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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / November 2007To Sy: Redux
Newsgroups: alt.alcohol From: Sy <stuttga...@lycos.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:37:47 -0400 Local: Mon, Oct 22 2007 6:37 am Subject: A.A. Groups in Curacao Can anyone recommend any A.A. Meetings in Curacao? Please reply directly to: stuttga...@lycos.com Thanks Sy Sy, although you may have already returned, try any of the following meetings at this link: http://www.aacaribbean.org/ (click lefthand side on Curacao. We really do wish the best for you Sy. Perhaps it is time to listen to physicians rather than argue. GD > We really do wish the best for you Sy. Perhaps it is time to listen > to physicians rather than argue. > > GD Another example of arrogant use of the pluralis majestatis. Apparently Gourd is an alcoholist and/or a stalker. Evidently he doesn't respect Sy's privacy. >> We really do wish the best for you Sy. Perhaps it is time to listen >> to physicians rather than argue. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Gourd is an alcoholist and/or a stalker. Evidently he doesn't respect >Sy's privacy. Neither arrogant nor presumptuous. Those who bothered to reply to Sy all wished him the best as far as I can remember. >> We really do wish the best for you Sy. Perhaps it is time to listen to >> physicians rather than argue. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Gourd is an alcoholist and/or a stalker. Evidently he doesn't respect Sy's > privacy. More likely a man of action. Some sit and surmise that something is wrong with Sy's circuitry and wonder what it is. Some may even apply some possibilities, such as I did. It looks like Gourd actually went out to see if Sy has invaded other newsgroups, as a troll might, and found that he has. When here, he is a cancer victim. When in an AA group, he's an alcoholic. And, I forget which group he was in last week. Safire, you have become an apologist for someone who is obviously been found out. Perhaps you should take a step back and consider what we (pluralis majestatis intended) have found and decided for yourself whether you appreciate his activities in YOUR prostate cancer group. Why take on the people who were right all along? Sy's privacy ended when he came on this forum and verbally attacked just about everyone that tried to offer assistance. Had he informed us of his pre-existing condition, I can almost guarantee that no one would have had any negative comments towards him, only sympathy. But because of the viciousness of his attacks, one could easily see that he had other problems greater than prostate cancer. He even mentioned in one of his posts that he was about to expose that condition but held back at the last moment. Yes, we are all grown men and have seen a lot in our life time and would except Sy back as long as he could conduct himself civilly. Having said that, I'm not sure he could really understand what is being said without first getting some serious counseling. His filters have been in place for so long that he probably couldn't accept dialog at its face value. Ron S. Safire, I can assure you that I have not set myself up as an official or monarch of this newsgroup. There is simply no "Royal We." I am also neither an alcoholist, stalker, intolerant jerk, busybody, Einstein, nor other descriptor used to lash out toward me for support that I have offered; not withstanding, additional support that others have offered all the while being subject to name-calling rants. I find interesting that our friend has written that he is not a name caller by nature. There is no privacy on a newsgroup. Anyone can search at any time for comments made by anyone at anytime. I make no judgements. A personal decision is simply, a personal decision. I would like to, but I won't, ask him to continue with the Twelve Steps of Recovery in his daily life and to share his threads of this newsgroup with his Sponsor. GD >> We really do wish the best for you Sy. Perhaps it is time to listen to >> physicians rather than argue. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Gourd is an alcoholist and/or a stalker. Evidently he doesn't respect Sy's > privacy. >> We really do wish the best for you Sy. Perhaps it is time to listen >> to physicians rather than argue. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>> Apparently Gourd is an alcoholist and/or a stalker. Evidently he >>> doesn't respect Sy's privacy.<<<< I think you belong in the same subgroup as Sy does. Rude, arrogant and insulting!! At no time has anyone stalked Sy. I found that information well over a week ago and I believe I alluded to it in a post, but you are not worth my time looking it up. News groups are not private confessionals. Sy is a recovering alcoholic and while I don't personally know much about it or AA, I do believe that one of the 12 steps is to apologize to those you have hurt or insulted. Obviously he has not reached that step. Or chooses to ignore it. As for you, if you can't say something nice, then stfu. I don't recall you ever offering PCa advice......only negative personal comments. People like you obviously lead sad, lonely lives. Pity!! HF >Sy s a recovering alcoholic and while I don't personally know much about it or AA, etc. Neither do I, but we're all familiar with the lingo. So I would label the protracted engagement here with Sy a textbook example of: *Codependency in Motion." With all due respect, Sy had more than his share of enablers. Leah > >Sy is a recovering alcoholic and while I don't personally know much > >about it or AA, etc. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > With all due respect, Sy had more than his share of enablers. Leah.....obviously you are more familiar with the lingo than I am. All I saw was one rude, arrogant person attacking those who tried to help him. I don't give a damn what his excuse was.....had he chosen to enlighten us. But the one thing I do know is a person attending AA is supposed to apologize to those he has hurt or insulted, etc. I really don't think he had any intention of doing so. Enough time has been wasted on this person. I for one, will not be discussing his attitude or his failings again. Heather "Pluralis Majestatis" Sounds like we are to be impressed once again. Rhonda Joy. How did this forum come to be so blessed as to have two such eloquent writers cross our paths, you and Sy? Would you please enlighten us? Ron S [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]] In article I have several email addresses but use only this one for any posting anywhere. My how clever you are.I once had a substance abuse problem. That was a long time ago. I am not in the least ashamed or reluctant to say so and that's why I use the same email address. Overcoming adversity builds a person's character. How 'bout you? No character flaws I suppose. You still drinking? Maybe you eat way too much or pick up little boys in AOL chat rooms or somesuch? Why you would broach the topic at all is a reflection of what type of person you must be. Sy <drbZi.2607$sm1.839@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>, MAS <!!!msheets!!!