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Ken T - 16 Jul 2008 15:49 GMT
Dwight,

How's that going without pads working out for you?

I have $20 worth of Depends and absorbent underpants
ready to donate to my surgeon at my post-op session
since his catheter lady had to go looking for a diaper
because I didn't bring one on toob-out day.

Even so, I'm not quite ready to go without a maxi-pad
just yet. Always dry, never stinky, but...

Ken
Dwight - 16 Jul 2008 16:48 GMT
> Dwight,
>
> How's that going without pads working out for you?

I started wearing them again.  Just a couple of little squirts during
the day when I would stand up and such, but I decided to go back until
things clear up a little better.  It was just annoying.  I found
myself going into the bathroom and stuffing paper towels into my
shorts.  It was probably nothing more than 1/4 tsp volume, total.  But
I tend to wear the same pair of jeans for a while, and I didn't want
to end up turning heads/noses in the office when I walked by.

> I have $20 worth of Depends and absorbent underpants
> ready to donate to my surgeon at my post-op session
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> Even so, I'm not quite ready to go without a maxi-pad
> just yet. Always dry, never stinky, but...

What is the complete brand name of what you're using?
Ron B - 16 Jul 2008 17:09 GMT
I know it seems tough buddy...but you are doing SO well...that I wanted
you to know this.

You are SO eary in this thing that your progress seems wonderful.

Do the Kegels, and wear a pad if you feel like it.

All the pads have a 'smell barrier'...not a scent...but layers that take
your teaspoon of urine and bury it.

You seem to be doing so well...just hang in there.

Change when you feel ready.

You're WAY ahead of a LOT of folks.

Best of everything,

Ron B.

Chicago
Ken T - 16 Jul 2008 17:54 GMT
>> Dwight,
>>
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>
> What is the complete brand name of what you're using?

I just use the store brand maxi-pad that women use. Just
narrow things that once in place, pasted into skivvies,
you don't even know they are there. Peel strip and paste
in. Most recent, CVS house brand. No "wings" on sides.
Wings are nuisance and must be cut off with scissors. I
use just one a day and never get an odor (that I smell,
anyway). Sleep with a towel between legs at night or
napping.
I.P. Freely - 16 Jul 2008 18:46 GMT
> I just use the store brand maxi-pad that women use. Just narrow things
> that once in place, pasted into skivvies, you don't even know they are
> there. Peel strip and paste in. Most recent, CVS house brand. No "wings"
> on sides. Wings are nuisance and must be cut off with scissors. I use
> just one a day and never get an odor (that I smell, anyway). Sleep with
> a towel between legs at night or napping.

Menstrual pads -- and certainly towels -- are not designed to manage
urine. One author, I think it was Walsh, advised against using anything
except urinary incontinence pads for urinary incontinence if we care
about little things like smell and skin irritation.

I.P.
Ken T - 16 Jul 2008 20:03 GMT
>> I just use the store brand maxi-pad that women use. Just narrow things
>> that once in place, pasted into skivvies, you don't even know they are
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>
> I.P.
Wull golly, I.P. - It isn't like I don't wash the towel
on occasion. :-)

If I had any problems, I'd certainly alter the way I do
things. Incontinence, smell and skin irritation are not
problems I have now. (I guess I lucked out and my guy
did a good job while he was in there.) I joke and say
"as far as I know", but believe me, I monitor this stuff
closely. On the other hand, I don't recommend anyone do
anything that doesn't do the job for him.
Ron B - 17 Jul 2008 16:57 GMT
Ken commented on I.P.'s comments about pads...

"Wull golly, I.P. - It isn't like I don't wash the towel
on occasion. :-)"

See Ken, whatcha gotta do is ask everyone you meet...'Does my crotch
smell like pee?'

It's a sure icebreaker.

:-)  :-)

Ron B.
Dwight - 17 Jul 2008 18:12 GMT
> Ken commented on I.P.'s comments about pads...
>
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>
> Ron B.

These days I live in mortal fear of those crotch sniffing dogs.
They'll probably snort, then piss on my leg.
Ken T - 17 Jul 2008 19:16 GMT
> Ken commented on I.P.'s comments about pads...
>
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>
> Ron B.

I did that for the first week or so, but nobody said I
smelled, like urine anyway, so I just go about my
business without a care in the woild. Two people said I
have the aroma of old barnacles, which if true, would
far overplay any random pee drippings. Changed my socks
more than once a week and that went away.

One can be "gamey" without smelling like urine. Just
pick your odor and go with it.

KT
Ron B - 20 Jul 2008 13:38 GMT
Ken said:

"Just pick your odor and go with it."

I choose Pantene.

"Do I smell...Pantene?"

(Seinfeld joke for oitbeso :-)
I.P. Freely - 17 Jul 2008 19:33 GMT
> Ken commented on I.P.'s comments about pads...
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> It's a sure icebreaker.

