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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / May 2008I'm back from the robot attack.
Feeling like an ad for a Vegamatic. Actually I'm not that bad. Pain is way less than I thought it would be. Urine bag is annoying, not tremendously so. Finding a good sleeping position that can drain the catheter and accommodate my sleep apnea has been a little chore, but I think I've got it worked out. Lying down is sometimes problematic, trying to keep any stress off my stomach. They said the operation went well, went back together well, my urine was clear within a few hours (or rather apple juice color, not cranberry juice color). UCSF might be poorly organized, but the people sure are nice. Right now my greatest pleasure is passing gas. I think I passed gas for maybe 15 seconds at one time last night, which took a great load off of my mind. Gained about 12 lbs in water/saline weight. That's starting to come off. I'm in good spirits. They still have to biopsy the nodes and gland to make sure there were no positive margins. Had a drain in my side after surgery that kept producing Hawaiin Punch, but it just didn't taste the same. Sounds like "So far, so good." Keep up the good work! I was amazed at the lack of pain after my encounter with the robot at Henry Ford in Detroit. I hope you have a similar experience. In an earlier note, you seemed concerned about how long the surgery would take. How long were you under? Mine lasted 4 1/4 hours but the surgeon had a little difficulty putting me back together because of my belly and narrow pelvis. He said I made him wish he had studied accounting instead of medicine. Everything is working well, so I'm happy with that. Let us know how the post-op biopsy goes and good luck! Jim > Feeling like an ad for a Vegamatic. Actually I'm not that bad. Pain > is way less than I thought it would be. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Had a drain in my side after surgery that kept producing Hawaiin > Punch, but it just didn't taste the same. Excellent report. Gourd Dancer > Sounds like "So far, so good." Keep up the good work! > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> Had a drain in my side after surgery that kept producing Hawaiin >> Punch, but it just didn't taste the same. > Sounds like "So far, so good." Keep up the good work! > > I was amazed at the lack of pain after my encounter with the robot at Henry > Ford in Detroit. I hope you have a similar experience. In an earlier note, > you seemed concerned about how long the surgery would take. How long were > you under? I THINK it was 4 hours. I remember waking up in recovery at 7pm, and was wheeled into the operating room at 2:30pm. I think right about the time I was feeling around to see if I had a catheter in, my girlfriend was at my side telling me everything went well. Congrats on your recovery and everything going well. I'm a bit confused though on the gas thing, > Right now my greatest pleasure is passing gas. I think I passed gas > for maybe 15 seconds at one time last night, which took a great load > off of my mind. Where exactly do you store your gas so that its passing offers relief to your mind? :>) Dave Perry On May 16, 3:56 pm, djperr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Congrats on your recovery and everything going well. I'm a bit > confused though on the gas thing, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Dave Perry Why, near where I tend to do my thinking, silly. Glad to see they didn't remove your sense of humour either......one can assume it is somewhere near where you do your thinking, LOL. Glad to see you came thru this so well. Attitude is *everything*.....and yours is just super!! Goodonya, mate. Cheers from the Great White North......Heather (and Ron) On May 16, 3:56 pm, djperr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Congrats on your recovery and everything going well. I'm a bit > confused though on the gas thing, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Dave Perry Why, near where I tend to do my thinking, silly. > Congrats on your recovery and everything going well. I'm a bit > confused though on the gas thing, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Where exactly do you store your gas so that its passing offers relief > to your mind? Rhetorical question, I know, but you store it ANYPLACE other than in your gut. I had my RRP the old fashioned way with an excellent surgeon and about the only really serious pain I had was before I knocked down the wall in my private room with a gas bomb that would have violated the Geneva Convention if they'd found out about. I swear that I saw God as I was trumpeting but man o man did that ever feel good. Didn't it guys?