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Tom Cular - 19 Feb 2008 11:19 GMT
I'm still around, just lurking. Latest PSA yesterday was 0.2, a bit higher
than the previous 0.14, but I don't think the difference is significant
enough to fret over at this time. It's been about 3 1/2 years since the
brachytherapy and 2 years following a bypass. My only complaint falls in the
ED department, my GP commented (and rightly so) that when arteries become
clogged, it's not only the plumbing in your chest that's affected.

Tom
I.P. Freely - 19 Feb 2008 16:25 GMT
>  my GP commented (and rightly so) that when arteries become
> clogged, it's not only the plumbing in your chest that's affected.

My VA GP -- NOT my uros -- not only refused to agree with that, but
refused to even look it up, even after I explained that the primary
physical cause of ED at our age is vascular damage. The idiot still
works there despite the complaint I filed. We gotta watch these guys.

I.P.
Tom Cular - 20 Feb 2008 10:06 GMT
>>  my GP commented (and rightly so) that when arteries become clogged, it's
>> not only the plumbing in your chest that's affected.
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>
> I.P.

Absolutely, I believe it was Strum who said "MD" does not stand for Medical
Deity. I'm fortunate that my current Drs. listen to questions and give
answers and explanations. I had a cardiologist that was always too busy to
talk, I did us both a favor and lessened his work load.

Tom
Alan Meyer - 19 Feb 2008 19:40 GMT
> I'm still around, just lurking. Latest PSA yesterday was 0.2, a bit higher
> than the previous 0.14, but I don't think the difference is significant
> enough to fret over at this time.

Tom,

I agree that fretting is not warranted.  PSA does vary from day
to day.  I was quoted a number of up to 30% variation as normal.
You're still in that range.

Also, although most PSA bounces occur in the first 36 months
after brachytherapy, there are recorded cases of it occurring
4-5 years afterwards.  So that's a possibility too.

Good luck.

   Alan
brainyblogger@gmail.com - 19 Feb 2008 21:49 GMT
Tom,

You should consider having salvage radiotherapy.  If you are going to
do that, better sooner than later.  Every day counts.

I posted on my blog a news article from ASCO about the benefits of RT
after surgery, even for *high-risk* patients.  I suggest you read it.
(It's called, "ASCO", etc).

Good Luck,

LFC
Alan Meyer - 20 Feb 2008 00:41 GMT
On Feb 19, 4:49 pm, "brainyblog...@gmail.com"
<brainyblog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tom,
>
> You should consider having salvage radiotherapy.  If you are going to
> do that, better sooner than later.  Every day counts.
...

Not in this case.  Tom had brachytherapy, not surgery.
He still has a prostate, and small amounts of PSA are
normal for post-radiation patients.

I believe the American Society of Radiation Oncologists
(ASRO) uses 0.4 as the criterion of success for radiation
and some docs use even higher numbers, like 1.0.

If us radio-actives do fail, further radiation is usually not
an option because the damage would be too great.
Traditionally, ADT is all that's left, but some docs are
using HIFU and maybe cryotherapy for local failure
after radiation.

   Alan
safire - 07 Mar 2008 11:26 GMT
> On Feb 19, 4:49 pm, "brainyblog...@gmail.com"
> <brainyblog...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> He still has a prostate, and small amounts of PSA are
> normal for post-radiation patients.

Again, Leah's advice is dangerous.
 
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