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Hugh Kearnley - 21 May 2007 15:56 GMT
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Hugh Kearnley - 21 May 2007 16:16 GMT
> http://www.mooshee.com:80/article-2996520.htm

That's the second time this week someone's beaten me with the news.
Dammit. (: >(
Bill - 22 May 2007 15:02 GMT
Add fresh veggies to rapidly boiling water
Boil the hell out of them until they are almost mushy
Strain
Discard yucky veggies
Drink healthy boiling water (let cool first!)

:-)

Bill Denton
RP 2/12/02
PSA 1.5
Memphis
I.P. Freely - 22 May 2007 21:28 GMT
Steam or nuke until hot . . . not one second more.
Add a dab of favorite sauce (not butter or margarine).
Enjoy.

Only my mother-in-law boils broccoli -- or so I thought.

I.P.
Hugh Kearnley - 23 May 2007 23:43 GMT
A "DAB" of favourite sauce -
You wont believe this IP (Hard to keep stopping calling you your real name -
but a promise is a promise!) but my favourite sauce for Broccoli - TWO of
them - One is just a simple Bottle sweet chili sauce dip and the other a
peanut butter dip made liquidish with the same chili sauce! Almost a Malay
Satay.
I tried making a "Cheese sauce" with a mix from "Grassroots" in Glasgow - it
was horrible! The thickener was potato starch and the flavour like cowpats.

However - just make till HOT?

The fibrous content (where most of the  deep-seated nutrients are) - are not
accessible by a simple heating as you suggest. The long strand molecules
REQUIRE a breaking down - or at least - a softening by moist heat, to allow
release of the vital micronutrients within the epithelial cell membranes of
the plant. Even THEN, they require at an absolute minimum, a complete
mastication and crushing action by the teeth - even though they will STILL
be pushed about in the Stomach for several hours in the digestive process
and further broken down before individual stoma are passed to the intestines
for analysis and possible absorption.
Undercooking of plant foods with long chain molecular biosemesis, simply
makes them biochemically unavailable to the human digestive system - unlike
that of ruminant animals, whose digestive systems allow them to obtain
maximum potentials from ingested plant materials.
Undercooking of plant foods, especially those that are exceptionally fibrous
in make-up, such as Brassicas, unless you harvest and eat at an early stage,
will give little nutritional dietary benefit except to promote bowel
motility.
Sorry to have burst your "Bubble" my friend!
I KNOW what I'm rabbitting on about! I'm qualified! (To rabbit - that is!)
Hey - Still love ya!
Hughie.

> Steam or nuke until hot . . . not one second more.
> Add a dab of favorite sauce (not butter or margarine).
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> I.P.
I.P. Freely - 24 May 2007 00:28 GMT
> Undercooking of plant foods with long chain molecular biosemesis, simply
> makes them biochemically unavailable to the human digestive system - unlike
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> will give little nutritional dietary benefit except to promote bowel
> motility.

I'll defer to your expertise. So how long do you recommend cooking
greens such as broccoli? (Keep in mind that at some point taste rules;
the second the sulfur content of broccoli, Brussels sprouts, et.al.
surfaces is the second I don't eat them.)

I.P.
Hugh Kearnley - 24 May 2007 07:50 GMT
If frozen (which I normally buy 'cos it's "fresher") not more than two
minutes after the total defrost for the likes of Broccoli/Cauliflower.
Brussels Sprouts - if left whole - 3 to 4 minutes. Spinach - just wilted.
Cabbage? - depends on the variety, but generally not more than four minutes.
(That's steaming in a bamboo basket)
For stir fries, entirely up to taste. Shredded Brussels Sprouts are gorgeous
in a stir fry just with onions and a few chillies
Fresh produce - I only eat when I know for sure it IS "Fresh" and not
interfered with in some way, Just blanched in boiling water to soften it and
little more. Contrarily, I often eat a young cabbage quite raw as in a Cole
slaw, while the likes of mature Kale takes almost ten minutes to soften
sufficiently to be biologically available when steamed. I like to have a
good "bone" in veggies, can't stand anything that "melts" but don't like it
almost raw either, unless for the likes of crudités.
A real tasty dip for crudités - peanut butter with skim or soya milk, ginger
juice and habanero Tabasco sauce - goes well with both carrot and celery
batons, onion rings, etc.
There are so many methods of cooking for individual veggies, taste accounts
for a lot. Undercooked and overcooked can turn you off any of them.
Soups are a different matter.
Of course - individual preference always takes charge.
Hughie.

