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JohnG - 09 Feb 2004 17:46 GMT
Speaking of news articles, here's one.   The URL is too long and
cumbersome, but you can google for:  "Optimism Doesn't Prolong Lung
Cancer Patients' Survival"

"An optimistic attitude, often touted as an important psychological tool
against cancer, doesn't prolong survival for lung cancer patients.
Worse yet, telling such patients to have a positive outlook may even add
to their burden, claims a somber Australian study in the Feb. 9 online
issue of Cancer."

What a relief!  Now people can't blame me for not being optimistic
enough.

"The study author is quick to add, however, that her team looked only at
lung cancer, which typically has a bleak prognosis.  People with other
types of cancers may get greater survival benefits from a positive
outlook, says Penelope Schofield, a research fellow at the Peter
MacCallum Cancer Centre in Melbourne."

Ratz.   So they're telling me I'm not off the hook yet.

JohnG
Joe \(Shaw\) - 10 Feb 2004 04:41 GMT
I saw a similar study about a year ago that reached the same conclusion.
Basically it said, "A positive attitude may make you a nicer patient to be
around, but it won't make you live longer."

JP

> Speaking of news articles, here's one.   The URL is too long and
> cumbersome, but you can google for:  "Optimism Doesn't Prolong Lung
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> JohnG
Lorelei - 10 Feb 2004 04:57 GMT
> Speaking of news articles, here's one.   The URL is too long and
> cumbersome, but you can google for:  "Optimism Doesn't Prolong Lung
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> JohnG

I debated showing that article to my DH Curt becos he believes so much in
the power of positive thinking. I still haven't decided. I am his filter, I
find articles, etc and pass them on to him. He thinks he has to everything
so perfect. another quagmire.
Lori
johng - 10 Feb 2004 08:28 GMT
> I debated showing that article to my DH Curt becos he believes so much in
> the power of positive thinking. I still haven't decided. I am his filter, I
> find articles, etc and pass them on to him. He thinks he has to everything
> so perfect. another quagmire.
> Lori

That's OK.   I debated after I posted it whether I should have done so.   (Post
first, think later.)

Different people need to do different things to keep themselves going.   I
remember when my dear beloved grandfather, then in his early 70s, had an
intitution that he wouldn't live the night and wanted to say some appropriate
words to me before going.   He not only survived the night but lived another 20
years, mentally alert to the end.   It wasn't exactly a positive outlook, but
he often was like that.

I'm not making fun of him, btw.   He was my favorite grandfather, and I was his
favorite grandchild.   I still miss him and can get teary-eyed about it, even
though he has been gone for nearly 24 years now.

JohnG
Dave P - 10 Feb 2004 16:00 GMT
Like the survivors of the Holocaust, prisoners of war, etc... they all
stated that they survived becasue they had something to live for, to look
forward to, whatever that was - it was a very strong emotion and or
goal/task/belief/mission. The same could be said for people with cancer. Had
a friend  a few years ago, her daughter was going to get married in 18
months and the Doctors gave her 1-3 months to live - she lasted 19 months.
She died a month after the wedding. She stated everyday that if it was the
last thing she would do, she was going to attend the wedding.

We should all have something to live for and believe in strongly. If we
don't have something then find something.

I don't know if a positive attitude will help - I believe it does -  I feel
strongly that if you really have something to live for and are willing to
fight cancer on a daily basis in whatever way you can - never giving up
hope - to the end you - it will extend your life by
days/weeks/months/years/decades.

Never, Never Give Up - There is always hope - A cure is on its way or at
least a drug to hold PCa off.

That is my optimism. I simply believe and no research/study or person can
take that away from me or you.

Dave P.

> Speaking of news articles, here's one.   The URL is too long and
> cumbersome, but you can google for:  "Optimism Doesn't Prolong Lung
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> JohnG
Alan Meyer - 14 Feb 2004 02:49 GMT
I think of it this way:

It may be that you will live 30 more years.  Or it may be that
you'll only live one more year, or one month, or one day.
But however long it is, you've got to focus on living for that
time, and not throwing away the time left in depression and
despair.

Life is about living, not about dying.  I try to be optimistic,
not that I will live forever - I know something will eventually
kill me, and it will happen not too many years from now - but
that the time I have is worthwhile and enjoyable, that I'll get
something out of it and give something back too.

So for me, "optimism" doesn't mean that I'll beat this
disease, though I hope I do.  It means that I'll try to be
upbeat about all the time left to me, whether it's long or
short.

  Alan

> Like the survivors of the Holocaust, prisoners of war, etc... they all
> stated that they survived becasue they had something to live for, to look
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> > JohnG
Philski - 11 Feb 2004 18:15 GMT
Hey, you can look at this way:

My prostate is half-empty vs my prostate is half-full!!!

Philski
Tom Cular - 14 Feb 2004 10:06 GMT
The optimist says your glass is half full, while the pessimist might say
sure, but you're soaking your teeth in that glass ; )
Tom
> Hey, you can look at this way:
>
> My prostate is half-empty vs my prostate is half-full!!!
>
> Philski
Philski - 14 Feb 2004 17:48 GMT
That make sense! (Since my wife has false teeth and leaves them on the
window sill in a half-full coffee cup soaking each night)

And my bladder is ALWAYS empty! (Seems to be just a temporary place my
urine passes thru on it's way to the Depends Deposit)....

:)

Philski
 
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