And 10,000 dogs can't be wrong.

I.P.
Steve Kramer - 16 Jul 2008 18:34 GMT
<< What is the complete brand name of what you're using?

I and others believe that Tena Serenity for Men are the best without a
second best.  They're the only ones I've seen shaped for a man.

Signature

PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  <.1  <.1  <.1  .27  .37  .75            PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32                       PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145       PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1  2/12/08
Illegitimati non carborundum

I.P. Freely - 16 Jul 2008 21:09 GMT
> [the] Tena Serenity for Men [is]  the only ones I've seen shaped for a man.

I'd say the ActiCuf fills that bill, too.
See http://www.acticuf.com/acticuf-instructions.php .

I.P.
Dwight - 17 Jul 2008 04:15 GMT
> << What is the complete brand name of what you're using?
>
> I and others believe that Tena Serenity for Men are the best without a
> second best.  They're the only ones I've seen shaped for a man.

You know, I have those, and I prefer the Depends instead.  At first,
when I was leaking a lot, the Depends were not adequate.  I had
leaking over the side.  I tried the Serenity.  It was ok, but I found
that, because they seem to be thinner, they will wad together easier
between my legs, leaving a narrower area to catch the urine.  The
Depends seem to keep their width better, and I'm back to using those
more now.  I think they both have their use though.
Steve Kramer - 17 Jul 2008 12:05 GMT
>> The
>> Depends seem to keep their width better, and I'm back to using those
>> more now.  I think they both have their use though.

I do use Depends when I'm golfing or helping people move furniture, et al.
Dwight - 17 Jul 2008 14:56 GMT
> >> The
> >> Depends seem to keep their width better, and I'm back to using those
> >> more now.  I think they both have their use though.
>
> I do use Depends when I'm golfing or helping people move furniture, et al.

This bout with cancer has shown me the deeper meaning to life,
therefore, I will never help people move furniture again.  Life is too
short.  ;-)

But, perhaps this is a left-over from when I owned a truck.
Steve Kramer - 17 Jul 2008 15:49 GMT
>> This bout with cancer has shown me the deeper meaning to life,
>> therefore, I will never help people move furniture again.  Life is too
>> short.  ;-)

I'm 6'5" and weight 330 and own a Ford F-150.  I don't have a choice...  :-)

>> But, perhaps this is a left-over from when I owned a truck.

Oh, so you know the drill.
Dwight - 17 Jul 2008 16:22 GMT
> >> This bout with cancer has shown me the deeper meaning to life,
> >> therefore, I will never help people move furniture again.  Life is too
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Oh, so you know the drill.

I saw a bumpersticker on a truck the other day, one like I'd thought
of making myself at one time:

"Yes, this is my truck, and, No I won't help you move"
Steve Kramer - 17 Jul 2008 19:44 GMT
I saw a bumpersticker on a truck the other day, one like I'd thought
of making myself at one time:

"Yes, this is my truck, and, No I won't help you move"

==>  Good one!  Actually, I don't mind.  It even helps to know that I can
still do something as a man, if you know what I mean.

Signature

PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  <.1  <.1  <.1  .27  .37  .75            PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32                       PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145       PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1  2/12/08
Illegitimati non carborundum

Dwight - 20 Jul 2008 14:27 GMT
> I saw a bumpersticker on a truck the other day, one like I'd thought
> of making myself at one time:
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> ==>  Good one!  Actually, I don't mind.  It even helps to know that I can
> still do something as a man, if you know what I mean.

Do you have some of those chrome plated testicles hanging from the
bumper?  Moo.

I heard some state, maybe Florida, is trying to ban those.
Ken T - 20 Jul 2008 15:25 GMT
>> I saw a bumpersticker on a truck the other day, one like I'd thought
>> of making myself at one time:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> I heard some state, maybe Florida, is trying to ban those.

Not ban... they want to TAX them. You can have a set on
your bumper or trailer hitch, but you'll have to
register them and pay a fee.
Ron B - 17 Jul 2008 16:51 GMT
About pads, Steve K said:

"I and others believe that Tena Serenity for Men are the best without a
second best. They're the only ones I've seen shaped for a man."

Absolutely.

They have many different sizes and thicknesses as you improve...and you
will.

They can't be beat.
Ron B - 16 Jul 2008 17:01 GMT
I brought a few Depends on the cath-out day.

The nurse told me that the tube-out appointment...is the ONE appointment
that guys never miss or are late for.  :-)

Best,

Ron B.

Chicago
Ken T - 16 Jul 2008 17:54 GMT
> I brought a few Depends on the cath-out day.
>
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>
> Chicago

I was right there on time. Early, in fact. Just in case
they could slip me in beforehand. They did.
My cousin drove me up, in case... and he was amazed at
how much my mood improved afterward. :-)
 
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