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jpotvin77@hotmail.com - 01 Apr 2005 18:35 GMT
Hello, I'm sorry as this is embarassing and not pleasant to discuss.
BUt for the last year I've noticed blood every day after a bowel
movement and pain during for no apparent reason. I dread going to the
bathroom every day because I don't know how much it will hurt, burn and
bleed. Is this a hemoroid thing? I've never had one and am not sure
what the symptoms are. I'm onlhy 27 and have no health problems other
than Lupus and low White blood cells. Could this be a hemoroid or
something more serious?
Any Advice!!? THank you, J
Jeff - 01 Apr 2005 19:02 GMT
> Hello, I'm sorry as this is embarassing and not pleasant to discuss.
> BUt for the last year I've noticed blood every day after a bowel
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> something more serious?
> Any Advice!!? THank you, J
1) We can't examine you over the net.
2) We don't know your full medical history.
3) There is nothing to be embarassed about. We all go poo-poo.
4) You should talk to your doctor, who can examine you, get your full
history and do any needed tests.

It may very well be hemorroids, or it could be something more serious. See
you doctor.

Jeff
Peter Moran - 01 Apr 2005 21:16 GMT
> Hello, I'm sorry as this is embarassing and not pleasant to discuss.
> BUt for the last year I've noticed blood every day after a bowel
> movement and pain during for no apparent reason. I dread going to the
> bathroom every day because I don't know how much it will hurt, burn and
> bleed.

It bothers me that you have had this for a year, but it is likely to still
be an anal fissure, a harmless condition that can normally be easily fixed.
It can be diagnosed usually by simple inspection of the anus, and more
thorough examination can be left until the pain has subsided.  Best to see a
General surgeon or colorectal surgeon.

Peter Moran

>Is this a hemoroid thing? I've never had one and am not sure
> what the symptoms are. I'm onlhy 27 and have no health problems other
> than Lupus and low White blood cells. Could this be a hemoroid or
> something more serious?
> Any Advice!!? THank you, J
Steph - 02 Apr 2005 04:07 GMT
> Hello, I'm sorry as this is embarassing and not pleasant to discuss.
> BUt for the last year I've noticed blood every day after a bowel
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> something more serious?
> Any Advice!!? THank you, J

Classic symptoms of anal fissure, but you should get it checked out.
J - 02 Apr 2005 20:26 GMT
> <jpotvin77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > Hello, I'm sorry as this is embarassing and not pleasant to discuss.
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>
> Classic symptoms of anal fissure, but you should get it checked out.

They better darn well do a DRE (digital rectal).
If one was done in my situation, it was cursory. And perhaps mine is smaller
and can only be seen, if stretched, but hard to feel?
I'm convinced that's also what I have because the bleeds continue on/off and
I'm no longer on aspirin containing medications.
To think if my primary care physician had done so, I'd have been spared 3 or
4 unnecessary tests.
(upper EGD,  barium swallow, colonoscopy, small bowel follow through, and 2
years later becasue of the continuing bleeding another barium swallow..all
for nothing.  Remember how you posted that website saying that doctors rely
too much on tests/scans these days?  The clues were all there in how I
described the initial incident..but doctors seem to stop listening after the
first 10 words or so. (and at the time, I had no pain during the bleeding
episodes but have in the past year or so)

I do also want to add that in this poster's situation, there are Lupus type
problems that can cause gastro bleeding.
Lupus can attack any part of the body.
For instance, a person can have lupus sores in the gastro tract.
For instance, vasculitis (can be problematic in various parts of the body) in
the colon.  So I think in that person's case, it's important to not assume
just one problem, but possibly also have a colonoscopy.  And get checked for
anemias.
I would think that vasculitis is similar looking as hemorrhoids, but can
occur higher up the gastro tract, whereas most hemorrhoids occur in the
rectal area, hence the colonoscopy instead of sigmoidoscopy.

J-not a doctor
Steph - 03 Apr 2005 03:21 GMT
>> <jpotvin77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > Hello, I'm sorry as this is embarassing and not pleasant to discuss.
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> first 10 words or so. (and at the time, I had no pain during the bleeding
> episodes but have in the past year or so)

Many patients with an anal fissure won't let you do a
DRE..............................
It's too bloody painful
J - 03 Apr 2005 09:54 GMT
> >> <jpotvin77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > Hello, I'm sorry as this is embarassing and not pleasant to discuss.
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> DRE..............................
> It's too bloody painful

Then I probably don't have a fissure, unless fissure sizes & pain vary...
And they probably wouldn't do a colonoscopy on him?

http://www.medicinenet.com/anal_fissure/article.htm
The diagnosis of an anal fissure is made by examination of the anus and anal
canal. The tear usually is easy to see, although occasionally a small viewing
instrument, called an anoscope, may be used in the evaluation.
Next: What is the treatment for anal fissure? >>

J
Steph - 03 Apr 2005 20:01 GMT
>> >> <jpotvin77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> > Hello, I'm sorry as this is embarassing and not pleasant to discuss.
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>
> J

You have to relax the anal sphincter a bit, so glyceryl trintrate creams are
used, or calcium channel blockers.
And avoid constipation
J - 03 Apr 2005 20:12 GMT
> >> >> <jpotvin77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > Hello, I'm sorry as this is embarassing and not pleasant to discuss.
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> used, or calcium channel blockers.
> And avoid constipation

Thanks Steph.
That wasn't my question. I was just showing the reader(s) where to get same
answers as you've just given.

by the way, in case he's still reading, maybe he can have a colonoscopy, since
they give a relax med and anesthetic?
Or would they wait for the repair of the fissure first and see if the bleeding
stops?
J
Steph - 04 Apr 2005 08:23 GMT
>> >> >> <jpotvin77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > Hello, I'm sorry as this is embarassing and not pleasant to
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> stops?
> J

A colonsocopy is no use for the fissure, of course, but I suspect some
injecetd local anaesthetic would make a colonoscopy possible if it were
indicated
 
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