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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / April 2008without casodex
got results of apr 14. 2 months without casodex and without "nothing" my PSA jumped again to 0,689. Awaiting oncologist's advise. Colophony > got results of apr 14. > 2 months without casodex and without "nothing" my PSA jumped again to > 0,689. > Awaiting oncologist's advise. I think he's going to say, "you had a good 1¼ years, Colophony." I'm sorry to see your streak has ended, my friend.  SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years Casodex added daily 07/06 PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 2/12/08 Non Illegitimi Carborundum > ... > I think he's going to say, "you had a good 1¼ years, Colophony." > > I'm sorry to see your streak has ended, my friend. > ... Yes, but maybe only for a while. People who go on intermittent hormone therapy can often get back off again after they've been on again. You may need to go back on ADT. But then sometime you may be able to get off again. And if you need to go back again you may be able to get off still again. Meanwhile the research propeller heads are working away and more options may come up. Best of luck to you. Alan > > got results of apr 14. > > 2 months without casodex and without "nothing" my PSA jumped again to [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 �2/12/08 > Non Illegitimi Carborundum Why is a .689 psa regarded as so bad? How do we know it won't just stay there? What happens with such a low post op psa? Absence any positive scans, isn't it just a number? I hope you are right, however next psa test is scheduled for june...let's keep fingers crossed. Colophony On Apr 21, 3:51?pm, "Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote: > "colophony" <colophony2...@yahoo.it> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 ?2/12/08 > Non Illegitimi Carborundum Why is a .689 psa regarded as so bad? How do we know it won't just stay there? What happens with such a low post op psa? Absence any positive scans, isn't it just a number? On Apr 21, 3:51?pm, "Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote: > "colophony" <colophony2...@yahoo.it> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I'm sorry to see your streak has ended, my friend. > Why is a .689 psa regarded as so bad? How do we know it won't just > stay there? What happens with such a low post op psa? Absence any > positive scans, isn't it just a number? On the face of it, 0.689 is not bad. It's less that 7/10ths of a nanogram (millionth of a gram). However, Cologphony had surgery in 2006. His PSA immediately began to rise and did so for four successive tests. That's biological failure. By the time it reached 0.369, his doc put him on ADT. He went off of ADT February 2007. His PSA has been rising ever since. He has surpassed the mark that would cause my doc to advise that he go back on ADT. Some docs (maybe his) will wait until it surpasses 1.000 or even 2.000. Regardless, he has to make some decisions and he knows that if he decides to continue to wait, he is only putting off the inevitable. So, it's not a great time either way. SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years Casodex added daily 07/06 PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 2/12/08 Non Illegitimi Carborundum Steve, you skipped the period oct 2007 feb 2008 when I was on casodex 150mg daily and PSA dropped at 0,090. Who decided to stop ADT was the "famous" oncologist you reccomend everytime somebody mention to you the urologist's advise( bettter known as a "plumber") and you address him to the oncologist or better the oncologist specialized in K prostate. Nevertheless thanks to all for the support Colophony > On Apr 21, 3:51?pm, "Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote: >> "colophony" <colophony2...@yahoo.it> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > to continue to wait, he is only putting off the inevitable. So, it's not > a great time either way. > Steve, > you skipped the period oct 2007 feb 2008 when I was on casodex 150mg daily > and PSA dropped at 0,090. You are correct, sir. I remembered the 0.090, but not the Lupron. And I couldn't figure it out. That explains it. I am sure that it was explained to you that you only had a 20% shot at a lower PSA with casodex withdrawal. Half-life of casodex is 6-8 weeks, that is why the wait to get another PSA. Your MO has plenty of silver bullets at hand to arrest the rising PSA at your point. Take Care. Gourd Dancer > got results of apr 14. > 2 months without casodex and without "nothing" my PSA jumped again to > 0,689. > Awaiting oncologist's advise. > Colophony |
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