(snip)

For what purpose?

Carl has a Gleason 7 to 8 cancer.

I believe that there is no reason to expect that some pills will cure
his case.

Sorry. There are no miracle cures.

I wish there were.

Regards,

Steve J

"What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts?
Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget 'what the stars
foretell,' avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never mind
the unguessable 'verdict of history' -- what are the facts, and to how
many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are
your single clue. Get the facts!"
--Lazarus Long

Oh, yeah? How about the failure of lycopene to do squat for us in
trials? How about the less distinct but still disappointing failure of
soy in particular and isoflavones in general to live up to expectations?
How about the ever-increasing failures of ever-increasing numbers of
man-isolated chemicals to provide the same benefits as Mother Nature's
home cooking? The antioxidant trainwrecks comes to mind, as does the
recent revelation that soy probably *enhances* existing prostate cancer,
if I recall correctly.

. The daily dosage (2 capsules) of Prostate

Theralogix's spiel opens with "Our safe, scientifically formulated
nutritional supplement designed to support healthy prostate tissue."
You're overlooking one thing: if you have any prostate tissue, it ain't
healthy.

Last but not least, I don't base decisions to BUY anything significant
based on what I read on a website that SELLS it. And although a bottle
of this innocuous  mix isn't in itself "significant", the fact that
unless you cancel your permanent subscription, this stuff's the
Energizer Bunny -- it just keeps on coming -- at $75 every month until
you remove its batteries altogether.

You'll notice my knee-jerk "opinion" isn't too scientifically worded,
what with "squat", "ain't", etc. That's because it ain't scientific;
it's just off-the-cuff and worth what it cost you and probably less than
what I put into it. But my gut tells me you would be far better off
consuming whichever of those micronutrients may be of some use (I'll
leave that selection up to the small handful of folks here who follow
the supplement research far more closely than I do) as *food*, where
possible, rather than from little pellets out of a factory. The
exceptions such as D3 probably warrant pills, but D3/calcium pills cost
pennies, not tens of dollars, and almost everyone needs more D3/calcium.

Oops; my two cents just expired.

I.P.

I agree with Steve and I.P.

I expect that the stuff won't hurt you, but the unnamed
"advisory board" of unnamed "university physicians and
scientists" are pretty good clues that the company is
selling pills for $75 that retail for $15 elsewhere.

As for the supplements themselves, I think it is not
unreasonable to use supplements if they're cheap and
safe.  The evidence for them is slender, to the say the
least, but I'd be inclined to try pomegranate extract and
maybe vitamin C.

Your PSA is no longer responding as strongly to ADT.
Are you seeing a medical oncologist who specializes
in prostate cancer?  If not, I think you should.  A friend of
mine in your situation is seeing Dr. Charles "Snuffy"
Myers in Virginia who has tried a bunch of other drugs
after my friend became hormone refractory.  They included
estradiol patches, I think ketoconazole (I'm not sure about
that), pomegranate extract, and now revlimid, which seems
to be bringing his PSA back down again.

My friend's first doctor gave him Lupron and, when it
stopped working, kissed him goodbye.  But sometimes
an aggressive doctor can keep a patient alive significantly
longer.

Best of luck to you.

   Alan

============>  I once investigated this and it seems like an excellent
product made by an excellent company.  And you don't have to take 10
vitamins.  And have a look at those doc's credentials -- a lot of
potential nobel prize winners.

One thing: in today's NYT there was an article in the Personal Health
section about the benefits of Vitamin D.  I would consider taking
megadoses, based on what I have heard.  At least I am going to give
that to my husband.  *Then, he will be checked every week by a
doctor.  You can ask me for his program, per Dr. Myers.  Or some
people here may know more about this.

I tried to post above article, but I'm not sure it went thru.

Good luck.

Leah

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