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This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him. Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.

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Hugh Kearnley - 24 Sep 2007 00:41 GMT
This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him.
Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.

Our Dad passed away early this morning. Coronary occlusion.
Alan had asked me to come down quickly, that Dad was very unwell.
I got there about 10 AM, but ambulance had already taken him to the Western
Infrimary.
Alan was with him when he died.
My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
He wasa  a big MAN!
Steve Jordan - 24 Sep 2007 01:02 GMT
On September 23, Ron Kearnley wrote:

> This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him.
> Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
> He wasa  a big MAN!

Yes he was.

Elsewhere, I have posted a more complete response to the death of my
brother.

Steve Jordan

Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night
      by: Dylan Thomas

      Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
      Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
      Because their words had forked no lightning they
      Do not go gentle into that good night.

      Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
      Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
      Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

      Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
      And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
      Do not go gentle into that good night.

      Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
      Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
      Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

      And you, my father, there on the sad height,
      Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray
      Do not go gentle into that good night.
      Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Steve Jordan - 24 Sep 2007 20:59 GMT
Just to sum up:

He was only 56, dxd last December with extensive bone mets that required
constant morphine -- until his medic was finally convinced that
palliative RT was appropriate. He told me that he had found great relief
and was virtually off the narcotic.

For nearly two weeks he enjoyed a hunting and fishing trip with Ronald,
his oldest son. As of Friday, he was planning to return to organ
playing, something he had recently been unable to do because of the SEs
of his meds.

Then at about midnight Saturday Glasgow time he put off a reply to a
message of mine, saying he was not feeling well. He died a few hours later.

Hugh Kearnley:

Soldier of the Queen
Expert chef
Teacher
Talented organist
Loving father
Loyal friend
Brother in adversity

Let us each in our own time and manner raise a glass to the memory of
our fallen comrade.

Steve J

"No man is an Island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the
Continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a
manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes
me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know
for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee."
-- John Donne
Steve Kramer - 24 Sep 2007 22:17 GMT
> Then at about midnight Saturday Glasgow time he put off a reply to a
> message of mine, saying he was not feeling well. He died a few hours
> later.

His last post to this newsgroup was one of the saddest I have ever seen
here.  His passing caught be my surprise and took me out of action for a
half day, but upon reflection, I wish my father had died of a heart attack.
J - 28 Sep 2007 11:59 GMT
> "Steve Jordan" <mycroftscj1@cox.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> here.  His passing caught be my surprise and took me out of action for a
> half day, but upon reflection, I wish my father had died of a heart attack.

His first post on a cancer newsgroup was to alt.support.cancer Jan 10/07

I wanted to keep him with us, but once he heard there was a prostate cancer
newsgroup, he came right over to ya'll lads and ladies. He sure would have
livened up a.s.c. with his interesting posts, but of course, here's where he
belonged, where he could compare notes about his medicines..

Do you keep poster's email address changes, Steve?
(in case new people want to go back and read his posts?)  Maybe others won't,
since i assume Americans and Canadians won't have the troubles he had in
getting the RT, but I'll save them so I can reread his posts, from time to time

I was so discouraged each time the oncologist(s) refused him palliative RT.  My
uncle has CUP (cancer of unknown primary) and his was diagnosed when his femur
broke (near the knee), in April. He was hospitalized for surgery to put a pin
in and that was when they realized it was mets to the bone. So he had 3 RT
treatments after the surgery (once weekly)  and has little need of pain meds
since.

It was miraculous for Hugh as well. Just wish they'd done it back in Jan or
February, instead of August.
His quality of life would have been so much better...
Quite the tough guy, though, cycling, fishing, pain while sitting to play the
organ, delivering newspapers, taking his cat for rides in the basket of the
bicycle, broke his toe when the chain came off his bicycle on the way to the
oncologist, fell and fractured his elbow, plans to "soothe" pigs in Portugal,
going over to europe to play the organ. He sure crammed a lot of living into
each day.

