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Question re: PSA numbers

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Sy - 02 Jan 2008 02:17 GMT
I was diagnosed with Pca in August,2007.

My numbers are:

Age-60
PSA 3.17 (Had doubled in 18 months)
Stage T1c
Gleason 6 (3+3)
Bone Scan & CAT Scan-Negative
Active Surveillance

I will be getting another PSA next week.  Can the PSA go down?  If so,
why?

Thanks,

Sy
ron - 02 Jan 2008 02:37 GMT
> I was diagnosed with Pca in August,2007.
>
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> Sy

Sy...With PCa anything is possible.  Perhaps you had an infection
(infection "is" cell death, when the cell wall dissolves, the cell
contents - including PSA - leak more easily into the bloodstream) last
time which has since cleared up.  Maybe you had done something that
"massaged" the prostate (which could cause it to leak additional PSA
into the bloodstream) prior to your last test.  A lab error is also a
possibility.  Good luck with the next PSA!..Best wishes and good
health, ron
safire - 02 Jan 2008 07:26 GMT
>> I was diagnosed with Pca in August,2007.
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> possibility.  Good luck with the next PSA!..Best wishes and good
> health, ron

To underscore: I had a PSA reading of 11.7 at one hospital's lab over a
year ago, and a reading of 9.7 less than two weeks later. The number by
itself is not that significant.
Leonard Evens - 02 Jan 2008 03:46 GMT
> I was diagnosed with Pca in August,2007.
>
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> I will be getting another PSA next week.  Can the PSA go down?  If so,
> why?

PSA can vary for quite a few reasons, some of which ron described.  So
it could go down.  For exasmple, in my case, my PSA went from 3.3 to 4.5
over a period of about a year, and then on retesting it dropped to 3.8.
 But I had already had a biopsy and been diagnosed with prostate
cancer, so thee exact value of the PSA was moot.

Your situation seems similar to mine in that you already know that you
have prostate cancer.  If your PSA drops a bit on your next test, that
won't change the situation much.  It is true that the PSA value is one
factor in deciding what to do next, but it is highly unlikely to drop
enough to change the situation.  The Gleason score and other information
obtained from the biopsy already provides enough information.

> Thanks,
>
> Sy
RR - 02 Jan 2008 06:24 GMT
Your situation is very similar to mine back in 2005,
I was 65 by then.
Early detection gives you all the advantage you need to win that
battle
Don't wait for too long
Best of luck and speedy recovery
RR

>> I was diagnosed with Pca in August,2007.
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>> Sy
Steve Kramer - 02 Jan 2008 11:37 GMT
> I was diagnosed with Pca in August,2007.
>
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> I will be getting another PSA next week.  Can the PSA go down?  If so,
> why?

If you have a PSAD of 18 months, you can expect a PSA next week of somewhere
around 4.00.  You can guess at a PSAD with only two measurements.  You
cannot really know what your PSAD is until you have had three or more.

Therefore, you can have a PSA next week of 5.00 and determine that your PSAD
is really only a year.  Or, you might have a slight rise and find that your
PSAD is really two years.  To further complicated things, your PSAD can
change.

However, to answer your question more directly, yes, it can go down.  I
don't know why it does.  You would think that with a group of untreated
cancer cells that are reproducing and causing havoc, each all the while
producing a fairly constant amount of PSA, that the PSA could never
decrease.  But, in fact, sometimes it does.  And, I suspect if anyone knew
why, they'd be much closer to a cure than they are.
jloomis - 02 Jan 2008 14:27 GMT
Could be the "blood sample" or the sensitivity of the test, or the lab that
does the test also.
A Dr. told me that PSA test results can vary depending on the lab..........
Anyway,  getting a PSA test, and with your prior lab work done, may give you
more information that will help you make a decision toward dealing with
prostate cancer.
   This was a difficutl time for me as well, and I had many thoughts, and
treatment options to dwell about.  I do wish you the best direction.
jloomis

>> I was diagnosed with Pca in August,2007.
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> decrease.  But, in fact, sometimes it does.  And, I suspect if anyone knew
> why, they'd be much closer to a cure than they are.
 
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