Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / August 2007
Merv Griffin Passing
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Tom Cular - 12 Aug 2007 19:25 GMT Here's the AP article on Merv Griffin.
LOS ANGELES - Merv Griffin, the big band-era crooner turned impresario who parlayed his "Jeopardy" and "Wheel of Fortune" game shows into a multimillion-dollar empire, died Sunday. He was 82. Griffin died of prostate cancer, according to a statement from his family that was released by Marcia Newberger, spokeswoman for The Griffin Group/Merv Griffin Entertainment.
From his beginning as a $100-a-week San Francisco radio singer, Griffin moved on as vocalist for Freddy Martin's band, sometime film actor in films and TV game and talk show host, and made Forbes' list of richest Americans several times.
His "The Merv Griffin Show" lasted more than 20 years, and Griffin's said his capacity to listen contributed to his success.
"If the host is sitting there thinking about his next joke, he isn't listening," Griffin reasoned in a recent interview.
But his biggest break financially came from inventing and producing "Jeopardy" in the 1960s and "Wheel of Fortune" in the 1970s. After they had become the hottest game shows on television, Griffin sold the rights to Coca Cola's Columbia Pictures Television Unit for $250 million in 1986, retaining a share of the profits.
"My father was a visionary," Griffin's son, Tony Griffin, said in a statement issued Sunday. "He loved business and continued his many projects and holdings even while hospitalized."
When Griffin entered a hospital a month ago, he was working on the first week of production of a new syndicated game show, "Merv Griffin's Crosswords," his son said.
In recent years, Griffin also rated frequent mentions in the sports pages as a successful race horse owner. His colt Stevie Wonderboy, named for entertainer Stevie Wonder, won the $1.5 million Breeders' Cup Juvenile in 2005.
Griffin started putting the proceeds from selling "Jeopardy" and "Wheel" in treasury bonds, stocks and other investments, but went into real estate and other ventures because "I was never so bored in my life."
"I said `I'm not going to sit around and clip coupons for the rest of my life,'" he recalled in 1989. "That's when Barron Hilton said `Merv, do you want to buy the Beverly Hilton?' I couldn't believe it."
Griffin bought the slightly passe hotel for $100.2 million and completely refurbished it for $25 million. Then he made a move for control of Resorts International, which operated hotels and casinos from Atlantic City to the Caribbean.
That touched off a feud with real estate tycoon Donald Trump. Griffin eventually acquired Resorts for $240 million, even though Trump had held 80 percent of the voting stock.
"I love the gamesmanship," he told Life magazine in 1988. "This may sound strange, but it parallels the game shows I've been involved in."
In 1948, Freddy Martin hired Griffin to join his band at Los Angeles' Coconut Grove at $150 a week. With Griffin doing the singing, the band had a smash hit with "I've Got a Lovely Bunch of Cocoanuts," a 1949 novelty song sung in a cockney accent.
Doris Day and her producer husband, Marty Melcher, saw the band in Las Vegas and recommended Griffin to Warner Bros., which offered a contract. After a bit in "By the Light of the Silvery Moon," starring Day and Gordon MacRae, he had a bigger role with Kathryn Grayson in "So This Is Love." But after a few more trivial roles, he asked out of his contract.
In 1954, Griffin went to New York where he appeared in a summer replacement musical show on CBS-TV, a revival of "Finian's Rainbow," and a music show on CBS radio. He followed with a few TV game show hosting jobs, notably "Play Your Hunch," which premiered in 1958 and ran through the early 1960s. His glibness led to stints as substitute for Jack Paar on "Tonight."
When Paar retired in 1962, Griffin was considered a prime candidate to replace him. Johnny Carson was chosen instead. NBC gave Griffin a daytime version of "Tonight," but he was canceled for being "too sophisticated" for the housewife audience.
