PSA Doubling Predicts Prostate Cancer Recurrence
Main Category: Prostate / Prostate Cancer News
Article Date: 13 Apr 2007 - 11:00 PDT
A detectable level of prostate-specific antigen (PSA) is the first indicator
of recurrent prostate cancer after radical prostatectomy. In a new Mayo
Clinic study, the concept of PSA doubling time (DT) is found to be a
reliable tool to distinguish which patients have prolonged innocuous PSA
levels after therapy from those who are at great risk for disease recurrence
and death from prostate cancer. Doubling time is defined as the duration for
PSA levels in the blood to increase by 100 percent.
Mayo's study, published in the April issue of Mayo Clinic Proceedings,
concludes that patients with a PSA doubling time of less than three months
after therapy are at imminent risk of death from prostate cancer. Patients
with a doubling time of three to 12 months are at a significant risk for the
development of systematic disease and cancer-specific death.
According to the authors, the new findings should prompt physicians whose
patients have doubling times of less than one year to treat them with
systematic therapies. Patients with PSA doubling times of one to 10 years
are more likely to have a local rather than systematic recurrence, and
patients with a PSA doubling time of greater than 10 years are at a low risk
of recurrence.
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Authors of the study are Michael Blute, M.D.; Matthew Tollefson, M.D.; and
Bradley Leibovich, M.D., all from the Mayo Clinic Department of Urology; and
Jeffrey Slezak from Mayo's Division of Biostatistics.
Contact: John Murphy
Mayo Clinic

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05
Non Illegitimi Carborundum
rosbif - 16 Apr 2007 19:44 GMT
>PSA Doubling Predicts Prostate Cancer Recurrence
>Main Category: Prostate / Prostate Cancer News
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>Contact: John Murphy
>Mayo Clinic
Steve, this kind of info, pinning down doubling times as it does, is
always highly pertinent to us...and yes, the portents for a rapid
doubling time will surprise few of us - no more than the reassuring
result of DT>10 years. What is the slightly new twist? (perhaps the
3-month/1year/10 year break points are now more specific than
before?).
Steve Kramer - 17 Apr 2007 02:12 GMT
> Steve, this kind of info, pinning down doubling times as it does, is
> always highly pertinent to us...and yes, the portents for a rapid
> doubling time will surprise few of us - no more than the reassuring
> result of DT>10 years. What is the slightly new twist? (perhaps the
> 3-month/1year/10 year break points are now more specific than
> before?).
To me, that is the new twist. I've not seen it established in such detail
before.

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05
Non Illegitimi Carborundum
Dick Smith - 16 Apr 2007 21:53 GMT
Is the psa doubling time AFTER treatment such as RRP? Or does it also
include the likely of recurrance before treatment?
Steve Kramer - 17 Apr 2007 02:14 GMT
> Is the psa doubling time AFTER treatment such as RRP? Or does it also
> include the likely of recurrance before treatment?
The first sentence says "recurrent" prostate cancer. I'm assuming its for
after treatment.

Signature
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05
Non Illegitimi Carborundum
I.P. Freely - 16 Apr 2007 22:28 GMT
Does DT start at initial treatment, or when the PSA increase begins?
I.e.. if we're level for five years but then PSA starts doubling, say,
every year, what measurement matters . . . the new doubling rate or the
whole several-year curve?
I.P.
A. Black - 17 Apr 2007 04:36 GMT
> Does DT start at initial treatment, or when the PSA increase begins?
> I.e.. if we're level for five years but then PSA starts doubling, say,
> every year, what measurement matters . . . the new doubling rate or the
> whole several-year curve?
It is calculate for regions of the PSA chart that are rising linearly
when
plotted on semilog axes (PSA is on log scale, time on regular scale).
This four-part series discusses applications of PSADT in Part 1,
importance of graphics to determine correct region to
apply it to in first portion of Part 2 and various free online tools
to calculate PSADT in rest of part 2 and in parts 3 and 4.
http://palpable-prostate.blogspot.com/2007/03/psa-doubling-time-psadt-part-1.html
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I.P. Freely - 17 Apr 2007 06:28 GMT
>> Does DT start at initial treatment, or when the PSA increase begins?
>> I.e.. if we're level for five years but then PSA starts doubling, say,
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>
> http://palpable-prostate.blogspot.com/2007/03/psa-doubling-time-psadt-part-1.html
I was pretty sure that was the case, but very much appreciate this
specific, precise tutorial on the subject despite its implication that
even many years of "zero" PSA guarantees us squat.
I.P.