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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / February 2004

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ray - 03 Feb 2004 05:24 GMT
My father has just received results saying he has prostate cancer.  I think
it was either 6 or 8  samples were taken and 2 wound found to be cancer.
One was 3mm the other 1mm.  The psa is 10 and a Gleason of 6.
The specialist belives all the cancer is probably in the prostate only.  He
must now decide which treatment to have.  Removal, radiation etc.
With these type of readings what course of action do you think seems
appropriate.
JohnG - 03 Feb 2004 05:37 GMT
> My father has just received results saying he has prostate cancer.  I think
> it was either 6 or 8  samples were taken and 2 wound found to be cancer.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> With these type of readings what course of action do you think seems
> appropriate.

Sorry to hear the news, but numbers like that are generally considered
quite hopeful.

Some additional factors that would come into play are your father's age
and health, and the availability of highly skilled practitioners,
especially for the surgery option.   Even with that information you
won't get a cut-and-dried answer here, but there are people who will
give you pointers to information that can be helpful.

JohnG
c palmer - 03 Feb 2004 07:09 GMT
hi ray - you may have thought you gave enough information but there are
still some important stats left out.  age was one, general health, stage
of cancer,  previous psa readings if possible.

can his health stand the operation?  the RP would physically put the
surgeon up close and personal with the cancer and he could tell exactly
how much and where the cancer is.  

radiation will not give you that info, but is open to treatment if
health is an issue.  

does he have BPH problems now, if so, how bad.  RP will cure that.  

i could go on and on discussing the plus and the minus of each
treatment, but the bottom line is this,  research, research, research.
and what does you dad feel comfortable with?

hope this helps.

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
Dave - 03 Feb 2004 07:55 GMT
Hi Ray,

welcome to another Aussie and sorry that circumstances have led you to
look for this info.  As the others have posted there are many variables
that need to be considered and you (and your old man) have lots of
reading/research to do.  In the end of course the decision is his.

Where in Oz are you, I'm in Townsville and there is only one urologist
within cooee of here so there are additional considerations of travel
for treatment etc?

I hope all works out well.

Dave

> My father has just received results saying he has prostate cancer.  I think
> it was either 6 or 8  samples were taken and 2 wound found to be cancer.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> With these type of readings what course of action do you think seems
> appropriate.
jimhoney - 03 Feb 2004 10:57 GMT
His age and expected lifespan if he did not have PCa are key factors in
deciding what to do.

jimhoney

> My father has just received results saying he has prostate cancer.  I think
> it was either 6 or 8  samples were taken and 2 wound found to be cancer.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> --
Steve Kramer - 03 Feb 2004 12:09 GMT
Ray,

Sorry to hear about your father.  We will give an opinion, but you have to
remember, none of us are giving it as a medical professional.  We just
learned a lot about the disease.  As your father should and as you should if
you're going to help in the decision making process.

But, before any of us can opine as to the best course of treatment, we'll
need his age and life expectancy without cancer.

Signature

Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .3  .4  .8
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .3 .2  .2  .2 .3
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
PSA  .1
Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03

> My father has just received results saying he has prostate cancer.  I think
> it was either 6 or 8  samples were taken and 2 wound found to be cancer.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> With these type of readings what course of action do you think seems
> appropriate.
Danny McCarty - 03 Feb 2004 19:52 GMT
>Subject: Guidance and Info needed plse.
>From: "ray" r.mcnamara@bigpond.com
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>With these type of readings what course of action do you think seems
>appropriate.