Westinghouse Broadcasting introduced "The Merv Griffin Show" in 1965 on syndicated TV. Griffin never underestimated the intelligence of his audience, offering such figures as philosopher Bertrand Russell, cellist Pablo Casals and Pulitzer Prize-winning writer-philosopher-historians Will and Ariel Durant as well as movie stars and entertainers.
He was also a longtime friend of former President Reagan and his wife, Nancy. When the Reagans returned to California in 1988 after eight years in the White House, Griffin and Hilton threw a $25,000-a-table homecoming gala for the couple.
With Carson ruling the late-night roost on NBC in the late 1960s, the two other networks challenged him with competing shows, Griffin on CBS and Joey Bishop (later Dick Cavett) on ABC. Nothing stopped Carson, and Griffin returned to Westinghouse.
A lifelong crossword puzzle fan, Griffin devised a game show, "Word for Word," in 1963. It faded after one season, then his wife, Julann, suggested another show.
"Julann's idea was a twist on the usual question-answer format of the quiz shows of the Fifties," he wrote in his autobiography "Merv." "Her idea was to give the contestants the answer, and they had to come up with the appropriate question."
"Jeopardy" started in 1964 and the more conventional game show "Wheel of Fortune" was begun in 1975.
Mervyn Edward Griffin Jr. was born in San Mateo, south of San Francisco on July 6, 1925, the son of a stockbroker. An aunt, Claudia Robinson, taught him to play piano at age 4, and he soon was staging shows on the back porch.
"Every Saturday I had a show, recruiting all the kids in the block as either stagehands, actors and audience, or sometimes all three," he wrote in his 1980 autobiography. "I was the producer, always the producer."
After studying at San Mateo Junior College and the University of San Francisco, Griffin quit school to apply for a job as pianist at KFRC radio in San Francisco. The station needed a vocalist instead. He auditioned and was hired.
Griffin attracted the interest of RKO studio boss William Dozier, who was visiting San Francisco with his wife, Joan Fontaine.
"As soon as I walked in their hotel room, I could see their faces fall," the singer recalled. He weighed 235 pounds. Shortly afterward, singer Joan Edwards told him: "Your voice is terrific, but the blubber has got to go." Griffin slimmed down, and he spent the rest of his life adding and taking off weight.
Griffin and Julann Elizabeth Wright were married in 1958, and their son, Anthony, was born the following year. They divorced in 1973 because of "irreconcilable differences."
"It was a pivotal time in my career, one of uncertainty and constant doubt," he wrote in the autobiography. "So much attention was being focused on me that my marriage felt the strain." He never remarried.
Besides his son, Griffin is survived by his daughter-in-law, Tricia, and two grandchildren.
The family said an invitation-only funeral Mass will be held at a later date at The Church of the Good Shepherd in Beverly Hills.
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Associated Press writers Beth Harris and Jeff Wilson contributed to this story.
3Putt from CoastalSouth Carolina - 13 Aug 2007 02:02 GMT > Here's the AP article on Merv Griffin. //snip//
I'd be more interested in what the medical reasons were leading up to his death, rather than just reporting a recurrence of prostate cancer.
Rod - 13 Aug 2007 04:17 GMT >> Here's the AP article on Merv Griffin. > //snip// > > I'd be more interested in what the medical reasons were leading up to his > death, rather than just reporting a recurrence of prostate cancer. So would I. I saw part of an interview they did with him in May and he looked and sounded great. What happened in two months?
Heather - 13 Aug 2007 06:24 GMT >>> Here's the AP article on Merv Griffin. >> //snip// [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So would I. I saw part of an interview they did with him in May and he > looked and sounded great. What happened in two months? If that was tonight's Larry King rerun, it was May of 2006......15 months ago. He did look good......and especially for 82.
Heather
Rod - 14 Aug 2007 01:33 GMT >>>> Here's the AP article on Merv Griffin. >>> //snip// [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Heather Oh, I only heard May and assumed this past May but he still looked good for as little as 15 months ago.