Did your father have palliative RT, Steve?
I guess that's the other reason, I picked your post to reply to
Best,
J.
Steve Kramer - 28 Sep 2007 19:42 GMT
> Do you keep poster's email address changes, Steve?

I keep the changes when I note that they have changed.  I did not note his
change (other than I had his private email), but I do have his original.
cephod@biznews.net

> (in case new people want to go back and read his posts?)  Maybe others
> won't,
> since i assume Americans and Canadians won't have the troubles he had in
> getting the RT, but I'll save them so I can reread his posts, from time to
> time

I don't know the difference in Canadian and UK health care, but I suspect
that they will eventually gravitate that way.

> Did your father have palliative RT, Steve?

Yes, he did.  Cobalt radiation.  It was fairly successful at decreasing
tumors and nearly killing him each time.  Chemo was worse.
Steve Kramer - 24 Sep 2007 01:48 GMT
> This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him.
> Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
> He wasa  a big MAN!

Well, Gordy:  It would appear Hughie did not get my message.  Maybe God
intended it for you afterall.

Hughie:  I grieve your loss and will spend some time tonight listening to
your organ music.  Save a place for my up there, Shuggie.
alva36@gmail.com - 24 Sep 2007 02:05 GMT
> > This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him.
> > Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> > My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
> > He wasa  a big MAN!

Ronald -

My sincerest condolences.

-Gordy
Alan Meyer - 24 Sep 2007 04:19 GMT
> This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him. Using Dad's
> emails and things to get in touch.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
> He wasa  a big MAN!

Ronald,

We all loved reading your Dad's postings.  He was a big
hearted man.

My condolences to your family.

   Alan Meyer
callalily - 24 Sep 2007 04:53 GMT
On Sep 23, 7:41 pm, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

> This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him. Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch. Our Dad passed away early this morning. Coronary occlusion. Alan had asked me to come down quickly, that Dad was very unwell. I got there about 10 AM, but ambulance had already taken him to the Western Infrimary.

> Alan was with him when he died.
> My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
> He was a  a big MAN!

======>>

Dear Sweet Hughie,

Now it's time for the angels to rejoice and us to weep.  I can't
express how much I loved you, my friend.  I will make you immortal by
writing about you in my own little way.  And I will quote the
beautiful prose-poetry you have already written about the family you
love so much.

To Alan, Jack, Ronnie, Tommy, brother-in-law with the RV, Margaret,
Jean, Chris, Delboy, Paula -- and Tiger, of course -- thank you for
everything you did for my wonderful friend.  And Pastor Graham, you
are a true man of God.  But Alan, you are my hero for caring for your
father so tenderly and diligently. Hughie once referred to you in a
letter as his "wee, HUGE" lad.

And so you are, Alan, a BIG man in every way.  Too bad you had to grow
up so soon.

As a tribute to Hughie, I would like to quote from something I wrote
on my blog on the occasion of Hughie's birthday a few months ago.
("Love on ADT: Hughie: and Me" on prostatecancerblog.net)  The way I
see it, for us it's a death, but for my dear friend it is a REBIRTH.

---------------------------------

July 25, 2007

Co-Latha Breith Sona Dhuibih, Dearest Hughie.

For all of you who don't know Scottish-Gaelic, that means Happy
Birthday. But it can also mean something more. Much more. Here's the
rest of what I said to my Glaswegian friend:

"Just wanted you to know, Birthday Boy, that I read in the paper
yesterday that Bill wants Hillary to be president so that he can be
"First Laddie." Well, Hughie dear, you have already won my heart, and
so you are *my* "First Laddie." And you will still be that "'til aa
the seas gang dry." (But please don't tell Ted.)

And in closing: "Attached, my Luve, is a red, red rose. In return I
expect a melodie that's sweetly played in tune". (Quoting from Robert
Burns' poem.)

Your Lassie Always,

L.

Over the last six months I've gotten to know this man, and my
friendship (OK, it's platonic) with him has enriched my life and Ted's
immensely
I
That's what I like about Hughie. He is not "going gently into the good
night." A career military man, he is fighting hard, "raging against
the dying of the light" (Dylan Thomas).