I have had surgery, radiation, and hormone+chemotherapy.  I wouldn't recommend
hormones at this point, except the possible use of Casodex to reduce the PSA a
little- my radiation oncologist wouldn't do radiation until the PSA was equal
to or less than 0.5
I have a gut feeling that radiation would be enough for you.  There is always a
chance that  PCa cell has escaped and survived somewhere, so you will drawing
blood for PSA readings for years.
Wakeley Purple - 04 Feb 2004 04:24 GMT
> My father has just received results saying he has prostate cancer.  I
> think
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>
> --

Lots of good info here: http://www.phoenix5.org/

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Wake

PSA 3.8, 11/2003 @58yrs
Biopsy positive 5% in 1 of 10 cores
T1c Gleason 3+3
RRP 1/12/04
Pathology agreed with biopsy + Negative margins
Erection 1/30/04

ray - 04 Feb 2004 10:32 GMT
My father and i would like to thankyou all for your quick response.
We live in Melbourne, Australia.  He is 67 yrs. old and in very good health.
The doctor could not feel anything so a biopsy was undertaken.  My father
believes he must therefor be a T1a. He is a fast healer and is not a
bleeder.

History: PSA  2/12/98 -      1.5
                    10/1/2000 -   2.6
                    17/10/2000 - 2.8
                    20/8/2003 -   9.2   Cholestarol also high
                    6/1/04      -    10
Biopsy :  6 samples taken. As mentioned above 2 found with cancer  1 - 1mm,
1 - 3mm.  Gleason 6.  The doctor believes the cancer to be contained in the
prostate and not too active.

I hope this gives you all a clearer idea where we stand.  My father was
originally looking at Brachnotherapy? but is now leaning towards have the
prostate fully removed due to his age and the possibilty that all the cancer
is contained in the prostate.  Your views are most welcome.

> My father has just received results saying he has prostate cancer.  I think
> it was either 6 or 8  samples were taken and 2 wound found to be cancer.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> With these type of readings what course of action do you think seems
> appropriate.
Steve Kramer - 04 Feb 2004 11:04 GMT
> My father and i would like to thankyou all for your quick response.
> We live in Melbourne, Australia.  He is 67 yrs. old and in very good health.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> prostate fully removed due to his age and the possibilty that all the cancer
> is contained in the prostate.  Your views are most welcome.

There are some ardent fans of brachy here.  But, at 67 years and, if he is a
T1a, I'd lean towards RRP in a heartbeat.  You have such a good chance at
removing all the cancer, I cannot imagine 'hoping the raditiona got it all.'

Signature

Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .3  .4  .8
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .3 .2  .2  .2 .3
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
PSA  .1
Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03

jimhoney - 04 Feb 2004 18:03 GMT
> My father and i would like to thankyou all for your quick response.
> We live in Melbourne, Australia.  He is 67 yrs. old and in very good health.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> prostate fully removed due to his age and the possibilty that all the cancer
> is contained in the prostate.  Your views are most welcome.

With those numbers he has good prospects for a complete cure with either
surgery or brachytherapy.

My case at age 52 was Gleason 6, T2c, and I got a complete cure with no
significant aftereffects from standard RRP (experienced surgeon).  Is there
a surgeon experienced with RRP available there?  If not, probably better to
go with radiation.

jimhoney

> > My father has just received results saying he has prostate cancer.  I
> think
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> >
> > --
Beverley - 05 Feb 2004 02:03 GMT
Here's two place to do a little research.
http://www.phoenix5.org
http://www.cooleyville.com/

Don Cooley's site is very pro brachytherapy.

That fast rise in PSA is probably not a good thing but in the long run the
difference between having brachytherapy and having a RP is about the same.
There is also some new high density brachytherapy or "temporary
brachytherapy" that may or may not be available in your area.

If the cancer is not contained to the prostate and has escaped it really
doesn't matter which method he chooses. Some men prefer to have the prostate
removed and others are willing to trust the seeds to do their job.

If you have any questions about brachytherapy just let me know. My husband
had 5 weeks of external beam radiation done on an IMRT machine and then his
seeds were implanted in May 2002.
Bev

> My father and i would like to thankyou all for your quick response.
> We live in Melbourne, Australia.  He is 67 yrs. old and in very good health.
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> > With these type of readings what course of action do you think seems
> > appropriate.
 
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