>> Undercooking of plant foods with long chain molecular biosemesis, simply
>> makes them biochemically unavailable to the human digestive system -
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> I.P.
WhiteSoxFan - 25 May 2007 13:05 GMT
For stir fries, entirely up to taste. Shredded Brussels Sprouts are
gorgeous
in a stir fry just with onions and a few chillies

"oh what a stupid I am!" I love Brussels Sprouts but always dredded
the long time it took to steam down to the middle. What's a shredding?
Cut lengthwise into eighths? Lopp off the top and bottom and take
apart the leaves? Oh man, I can't wait to experiment in our Wok
tonight. And while I've got you here Hughie, I love Rutabagas. I"ll
dice them with turnips and  other roots and roast them and eat em with
a thai 5 spice mixture, coriander and olive oil. Can you recommend
another simple recipe?

WhiteSoxFan
Hugh Kearnley - 26 May 2007 10:01 GMT
Hiya Todd!

Rutabagas - known over here as "Tumshies" terriffic simply boiled together
with potatoes and turned into a creamy mash - to have with a haggis! THE
meal for Burn's night (25th January) when we celebrate our National Bard.
The mash can be enhanced with chopped/shredded scallions/spring onions. Also
very nice with a forbidden Lamb Cutlet! (And just on it's own with thick
slices of wholegrain bread)

Try cutting your Brussels Sprouts - the stalk part - with a deep cross with
a sharp knife. That cuts the cooking time.
To shred a Sprout - only works well with fresh rather than frozen, (But
frozen - let them defrost first) hold the Sprout head to stalk and just
slice through as you say in eight slices.

Frozen Sprouts are already part cooked - "Blanched" if you like - as all
frozen vegetables are, and you CAN if you and yours can handle the resulting
farting that goes on, eat them just defrosted and shredded in a salad
dressed with just a little Oil and Lemon juice and some Tarragon. be warned
that if you have a ventral hernia, it can get quite painful with all the gas
that's produced!
Stir fried with onions and chillies! - Mmmm! That with some wholegrain
bread....Perfect for when you get home from the game!

One of my favourite ways with small brassicas is to steam them gently so
there's a good "bone" in them and plop them into a Satay or Curry sauce -
ALL veggies go nicely in a curry, but they HAVE to be crunchy and have a
good bite to them, otherwise it's just a mush.
A favourite with Raw onions - slice into very thin rings, then toss them in
a mixture of Tomato Ketchup and tabasco or chilli powder. Let sit in the
fridge for an hour, then roll them up in crisp lettuce leaves and munch.
Great with a beer watching TV.
Broccoli, steamed lightly then drizzled with Satay sauce is another fave of
mine. I could eat that all night - providing there's plenty of chili in it.
I discovered yesterday in a mad mood - that Chili salsa is magnificent with
steamed Salmon and eaten with Nachips! Weird or what?
I'm not so good any more with roasted veggies - out of sight out of mind -
and they end up A'La Crematora.
Hughie.

> For stir fries, entirely up to taste. Shredded Brussels Sprouts are
> gorgeous
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> WhiteSoxFan
Shirley ann - 23 May 2007 11:46 GMT
I cook our broccoli in the microwave. It tastes just like fresh and
stays a bright green.

I cook ours in a a bowl with a lid on it.

shirleyann
 
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