Steve Kramer - 13 Aug 2007 09:35 GMT >> Here's the AP article on Merv Griffin. > //snip// > > I'd be more interested in what the medical reasons were leading up to his > death, rather than just reporting a recurrence of prostate cancer. The problem with that is, of course, politicians, sports figures, actors, and moguls rarely give out their personal information... hmmmmm ... It just dawned on me. Neither do we. Everyone here knows just about everything about me and my history, but I don't share it with the media, or my co-workers, or even my family. I dare say, y'all know more about my PCa history than my wife.
Ergo, we will likely never be satisfied with anyone's PCa accounting other than that which we find here.
 Signature PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years Casodex added daily 07/06 PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04 (06/12/2007) Non Illegitimi Carborundum
kh - 13 Aug 2007 12:22 GMT > >> Here's the AP article on Merv Griffin. > > //snip// [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The problem with that is, of course, politicians, sports figures, actors, > and moguls rarely give out their personal information... hmmmmm ... I don't want the *really* personal info but TC and others have a good point.
Some of the news articles "suggest" that this was a surprise relapse. With quick PSA blood tests, there should have been no surprise. There should have been rising PSA for several years leading up to this.
The man was a billionaire with cancer. I would expect a PSA test every few months, reviewed by a top doc, and any rise would be slammed by Lupron and Casodex.
What happened? Was it hormone-resistant AND aggressive? Did he avoid PSA tests? Did he know but declined treatment? Was he on Lupron at the end?
-kh rubbing my butt where I had the last shot. I'd rather rub Mr. Happy.
c palmer - 13 Aug 2007 13:27 GMT "Tom Cular" <tho...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:6gIvi.9586$SV4.4631@trnddc08... Here's the AP article on Merv Griffin. //snip// I'd be more interested in what the medical reasons were leading up to his death, rather than just reporting a recurrence of prostate cancer.
The problem with that is, of course, politicians, sports figures, actors, and moguls rarely give out their personal information... hmmmmm ...
I don't want the *really* personal info but TC and others have a good point.
Some of the news articles "suggest" that this was a surprise relapse. With quick PSA blood tests, there should have been no surprise. There should have been rising PSA for several years leading up to this.
The man was a billionaire with cancer. I would expect a PSA test every few months, reviewed by a top doc, and any rise would be slammed by Lupron and Casodex.
What happened? Was it hormone-resistant AND aggressive? Did he avoid PSA tests? Did he know but declined treatment? Was he on Lupron at the end? -kh
====> kh has some very good points but to take this conversation further, one has to consider what his psa and staging was at the time that they found his pca. that fact is not known. if it was caught early, then, then he would have lived longer than 12 years after the fact.
another point - it is not known how aggressive his gleason score was. another factor in how long he would live.
i'm sure that he got the best of medical care that he could, and even so, pca still took his life.
the same was true with tiger woods father. no amount of money can stop the pca from claiming another victim.
~> curtis
knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
Alan Meyer - 13 Aug 2007 18:49 GMT > ... no amount of money can stop the pca from claiming another victim. Indeed.
We are, after all, mortal. Something will kill each of us no matter how much treatment we get. As we get older, our ability to fight disease and degeneration declines and the best drugs in the world can't save us.
Until the medical researchers figure out how to stop aging (not in our lifetimes I think), I don't think they'll be able to stop death. I heard one gerontologist compare the aging body to a fabric curtain. When it tears you can patch it. But as it ages the very threads themselves deteriorate. There comes a point where you can't sew anything onto it, it just falls apart in your hands.
As for information about Merv Griffin, the doctors and the hospital can't legally give out information and the Griffin family probably has no interest in doing so. Most celebrities and their families have too much intrusion into their private lives already. They don't want to encourage more by giving out personal details. And right now, of course, they've got a lot of other things on their minds besides what a bunch of total strangers thinks about the situation.
