I am covered for drugs as a retiree at my university which employs
Walgreen's Health Initiatives to manage the program. In practice I
submit claims to them and when problems arise I call them. alghtouh
I am covered by Medicare, this is not a Medicare Part D Plan. Rather
it is the same plan active employees use. (It is considred equivalent
so I can convert to Medicare part D without penalty.)
About six weeks ago I ordered a renewal of my Viagra prescription.
There was some delay because my doctor was on vacation, but after a
couple of weeks, they finally shipped the pills on Aug. 28, 2009.
Usually such shiments arrive, by regular mail, within two to five
days, but I have to wait ten business days to report it if the
shipment does not arrive, which is what happened. I was told along
the way that the shipment would be sent by overnight delivery at no
cost to me when they were so notified. I notified them after the
mail arrived on September 14th (which was the 10 th business day).
This time I was told that it could take `up to 72 hours' to process,
but then it would be shipped over night, and the 72 hours. There was
also a `gotcha', namely, they claimed they had to treat it as a renwal
which would reduce the number of renewals by one. (Had this been the
last renewal, I would have had to get my doctor to issue a new
prescription.) When nothing had been shipped after 72 hours, I
called again and was told that `within 72 hours' could actually men
`after 72 hours'. Finally, it was shipped, according to their
website, on sunday Sept. 20, but that, of course meant, on Monday Sept
21. Moreover, it was shipped by regular mail, so I might have to wait
another 10 business days to see if I would get it. But they said
they would arrange for me to pick up some pills at a local Walgreen's
store the next day, Tuesday, Sept. 22. Of course, when I called the
local store, they told me that they could give me the pills, but since
my insurance plan limited the number of pills, I would need my doctor
to authorize it. That would have taken several additional days, so I
didn't pursue that. This seemed very strange since WHI had already
shipped me the drug without requiring my doctor's approval. So I
called WHI to complain and was told by some special handler addigned
to my case that it wasn't prior authorization but that WHI had asked
the local store for too many pills. I suggested he reduce the
number, which he said he would do and then call me back within several
hours. Of course, I never heard from him, and wonder of wonder, the
prescription actually arrived on Wednesay Sept 23, by regular mail,
after two days.
During this time, I notified the benefits counselor at my university,
and the last I hears, she had gotten no response from her contact at
WHI.
Now some of you may wonder what the big deal is. First of all, those
of you on Medicare Part D can't get Viagra thanks to a Republican
Congressman who wrote that into the Medicare Part D bill. Second,
this was hardly life threatening. Finally, I did have some old out of
date pills which worked well enough to keep my wife happy. The reason
was that my wife and I have other prescriptions, where doing without
the medication for a month would adversely affect our health, and for
some people, this could be life threatening.
I just wanted to find out just how incompetent these people could be.
It became a matter of principle for me.
Note that there was absolutely no government involvement in this
case. It was a private insurance plan managed by a private
company. The difficulty is that in practical terms, the players
have no real incentive to provide service. To do so would cost more,
and no one wants to pay for it. In principle, my university could
hire another management company, but in practice they aren't going to
do that, or, if they did, they aren't going to get anything better.
Steve Jordan - 27 Sep 2009 18:09 GMT
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> I just wanted to find out just how incompetent these people could be.
> It became a matter of principle for me.
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> hire another management company, but in practice they aren't going to
> do that, or, if they did, they aren't going to get anything better.
I have found, when dealing with incompetence and carelessness
among the denizens of the nether regions of the corporate
structure, that I get quick and positive action if I contact the
CEO of the company.
Regards,
Steve J
safire - 27 Sep 2009 19:06 GMT
> (snip)
>
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> denizens of the nether regions of the corporate structure, that I get
> quick and positive action if I contact the CEO of the company.
Len's complaint, in essence, is that the people referred to by jordan as
"denizens of the nether regions of the corporate structure" of
Walgreen's Health Initiatives were slow (and gave conflicting
information) so that his prescription was filled three weeks after it
should have been filled. Jordan, who, by his own admission, was a claims
adjuster, i.e a denizen of the nether regions of the corporate
structure, suggests that next time Len contacts Stanley B. Blaylock,
president of the company and vice-president of Walgreen's. Walgreen's
fills over 200 million prescriptions a year. Let's assume 2% or 6
million are problematic or 11,000 per day. Does jordan really believe
the CEO will personally resolve 11,000 daily errors and see to it that
next time Len's pills are shipped within the time promised? Netherbeing
jordan, who called the president of the United States Obamwah or
something like that, and therefore must be considered a racist, and who
admitted defrauding Geico, again shows he has absolutely no knowledge of
the way the world works.
> Regards,
>
> Steve J
jloomis - 28 Sep 2009 15:08 GMT
Hi Len,
I finally went in to Safeway yesterday to fill my prescription from Stanford
Medical Center for Viagra.
The lady said this is very expensive you know. I replied that my Blue Cross
of Calif. should help pay for part of that. Oh, no.....you have to have the
Dr. call Blue Cross to authorize the use and reason. I said fine, fax or
call. she said, oh no, that Hospital is too big, and why cant your regular
Dr. call Blue Cross for you. I said because the Dr. at Stanford is the one
that prescribed it, and he is the one who knows why I use it.....nerve
damage.....anyway.
She said, ok, this is going to take some time.....I said what? To fax a
letter to my Dr. @ Stanford......She said call back to see how it
goes........
I was livid.....Here I pay over 17,000 per year for private insurance for my
wife and myself, and have to argue and fight for a prescription of 10 Viagra
pills to help out with my ED caused by nerve damage from prostate surgery.
I cut these pills into 3rds.....so that I can use them and get more use out
of one pill.
Another thing I asked if I can just get generic.....Oh no.Only Viagra from
Pfiezer.....
That is why in the past I have turned to getting Viagra over the
net.....cheaper and just as effective.
I guess I have to use the old stash I have, and see if this modern medical
society of ours can get their heads out of their a.ses and make a decision
on my use of Viagra.....
john
>I am covered for drugs as a retiree at my university which employs
> Walgreen's Health Initiatives to manage the program. In practice I
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> hire another management company, but in practice they aren't going to
> do that, or, if they did, they aren't going to get anything better.
Tom Cular - 28 Sep 2009 16:26 GMT
Hi Guys,
While this is not a solution to the fouled up prescription plans, it may
offer some help. Cialis has a free trial offer for either 30 daily tablets
or 3 of what they call the 36 hour tablets. Here is the link to their
website.
http://www.cialis.com/index.jsp
len - 28 Sep 2009 16:38 GMT
> Hi Guys,
>
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> http://www.cialis.com/index.jsp
Thanks for the suggestion.
I tried Cialis, but it caused some back pain, a possible side effect.
Since I suffer from spinal stenosis, I decided it was prudent not to
use it.
Viagra's patent will expire in 21012-13, but they may be able to delay
generics for some years after that by the usual shenanigans that drug
companies use for such purposes. Of course I could always use one of
the generics available from the internet, but so far at least I've
been reluctant to take chances with unregulated medications.