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Alternative medicine (oxygen therapy) beats drug resistant bug.

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john - 22 Dec 2004 16:21 GMT
Alternative medicine (oxygen therapy) beats drug resistant bug.  I love the
way this fact has been hidden in this writeup
http://www.whale.to/c/oxygen.html

Vapour machine beats MRSA

Daily Mail Dec 1, 2004

A MACHINE that can wipe out MRSA in a matter of hours is being hailed as the
latest breakthrough in the fight against the hospital superbug.

It destroys the killer bacteria by pumping out a vapour that covers every
surface in a hospital ward. The colourless vapour consists of a chemical
called hydrogen peroxide, a type of bleach. Tests carried out over a
four-year period at hospitals such as St Thomas' Hospital in London, show
the vapour destroys 99 per cent of dangerous organisms.

Now the device, Bioquell, has been approved for use by scientists from the
Department of Health. Health Secretary John Reid announced last week that
three products had been given the go-ahead. As well as the Bioquell machine,
special catheters with a silver coating to reduce infections and also a
range of gels, called Ebiox, for cleaning hands, will be introduced.

MRSA - or methicillin-resistant staphylococcus aureus - has become a major
issue for the NHS as league tables show some of our most prestigious
hospitals have the highest rates of infection. The National Audit Office
estimates that at least 5,000 people a year die from infections picked up
while in hospital. One of Bioquell's biggest advantages is that, while it
destroys bacteria, it has no effect on sensitive hospital equipment.
James Stein - 22 Dec 2004 18:16 GMT
> Alternative medicine (oxygen therapy) beats drug resistant bug.  I love
> the
> way this fact has been hidden in this writeup
> http://www.whale.to/c/oxygen.html

They covered everything in bleach.

Congratulations. You've discovered that bleach kills bacteria.

Now try and treat a *person* that's been *infected*, with *bleach*. You'll
kill them.

By the way, this isn't "alternative medicine."

Fuckwit.
john - 23 Dec 2004 09:44 GMT
> Now try and treat a *person* that's been *infected*, with *bleach*. You'll
> kill them.
>
> By the way, this isn't "alternative medicine."
>
> Fuckwit.

the abusive ones are the most ignorant.  I drank hydrogen peroxide for
months, so it didn't kill me, dimwit.

And you can purify blood with an oxone machine which would make all of your
viral drugs obsolete, which is what they need anyway.  Plus the thousands
cured of cancer--look up Warburg
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2004/02/03/otto_warburg_cancer_and_oxygen.htm

Educate yourself http://www.whale.to/c/oxygen.html

You know, it is one of the truest things in psychology--seeing yourself in
others
Steph - 23 Dec 2004 16:28 GMT
>> Now try and treat a *person* that's been *infected*, with *bleach*.
>> You'll
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> the abusive ones are the most ignorant.  I drank hydrogen peroxide for
> months, so it didn't kill me, dimwit.

Seems to have damaged your powers of reasoning, though.
James Stein - 23 Dec 2004 20:57 GMT
>> Now try and treat a *person* that's been *infected*, with *bleach*.
>> You'll
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> the abusive ones are the most ignorant.  I drank hydrogen peroxide for
> months, so it didn't kill me, dimwit.

Any decent physician will tell you that hydrogen peroxide is poisonous. Some
dentists/periodontists will recommend gargling with a 1:10 hydrogen peroxide
: water solution, but be careful not to swallow. The bottle itself will
recommend seeking counsel at a poison control center immediately if
swallowed.

> And you can purify blood with an oxone machine which would make all of
> your
> viral drugs obsolete,

You can not purify blood with hydrogen peroxide. It would kill you.

which is what they need anyway.  Plus the thousands
> cured of cancer--look up Warburg
> http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2004/02/03/otto_warburg_cancer_and_oxygen.htm

This link is bullshit. "Hey, look, cells use oxygen. I'm amazed! Link this
to cancer."

> Educate yourself http://www.whale.to/c/oxygen.html

Misinformation of the lowest order.

> You know, it is one of the truest things in psychology--seeing yourself in
> others

And one of the truest rules in UseNet - start a scientific newsgroup, and
the kooks shall come.
Emily - 24 Dec 2004 00:55 GMT
nospamoridiotss@vaccine.com said...
> the abusive ones are the most ignorant.  I drank hydrogen peroxide for
> months, so it didn't kill me, dimwit.

If you drank it for months and it did you good, can I assume
you are a form of plantlife rather than humanoid?
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Willcox - 26 Dec 2004 04:31 GMT
> Alternative medicine (oxygen therapy) beats drug resistant bug.  I love the
> way this fact has been hidden in this writeup
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> surface in a hospital ward. The colourless vapour consists of a chemical
> called hydrogen peroxide, a type of bleach.

Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is nothing like bleach which contains chlorine
(Cl). The way each one kills germs is totally different.
matt weber - 26 Dec 2004 23:13 GMT
>> Alternative medicine (oxygen therapy) beats drug resistant bug.  I love the
>> way this fact has been hidden in this writeup
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is nothing like bleach which contains chlorine
>(Cl). The way each one kills germs is totally different.
Acually the kill exactly the same way. You need to learn a little more
about chemisty. The way bleach kills is Sodium Hypochlorite release
oxygen, which oxidizes the cells wall. The way Hydrogen Peroxide works
is also to relase oxygen.

If you don't think hydrogren peroxide can bleach, use some as shampoo
and let it sit on your head for about 10 minutes. Let me know what
colour your hair is when you are done. Spill some on coloured fabric,
and let me know what colour the spill is in about an hour.

Hydrogen Peroxide is a very effective bleach, and while the chemistry
that produces the oxygen atoms is different, the actual bleacing
mechanisms are identical.

However Hydrogren peroxide in high concentration is bad news. It will
oxidize almost anything. Metal, wall paper, wiring, equipment......
HIgh concentration were used a rocket fuel in the past.
 
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