" (Pack 1940: 43).

That would of course preclude most of the situations in which
needle biopsies are currently done.

Ewing was not alone.  The editor of the influential New York
Medical Record had this to say on the subject:

"[O]ne who harpoons or excises a piece of tissue from a tumor with
unbroken cutaneous or mucous surface, especially an encapsulated
tumor, and then waits a day or two while the specimen is being
examined, will almost inevitably destroy his patient's chance of
recovery by operation....To resort to indiscriminate digging into
all tumors on the chance of thereby reaching a diagnosis, which
can usually be made by safer measures, and which moreover is not
absolutely necessary, is positively wicked...." (Pack 1940).

Strong words! The author ends on a peculiarly modern note: "[A]
physician acting on this advice would have no defense whatever if
the heirs of his patient should bring a malpractice suit"  (cited
in Pack 1940:44).

To be concluded, with references, next week.
madiba - 01 Feb 2005 22:23 GMT
> The report's authors state: "Manipulation of an intact tumor by FNA or
> large-gauge needle core biopsy is associated with an increase in the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> cancer cells found in the regional lymph nodes will inevitably end up
> developing into clinically apparent cancer.
This is the conclusion they reached:
"The clinical significance of this phenomenon is unclear."

Another point about this 'rigorous' study:
I find the stats unusual to say the least.
I don't use the Wald test myself, but the confidence intervals are
P= .07  for the FNA correlation
P= .04  for the core biopsy correlation
"Tumor size ( P<.001) and grade ( P= .06) also were significant
prognostic factors. "

IMHO this shows a highly significant correlation between mets in the SLN
and TUMOR SIZE -surprise, surprise...  
Significant correlation for core biopsies, OK. Just scraped thru the 95%
confidence interval. But neither FNA nor tumor grade are significant
factors.

So there might be something to zapping breast tumors with big fat core
biopsy needles. If anyones seen the latest craze amongst the breast
radiologists (Vacuum-Assisted Biopsy) realises this approach may be
going too far. They drill out so much material that often nothings left
for the surgeons to operate....  Which brings us back to the authors - a
bunch of surgeons. Need I say more?
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Disclaimer:  This sort of thing wouldnt happen in Oz

Peter Moran - 02 Feb 2005 21:00 GMT
>> The report's authors state: "Manipulation of an intact tumor by FNA or
>> large-gauge needle core biopsy is associated with an increase in the
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> for the surgeons to operate....  Which brings us back to the authors - a
> bunch of surgeons. Need I say more?

No need for the slur on surgeons.  They have reported the material very
honestly, while allowing that this retrospective study may merely be
reflecting the results of unknown processes of selection.

I can suggest one.   Larger tumours will be easier to feel and will be more
likely to be subjected to immediate needle or core biopsy at initial
consultations in the interests of having the earliest possible diagnosis.
Less easy to feel (smaller) lumps will go into other diagnostic pathways
that will include more formal excision-biopsies such as excision following
needle localisation.     As you have pointed out, tumour size is such a
dominant influence and the other statistical associations so weak that a
very few cases of such selection would be enough to explain  the findings.

Another problem is that it is macrometastases that appeared to be increased,
rather than the expected micrometastases,  in such a short time frame.

The authors are not changing their practices and nor should they on the
basis of this study.   I guess, however,  someone will have to do a
randomised trial.

Peter Moran
eveline - 02 Feb 2005 21:39 GMT
> >> The report's authors state: "Manipulation of an intact tumor by FNA or
> >> large-gauge needle core biopsy is associated with an increase in the
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>
> Peter Moran

Would this finding suggest that radiation prior to any surgical intervention
be prudent?
After all radiation has its own side effects and hazards....and then the
biopsy would not have been possible.
I felt more comfortable about my daughters biopsy when she was admitted
rapidly and the lumpectomy done in a couple days.  Her lymph nodes showed no
signs of 'her 2 neu', although 8 were removed along with the sentinal node.

eveline
madiba - 03 Feb 2005 13:55 GMT
> "Peter Moran" <moringa@gil.com.au> wrote in message
> news:42013f665585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
[quoted text clipped - 66 lines]
> rapidly and the lumpectomy done in a couple days.  Her lymph nodes showed no
> signs of 'her 2 neu', although 8 were removed along with the sentinal node.

One would think it speaks for radiation before surgery, but
1) no radiation oncologist wants to get to work without seeing positive
histology, meaning a FNA or core biopsy beforehand..
2) For breast cancer, pre-operative radiation (and chemo) has only been
shown to be beneficial in advanced cases with lymphangiosis, the
so-called inflammatory BC.
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Ray Laughton - 03 Feb 2005 15:44 GMT
> >> The report's authors state: "Manipulation of an intact tumor by FNA or
> >> large-gauge needle core biopsy is associated with an increase in the
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> No need for the slur on surgeons.  
You missed the disclaimer..

>They have reported the material very
> honestly, while allowing that this retrospective study may merely be
> reflecting the results of unknown processes of selection.
True, apart from the sloppy stats.

> I can suggest one.   Larger tumours will be easier to feel and will be more
> likely to be subjected to immediate needle or core biopsy at initial
> consultations in the interests of having the earliest possible diagnosis.
> Less easy to feel (smaller) lumps will go into other diagnostic pathways
> that will include more formal excision-biopsies such as excision following
> needle localisation.    
Is that the way things happen at your end? I would've thought that
someone presenting with a large tumour was scheduled for the op right
away, with a pre-op frozen section/ biopsy to insure the diagnosis is
correct.