And why shouldn't he be? Hugh is only 56, and he is the most vital
person I know. I keep on thinking his membership in this club must be
some kind of mistake.

Hughie speaks his mind. He can be bawdy and brash, and occasionally he
gets a bit tipsy. But he is tough on the outside and tender in the
inside. A gentle giant. Hughie is a person who has a big mouth and a
big-heart to go along with it. He's a person who feels deeply: his
emotions run hot and cold, but never lukewarm.

Hugh speaks of the people and things that he loves eloquently, even
poetically. Sometimes I find his letters painful to read.

I can't do justice to Hughie in one message. So there will be more.
And I think you will like it.

--------------------------------------------------
callalily - 24 Sep 2007 05:11 GMT
> On Sep 23, 7:41 pm, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 78 lines]
>
> --------------------------------------------------

=====>>> I did not get to sign my message.  And one more thought,
please:

"As a perfume doth remain
In the folds where it hath lain,
So the thought of you, remaining
Deeply folded in my brain,
Will not leave me: all things leave me:
   You remain.

Other thoughts may come and go,
Other moments I may know
That shall waft me, in their going,
As a breath blown to and fro,
Fragrant memories: fragrant memories
   Come and go.

Only thoughts of you remain
In my heart where they have lain,
Perfumed thoughts of you, remaining,
A hid sweetness, in my brain.
Others leave me: all things leave me:
   You remain."

--Arthur Symons.

Farewell, Hughie.  Send me a sign.

Your friends,
Leah and Ted Cohen
NYC
MAS - 24 Sep 2007 05:38 GMT
We will miss you.

Gourd Dancer
>> On Sep 23, 7:41 pm, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
>> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 114 lines]
> Leah and Ted Cohen
> NYC
Jean - 24 Sep 2007 14:07 GMT
Our thoughts and prayers are with everyone who loved Hughie.  He will be
missed by many!

Jean & Larry
cmdrdata - 24 Sep 2007 15:52 GMT
On Sep 23, 6:41 pm, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him.
> Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
> He wasa  a big MAN!

To the Kearnley family, I wish my sincere cocndolensce for the loss.
I am
happy though that his passing is so quick and seemed like he enjoy
life
to the end.
I.P. Freely - 25 Sep 2007 00:34 GMT
Thank you so much for passing on Hughie's end to us, Ronald. He was a
big man in so many ways, and meant a great deal to all of us. His
personality and heart were a big as his body. We shall all miss him, and
many of us quietly hope we beat our cancer the same way he did if and
when it comes to that. I hope that his death was fast enough that he
hadn't time to suffer yet slow enough that he could enjoy giving his
cancer the finger. (Did anyone check for an extended digit and a slight
smirk on his face?) I will always believe that he, as with many of us,
"chose" one of the best periods of human history in which to live our
lives. It was obvious that he packed more into his life than most people
have, can, or ever will.

I.P. Freely
limey - 24 Sep 2007 16:28 GMT
> This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of
> him. Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
> He wasa  a big MAN!

My condolences, Ronald.   Hughie was a delightful and brave man and I
will miss his postings here.   Those postings showed how big a man he
was.

Dora
Ron B - 24 Sep 2007 19:17 GMT
I'm so sorry about Hughie.

He was indeed a BIG man and helped us all.

Ron Burton

Chicago
Heather - 24 Sep 2007 19:45 GMT
> This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of
> him. Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
> He wasa  a big MAN!

My deepest condolences.....and your Dad was a delightfully outspoken man
and I know we all enjoyed that.

I am glad for his sake that God took him early and didn't let him
suffer.  That was a gift to him.

You were so lucky to have him in your life for as long as you did.

Ron and Heather (Canada)
BH - 26 Sep 2007 16:41 GMT
So Long, Hugh.  I'll miss your posts.

My sincere condolences to his family.

Thank you, Ronald, for letting us know.

Burney dot Huff at Mindspring dot com
rosbif - 24 Sep 2007 22:51 GMT
>This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him.
>Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
>He wasa  a big MAN!

