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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / May 2008Blood Clot In Urine
I'm on the catheter, 6th day since operation. Have been noticing blood clots in urine. Instructions say to call surgeon if I get "large" blood clots. Yesterday's 2 were arguable about "large". Today's was maybe 1/16" or so in diameter, although that might be maginified by the curvature of the plastic tubing, and the length of the diameter of a quarter. Called, left message, it's Memorial day. Expect reply tomorrow. Anyone have any experience with this - what might be going on? Too much sitting? Dunno how that would correlate, but its the only thing I can think of that I might not be doing 100% right. I guess I'll go for a walk now - its 3 PM and I haven't gotten that in yet. I've got an acre, I guess I could get around that for a walk. DM > I'm on the catheter, 6th day since operation. Have been noticing blood > clots [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > DM Happened to me as well---even a couple of weeks into the catheter---especially after activity. The uro was not concerned. Mine were varying sizes---sometimes even a bit larger than yours. Eventually cleared up. >> I'm on the catheter, 6th day since operation. Have been noticing blood >> clots [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >varying sizes---sometimes even a bit larger than yours. Eventually cleared >up. Hi Claude, Thanks for the feedback. I'm only a "little" scared - about the worst thing I think could happen would be a clog of the catheter, but none of 'em have been that large. This latest one turned out to be a bit smaller than I described because the clear plastic tubing was magnifying it. When I got it into the collection bag, it was even smaller, although longer - I found out that it was folded on itself. I think I'll quit worrying for now... <G> Thanks again, DM > >> I'm on the catheter, 6th day since operation. Have been noticing blood > >> clots [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > I think I'll quit worrying for now... <G> I'm at 12 days after surgery. My instructions were to not be concerned about any clots under one inch long. Probably my biggest has been 3/8". Most much smaller. I'm still getting some at this point. I have had what the doctor is telling me are bladder spasms, which are forcing urine around the catheter and out. And I believe a clot was pushed out along the outside of the catheter during the first spasm. That did NOT feel good. Hang in there DM. Dwight >> >> I'm on the catheter, 6th day since operation. Have been noticing blood >> >> clots [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >Dwight Thanks, Dwight. No, I imagine a clot travelling on the outside of the catheter would not be comfortable. I guess I'm still having a muck better time of it than some. The clot, omce I got it down in the collection bag, _was_ over an inch long but with a tiny whispy tail. Dunno what's going on... DM > Thanks, Dwight. No, I imagine a clot travelling on the outside of the > catheter would not be comfortable. I guess I'm still having a muck better time > of it than some. Just in case, I was't trying to trump you. And you still have time to catch up! ;-) We have no experience with this stuff, and no one close by who does. It's only natural to hyper-focus on this stuff and wonder what the hell is going on. I called the hospital at 2:30 in the morning after I got that first bladder spasm. They asked "Is this urgent?" I said "I don't really know." They seemed to understand, and put me through to the on-call doctor. Dwight > > Thanks, Dwight. No, I imagine a clot travelling on the outside of the > > catheter would not be comfortable. I guess I'm still having a muck better time [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Dwight Ok, well, I guess I spoke too soon. I just had something 2" long and red come out of me through the catheter. And it almost looks like it could be a ring or loop. >> > Thanks, Dwight. No, I imagine a clot travelling on the outside of the >> > catheter would not be comfortable. I guess I'm still having a muck better time [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >red come out of me through the catheter. And it almost looks like it >could be a ring or loop. Well, nuts... that's not good news. Not sure what we're doing wrong here, am increasing my walking starting tomorrow tho. Sitting on one of those "invalid rings" I got at the pharmacy, and that's about all I can think of to do about it. Have been wearing pants the last few hours, so if I passed a clot, I don't know about it... DM > On May 26, 4:16 pm, Danger Mouse <danger_mo...@att.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Dwight Ok, well, I guess I spoke too soon. I just had something 2" long and red come out of me through the catheter. And it almost looks like it could be a ring or loop. ==> I think I'd call the docs on that one. Still, you're probably okay, but I think a clot of that size is worth reporting.  SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years Casodex added daily 07/06 PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 2/12/08 Non Illegitimi Carborundum > > On May 26, 4:16 pm, Danger Mouse <danger_mo...@att.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > ==> I think I'd call the docs on that one. Still, you're probably okay, > but I think a clot of that size is worth reporting. Got the catheter out this morning. Reported it to the very lovely and sweet woman who removed my catheter. She said to talk to my surgeon's nurse. I think I'd like to get another catheter in so I can go see her again. >> > On May 26, 4:16 pm, Danger Mouse <danger_mo...