Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion Groups
General
GeneralCardiologyVisionDentistryPharmacyLaboratoryNutritionAlternative
Diseases and Disorders
AIDSAlzheimer'sArthritisAsthmaCancerBreast CancerDiabetesEpilepsyGlaucomaHepatitisHerpesLupusProstate BPHProstate CancerProstatitisSinusitisTinnitus

Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / May 2007

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Stop! Don't Boil That Broccoli.

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
Mooshee - Knowledge is Health! - 21 May 2007 15:56 GMT
Article Print and Audio: http://www.mooshee.com/article-2996520.htm
Newsfeed: http://www.mooshee.com/newsfeed.php
--------------------------

Mooshee - OK, we all heard from food enthusiasts that veggies should
be eaten pretty much raw, but now some experts at the University of
Warwick (UK) have put broccoli to the test and found out that this
whole don't-boil-your-vegetables thing might be true after all, at
least for brassica vegetables, (broccoli, brussel sprouts,
cauliflower... etc).

Researchers at the University of Warwick have found that the standard
British cooking habit of boiling vegetables severely damages the
anticancer properties of many Brassica vegetables such as broccoli,
Brussel sprouts, cauliflower and green cabbage.

Past studies have shown that consumption of Brassica vegetables
decreases the risk of cancer. This is because of the high
concentration in Brassicas of substances known as glucosinolates which
are metabolized to cancer preventive substances known as
isothiocyanates. However before this research it was not known how the
glucosinolates and isothiocyanates were influenced by storage and
cooking of Brassica vegetables.

The researchers, Prof Paul Thornalley from Warwick Medical School at
the University of Warwick and Dr Lijiang Song from the University of
Warwick's Department of Chemistry bought Brassica vegetables,
(broccoli, Brussel sprouts, cauliflower and green cabbage) from a
local store and transported them to the laboratory within 30 minutes
of purchasing. The effect of cooking on the glucosinolate content of
vegetables was then studied by investigating the effects of cooking by
boiling, steaming, microwave cooking and stir-fry.

Boiling appeared to have a serious impact on the retention of those
important glucosinolate within the vegetables. The loss of total
glucosinolate content after boiling for 30 minutes was: broccoli 77%,
Brussel sprouts 58%, cauliflower 75% and green cabbage 65%.

The effects of other cooking methods were investigated: steaming for
0-20 min, microwave cooking for 0-3 min and stir-fry cooking for 0-5
min. All three methods gave no significant loss of total glucosinolate
analyte contents over these cooking periods.

Domestic storage of the vegetables at ambient temperature and in a
domestic refrigerator showed no significant difference with only minor
loss of glucosinolate levels over 7 days.

However the researchers found that storage of fresh vegetables at much
lower temperatures such as -85 °C (much higher than for storage in a
refrigerator at 4-8 °C) may cause significant loss of glucosinolates
up to 33% by fracture of vegetable material during thawing.

The researchers found that preparation of Brassica vegetables had
caused only minor reductions in glucosinolate except when they were
shredded finely which showed a marked decline of glucosinolate levels
with a loss of up to 75% over 6 hours after shredding.

Professor Thornalley said: "If you want to get the maximum benefit
from your five portions-a-day vegetable consumption, if you are
cooking your vegetables boiling is out. You need to consider stir
frying steaming or micro-waving them."

http://www.mooshee.com/article-2996520.htm

Tim Silva
Ernest Gudath - 21 May 2007 16:27 GMT
Boiling appeared to have a serious impact on the retention of those
important glucosinolate within the vegetables. The loss of total
glucosinolate content after boiling for 30 minutes was: broccoli 77%,
Brussel sprouts 58%, cauliflower 75% and green cabbage 65%.

I had heard stories about the horrors of British cooking, but boiling
broccoli for 30 minutes? Yuk! A tasteless green mush.

The article mentions steaming for 0-20 minutes, which seems a bit vague for
a research report. I steam my veggies for 5-7 minutes, not particularly for
health reasons, but because I like them that way.

Ernie
Hugh Kearnley - 21 May 2007 16:58 GMT
Those people are neither cooks nor chefs. Just scientists with vague ideas.
NO self-respecting (or food respecting) cook/chef would cook broccoli or ANY
veg, by whatever cooking method beyond the point where it still had a
'bone'. The exceptions being Pakoras or Vegetable bakes/casseroles or soups.
THAT from a Professional British Chef. Retired but still active in the
kitchen.
HUGHIE

> Boiling appeared to have a serious impact on the retention of those
> important glucosinolate within the vegetables. The loss of total
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Ernie
chasjac - 21 May 2007 18:12 GMT
On May 21, 11:59 am, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> [snip]
> THAT from a Professional British Chef. Retired but still active in the
> kitchen.
> HUGHIE

I should have realized from all your other posts that you were a
chef.  Your recipes never fail to make my mouth water.

Our asparagus is coming in right now.  I steam them for a bit, but
what I really like to do is to saute them in olive oil and garlic.

--charlie
Norma - 21 May 2007 21:48 GMT
On May 21, 10:59 am, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> Those people are neither cooks nor chefs. Just scientists with vague ideas.
> NO self-respecting (or food respecting) cook/chef would cook broccoli or ANY
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

I am looking for the post with the wonderful recipe in it--it must not
have shown up on Google yet...  It sound delicious, but tell me about
"Quorn" and is it sold in the USA?  Is there anything here like it?

Norma
Hugh Kearnley - 21 May 2007 23:50 GMT
Quorn IS sold in the US & Canada.  It's not soya, but made from a form of
Mushroom fungus called "Mycoprotein"
Look at :   http://www.quorn.com/  Go to your country's flag and click to
see what's available
Regards
Hughie.

PS - It doesn't have the flatulence-inducing properties that TVP (soya) has.
However, if you like flatulating (farting) and Nuns, you might like:
http://www.sillyjokes.co.uk/games/farting-nun.html

> I am looking for the post with the wonderful recipe in it--it must not
> have shown up on Google yet...  It sound delicious, but tell me about
> "Quorn" and is it sold in the USA?  Is there anything here like it?
>
> Norma
Norma - 22 May 2007 01:00 GMT
Thank  you so much!!

Norma

> Quorn IS sold in the US & Canada.  It's not soya, but made from a form of
> Mushroom fungus called "Mycoprotein"
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> >
> > Norma
Steve Kramer - 22 May 2007 01:40 GMT
> Boiling appeared to have a serious impact on the retention of those
> important glucosinolate within the vegetables. The loss of total
> glucosinolate content after boiling for 30 minutes was: broccoli 77%,
> Brussel sprouts 58%, cauliflower 75% and green cabbage 65%.

Ernest!!!

It's been almost a year without a report.  3½ years since you got that
little walnut yanked out.  Still 0.030?

Signature

PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  <.1  <.1  <.1  .27  .37  .75            PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32                       PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145       PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

Ernest Gudath - 22 May 2007 04:50 GMT
Hi Steve.

Yup, still around zero. Everything's cool, but Willie still hasn't shown up
for work.

Ernie

> Ernest!!!
>
> It's been almost a year without a report.  3½ years since you got that
> little walnut yanked out.  Still 0.030?
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.