<g> Congrats on the apparently successful outcome, Dwight! The best is yet to come. You can sit there and laugh at the television commercials for BPH while you eat dinner<g> Hi Dwight.... Get a recliner.......really.... It is much more comfortable.... Good for you! Get up and walk....... congradualtions on your arrival home........ (an official member of a group that no one wants to be in) jloomis > Feeling like an ad for a Vegamatic. Actually I'm not that bad. Pain > is way less than I thought it would be. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Had a drain in my side after surgery that kept producing Hawaiin > Punch, but it just didn't taste the same. > Hi Dwight.... > Get a recliner.......really.... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > (an official member of a group that no one wants to be in) > jloomis"Dwight" <nodamnspa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message I don't have the room at home for one, nor the bucks either right now. >Feeling like an ad for a Vegamatic. Actually I'm not that bad. Pain >is way less than I thought it would be. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >Had a drain in my side after surgery that kept producing Hawaiin >Punch, but it just didn't taste the same. That would be the Jackson Pratt drain. What's another scar though in the over all scheme of things. Glad the cath doesn't bother you, as I hated that that damn tube. Question, are you walking? I had to walk one mile at 5AM the following morning of my operation and 3 miles every day thereafter. Congrats on getting through the surgery.  SignaturePSA @ 45 yrs. = 4.7 02/06/2007 Biopsy 03/16/2007 G7(3+4),T1c RLRP 06/12/2007 G7(3+4),T2cN0M0 Neg margins PSA 07/16/2007 = <0.1 PSA 09/12/2007 = <0.1 PSA 12/18/2007 = <0.1 PSA 03/12/2008 = <0.1 > On Fri, 16 May 2008 12:59:52 -0700 (PDT), Dwight > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Question, are you walking? I had to walk one mile at 5AM the following > morning of my operation and 3 miles every day thereafter. good lard, am I supposed to be walking that much? I'm walking around the house, but nothing extended, though I wouldn't mind going for a jaunt. I was walking quite a bit in the hospital on the morning after surgery, but not sure it was a mile. I know we're all different and our bodies respond differently. They say walk a lot, but I walked too much. The result was swelling in the area of the surgery and everything hanging down from there! NO GOOD! I had to back off on the walking to let the swelling go down. The advise I got when I went in to let the doc check the swelling was take short, easy walks frequently, but no long or strenuous walks - avoid hills. Keep it up. You're doing fine! Burney >good lard, am I supposed to be walking that much? I'm walking around >the house, but nothing extended, though I wouldn't mind going for a >jaunt. I was walking quite a bit in the hospital on the morning after >surgery, but not sure it was a mile. RP in 1995 (age 52) RT in 2000 ADT (Casodex) 10/06 - 8/07 Latest PSA - 0.23 >> <nodamnspa...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >Feeling like an ad for a Vegamatic. Actually I'm not that bad. Pain [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >jaunt. I was walking quite a bit in the hospital on the morning after >surgery, but not sure it was a mile. My physician was big on the walking, stating that it absolutely helped with recovery and I agree that it helped me. That said every Doc and patient varies in theory. SignaturePSA @ 45 yrs. = 4.7 02/06/2007 Biopsy 03/16/2007 G7(3+4),T1c RLRP 06/12/2007 G7(3+4),T2cN0M0 Neg margins PSA 07/16/2007 = <0.1 PSA 09/12/2007 = <0.1 PSA 12/18/2007 = <0.1 PSA 03/12/2008 = <0.1 > >Had a drain in my side after surgery that kept producing Hawaiin > >Punch, but it just didn't taste the same. > > That would be the Jackson Pratt drain. What's another scar though in At one point in the hospital, I felt a pain in my side where the drain was, then noticed that my girlfriend had sat on the drain bulb, which was hidden under my gown. I don't think she necessarily "pumped me up", but I'm pretty sure the flow reversed for a bit there. After that I pulled the bulb out to where we could both see it, and avoid it. Told the nurse about it when he came in and he said "Well, I bet that's the last time THAT will happen!". Heeee-yup. Boy, when they removed thing, just whipped it out, that was an odd feeling. My stomach muscles tensed reflexively, probably making it worse too. I"m glad the damned thing is gone. >> >Had a drain in my side after surgery that kept producing Hawaiin >> >Punch, but it just didn't taste the same. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >that I pulled the bulb out to where we could both see it, and avoid >it. Nothing like the Hanz and Franz treatment after having your walnut cut out. >Told the nurse about it when he came in and he said "Well, I bet >that's the last time THAT will happen!". Heeee-yup. > >Boy, when they removed thing, just whipped it out, that was an odd >feeling. My stomach muscles tensed reflexively, probably making it >worse too. I"m glad the damned thing is gone. I agree that was weird when they yanked it. I bleed for a little bit out of there but nothing substantial considering the size of the hole it left. SignaturePSA @ 45 yrs. = 4.7 02/06/2007 Biopsy 03/16/2007 G7(3+4),T1c RLRP 06/12/2007 G7(3+4),T2cN0M0 Neg margins PSA 07/16/2007 = <0.1 PSA 09/12/2007 = <0.1 PSA 12/18/2007 = <0.1 PSA 03/12/2008 = <0.1 snip..... >Question, are you walking? I had to walk one mile at 5AM the following >morning of my operation and 3 miles every day thereafter. Wow! 3 miles a day... I had standard surgery and when got back home some 5 days later any effort would make me feel VERY tired. I am sure I could not walk even a mile. At that time I managed to walk only pretty small distances in and around the house. Just >snip..... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Just All I can say is that I was very happy that last June was relatively cool without that damned humidity. That would've been unbearable. SignaturePSA @ 45 yrs. = 4.7 02/06/2007 Biopsy 03/16/2007 G7(3+4),T1c RLRP 06/12/2007 G7(3+4),T2cN0M0 Neg margins PSA 07/16/2007 = <0.1 PSA 09/12/2007 = <0.1 PSA 12/18/2007 = <0.1 PSA 03/12/2008 = <0.1 > Feeling like an ad for a Vegamatic. Actually I'm not that bad. Pain > is way less than I thought it would be. > > Urine bag is annoying, not tremendously so. It gets almost comical reading these words almost every time someone comes back from surgery. And, you words after losing the bag will be, "Thank God the bag is gone!" > "Thank God the bag is gone!" HEY ... NO POLITICS ALLOWED!!! I.P. >> "Thank God the bag is gone!" > > HEY ... NO POLITICS ALLOWED!!! > > I.P. Ooops. I was going to correct you, but I just got it. Good one! > > Feeling like an ad for a Vegamatic. Actually I'm not that bad. Pain > > is way less than I thought it would be. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > And, you words after losing the bag will be, "Thank God the bag is gone!" And I just got past "THE DREADED BOWEL MOVEMENT". Thank god for stool softeners. Of course I spent a few hours thinking "Why am I hurting THERE?" >> Feeling like an ad for a Vegamatic. Actually I'm not that bad. Pain >> is way less than I thought it would be. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > And, you words after losing the bag will be, "Thank God the bag is gone!" Contrarian view. While I was on the catheter, I didnt have to get up once during the night to go to the john. The bliss of an all-night sleep. > > Feeling like an ad for a Vegamatic. Actually I'm not that bad. Pain > > is way less than I thought it would be. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > And, you words after losing the bag will be, "Thank God the bag is gone!" I had a mild heart attack last year and underwend 3 Angiograms. They hook you up to saline and you can't move for 5-6 hours after the procedure. The first two times, I had to be catheterized and I believe this was the worst part of the whole experience. Thing is...I just can't piss lying down. The second time, I tried to tough it out, but the nurse said in about 10 minutes, I'd be begging to be cath'd. She was right...over a litre later it did feel much better. The third time, I managed to stick it out for the whole 6 hours, got up and went to the bathroom under my own steam. That had to be the most satisfying leak I ever took in my life. Pure bliss. I sincerely hope I never have to have another one of those bastards. John > Feeling like an ad for a Vegamatic. Actually I'm not that bad. Pain > is way less than I thought it would be. Glad to hear it Dwight! John
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