@att.net> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >nurse. I think I'd like to get another catheter in so I can go see >her again. Ohhhh... catheter gone... Sweet! Hopefully the clotting will not be found to be a large problem. I got a call back from my surgeon's nurse this morning and she listened to me describe it and asked about my urine color and number of clots. I've only had 3 "big" ones, 2 Sunday and 1 yesterday. She said not to worry. I guess I won't worry. Was the catheter removal painful? I've found that living with the catheter is not nearly as hard as I had suspected it was. Worst thing is that I could use a little more tubing for the night bag. I have some more - may splice it in there tonight. Alternative is to not use the bag and let the catheter drain into a diaper since I have quite a significant stockpile of those. I could at least roll over then, and sleep on my right side as well as my left side. But I've occasionally reached the end of the stretch on the tubing, then it pops out of its socket and leaks on my shorts and spotted the bed this morning. Nuts. DM Got the catheter out this morning. Reported it to the very lovely and sweet woman who removed my catheter. She said to talk to my surgeon's nurse. I think I'd like to get another catheter in so I can go see her again. ===> On January 2, 2001, I looked back at the orderly when my nurse pulled out the catheter and said, "Melvin, could you check it for me? I think she pulled my dick off!" > Got the catheter out this morning. Reported it to the very lovely and > sweet woman who removed my catheter. She said to talk to my surgeon's [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > out the catheter and said, "Melvin, could you check it for me? I think she > pulled my dick off!" Mine didn't hurt, but it felt odd, like some slippery reptile had shot out of me. >> Got the catheter out this morning. Reported it to the very lovely and >> sweet woman who removed my catheter. She said to talk to my surgeon's [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Mine didn't hurt, but it felt odd, like some slippery reptile had shot > out of me. I've had it removed two different ways: an extremely quick yank and a prompt-but-not-rushed pull/slither. The former stung a great deal; the latter was merely noticeable, not the least bit painful. When I removed the third and last one myself, *guess which way I did it*. I.P. > ===> On January 2, 2001, I looked back at the orderly when my nurse pulled > out the catheter and said, "Melvin, could you check it for me? I think she > pulled my dick off!" Mine didn't hurt, but it felt odd, like some slippery reptile had shot out of me. ---> Mine didn't hurt either, but it sure felt like more than a plastic tube was removed. On May 27, 3:42 pm, "Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote: > "Dwight" <nodamnspa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > out the catheter and said, "Melvin, could you check it for me? I think she > pulled my dick off!" Mine didn't hurt, but it felt odd, like some slippery reptile had shot out of me. x-no-archives: yes I shared this story a few years ago, but I'll repeat it for the newcomers who can be grateful for the nice, easy removal. While recovering from my RP six years ago, my roommate was a man in his late 70's. His story put my teeth on edge when I heard it. Also made me very aware of what the nurse was doing when she removed my catheter. This was a prolonged stay for him. He came in for surgical treatment of benign prostate enlargement. A catheter was inserted after the procedure. On the day of removal a nurse came in, trailed by a bevy of students. She was going to instruct them on proper removal of the catheter. Despite all the instruction, she neglected to deflate completely the anchor inside the bladder before giving it that nice decisive yank. Imagine the agony. Needless to say, he was in for a prolonged stay to repair the damages. I made sure to relate that incident to the nurse right before she removed mine. Claude....I just checked Google Archives to be sure and you MUST put that code in at the very TOP of the post, as I have above. In other words, as the very FIRST thing.....for it to work. Yours below is not exempt from archiving cuz you inserted it half way down. And if you get any hassle from anyone, know that the above code is rarely used, so some may not understand why you are putting it in. Some may very well understand, but just like to kvetch. Cheers.....Heather > On May 27, 3:42 pm, "Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote: >> "Dwight" <nodamnspa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > I made sure to relate that incident to the nurse right before she > removed mine. So, in order for it to work, I should top post? > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> I made sure to relate that incident to the nurse right before she removed >> mine. > So, in order for it to work, I should top post? No, not necessary. Just make sure that the *x-no-archive: yes* is at the very top and then post as you usually do. Bottom or interspersed, etc. It should work because I should imagine the code just tells Google not to archive the post. I am testing that with this post and leaving stuff in to make sure it covers all of the post. Cheers....Heather >> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Cheers.....Heather > So, in order for it to work, I should top post? No, not necessary. Just make sure that the *x-no-archive: yes* is at the very top and then post as you usually do. Bottom or interspersed, etc. It should work because I should imagine the code just tells Google not to archive the post. I am testing that with this post and leaving stuff in to make sure it covers all of the post. Cheers....Heather >> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Cheers.....Heather > So, in order for it to work, I should top post? No, not necessary. Just make sure that the *x-no-archive: yes* is at the very top and then post as you usually do. Bottom or interspersed, etc. It should work because I should imagine the code just tells Google not to archive the post. I am testing that with this post and leaving stuff in to make sure it covers all of the post. Cheers....Heather >> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Cheers.....Heather Oops, sorry about that. The *Google Gods* got me. I tried to send it via Motzarella and it didn't seem to go, so switched to aioe.org and sent it. The good news is that everyone of them is NOT archived. Got it, Claude? If you have any other questions, we can converse via email, if you wish. I will post a gmail address if you want it. Best....Heather > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>> >>> Cheers.....Heather > Oops, sorry about that. The *Google Gods* got me. I tried to send it via > Motzarella and it didn't seem to go, so switched to aioe.org and sent it. