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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / November 2007LUPRON & Latest John Hopkins Study:
in nutshell the study just released says that PC patient on Lupron still develops metastatic cancer and because of testosterone depletion rate for hart attack is 3 times greater!! no way to win with trying to suppress/cure PC. I am now a believer that 'healing' is the only way to go! lz > in nutshell the study just released says that PC patient on Lupron still > develops metastatic cancer and because of testosterone depletion rate for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > lz I hope so. If I die of a heart attack, my wife's bennies are tremendous!  SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years Casodex added daily 07/06 PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04 10/11/07 Non Illegitimi Carborundum Steve, I fail to understand the meaning of ..quote my wife's bennies are tremendous unquote. Can you please reppeat the meaning in other words? Thanks Colophony >> in nutshell the study just released says that PC patient on Lupron still >> develops metastatic cancer and because of testosterone depletion rate for [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I hope so. If I die of a heart attack, my wife's bennies are tremendous! Hi Colophony......it threw me for a minute or so too. I believe he means that his wife's "benefits" are tremendous, should he croak of a heart attack. At first I thought he was digging into her valium, LOL!! He will correct me, I am sure. Cheers.....Heather > Steve, > I fail to understand the meaning of ..quote my wife's bennies are [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> I hope so. If I die of a heart attack, my wife's bennies are >> tremendous! > I fail to understand the meaning of ..quote my wife's bennies are > tremendous unquote. Can you please reppeat the meaning in other words? > Thanks Colophony My retirement (decidedly not my Social Security) is set up such that if I die before retirement AND before my wife dies, she gets a portion of my salary for the rest of her life. However, there are some circumstances whereby she gets my whole salary. Death by heart attack is included as one of those and death by cancer is not. In reality, she would have one hell of a decision to make because my company and I also pay into an annuity that will be quite large by the time I retire. If she invoked the survivor's benefits clause, the annuity disappears for all intents and purposes. She'll probably do better with the annuity route. It was intented to be an off-handed, comical comment on Sven's silliness. > in nutshell the study just released says that PC patient on Lupron > still develops metastatic cancer and because of testosterone > depletion rate for hart attack is 3 times greater!! What study is that? Please provide a reference to the source so others can read it. As is well-recognized, no LHRH agonist such as Lupron is curative. They can and usually do extend survival. Regards, Steve J > in nutshell the study just released says that PC patient on Lupron > still develops metastatic cancer and because of testosterone depletion [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > lz Unfortunately, if by "healing", you mean using alternative medicine treatments, or no treatments at all, that doesn't work either. Someday scientists will unravel the biology of aging and learn ways to stop it (which may be no fun for people living under the rule of men like Saddam Hussein.) Until then, we are all doomed to die of something. For myself, I think I'd prefer a heart attack to cancer, though heart disease can sometimes be slow and difficult too. Alan > in nutshell the study just released says that PC patient on Lupron still > develops metastatic cancer and because of testosterone depletion rate > for hart attack is 3 times greater!! > > no way to win with trying to suppress/cure PC. > I am now a believer that 'healing' is the only way to go! *GREAT*!!! I've seen medical newsletter reports of the study, and this sounds like an easy way out of the dilemma; it's amazing that no one else has thought of this revolutionary solution to cancer. Now tell us, how do we do we just ... you know ... *HEAL* ourselves? Let us guess ... you're a Presidential candidate? A vitamin huckster? I.P. Yo Freely; I was just taken off from a study 'epothalone' chemo - side effects: feet and fingers numness! So my onko tells me that the 'standrd chemo' if lucky might regress the PC as much as 1 year! So, you know I am kinda thinking 'out of the box' or I could just get a gallon of Southern Comfort and sit down front of the house and watch the grass grow! I will keep you posted of my progress and in mean time you can K.M.A.! PS. however, the future is bright: http://www.physorg.com/news115375060.html lz >> in nutshell the study just released says that PC patient on Lupron >> still develops metastatic cancer and because of testosterone [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > I.P. |
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