@!!!sbcglobal!!!.net> wrote: > Newsgroups: alt.alcohol > From: Sy <stuttga...@lycos.com> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > ` > end >>> My how clever you are.I once had a substance abuse problem. That >>> was a long time ago. Long time ago?? Then why did you need to know where the AA program was in Curacao when you went there in the past 4 weeks?? Face it.....you are an alcoholic and always will be. As to whether you are a *recovering alcoholic* remains to be seen. Your manner of speaking says otherwise. > How 'bout you? No character flaws I suppose. Stupid, ignorant, sarcastic remarks deleted. Go back to AA and reread Steps 8 and 9......you definitely failed those. > Why you would broach the topic at all is a reflection of what type of > person you must be. No....it was an attempt to find a reason why you were so rude and arrogant to everyone. You were not looking for help or advice.....you just wanted a new news group to be rude to. Your kind is not needed or wanted here and from now on I am plonking you, you ignorant clod!! And I am quite sure you will find that NO ONE will be bothered with you from here on in. HF Btw, for those who didn't see the original nastygram by Sy, it was directed to our Gourd Dancer, not me. I just reread it and thought I should clear that up. On one news server, I don't get his posts.....hmm, interesting. >>>> My how clever you are.I once had a substance abuse problem. That >>>> was a long time ago. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > HF >>>> My how clever you are.I once had a substance abuse problem. That >>>> was a long time ago. > > Long time ago?? Then why did you need to know where the AA program was > in Curacao when you went there in the past 4 weeks?? Face it.....you > are an alcoholic and always will be. A rather bold long distance diagnosis from madame bigot supreme. Applying her line of reasoning to herself, she would be the first female in the world that has a prostate; why else would she be hanging around in this group? As in the past, she doesn't need evidence to make her claims. you ignorant clod!! An accurate description of herself. And I am quite sure you will find that NO ONE > will be bothered with you from here on in. Sy's contributions show more intelligence than Heather's emotional garbage. > HF >> Long time ago?? Then why did you need to know where the AA program >> was in Curacao when you went there in the past 4 weeks?? Face >> it.....you are an alcoholic and always will be. > > A rather bold long distance diagnosis from madame bigot supreme. ROFL!! If this is supposed to bother me, you failed. Yes, I reckon I am a superior female (G), but never a bigot. If I was, I wouldn't be answering your bollocks!! Are you sure you and Sy aren't brothers?? > Applying her line of reasoning to herself, she would be the first > female > in the world that has a prostate; why else would she be > hanging around in this group? In case you forgot, you (allegedly) don't have a prostate either. And my husband had/has PCa which is why I am on here. He doesn't know how to use a computer. > Sy's contributions show more intelligence BWA HA HA!! Sy only knows how to use *big words* and insult people. But frankly I don't care. Nor do I give one sweet damn about you either. Puss orf, you obnoxious Brit.......PLONK!! Heather, As I said I make no attempt to hide the fact that I had a substance abuse problem. You should also know that people who have been in 12 Step programs may continue to go for years after they have stopped doing whatever it is they were doing. A decent person however would not make an issue of it in a place like this. Sy > >> Long time ago?? Then why did you need to know where the AA program > >> was in Curacao when you went there in the past 4 weeks?? Face [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Puss orf, you obnoxious Brit.......PLONK!! Safire wrote on 11/19/2007: "Sy's contributions show more intelligence than Heather's emotional garbage." What's his name wrote on 11/18/2007: "How 'bout you? No character flaws I suppose. You still drinking? Maybe you eat way too much or pick up little boys in AOL chat rooms or somesuch?" Congratulations Safire, you have joined a new group. When you support name-calling and down-right rude behavior, you no longer deserve to be read. You also have been plonked......... GD >>>>> My how clever you are.I once had a substance abuse problem. That was >>>>> a long time ago. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > garbage. >> HF Gourd, What you and some others here don't seem to pick up on is that your own comments while seemingly "supportive" on the surface really demonstrate what a phony you are. Regarding what you call "name calling" I suggest that you give your hypersensitivity to that a rest. You will need all the will and energy you can muster to deal with your "inner beast" so save your indignation for that. I think that you and a few other jerks here ought to get out of the house and away from your screens as this seems to be your sole means of socialization. And thank you Safire for your supportive comments and to several others who have emailed me privately. Sy > Safire wrote on 11/19/2007: "Sy's contributions show more intelligence than > Heather's emotional garbage." [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > garbage. > >> HF > Gourd, > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Sy - Please feel free to ask me any questions about my PCa experience. I stand ready to help anyone. Also feel free to google my initial posts (written in a wine induced fog) sometime in late June through August. I am a younger man (relative to the group) and was very angry about my diagnosis. Still pissed off after treatment. |
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