Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / January 2008
Updated Blog Please Help
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Califchief - 05 Jan 2008 01:00 GMT JILL wrote again:
> I certainly did not go to alt.impeach.bush, alt.politics.bush, > alt.true-crime, alt.obituaries, alt.war,vietnam, alt.fan.rush- > limbaugh, soc.women, etc. etc. etc. etc. for a total of 185 > messages in 48 groups seeking help?
> That is a complete lie.
Then why does google show you posting 31 times in November, 130 times in December, and 32 times so far in January?
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And why did you write the following?
Ä Area: alt.support.cancer.prostate ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Msg#: 27851 Date: 01-02-08 20:58 From: Jbello.com@gmail.com To: All Subj: Re: Updated Blog Please Help ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
> The only one listed seeking help was the alt.support.alzheimers. > The rest was blogging. > > J. Bello You're not blogging when you post in newsgroups.
> So you went to alt.impeach.bush, rec.pets.cats.community, > alt.politics.bush, alt.support.alzheimers, alt.true-crime, > alt.obituaries (hope to see yours soon), alt.war,vietnam, > alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, soc.women, etc. etc. etc. etc. for > a total of 185 messages in 48 groups seeking help? Nope, just used google to view your posting history. You can't escape that.
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jbello - 05 Jan 2008 18:28 GMT > JILL wrote again: > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 I am posting to blog groups for my web page, not blog page. When I do post for my blog page, I am asking for information about my father. If I posted to something like politics or war, vietnam, etc., it was a mistake. You don't have to believe me, but I have decided to change the ads on my blog to fit the content better. I was experimenting and like you saw for yourself I just started learning about blogging in November.
J. Bello
I.P. Freely - 05 Jan 2008 23:29 GMT > I am posting to blog groups for my web page, not blog page. When I do > post for my blog page, I am asking for information about my father. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > like you saw for yourself I just started learning about blogging in > November. Jill, blogging and newsgroup posting are virtually unrelated. The former is like posting a bulletin board on the front door of your home; the people who come to it do so on their own volition, expressly to read and perhaps post on it relative to your topic. They know and accept that it is a pit of ads to be negotiated and that it may be laden with malware.
Newsgroups in general are supposed to be free of commercial pitches, are related to OUR interests rather than just the poster's, and are inherently (almost) malware-free as long as a) people do not click on unknown links and b) automated signatures such as yours do not provide malware pathways. Newsgroup regulars are in the group to learn and/or help others learn, not to make money off ad revenues.
This group in particular possesses several characteristics most newsgroups don't, including: 1. We stay on topic extremely well, and identify off-topic tangents as such fairly consistently so purists can avoid the irrelevant distraction. Our creed could be described as, "What part of support.cancer.prostate do you not understand"? 2. Our topic is at the very least extremely important, often about life or death. This ain't alt.ford.vs.chevy. 3. We have some honest-to-God experts in cancer and medical research here who see right through bogus cancer cures, aka snake oil. Because we have had several forum "members" die from over-reliance on snake oil, we resent the hell out of snake oil salesmen and have bo reservations about eating them for lunch. Pass the ketchup! 4. We are invaded by snake oil salesmen almost daily, which keeps our carving knives very sharp. 5. While we don't mind companies pitching valid prostate-cancer-related products here, their posts had better be identified as sales pitches or it's "Pass the ketchup". Acti-Cuff came in here a year or two ago and openly pitched a great product for managing mild incontinence; they were and are welcome, IMO. But the vast majority of pitches for products, blogs, pyramid schemes (aka multi-level-marketing programs), or purely money-making websites are misrepresented as topical posts, and they PISS US OFF. 6. Last but maybe most important and quite unique in USENET (newsgroups), very little flaming is presented here and it is not tolerated as readily as it is in 99% of newsgroups. Most of us save our flaming for people who act, frankly, like you. Discuss prostate cancer without the commercial spin and you're likely to be welcome here; many women who love PC patients are full-fledged "members" here.
I.P.
jbello - 06 Jan 2008 03:53 GMT > > I am posting to blog groups for my web page, not blog page. When I do > > post for my blog page, I am asking for information about my father. [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > I.P. Thank you for the information. You may think I am just saying this, but I am a bit nieve to all of this. How do I know what is a newsgroup and what is a blog? If I promise not to use any advertising here, could I still ask questions about affects after chemo for my father?
Thanks.
J. Bello
I.P. Freely - 06 Jan 2008 05:53 GMT > Thank you for the information. You may think I am just saying this, > but I am a bit nieve to all of this. How do I know what is a newsgroup > and what is a blog? If I promise not to use any advertising here, > could I still ask questions about affects after chemo for my father? It wouldn't bother me at all.
But realize that colon cancer chemo and what many less-informed PC patients refer generically to as "chemo" are unrelated. What many people call prostate cancer "chemo" is castration, either surgical or chemical; it's called hormone therapy (HT) or androgen deprivation therapy (ADT), and eliminates testosterone from the body because testosterone feeds PC. Colon cancer chemo has nothing to do with testosterone or castration. In fact, there are at least two very different forms of colon cancer with very different forms of chemical treatment (beyond its removal).
Now, REAL PC chemotherapy, without the quotes, also has nothing to do with testosterone; it attacks advanced prostate cancer directly as opposed to simply trying to starve it. Unfortunately, it's pretty ineffectual so far, and is usually administered after ADT failed because that particular case of cancer doesn't need testosterone, so we don't discuss it much.
For many discussions of blogs vs newsgroups, Google blogs vs newsgroups. A blog contains only what its owner allows; s/he can erase any comments s/he wishes from it. A newsgroup forum is wide open to anyone who wants to comment, and the only thing anyone can control is whether s/he reads a given post or poster. Blogs are created generally for income or ego, whereas newsgroup forums exist simply for the exchange of comments on a stated topic. Someone owns a blog can shut them down; newsgroup forums may be started by anyone, but then exist by themselves.
I.P.
jbello - 07 Jan 2008 01:32 GMT > > Thank you for the information. You may think I am just saying this, > > but I am a bit nieve to all of this. How do I know what is a newsgroup [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > I.P. Thanks.
J. Bello
Steve Kramer - 06 Jan 2008 09:33 GMT << If I promise not to use any advertising here, << could I still ask questions about affects after chemo for my father?
My very first response to you was (paraphrased) if you ask appropriate questions here, you will get answers here.
If you come here trying to lure us to your website, blot, whatever, you'll pretty much get what you got.
So, ask away.
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jbello - 07 Jan 2008 01:32 GMT > << If I promise not to use any advertising here, > << could I still ask questions about affects after chemo for my father? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04 10/11/07 > Non Illegitimi Carborundum Thanks.
J. Bello
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