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Q. for those who have had RP surgery......

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SexyHeSays - 31 Dec 2003 16:27 GMT
My surgery is next week, and I should have thought to ask my surgeon this
question when I last met with him, but since I didn't -

When do they put the catheter "IN"?  Before, or after the anesthetic takes
effect?

Thanks, guys!

Rus (getting nervous about the surgery)
Massachusetts
Steve Kramer - 31 Dec 2003 16:41 GMT
You go to sleep all happy and feeling fine.  You wake up with no prostate
and a catheter up your penis.

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> My surgery is next week, and I should have thought to ask my surgeon this
> question when I last met with him, but since I didn't -
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Rus (getting nervous about the surgery)
> Massachusetts
Wake - 31 Dec 2003 16:57 GMT
> You go to sleep all happy and feeling fine.  You wake up with no prostate
> and a catheter up your penis.

What happens to the "all happy and feeling fine"?

I guess we will be happy right away about no prostate, but feeling fine
might take a few days?
SexyHeSays - 31 Dec 2003 17:23 GMT
>I guess we will be happy right away about no prostate, but feeling fine
>might take a few days?

Actually, happy right away about no cancer....    (in all probablity)

Rus
Massachusetts
Ernest Gudath - 31 Dec 2003 19:23 GMT
> > You go to sleep all happy and feeling fine.  You wake up with no prostate
> > and a catheter up your penis.
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> I guess we will be happy right away about no prostate, but feeling fine
> might take a few days?

I woke up all happy and feeling fine, and felt that way for a day or two. I
suspect that whatever they were putting in the i.v. had something to do with
it.
Steve Kramer - 01 Jan 2004 01:36 GMT
I went to sleep feeling great.  I woke up feeling groggy, but happy
nonetheless.  Of course I had a dozen of my family members and a subordinate
in the waiting room so loud that I heard them on the way to my room.

I never had pain.  None.  That epdural was incredible.  I had feeling all
around the incision and the rest of my body, but as long as I had the
epidural, no pain.

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>
> > You go to sleep all happy and feeling fine.  You wake up with no prostate
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I guess we will be happy right away about no prostate, but feeling fine
> might take a few days?
Alan Meyer - 31 Dec 2003 21:38 GMT
> You go to sleep all happy and feeling fine.  You wake up with no prostate
> and a catheter up your penis.

I had general anaesthesia for my brachytherapy.

First they gave me some drug that was supposed to "relax"
me.  I told them I was already relaxed, but the doc said, well,
I'll give you 1/4 of the dose then.  But I think he was
humoring me and gave me a big slug of the stuff.

I continued to be awake and cracking jokes while they
wheeled me down the hall - which is the last thing I
remember.  I'm told the "relaxing" drug, whatever it was
doesn't knock me out, but is an "amnestic", so I can't
remember anything from a few minutes after I got it.

I'd love to know what I said and how much I embarrassed
myself during the period I can't remember and before they
completely knocked me out.

I woke up with a tube in my penis.  A very strange sensation
it was.  The doc came by and pulled it out a couple hours
after I woke up and made me pee for her to be sure she
didn't need to put it back in.  I've never been more determined
to pee.

For the next couple of days I had occasional bubbles of
air come out together with bits of blood and lots of urine.

But, as everyone else who has been through it has said,
it looks more traumatic than it really is.  The big thing, the
main thing, the thing that really counts, is getting rid of the
cancer.

   Alan
Beverley - 01 Jan 2004 06:51 GMT
Well, you must be a happy drunk! Because the effect is about the same. My
darling hubby was a real comedian. Honestly I don't remember a thing he said
but he too was darn funny. Of course he's always been a happy person when
he's had a few drinks. (Unlike some men who get really mean when they've had
a few too many.)

Yes, the important thing is to get rid of the cancer. Just knowing that
you've done something positive to rid your body of cancer is a step in the
right direction. That brings a feeling of satisfaction and makes all the
little (and not so little) aches and pains worthwhile.
Bev

> > You go to sleep all happy and feeling fine.  You wake up with no prostate
> > and a catheter up your penis.
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>
>     Alan
dale.j. - 31 Dec 2003 18:13 GMT
> My surgery is next week, and I should have thought to ask my surgeon this
> question when I last met with him, but since I didn't -
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Rus (getting nervous about the surgery)
> Massachusetts

If I remember correctly they installed the catheter first thing when the
operation is started.

I saw this procedure on TV once that's why I know.  The only thing I
remember is the doctor removing it and of course living with the @#%$&
thing for two weeks.  Forget about it .... you'll be asleep like a baby.

Dale J.

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Steve Kramer - 01 Jan 2004 01:38 GMT
> If I remember correctly they installed the catheter first thing when the
> operation is started.

Maybe, but they'ed have to remove it again when they cut out the prostate
and sew the urethra back together.

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RRP 12/15/2000
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .3  .4  .8
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .3 .2  .2  .2 .3
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
PSA  .1
Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03

dale.j. - 01 Jan 2004 02:27 GMT
> > If I remember correctly they installed the catheter first thing when the
> > operation is started.
>
> Maybe, but they'ed have to remove it again when they cut out the prostate
> and sew the urethra back together.

There would be a little problem with that.  I'll have to look at the
vidio again, but it seems like it was right at the beginning, unless
they clipped (nopun) some of the operation out.

Dale J.

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Peter Dayton - 02 Jan 2004 05:11 GMT
got a reject the first mailing so here's my reply again:

They place the catheter in before you are returned to your hospital room.
You wake up not knowing how it got there

> My surgery is next week, and I should have thought to ask my surgeon this
> question when I last met with him, but since I didn't -
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Rus (getting nervous about the surgery)
> Massachusetts
DanR - 02 Jan 2004 19:49 GMT
If I recall properly, they will install a catheter before the surgery
begins to ensure an empty bladder, at some point during the operation
that one is cut and removed (along with the prostate) and a new one is
installed and that gets to be your new best friend for a few weeks.
More of an annoyance than a pain.

Best of luck and in a few months it will all seem like speed bump in the
road of life.
DanR
 
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