> I've looked it up on the vendor's site and there is the typical
> contentless blather intermixed with statistics.
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> -kh
KH:
Casodex is, indeed, a pill. It acts as an antiandrogen. That means it
blocks the effect of testosterone at the cell level within the body.
It is sometimes used in addition to an LHRH agonist(which stops
production of testosterone) to effect a compete androgen blockade. In
other situations it is used alone, or with a 5 alpha reductase
inhibitor, Proscar and Avodart are trade names for those drugs, and in
this situation will block the ability of circulating testosterone to
bind to cells. This has the effect of choking the prostate cancer
cells from their essential testosterone hormone. Use in this way
allows testosterone to remain in the body and maintain potency,
usually. The side effects are the swelling and tenderness of breast
and nipple tissue. This can be reduced or eliminated by mild radiation
of the breast and nipple area BEFORE treatment with Casodex/5 alpha
drugs. For men who want to fight cancer while maintaing potency, thus
Casodex, alone or with 5 alpha drugs, is an option. It will depend on
the spread of the cancer, the aggressiveness of the cells, the
practice of the oncologist, the wishes of the patient, and wallet
size. I know a man who was on Lupron after radiation for PCa and his
side effects were so umpleasant that he pleaded with his oncologist
for casodex 150 as a monotherapy. It apears to have continued success
and potency has returned.
Casodex is used most commonly in doses of 50 mg and also up to 150. My
pharmacist charges 15$ per pill, 460$ for a 30 day supply of the 50 mg
dose. Without drug insurance coverage this would be a significant cost
to my budget.
kh - 21 Apr 2007 20:42 GMT
On Apr 21, 12:50 pm, tarhoos...@carolina.rr.com wrote:
> for casodex 150 as a monotherapy. It apears to have continued success
> and potency has returned.
> Casodex is used most commonly in doses of 50 mg and also up to 150. My
> pharmacist charges 15$ per pill, 460$ for a 30 day supply of the 50 mg
> dose. Without drug insurance coverage this would be a significant cost
> to my budget.
Thanks. I was on Lupron for 8 months. It worked well but I had all
the side effects. The worse was the out-a control blood sugar, the
mental fog (I work as a software engineer so I have to be real-clear
on the job, unlike the meeting blatherers.) I laughed at the hot
flashes and the joint pain was just a pain.
Cost is definitely a concern. I will keep my medical insurance with
$10/$20/$30 prescription coverage. The savings on Casodex alone will
pay for half my medical insurance. Thanks!
If I can keep my potency, then that's, er, frosting on the lollypop,
so to speak.
-kh Even if I have to use Vitamin-V to stiffen the stick.
Lots of good questions there! Responses in the body of your message.
>I've looked it up on the vendor's site and there is the typical
>contentless blather intermixed with statistics.
Here's another web site that may be helpful.
http://www.prostate-cancer.org/education/sidefx/Strum_ADS.html
>What is the story on Casodex. Does it work well?
In my case, it seems to be effective. My PSA was on an upward trend.
After being on Casodex for about 4 months, the PSA was greatly
reduced. My next PSA will be May 1. I'll post the results here.
>What does it cost? It's a pill, right? Is it expensive? How much
>if you don't have insurance?
It is a small white pill. I am in an HMO. I can get only 30 pills at
a time. The bottle says the "regular" or "full" price of the 30
tablets is $460. I have to pay $30. The $460 seems to be pretty much
in line with the advertised prices of the Canadian "discount"
pharmacies.
>What are the side effects?
Potential side effects are numerous. See the link I provided above.
It does a pretty good job of identifying the side effects and fair job
(at least in my experience) of categorizing them as acute or chronic.
>What are the real side effects? Do you have to take it with Lupron
>or can it work by itself?
It can be used either alone or with something else. I'm taking only
Casodex.
>Can you have erections and orgasms while taking Casodex?
This, also, is covered in the site on side effects.
Best wishes to you.
Keep in touch.
>-kh
kh - 21 Apr 2007 20:49 GMT
> In my case, it seems to be effective. My PSA was on an upward trend.
> After being on Casodex for about 4 months, the PSA was greatly
> reduced. My next PSA will be May 1. I'll post the results here.
Greatly reduced? That is fabulous news! Good going!!!!
I keep hoping that they develop a silver bullet, until then, this
offers solid hope. Especially if I can keep IT, er, up.
-kh
Burney Huff - 25 Apr 2007 01:17 GMT
>> In my case, it seems to be effective. My PSA was on an upward trend.
>> After being on Casodex for about 4 months, the PSA was greatly
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>-kh
Yes, it's greatly reduced; but, keep in mind we're talking about REAL
low PSA numbers here. After my PSA started rising in 2005, we watched
it for 5 tests at three-month intervals to make sure we knew what the
trend was. Although the numbers were low, it appeared that the
doubling rate was going to be about every 6 months. As soon as we
determined that it was, in fact going north at an unsatisfactory pace,
I elected to start Casodex sooner rather than later. I'll know next
week if the downward trend that started with the 2/1 blood draw
continues. I'll post it here.
If you can keep the #1 tool functioning, more power to you. I'm happy
for you! After my surgery in 1995 diminished my ability and radiation
in 2000 eroded it further, the Casodex has pretty much eliminated
whatever small amount of ability I had left. The only bright side of
this is that the reduced libido makes one not care so much, anyway.
The other side effects of Casodex are certainly no fun either; but,
I'm alive and the PSA seems to be on a downward slope. I'm starting
into my 13th year after initial diagnosis and I'm doing pretty much
what I want, within the constraint of being tired enough and sore
enough to not want to take on some more physical activities. I
retired early this year and I'm enjoying myself. My wife is very
understanding and supportive. Life is good. I'll take it.
Best wishes to you!
Burney
orchids58 - 26 Apr 2007 20:05 GMT
> >> In my case, it seems to be effective. My PSA was on an upward trend.
> >> After being on Casodex for about 4 months, the PSA was greatly
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> Burney
Dear Burney,
Ike was okay too after his surgery,took a lot of work but no pills,
but I guess the radiation will take care of that ? I just want him
alive.
We are through 1st treatment, how long does the radiation take to stop
this number 1 tool? I need to prepare him mentally.
Life is good with you here Burney !!!!!!!!!
Charlotte