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A Motion to Adjourn is Always in Order

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Steve Jordan - 21 Aug 2007 04:04 GMT
"...the sole end for which mankind are warranted, individually or
collectively, in interfering with the liberty of action of any of their
number, is self-protection. The only purpose for which power can be
rightfully exercised over any member of a civilised community, against
his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or
moral, is not sufficient warrant. He cannot rightfully be compelled to
do or forbear because it will be better for him to do so, because it
will make him happier, because, in the opinion of others, to do so would
be wise, or even right...The only part of the conduct of anyone, for
which he is amenable to society, is that which concerns others. In the
part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right,
absolute. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is
sovereign."
-John Stuart Mill
Shug - 21 Aug 2007 09:24 GMT
I like that observation, Steve.
Thankyou.
Hughie

> "...the sole end for which mankind are warranted, individually or
> collectively, in interfering with the liberty of action of any of their
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign."
> -John Stuart Mill
chasjac too - 21 Aug 2007 09:37 GMT
I'm familiar with the Mill's quote and I like it, but I must ask, Steve,
just what is it you are moving to adjourn?

--charlie
Signature

6/2006 PSA 5.2, DRE suspicious
7/2006 Biopsy:  2 of 10 positive, Gleason 7(3+4)
11/2006 LRP:  Clear margins
PSA < 0.01 on 1/2007, 3/2007, 6/2007
so far, so good ...

Steve Jordan - 21 Aug 2007 21:41 GMT
On August 21, Charlie wrote:

> I'm familiar with the Mill's quote and I like it, but I must ask, Steve,
> just what is it you are moving to adjourn?

I'm not ready to make a motion to adjourn quite yet.

But some others might have that in mind, so I thought I'd re-post this
bit of wisdom.

Regards,

Steve J
chasjac too - 21 Aug 2007 12:42 GMT
> I'm not ready to make a motion to adjourn quite yet.
>
> But some others might have that in mind, so I thought I'd re-post this
> bit of wisdom.

I understand.  And I do think there's a point where one can freely make such
a choice.  But I have very mixed feelings about it, and will never believe
that it is only the person who is affected -- and I base that on a couple
of very painful experiences that affected my entire family and many of my
friends.  

If any one of you is contemplating making a motion to adjourn, please leave
no unfinished business behind.  Very few of our actions affect only
ourselves.  

--charlie

Signature

6/2006 PSA 5.2, DRE suspicious
7/2006 Biopsy:  2 of 10 positive, Gleason 7(3+4)
11/2006 LRP:  Clear margins
PSA < 0.01 on 1/2007, 3/2007, 6/2007
so far, so good ...

Beverley - 22 Aug 2007 04:49 GMT
<SNIP>
If any one of you is contemplating making a motion to adjourn, please leave
> no unfinished business behind.  Very few of our actions affect only
> ourselves.
>
> --charlie

It's impossible not to leave unfinished business. Nor will tears finish
them.
Bev
I.P. Freely - 22 Aug 2007 06:02 GMT
> If any one of you is contemplating making a motion to adjourn, please leave
> no unfinished business behind.  Very few of our actions affect only
> ourselves.  

My in-laws were both in a nursing home in poor condition. My
father-in-law fought like hell to survive, made sure all their family
business was in order, asked for and got a favorite nursing home
attendant's assurance that he would take excellent care of my
mother-in-law, then just took a deep breath and slumped over dead. He
simply had no intention of dying until he was sure his wife of >60 years
was taken care of.

Mom later told us she wanted to spend some Christmas time with us then
go to her husband for Christmas. She died within minutes of midnight
Christmas Eve.

There are a time and place for everything.

I.P.
Steve Kramer - 22 Aug 2007 19:15 GMT
>> I'm not ready to make a motion to adjourn quite yet.
>>
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> no unfinished business behind.  Very few of our actions affect only
> ourselves.

I would make the same recommendation for those who are not looking to name
the time and place.  Many of us have a pretty good idea how long we have.
Some can pinpoint it to a few months; others to a few years.  But, even for
those who have no idea -- those poor guys who just don't seem to have any
idea because they are apparently cured -- you have had a brush with the man
carrying the scythe.  In a strange way, that removal of previous denial of
death serves all of us in one fashion and that is to make sure we have
prepared things for those that will survive us.  And, for those that believe
in something more than this life, it serves to better prepare ourselves.
 
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