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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / May 2005Cancer treatment after chemo
I recently provided the following link in response to this thread about other treatments that are available to those who have been through standard regimens: http://www.vitalethine.org "Jeff" responded: >Better yet, save your money (the above "treatment" has not been proven >in humans, only test tubes), eat a healthy diet and excercise. Yep, listen to this ignoramus, who clearly knows next to nothing about the vitalethine research, or he would not be making blanket statements. Let's be clear about this. This patented and published therapy has been extensively tested in animal models, and for various inethical and inept reasons, has yet to be given a meaningful trial in humans, but there is a stark difference between "chemo" agents and this synthetic "pro-drug" form of naturally occurring compounds, known collectively as "vitaletheine immune modulators". The "eat a healthy diet and excercise" mockery that physicians mindlessly engage in after their patients health has been decimated by decades of malnutrition, toxic accumulations, and resulting disease must fall particularly flat upon the ears of those who have tried valiantly to live healthy lifestyles, and yet still develop debilitating or fatal diseases. People like "Jeff" here, who appears to be a pediatrician or the like judging from a glimpse of his email address, are usually quick to jump to smug, uninformed, and for those taking their "advice", dangerous opinions about things they are apparently ill-equipped to understand. >And don't fall for scams like the one mentioned. Scam? Back up your claim, bright boy. Regardless, what has she got to lose? She has already fallen for the "chemo" scam. That alone has likely caused at least as much damage as it sought to correct, especially in terms of peak functionality and long-term viability. In general, running the radiation and chemo gauntlet basically reinforces the previous imbalances and malfunction that resulted in "cancer" in the first place. Enlightened minds will not accept such glib and arrogant reactions without first learning about the scientists involved, and the truly groundbreaking discoveries they have faithfully supported through the most abject, criminally insane, often arbitrary, and downright stupid circumstances imaginable, in order to preserve the rights of the citizens who helped fund this remarkable discovery to effective medical treatments and ensuing health and well-being. On the topic of "healthy diet", feel free to visit the website in my tagline below, if you are honestly interested in the concept...  Signature. . _o Kristofer Dale, . _ \<,_ ragged individualist, . _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large... . p.s. Learn and live, http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org >I recently provided the following link in response to this thread about > other treatments that are available to those who have been through [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > form of naturally occurring compounds, known collectively as > "vitaletheine immune modulators". YAWN....................... Want some diatomaceous earth with those sour grapes, Ch(K)ris? >I recently provided the following link in response to this thread about > other treatments that are available to those who have been through [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > form of naturally occurring compounds, known collectively as > "vitaletheine immune modulators". The "inethical" and "inept" reasons probably include that no drug company will risk money on a useless treatment. >The "eat a healthy diet and excercise" > mockery that physicians mindlessly engage in after their patients health > has been decimated by decades of malnutrition, toxic accumulations, and > resulting disease must fall particularly flat upon the ears of those who > have tried valiantly to live healthy lifestyles, and yet still develop > debilitating or fatal diseases. unfortunately, healthy habits don't guarentee long life. However, it does increase the chances of it. > People like "Jeff" here, who appears to > be a pediatrician or the like judging from a glimpse of his email > address, are usually quick to jump to smug, uninformed, and for those > taking their "advice", dangerous opinions about things they are > apparently ill-equipped to understand. >>And don't fall for scams like the one mentioned. > > Scam? Back up your claim, bright boy. There is one published study, from 11 years ago. And that study was in rats. Unless there is solid evidence to back up the claims, it is a scam. > Regardless, what has she got to > lose? Her money. > She has already fallen for the "chemo" scam. Modern cancer therapy, including surgery and chemotherapy, has been shown to prolong the lives of women with ovarian cancer and cure the cancer, in many cases. > That alone has likely > caused at least as much damage as it sought to correct, especially in > terms of peak functionality and long-term viability. Please provide refences to support your claim. > In general, running > the radiation and chemo gauntlet basically reinforces the previous > imbalances and malfunction that resulted in "cancer" in the first place. This is utter bullshit. Cancer does not result from "inbalances." when you get a clue, let us know. Jeff <garbage deleted> "Jeff" responded: >"inethical" and "inept" reasons probably include that no drug >company will risk money on a useless treatment. Or, as in this case, they might not want to risk the liability of associating with the imbeciles at UNM or a thief and scoundrel like the "licensee", Floyd Taub. Not to mention the fact that an inexpensive and effective treatment is anathema to the pharmacopulate... >unfortunately, healthy habits don't guarentee long life. >However, it does increase the chances of it. It all depends upon your (faulty) definition of "health". What passes for "health" in America these days is really a sick joke... >There is one published study, from 11 years ago. And that study >was in rats. Unless there is solid evidence to back up >the claims, it is a scam. Yet another opinion borne of advanced cerebral excrementosis. As I have pointed out to the similarly unenlightened "Orac" on many an occasion, unproven is not the same as disproven. Especially when hundreds of thousands of dollars have been deliberately wasted to avoid proving this technology that stemmed from a decade of research prior to patenting and publication. Meat puppets like "Jeff" here can't help such knee-jerk reactions because their tender tootsies shy away at the mere hint of being troddon upon by anything looming so seemingly large and threatening in the periphery of their limited vision... >Her money. Correct me if I am wrong, but I have been unable to locate one instance of a request for or requirement of money on either of the websites I provided. VitaleTherapeutics, Inc. is a non-profit organization dedicated to assimilating and disseminating current research and information pertaining to health, nutrition, and our environment. I find it very interesting that you take such an abiding interest in this persons money, when your profession, if you are indeed a doctor, has degenerated into a glorified yet moribund drug-pushing sideshow desperate to control the hearts and minds of an increasingly ill and dissatisfied populace in dire need of better information. When that information comes along, with no strings attached, no hidden agendas, no price tag, and no demand other than that one have an open mind, witness the turmoil that ensues... >Modern cancer therapy, including surgery and >chemotherapy, has been shown to prolong the lives of women >with ovarian cancer and cure the cancer, in many cases. "Been shown" meaning the ever-popular five-year survival criteria? Has this "cure" bestowed upon those survivors a robust and drug-free existence? I am not begrudging them their right to choose such a course of action (dependance), simply pointing out that there are alternatives to explore, being pursued by people who have learned the ropes and paid their dues, and are even now moving ahead with their efforts, despite the stupidity, arrogance and ignorance that even now seeks to deny us all our basic human right to seek knowledge and better ourselves and companions... >Please provide refences to support your claim. "refences"? Drs. Knight and Scallen are the ones with the claims, and have steadily been providing references througout their predominantly illustrious careers. You are certainly welcome to their opinions and data, they do not hide anything from anyone, unlike their ass-ociates at UNM, Dovetail Technologies, and Lifetime Pharmaceuticals. I am not a scientist, nor am I a practitioner, and I do not receive any remuneration whatsoever for participating in this process. I am simply the messenger, but I do resist when attempts, however feeble, are made to "kill" me... >This is utter bullshit. Cancer does not result >from "inbalances." Heh, I have struck a nerve - witness the deterioration of your spelling. I beg to differ with you. When the natural "vitalethine" is depleted, due to imbalances resulting from malnutrition coupled with exposure to environmental toxins, a wide variety of immune-related problems can occur, not the least of which is cancer. When this compound is reintroduced, in a synthetic form, it has demonstrated the ability to revitalize the immune system, allowing it to attack and destroy cancer with remarkable efficiency, without the damage associated with chemo and radiation "therapy". This effect has been witnessed in a variety of mammals, including horses, dogs, and the laboratory mice used in the enabling studies that resulted in worldwide patenting and scientific publication of the vitaletheine immune modulators. In addition, preliminary studies have explored the use of vitalethine in diabetes and AIDS models, with encouraging results. Again, it is not my purpose here to defend "claims" or give advice. I provide "notice" to anyone willing and able to look beyond the quagmire of "modern" medicine and peek into the future... >when you get a clue, let us know. When you have a moment, mon sewer, shove your head further up your colon, you might yet see the light at the end of the tunnel... ;^] Kristofer Dale, ragged individualist, statistic at large... >>I recently provided the following link in response to this thread about >> other treatments that are available to those who have been through [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > The "inethical" and "inept" reasons probably include that no drug company > will risk money on a useless treatment. Unlike your boyfriend. |
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