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Califchief - 09 Apr 2008 22:00 GMT
Dave Perry typed:

> He's applied for but not yet received Medicaid.  On the other
> hand, he's applied for and is receiving Social Security Disability
> and apparently will continue to do so until he is fixed up which
> may never happen.  I'd rather my tax dollars pay for his insurance
> than support him for the next fifty years.

Did your niece's boyfriend ever work?

Did he ever kick in (via withholding taxes) to the OASDI fund
and (via withholding taxes) to FICA?

Maybe he's receiving his own tax dollars back vs. your tax dollars.

On the other hand, perhaps your tax dollars are paying my pension
for the 26 years I served in the Naval Reserve.  <VBG>

Joe N.

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djperry42@sbcglobal.net - 09 Apr 2008 23:10 GMT
>  Dave Perry typed:
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Yeah, he worked for about 4 years and paid into all the systems.
He'll get all "his" money back well before his next birthday.
Dave Perry
I.P. Freely - 09 Apr 2008 23:25 GMT
> Yeah, he worked for about 4 years and paid into all the systems.
> He'll get all "his" money back well before his next birthday.

And I'll bet he'd rather not get his money back, considering the
circumstances.

I.P.
Califchief - 10 Apr 2008 22:00 GMT
I.P. typed and replied:

> Yet the government reneged on its promise of free lifetime
> medical care somewhere between my enlistment and my retirement.

Tell me about it....tell me about it.  <VBG>

> It took the Bush administration to reverse that to any extent;
> now at least military retirees' health insurance is heavily
> subsidized (although its cost to us is still climbing)

Bush didn't exactly reverse the situation, but gave retirees
Tricare For Life. but it came with the provision that we had
to continue paying the monthly medicare premium.  And that
montly premium has more than doubled in less that 10 years.

And last Fall the co-pay for some drugs more than doubled.

> and the VA takes care of specified medical problems associated
> with our military service.

And Uncle Sam, with retirees deceased from military-associated
medical problems, provides nicely for the widows.  I was dating
such a widow who would have thrown a $1,500 montly payment out
the window if she remarried.  Since those days, laws have changed
and a widow(er) over the age of 59 does retain some benefits if
she/he remarries.

> HOWEVER, many of us still choose -- at higher cost -- the generic
> military retiree health care program because the more heavily
> subsidized (and socialized) program carries too much baggage,
> such as very limited provider selection.

You lost me with that last statement.  What 2 programs are you
referring to?  I'm covered by Tricare For Life which requires
me to continue paying Medicare Part B the $98 montly premium.
I assume (a bad choice of words) that's the "generic military
retiree health care program" you mentioned.  What did you mean
with "the more heavily subsidized (and socialized) program?"

Is there one program for pre-medicare vets (me) and a different
one for post-medicare vets?  What year did DOD switch retirees
from the promised free lifetime medical care to medicare?

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