Hi
I'm looking for some advice here from those who may have shared this same
scenario. I'm 46 years old male, relatively good shape and health. I've had
two PSA readings within the past 8 months to find levels 2x higher than what
I should have. First=2.7 second (2 months later) was down to a 2.4 PSA.
Now I must go for another PSA ( Free and Total ratio test.) Is this test
different from the others? Should I have a biopsy right away??? What course
of events can I expect from the next resutls. Just looking for some
insights. Thanx. AJ
Leonard Evens - 04 Jan 2004 06:29 GMT
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According to Patrick Walsh, in Guide to Surviving Prostate Cancer, your
PSA is borderline high for someone your age. But there are a variety
of causes of higher than normal PSA, so it doesn't necessarily mean you
have prostate cancer. There are two kinds of PSA, free and bound. (If
you have interested in the chemistry, see Walsh's book.) If total PSA
is high, but the ratio of free PSA to total PSA is also high, then you
are more likely to be free of prostate cancer. Whether or not to order
a biopsy is a matter of judgement, and different doctors may come to
different conclusions, depending on the details. If the ratio is low,
your doctor is likely to order a biopsy, but even in that case, the
result is likely to be negative. Unfortunately, biopsies may miss a
small cancer, and you may need further biopsies, particularly if the
free PSA percentage is low.
You probably don't have prostate cancer, but even if you do, it will
have been caught at an early stage, so the chances of a cure will be
quite high. Also, at your age, treatment, done by a skilled
practitioner, is less likely to lead to serious side effects such as
incontinence and impotence than would be the case in an older man.
The word 'cancer' is always scary, but don't let all this get to you.
Just take it one step at a time and go about living your life normally.
I strongly recommend Walsh's book as a source of information.
jimhoney - 04 Jan 2004 11:17 GMT
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AJ,
Just chiming in to endorse everything Leonard has said, and to add my
assurance that you can have every expectation of a good outcome to
this.
PSA screening causes worry to many men who actually have nothing to
worry about. This is one reason (in addition to cost) that Britain's
National Health Service does not do PSA screening.
I don't have any opinion on that policy. But I believe that early
detection added 25 years to my life, with no significant aftereffects
from RRP surgery.
So try to be philosophical about all this.
jimhoney
not British, but I do spend time here in the UK
dale.j. - 04 Jan 2004 11:22 GMT
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AJ,
Rather than trying to explain and not doing a very good job I'll send
you a link to a web page which will explain PSA and Free PSA. At the
bottom you'll find a graph which may help to understand the numbers
involved with the Free PSA test and what it means.
http://www.marinurology.com/articles/cap/learning/psa.htm
Dale J.

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Steve Kramer - 04 Jan 2004 11:48 GMT
AJ,
Put yourself at ease. First, few get PCa at 46. I did, but the chances of
that are small, especially if your father didn't have it at 46. Second, 2.7
may be higher than what it had been or higher than someone with a perfect
prostate, but it is not extraordinarily high. Until a couple of years ago,
most docs didn't even look hard at a pattern unless the PSA was 4.0 or
higher. Third, PSA usually rises when there is cancer present, especially
in a 46-year-old. Yours went down a notch.
I suspect your doctor is a very good doctor. He is alerted even with a 2.7,
and he is trying to diagnose what you have. The first thing he'd want to do
is elminiate cancer as a possibility. A free-PSA test will go a long way
toward that end. The higher percentage of free-PSA cells you have (versus
binded), the less likely you are to have cancer.
I finally suspect that if your free-PSA comes back at a good percentage, he
will start looking at other possible prostate problems. Or, if you are
asymptomatic, just keep testing you every 2 or 3 months.

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Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA .1 .1 .1 .3 .4 .8
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .3 .2 .2 .2 .3
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
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ajb - 04 Jan 2004 16:47 GMT
Many thanks. Your opinions and insights are much appreciated. I hope to
stay the course as recommended by my urologist and I'm sure I'll be posting
here to give updates. Having a forum like this really does help. Have a
great New Year! AJ
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Danny McCarty - 04 Jan 2004 23:53 GMT
>Subject: PSA Woes
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>of events can I expect from the next resutls. Just looking for some
>insights. Thanx. AJ
PSA of 2.7? Not too bad. The fPSA is just another blood draw. If it is less
than 25% it increases the concern. You didn't say if a DRE revealed any
hardness or lump. Otherwise, five years ago, you would have been told
everything was fine. Was that 2.7 an INCREASE of 75% or more over the
previous year? You have a very cautious doctor. At this point, it doesn't
seem likely, to me, that you will need a biopsy.