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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / July 2007

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Pelerin Galimatias - 02 Jul 2007 20:21 GMT
A very good friend mine had a positive biopsy for prostate cancer
when he was in his late fifties.  He decided to persue watchful
waiting.  Ten years went by and his last PSA had dropped during
the past six months from 10 to 7. About six weeks ago his health
when into serious decline, with persistent bronchitis and difficulty
breathing.  Testing and a biopsy last week found a large pancreatic
tumor, with liver involvment.  He has had a stroke and clots in
his leg and now in his lungs.  The last I heard it was not felt
the the PC was involved.  Is it thought that PC very seldom affects
the pancreas?  (He is a very good friend to many of us.)
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ron - 02 Jul 2007 21:41 GMT
> A very good friend mine had a positive biopsy for prostate cancer
> when he was in his late fifties.  He decided to persue watchful
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PCa metastisizes to the pancreas about 1-2% of the time...ron
Alan Meyer - 02 Jul 2007 22:14 GMT
>> A very good friend mine had a positive biopsy for prostate cancer
>> when he was in his late fifties.  He decided to persue watchful
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> PCa metastisizes to the pancreas about 1-2% of the time...ron

Sorry to hear of your friend's cancer.  Pancreatic cancer is
generally fatal.  See:

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/treatment/pancreatic/healthprofessional

The biopsy of the pancreatic tumor should reveal whether
the tumor cells are prostate cells or pancreatic cells.  Since
the PSA was relatively low, it seems likely that this was not
a prostate cancer metastasis, but the biopsy would confirm
that.

   Alan
Pelerin Galimatias - 02 Jul 2007 23:03 GMT
>>> A very good friend mine had a positive biopsy for prostate cancer
>>> when he was in his late fifties.  He decided to persue watchful
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>    Alan

Thank you for your concern and the reference.  The first thing
that he told me was that "at least I won't die from prostate
cancer".  I would guess that that has been his fear for the past
10 years. At least he got a good 10 years. Terrible things happen
to us.

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Bob C. - 03 Jul 2007 14:22 GMT
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> Sorry to hear of your friend's cancer.  Pancreatic cancer is
> generally fatal.

Alan, for what it's worth, a 50 year old friend and co-worker of mine
with health problems was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer some 12 years
ago. The doctor told him to get his affairs in order and that surgery
was not a very good option for him. The (second opinion) surgeon who did
the surgery removed numerous tumors from most of his body organs and
also told him to go home and get things in order, but that he had a slow
growing pancreatic cancer which was rare and he did have some time.
Another surgery later removed more tumors they did not want to attempt
on first surgery, and today he is still here, 12 years later. I would
not want to give anyone false hope here, and even though the odds may be
very poor, one never knows.
Alan Meyer - 03 Jul 2007 18:55 GMT
> > Sorry to hear of your friend's cancer.  Pancreatic cancer is
> > generally fatal.
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> not want to give anyone false hope here, and even though the odds may be
> very poor, one never knows.

It's hard to call a man lucky who's had pancreatic cancer and had
two major surgeries for it, but among those who have, your friend
appears to be one of the luckier ones.  The NCI web page I cited
earlier indicates an "overall survival rate" of 4% - not very good
odds.
J - 03 Jul 2007 20:02 GMT
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> > Sorry to hear of your friend's cancer.  Pancreatic cancer is
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> not want to give anyone false hope here, and even though the odds may be
> very poor, one never knows.

There's other types of pancreatic tumors
http://162.129.103.53/pancreas/typtable.cfm
Adenocarcinomas, spread to liver, are usually fatal within a year +/-some
months, one way or the other.
Surgeons sometimes try resecting bile ducts, moving some bile ducts over,
resecting gall bladder and a large portion of the liver (and sometimes
spleen). Unfortunately often the cancer is in the part of the liver that had
to be left behind.  The liver regenerates to its normal size. It buys them
time.

Sounds like your friend's might have been a different type?

They just did a whipple on an acquaintance. Removed the gallbladder as well.
Turns out it was a cyst.
Often they don't know all what is, until they get in there.
J
djperry42@sbcglobal.net - 03 Jul 2007 20:59 GMT
There are at least two different types of pancreatic cancer.  One of
them, very uncommon, is curable and offers little to no subsequent
problem to the patient.  That guy Jobs who runs Apple Computer had
this kind and he's doing fine.  Unfortunately for most, a diagnosis of
pancreatic cancer is a death sentence and a quick one at that.
Dave Perry

> > > Sorry to hear of your friend's cancer.  Pancreatic cancer is
> > > generally fatal.
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Steve Kramer - 03 Jul 2007 23:24 GMT
>A very good friend mine had a positive biopsy for prostate cancer
> when he was in his late fifties.  He decided to persue watchful
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> the the PC was involved.  Is it thought that PC very seldom affects
> the pancreas?  (He is a very good friend to many of us.)

I hope, for your friend, it is prostate cancer.  Pancreatic cancer is
usually much worse.
 
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