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Game Plan To Beat Prostate Cancer
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Dave P - 21 Jan 2004 15:16 GMT From the research I have done the following is a good game plan to beat/fight prostate cancer. You can add your own or take away what you don't like. I realize we are all at different points with this disease. We all need to be moving towards better health. We may have cancer but we can still take the steps towards optimal health. Best wishes to all.
Dave P.
DIET: If your overweight then - Lose weight, body fat. Get to your ideal weight. This is very important.
Eat the following foods on a consistent basis that are shown to prevent or kill prostate cancer cells: Whey protien Green Tea Tomato Sauce Soy Products Flax Seeds Onions, garlic Red Grapes, Red wine Fruits - apples, cranberries, watermelon etc Vegtables - Brochilli, carrots etc
Forget about junk foods, fats, sugars etc, excessive alchol intake, tobacco
Supplementations: Multivitamin and mineral supplement Vitamin E mixed tocopherols Vitamin C Grape Seed Extract Fish Oil Modified food pectin
Spiritual: BELIEVE!!! You can win Hope!!! Keep it alive Prayer Positive Self Talk Visualization Techniques see yourself defeating the PCa Attend services Read motivating and inspiring stories. Watch motivating movies - Braveheart Speech, Independence Day Speech, Any Given Sunday Speech etc Never Quit Attitude
Exercise: Increase Flexibility - By stretching daily Increase Strength - By lifting weights, join a gym Increase Endurance - Walking, jogging, daily
Humor: Watch the comedy network - tape episodes Laugh, Laugh, and laugh some more By a audio tape and listen while driving. Seek out humorous people that make you feel good.
Attitude - Emotional Positive despite the circumstances Stay away from negative influences - Easier said then done. If you have to go through a treatment then do it - no matter how tough it is. Warrior Mentality - Your in war. Fight like a warrior. Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Live your life Be grateful everyday
Immune System: Do what you have to and keep it strong. If you do all the above you should have a stronger Immune System. Sleep Get the rest you need Laughter does strengthen our immune system Stress Reduction Positive Self Talk Sun Light - Get exposure to the Sun. Don't overdue it- read the research.
12345678910 ----- 10 is optimal health - 1 is death
On a scale of 1-10 where to you fit at this time. We all need to be moving towards 10. We can be at 2 and still moving towards 10.
Do what you have to do to survive. Don't ever give up and always have hope. Everything is possible.
A CURE IS ON ITS WAY WITHIN THIS DECADE - OR AT LEAST A TREATMENT TO HOLD IT AT BACK. WE ARE VERY CLOSE........
Dave P
7.1.02 PSA 4.7 8.1.02 Biopsy Cancer found in 1 core less than 5% 3+3=6 10.15.02 RP 11.1.02. Path Report Gleason 3+4 Positive Margin 4mm Prostate filled with cancer tumors 12.6.02 PSA <0.1 3.1.03 PSA .3 4.1.03 IMRT Salvage Radiation 38 treatments totyal gy 68,400 7.1.03 PSA <0.04 10.1.03 PSA <0.01 4.1.04 PSA??? Believing <0.01
From the last research study I have read I have up to a 77% chance of being disease free at 5 years since my psa was only .3 and had a radiation dose of 68.400 gy. I am thankful to God for the results. I pray daily that the salvage treatment was successful and my psa will always be <0.01 and that all of you affected by this disease have the strength and courage to fight it and win. I thank everyone that has supported me in the past. God Bless.
Steve Kramer - 21 Jan 2004 18:16 GMT Dave,
I'm very interested in this post. And I, for one, am extremely appreciative of the time and effort obviously involved.
But, just for clarification, is this regimen good for prostate health or for fighting prostate cancer?
I can do it all except lose weight. And, I'm not sure that I'm overweight or just a foot too short.
