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MikeHi - 27 Nov 2007 08:41 GMT

I found 'Tumbleweed's' post on the Alzheimer support NG. Hope it may
give others here, as we plough with hope through countless studies, a
day's smiling as it gave me.

Original Post: TAMPA (2007-11-14) Who knew that drinking five cups of
coffee a day could improve your memory? Researchers at the Byrd
Alzheimer's Institute say their study on genetically-altered mice
shows daily intake of caffeine can slow - and even reverse - the
effects of the disease.

Tumbleweed's Post: No one knows. It's a misleading headline
unless you are a genetically engineered mouse.

Tumbleweed's reply to my congrats was, 'eek eek I'm fine'

EEk eek eek - we're all gonna be fine!

MikeHI

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Steve Kramer - 27 Nov 2007 11:42 GMT

> Original Post: TAMPA (2007-11-14) Who knew that drinking five cups of
> coffee a day could improve your memory? Researchers at the Byrd
> Alzheimer's Institute say their study on genetically-altered mice
> shows daily intake of caffeine can slow - and even reverse - the
> effects of the disease.

My wife attended a three week (40-hour-per-week) class on the brain; all
worldwide-recognized researchers and physicians. One started his speel with
a 15 minute litany about brain food. He went through all the common
notions, the only one of which I can remember being B-12 (haven't had my
coffee yet). Each time saying, "No. ----------------" and explaining what
it does and doesn't do. Finally he says, "So what IS the best brain food?"
as he lifted his can of Diet Pepsi and announced, "Caffeine!"

Of course he then went on to talke about the SEs fo cafeeine and how they
are looking to find the benefactory elements of the drug and separate them
from the other SEs, but so far, I've heard of no progress.

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MikeHi - 27 Nov 2007 23:09 GMT

>> Original Post: TAMPA (2007-11-14) Who knew that drinking five cups of
>> coffee a day could improve your memory? Researchers at the Byrd
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>are looking to find the benefactory elements of the drug and separate them
>from the other SEs, but so far, I've heard of no progress.

Hi Steve. Your post got me going. I Googled. And I found the
engineered mouse has a rival. The hairy mouse. See
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20193015/ Hairy mice who took caffeine
became more protected against skin cancer Vive les mice batting for
us!

But you had a serious point -and these sites certainly make it too.
Brain activity seems to be a main beneficiary. Parkinsons often
mentioned too.

http://men.webmd.com/features/coffee-new-health-food?page=2

http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/128/117161.htm?pagenumber=2
A snippet
Moderaste coffee consumption = 3 or 4 cops a day= 400 milligrams. For
this NG, it also states:' it doesn't appear to significantly increase
heart disease risk or cancer.
But, they warn, those with high blood pressure, as well as children,
teens, and the elderly, may be more vulnerable to caffeine's adverse
effects.

And three cups a day only 'moderate' is good news for me. I've been
having one day, often decaff. Another site mentions, maybe relevant
here, that caffeine combined with e.g. Ibuprofen increases the
painkilling benefits.

You've turned the humour into a new thread for me Steve. Seen quite a
few posts (I think) where the advice not to drink coffee has been a
painful quality of life effect. And since my memory is becoming very
fallible I think I'll have a go! The above sites I point out are
reporting findings, not original studies. Must be lots more.

MikeHi

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Beverley - 28 Nov 2007 14:41 GMT

<SNIP>

> Moderaste coffee consumption = 3 or 4 cops a day= 400 milligrams. For
> this NG, it also states:' it doesn't appear to significantly increase
> heart disease risk or cancer.

<SNIP>
The coffee consumption isn't very difficult, but doing 3-4 cops a day might
pose a problem!
Bev

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Alan Meyer - 28 Nov 2007 22:07 GMT

>> Original Post: TAMPA (2007-11-14) Who knew that drinking five cups of
>> coffee a day could improve your memory? Researchers at the Byrd
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> separate them from the other SEs, but so far, I've heard of no
> progress.

About 10 or 12 years ago I switched from coffee to tea because
of the supposed health benefits of tea, for example in preventing
cancer.

Then I got cancer.

Now I'm switching back to coffee. I sure hope this doesn't mean
I'm going to get Alzheimer's.

Some other diet and supplement advice that has been offered to
prevent Alzheimer's includes:

A glass of wine each day.
A low dose of ibuprofen each day.
Curcumin (also known as turmeric or curry powder)
EGCG (a component of green tea)
Omega 3 fatty acids, from fish oil I think, but I don't remember
(it's probably too late for me anyway)

I take all of those. Dying of cancer is pretty scary. But dying of
Alzheimer's is really scary. With cancer you can at least remember
to take your pills when things get bad, and you can recognize your
wife and children when they visit you and try to take care of you.

Alan

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Steve Kramer - 28 Nov 2007 23:11 GMT

> I take all of those. Dying of cancer is pretty scary. But dying of
> Alzheimer's is really scary. With cancer you can at least remember
> to take your pills when things get bad, and you can recognize your
> wife and children when they visit you and try to take care of you.

Yeah, sudden death is still tops on my list.

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Beverley - 29 Nov 2007 04:42 GMT

I keep telling myself that George got lucky!
Bev

> > I take all of those. Dying of cancer is pretty scary. But dying of
> > Alzheimer's is really scary. With cancer you can at least remember
> > to take your pills when things get bad, and you can recognize your
> > wife and children when they visit you and try to take care of you.
>
> Yeah, sudden death is still tops on my list.

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Steve Kramer - 29 Nov 2007 23:17 GMT

>I keep telling myself that George got lucky!
> Bev

Yeah, twice.

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Alex - 04 Dec 2007 23:51 GMT

> Yeah, sudden death is still tops on my list.

Actually, sudden death as experienced by Nelson Rockefeller (by heart attack
at age 70 in the arms of his very attractive 28-year-old mistress) is at the
VERY top of my list.

Alex

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