My condolences Ronald, such a loss for you and the rest of your family
and friends.
It's good that he managed at the end to rob PCa of its final claims on
him.
WhiteSoxFan - 25 Sep 2007 02:00 GMT
On Sep 23, 6:41 pm, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him.
> Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
> He wasa  a big MAN!

Ronald and Alan,

My heart skipped a few beats when I read this post today, the 24th. I
am Todd and became friends through these posts with your father about
a half a year ago. When he disclosed his love of wearing White Sox
clothing I offered a trade of a unique White Sox T-shirt for a Rangers
shirt. I only wear the Rangers shirt once in a while as I don't want
to wear it out. I wore it yesterday. I've never met Hugh Kearnley face
to face and yet I feel I know him because of his unabashed
transparency regarding his current life as well as his past
experiences.He also had a love for us fellow prostate guys that showed
as bright as the sun. Hughie's posts were an absolute highlight of my
day. I will miss his sense of humor and kindness to me a sort of
stranger. One of my favorite passages in the Torah is the part where
Jacob's son Joseph was asked by Jacob to go and find his brothers in
the pastures. Joseph travels by way of Goshen and comes across a
stranger and must ask the stranger where his brothers are. Knowing
Hughie was proof to me that in order to find your brother you must
talk to strangers.

So long friend.

WhiteSoxFan
Larry Sabo - 25 Sep 2007 04:09 GMT
>This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him.
>Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.
>
>Our Dad passed away early this morning.

Ronald and Alan, my sincere condolences to you, your family and
friends of Hughie. He was with us here in this support group for such
a short time, but immediately endeared himself to us all. Hughie's
zest for life and strong faith are what I will always remember. We
share in your loss and sorrow, as we have lost a beloved brother.

Larry
Paul - 25 Sep 2007 18:39 GMT
>This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him.
>Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>My best friend in my life has left me. I loved him so much.
>He wasa  a big MAN!

So sorry Ronald, I enjoyed Hugh's contributions to this ng. He will be
missed.

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PSA @ 45 yrs. = 4.7 02/06/2007
Biopsy 03/16/2007 G7(3+4),T1c
RLRP 06/12/2007 G7(3+4),T2cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA 7/16/2007 = <0.1
PSA 9/12/2007 = <0.1

MikeHi - 26 Sep 2007 10:57 GMT
I have wonderful sons as your father had. And so I suspect he will be
listening still, with a smile on his face as he now sleeps peacefully.
And through your distress I suspect he would want you most to smile at
the great memories he has bequeathed to you - and many others.

MikeHi
Richbro - 26 Sep 2007 11:08 GMT
Man Hughie ...... we traded some good emails. You will be missed by
many. My thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends. (gulp)

Rich
dr2354 - 27 Sep 2007 00:19 GMT
Few have made such an impact in so short a time - Rest In Peace.
kh - 27 Sep 2007 01:32 GMT
On Sep 23, 7:41 pm, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> This is from Ronald Kearnley, my dad's first son. I am so proud of him.
> Using Dad's emails and things to get in touch.
>
> Our Dad passed away early this morning. Coronary occlusion.

As I.P. said he beat the cancer!

I am sorry to hear of his death and hope he's having a "banger" "up
there".

translation:

Hugh and I both fancy a pork sausage made in Portugal,  fried in
grease with scrambled eggs.

-kh
chasjac too - 30 Sep 2007 20:03 GMT
Hello, Ronald:

I am sorry to be posting so late about this -- I've been away from the
computer for a few days.  

And I am truly sorry for the loss of your father.  Like many here, I felt
that I got to know him very well.  I loved his humor, his directness, his
passion for his music, and of course I loved his recipes.  I will miss him.  

--charlie

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6/2006 PSA 5.2, DRE suspicious
7/2006 Biopsy:  2 of 10 positive, Gleason 7(3+4)
11/2006 LRP:  Clear margins
PSA < 0.01 on 1/2007, 3/2007, 6/2007
so far, so good ...

 
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