 Signature Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 PSA .1 .1 .1 .3 .4 .8 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .3 .2 .2 .2 .3 Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48 HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48 PSA .1 Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03
> From the research I have done the following is a good game plan to > beat/fight prostate cancer. You can add your own or take away what you don't [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > it and win. I thank everyone that has supported me in the past. > God Bless. Dave P - 21 Jan 2004 19:43 GMT Hi Steve,
Your humor is still the best and makes us all smile.
ITo answer your question it is good for both.
I am looking to kill the prostate cells. I am continually doing research on how to kill prostate cells. Looking at studies and research. The following things were reported to kill prostate cancer cells and/or slow the progression of the disease.
Low fat diet, exercise, whey protien, ground flax seed, daily aspirin 80mg, lots of green tea, grapes, red wine, onions, garlic, modified citrus pectin, brocolli, and there are others that have killed or reduced the amount of prostate cancer cells in studies. I know I am preaching to the choir here on this newsgroup. I am probably overdoing these but I am eating better have lost 20 pounds and getting in the best shape of my life
There is a ton of research out there on humor and laughter - how it boosts the immune system.
We can be proactive against this disease in many ways.
I hope your doing well. Wishing you <0.1 for the next Decade.
Dave P.
> Dave, > [quoted text clipped - 121 lines] > > it and win. I thank everyone that has supported me in the past. > > God Bless. Steve Kramer - 21 Jan 2004 22:42 GMT Thanks Dave. And, again thanks for doing the research that most of the rest of us haven't the time or inclination for. It's a tremendous help. I'll be writing up a whole new grocerly list for my wife.
 Signature Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 PSA .1 .1 .1 .3 .4 .8 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .3 .2 .2 .2 .3 Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48 HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48 PSA .1 Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03
> Hi Steve, > [quoted text clipped - 160 lines] > > > it and win. I thank everyone that has supported me in the past. > > > God Bless. PAUL KRAUSE - 21 Jan 2004 20:52 GMT i did mostly what has been listed for trying to prevent prostate cancer, but the doctors explain to me,"that if a male family member has or had prostate cancer, the likely result that prostate cancer will be passed down to the male family members. i agree that the listed preventions are important and should be followed.
MH - 21 Jan 2004 21:16 GMT Hi, Dave......
Like Steve, I, too, appreciate the time and effort you put into this post. There are so many good points to keep in mind.... for those concerned about some future encounter with PCa or those currently battling the disease. I have a friend who has a heart condition, and he has been using guided imagery lately... and meditation... and he says he just *feels* that it is making a difference. It is said the we humans only utilize 10% of our brains... and I truly believe that thinking positively can really help in beating an illness.
I wish you a lifetime of undetectable PSAs....
Take care! MikeH
> From the research I have done the following is a good game plan to > beat/fight prostate cancer. You can add your own or take away what you don't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dave P. Alan Meyer - 21 Jan 2004 23:19 GMT > From the research I have done the following is a good game plan to > beat/fight prostate cancer. You can add your own or take away what you don't > like. I realize we are all at different points with this disease. We all > need to be moving towards better health. We may have cancer but we can still > take the steps towards optimal health. Best wishes to all. Dave,
I believe the steps that you outlined won't hurt anyone and should help their general health. They may also help prevent the onset of cancer, or even slow its growth once already started. I have doubts however that they will do anything curative once cancer is already present. And I don't believe they will prevent cancer from occurring, just make it a little less likely.
Personally, I have always eaten a good, balanced diet, exercised, kept my weight at the same level as it was 30 years ago, and eaten many of the foods on your list. And I still got cancer. I can't even blame heredity since my father died of a heart attack at age 87 and my older brother still has a healthy prostate.
We just don't know what causes it or prevents it.
On the other hand, all diet and exercise aside, I'm hoping those 68.4 Grays of radiation you got will cure you. That's strikes me as a good, heavy dose for a man who has already had his prostate removed.
I've read that 90% of men who have extensions beyond the prostate capsule, but don't have metastatic disease, have those extensions within the first 4 mm of tissue. Your radiation should have zapped that area and more, giving you a decent chance.
Fernando Navarro - 22 Jan 2004 00:22 GMT Dave,
Thanks for sharing with us this important information!