> As you have pointed out, tumour size is such a
> dominant influence and the other statistical associations so weak that a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> basis of this study.   I guess, however,  someone will have to do a
> randomised trial.
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madiba - 03 Feb 2005 19:08 GMT
> >> The report's authors state: "Manipulation of an intact tumor by FNA or
> >> large-gauge needle core biopsy is associated with an increase in the
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> No need for the slur on surgeons.  
You missed the disclaimer..

>They have reported the material very
> honestly, while allowing that this retrospective study may merely be
> reflecting the results of unknown processes of selection.
True, apart from the sloppy stats.

> I can suggest one.   Larger tumours will be easier to feel and will be more
> likely to be subjected to immediate needle or core biopsy at initial
> consultations in the interests of having the earliest possible diagnosis.
> Less easy to feel (smaller) lumps will go into other diagnostic pathways
> that will include more formal excision-biopsies such as excision following
> needle localisation.    
Is that the way things happen at your end? I would've thought that
someone presenting with a large tumour was scheduled for the op right
away, with a pre-op frozen section/ biopsy to insure the diagnosis is
correct.

> As you have pointed out, tumour size is such a
> dominant influence and the other statistical associations so weak that a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> basis of this study.   I guess, however,  someone will have to do a
> randomised trial.
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Peter Moran - 04 Feb 2005 07:07 GMT
>> >> The report's authors state: "Manipulation of an intact tumor by FNA or
>> >> large-gauge needle core biopsy is associated with an increase in the
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> away, with a pre-op frozen section/ biopsy to insure the diagnosis is
> correct.

You cannot really talk turkey to patients about treatment options until you
have a pretty certain diagnosis.   The stress for these women is bad enough
without asking them to try and deal with hypothetical situations.   There
are other arguments against  a rushed approach.

Peter Mroan
madiba - 04 Feb 2005 14:24 GMT
> >> I can suggest one.   Larger tumours will be easier to feel and will be
> >> more likely to be subjected to immediate needle or core biopsy at
> >> initial consultations in the interests of having the earliest possible
> >> diagnosis. Less easy to feel (smaller) lumps will go into other
> >> diagnostic pathways that will include more formal excision-biopsies
> >> such as excision following needle localisation.

> > Is that the way things happen at your end? I would've thought that
> > someone presenting with a large tumour was scheduled for the op right
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> without asking them to try and deal with hypothetical situations. There
> are other arguments against  a rushed approach.

To be more precise: Patients usually present with the large breast
tumour AND a recent mammography. So one has a tentative
clinical-radiological diagnosis. If its as advanced as it looks saving
time is vital, so one schedules surgery. Depending on the local
infrastructure the woman has between a couple of days to a
week or two before the operation. This time could be used for further
(non-invasive) diagnostics such as MRI, sono, some even do tumour
markers to confirm the tent. diagnosis. We're talking 90% or higher
chance of tumour now, so the lumpectomy/quad.resection/mastectomy can be
discussed and planned.
Intraop SLNode and tumour biopsy sent for frozen sections and off you
go. One could argue that the rushed core biopsy in the practice is the
one leading to the aformentioned problems with unnecessary LN mets.

madiba
Orac - 05 Feb 2005 13:43 GMT
> > >> I can suggest one.   Larger tumours will be easier to feel and will be
> > >> more likely to be subjected to immediate needle or core biopsy at
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> go. One could argue that the rushed core biopsy in the practice is the
> one leading to the aformentioned problems with unnecessary LN mets.

One could argue that, but one would very likely be wrong. If memory
serves me correctly and you're talking about the same paper I think
you're talking about, the phenomenon in the paper that you mentioned are
not true sentinel lymph node metastases. Sentinel lymph node metastases
are defined as being at least 0.2 mm in size. Anything less is not
considered a metastasis. What was described in the paper was small
clusters of cells, sometimes even individual cells, visible using only
special immunohistochemical stains, if I recall that paper correctly
from when I presented it at our journal club last month. There has been
controversy about what to do with these small clusters of cells ever
since the rise of sentinel lymph node biopsy for axillary staging.
Leaving aside the issue of whether the tumor was manipulated before SLN
biopsy, these the reason we're probably picking these cells up more
frequently is because the sentinel node is sectioned very finely,
whereas in the past, when axillary dissection was the standard of care,
each node would only have one or two sections made. Also, if I recall
the paper correctly, most of the cell clusters were subcapsular, which
are also not considered to be metastases, because you can occasionally
find benign breast epithelial cells in the subcapsular sinusoids
regardless. In any case, the staging guidelines chose this cut-off based
on the presently available data.

In any case, the present staging guidelines do not consider cell
clusters under 0.2 mm to be metastases, although they do note them. The
management of these cells is somewhat controversial, because we don't
yet have long-term studies, but the current standard is to note them and
to treat the patient as node-negative. We usually do not recommend a
completion axillary dissection on such patients, although there is
disagreement over whether this is correct, and many surgeons still do
recommend a completion lymphadenectomy.

Also, remember, that is one paper. There are other papers looking at the
same question. The literature is mixed on this question.

Peter is right. It is best to get a diagnosis before offering definitive
surgery, when possible.

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madiba - 07 Feb 2005 08:57 GMT
> In any case, the present staging guidelines do not consider cell
> clusters under 0.2 mm to be metastases, although they do note them. The
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> disagreement over whether this is correct, and many surgeons still do
> recommend a completion lymphadenectomy.

Sounds a bit like the discussion on what to do when tumor cells are
found in the bloodstream. But your point is well taken Orac. I only
reviewed the online abstract and you no doubt had the whole paper if you
discussed it at a journal club. Explains why Fr.Sections are still done
on SLNs (the sectioning is not so fine), its because the small cell
clusters are of no consequence. Yet.

madiba
 
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