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>>> >>>> Cheers.....Heather Thanks again, Heather. C. > I'm on the catheter, 6th day since operation. Have been noticing blood clots > in urine. Instructions say to call surgeon if I get "large" blood clots. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > DM I might have given notice to a half-inch clot, but a millimeter? Heck, I've passed kidney stones bigger than that -- at the airport -- just before boarding a flight. By my 6th day, I was briskly walking miles, often outpacing staff and visitors in hospital corridors, after having not only my prostate but half my colon and dozens of lymph nodes removed through an open pit mine. Maybe that acre should be a block or three ... if you feel up to it ... a few times a day. OTOH, I was pushing a catheter tower on tile floors, not wearing a bag on my leg while trekking cross-country. YMMV. I.P. >> I'm on the catheter, 6th day since operation. Have been noticing blood clots >> in urine. Instructions say to call surgeon if I get "large" blood clots. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >I've passed kidney stones bigger than that -- at the airport -- just >before boarding a flight. Yeah, OK, I get it! <GGG> >By my 6th day, I was briskly walking miles, often outpacing staff and >visitors in hospital corridors, after having not only my prostate but >half my colon and dozens of lymph nodes removed through an open pit >mine. Open pit mine... I like that. I was only in the hospital 2 days, tho, a visit with the robot. >Maybe that acre should be a block or three ... if you feel up to >it ... a few times a day. OTOH, I was pushing a catheter tower on tile >floors, not wearing a bag on my leg while trekking cross-country. YMMV. > >I.P. I feel that I don't have any after-effects of the anesthetic, yet I have a pretty good case of CRS (can't remember squat) lately. I keep having to go back to the handout they gave at the hospital, and it says to walk 3 times daily. It doesn't say how far, tho. I'm a bit short on the number of walks today - the previous days have been walking to the theater from the car, back again, car into house, going out to get the paper, etc. Today's the 1st day I actually walked around the property. Will do better tomorrow. I'm not overly fat or anything, but walking just to be walking, without a destination, is not a favorite activity. And, there's nothing around here within a reasonable distance to serve as a reasonable destination. Tomorrow I think I'm going to work in a session with my camera and tripod, and see how close-up pictures I can get of the top of my radio tower where my two meter ham antenna is. It is not working well. There's almost certainly a poor connection at the bottom of this, but where is it? Maybe I can see it. Anyway, I can get at it in July, when I'll feel ok about the physical effort of tilting the tower over. It is an eat-your-Wheaties endeavor, with a socket wrench and a several-foot-long extension on its handle to apply around 110 ft-lbs of torque for many, many turns of a 6' long screw to lay the tower over. And, when the tower is about 19 feet off the ground, I have to climb my 16' step ladder and loosen some nuts to swivel the low band beam horizontal. Fairly dangerous, but the easy cure is a $750 item that swivels the antenna automatically. Nope, not any time soon. But maybe I can figure out the smaller antenna on top - maybe one of the radio club members will know how to get hold of a bucket truck and I won't have to lay it over at all, if I can only find what's wrong in the 1st place, beforehand. Who knows, I might even see a burned spot where maybe it was destroyed by lightning while I wasn't looking. DM > walking just to be walking, without a destination, is not > a favorite activity. Neither is the gym, but its benefits are absolutely immense. I.P. >> walking just to be walking, without a destination, is not >> a favorite activity. > >Neither is the gym, but its benefits are absolutely immense. > >I.P. I get along with the gym a lot better - I rather like the atmosphere. If my instractions didn't say I shouldn't drive until the catheter is removed, I'd probably go to the gym and use the treadmill (and talk to people, listen to the music, watch other people work out, etc. etc.) > Will do better tomorrow. I'm not overly > fat or anything, but walking just to be walking, without a destination, is > not > a favorite activity. And, there's nothing around here within a reasonable > distance to serve as a reasonable destination. I spent most of my life thinking the same thing, but when I was dx'd and told that I would have major surgery, I immediately started going to the healthplex and walking the treadmill. Soon worked up to two miles in 34 minutes (arbitrary goal). The last week before my surgery was spent on a cruise and I was up on the bow walking on a treadmill every morning. I went into the hospital on DEC 15 and got out DEC 23 (complications). Bought a small bag for walking and was back on the treadmill on the 26th. By Spring I grew tired of the treadmill and went to a ½-mile track in a small park. Six times around that bored me as much as the treadmill. I now drive to four different parks with longer tracks and/or hiking trails. The shortest of these is 2½ miles, but with two Grade 3 hills and beautiful scenery. The most I ever do is 5 miles, but usually only at charity walks. I once walked 3-5 miles a day, 3-5 times a week, but I have since settled into a routine of 2.5 to 3.4 miles a day, 3 to 5 times a week. But, I am not walking just to be walking. I'm walking to beat the effects of cancer, to beat the effects of treatment, and maybe to beat the timeline of cancer. SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years Casodex added daily 07/06 PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 2/12/08 Non Illegitimi Carborundum |
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