Fernando
> From the research I have done the following is a good game plan to > beat/fight prostate cancer. You can add your own or take away what you don't [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > it and win. I thank everyone that has supported me in the past. > God Bless. Cam Bishop - 22 Jan 2004 20:43 GMT Here is an article which is pretty much on point about weight and prostate cancer:
Prostate cancer: another aspect of the insulin-resistance syndrome?
Barnard RJ, Aronson WJ, Tymchuk CN, Ngo TH.
jbarnard@physci.ucla.edu
Insulin resistance and compensatory hyperinsulinaemia are thought to be the underlying factors in the metabolic or insulin-resistance syndrome and can be controlled by diet and exercise. Hyperinsulinaemia has been shown to have a direct effect on the live, suppressing the production of sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) and insulin-like growth factor-binding proteins 1 and 2 (IGFBP-1, -2) while stimulating the production of insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1). These factors have been proposed to be important modulators of hormone-related cancers, such as prostate cancer. Men adopting a low-fat diet and daily exercise reduced their levels of serum insulin and IGF-1, while increasing their levels of IGFBP-1 and sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG). Cell-culture studies with LNCaP prostate cancer cells showed apoptosis of tumour cells and a reduction in serum-stimulated cell growth in the post diet and exercise serum. These results suggest that prostate cancer may be another aspect of the insulin-resistance syndrome and that adopting a low-fat diet combined with regular exercise may reduce the risk for prostate and other hormone-related cancers. This needs to be tested with prospective studies. Seems like we need to take care of our bodies to fight cancer. This regime will also help protect our hearts and the rest of our body. cam bishop
DoB: 11/11/42| Date DX: 3/03 | bPSA: 4.5 | T2c 3+3=6 | no local treatment- Low fat diet/exercise/multiple supplements Date |PSA |Testosterone | Treatment 6/03 | 4.0 | N/A | Low fat diet/exercise/multiple supplements 9/03 | 3.3 free 9% | 538 | continued above and added proprietary Chinese herb combination. 10/03|3.3 free 12% | N/A | same as above
> Dave, > [quoted text clipped - 116 lines] > > it and win. I thank everyone that has supported me in the past. > > God Bless. Leonard Evens - 22 Jan 2004 22:32 GMT > Here is an article which is pretty much on point about weight and > prostate cancer: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > exercise may reduce the risk for prostate and other hormone-related > cancers. This needs to be tested with prospective studies. Studies like this are at best preliminary and would have to be confirmed by other studies. In any case, it is all a matter of probabilities. It may be that regular exercise and a low fat diet, which I engaged in for the past 25 years, will lower your risk of getting prostate cancer. But other factors may increase your risk. The biggest risk factors are being a man and getting old, and few of us would want to avoid those.
I haven't stopped exercising, and after eating a low fat diet for so many years, I get sick every time I indulge in fatty food. So I will continue these good habits and hope they protect me somewhat from heart disease, at least for a while longer. But even there, age and heredity will do their damage.
> > Seems like we need to take care of our bodies to fight cancer. This [quoted text clipped - 142 lines] >>>it and win. I thank everyone that has supported me in the past. >>>God Bless. dale.j. - 22 Jan 2004 23:22 GMT > Here is an article which is pretty much on point about weight and > prostate cancer: [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Chinese herb combination. > 10/03|3.3 free 12% | N/A | same as above We are followers of a low fat diet, but do not abstain altogether, it's just not at the top of the food list. I am also of the opinion that humans can get along very well with small amounts of food intake. Water is another story. Nowadays there are so many temptations to eat it is very difficult to resist. Discipline is paramount.
Live to eat or eat to live, that is the question.
Dale J.
 Signature Email: dalej2@mac..com
Outlivecancer - 23 Jan 2004 16:44 GMT Really good post,I believe we have to uttilize mind, body and spirit to have whole health.The diet thing is harder as I quit smoking and also developed GERD- the acid reflux thing,so I can't eat a lot of the acidic foods, but am getting weight to good space.
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