We tell things to each other because we're all in the same boat and see the value of sharing information. But we're a little unusual. There must be a hundred thousand men with access to the Internet and the English language who are diagnosed each year. How many of them participate in this or any other support group? I bet 95% of them suffer in silence, telling no one but their immediate families. Some don't even tell them.
Alan
california_chief - 13 Aug 2007 21:02 GMT > There must be a hundred thousand men with access to the > Internet and the English language who are diagnosed each year. > How many of them participate in this or any other support group? > I bet 95% of them suffer in silence, Which is exactly what their doctors want - total ignorance.
The docs don't want their patients to become empowered with knowledge via a local or on-line support group.
Alan Meyer - 14 Aug 2007 12:10 GMT >> There must be a hundred thousand men with access to the >> Internet and the English language who are diagnosed each year. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The docs don't want their patients to become empowered with > knowledge via a local or on-line support group. Surely not all of them. I've had the good fortune to meet some dedicated doctors who really do care about their patients.
Alan
kh - 14 Aug 2007 13:36 GMT > Surely not all of them. I've had the good fortune to meet > some dedicated doctors who really do care about their > patients. Yes they do care and they take their work seriously.
-C
Harold - 14 Aug 2007 13:54 GMT >>> There must be a hundred thousand men with access to the >>> Internet and the English language who are diagnosed each year. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Alan True in my case. My doctor was really good at taking the time to discuss my options, he mentioned the prostate-cancer.org and .gov sites, and the PCRI(?), and the cornell-urology.edu sites, plus he said there were a couple of internet newsgroups dealing with the disease. I have been impressed with his straight dealing and effort to put the info. in front of me in options to deal with this.. From what I hear, the 5 docs in his group has the same approach to helping their patients. Harold
April 07: PSA 7.6 April 07: Urologist first visit June 07: PSA retest 6.7 July 07: Biopsy 16 cores/3 cancer GS 3/3:6 July 07: Consult, schedule surgery Sept. 07: Conventional RP scheduled
Idaho Guy - 14 Aug 2007 17:16 GMT Merv had radiation therapy. This was revealed in an interview he had with with Larry King on March 15, 2003. You can see it in the transcripts located at on the CNN web site under the Larry King section.
>From the transcript, it sounded like his doc offered to do surgery but Merv said that he didn't want anyone to slice him open.
He picked the treatment that was right for him. He fought a good fight and was a real trooper.
All the best,
Idaho
Tom Cular - 14 Aug 2007 01:19 GMT >> ... no amount of money can stop the pca from claiming another victim. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >Alan' I must agree with your view on family privacy. Several years ago I had a colleague who claimed to live near a farm in north Jersey owned by Mr. Griffin (at the time broadcasting from NY) with the name on the mailbox (R. Catkiller), I can't confirm or deny the mailbox story, but he did own a farm near Clinton, NJ. If the story is true, I can understand his desire for some privacy.
Tom
Steve Kramer - 13 Aug 2007 19:10 GMT > What happened? Was it hormone-resistant AND aggressive? Did he avoid > PSA tests? Did he know but declined treatment? Was he on Lupron at > the end? I suspect he had the best doctors money could buy and he never consulted with us.
WhiteSoxFan - 14 Aug 2007 12:53 GMT > I suspect he had the best doctors money could buy and he never consulted > with us. Maybe he did consult with us under a pseudonym. Maybe he knows how brutal the press can be, how disengenious they can be and will distort a story to the point where it actually hurts the cause rather than help by exposure. Maybe we should toast him to a life of material success, relatively long life, perhaps a kind and moral fiber that we don't know about. Maybe he has donated millions or tens of millions to research that he feels the public doesn't need to know about. Maybe a little patience on our part will reveal all the questions we have about him. But, alas, there lies the crux of the problem, lots of times we don't have a lot of time for patience. Particularly we.
WhiteSoxFan
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