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Pee'ed in my sleep?!?!

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kh - 05 Apr 2007 13:43 GMT
I had a chest biopsy yesterday, the doc's have been tracking a growth
in my lymph nodes.  It's more cancer, drat!!!!

Last night I got up to pee, the first time I've done that in 2 years.
I had pee'ed in my sleep.

It was cold and I was sleeping in knock-around pants and a hoodie.
The pants caught it all and I didn't wet the bed.

Maybe the anesthesia combined with drinking a quart of water that
night had messed up my body?

I got up a couple times to pee and again in the morning.  Each time, I
was dribbling instead of peeing hard and strong.

Is this an inflammatory response?  Has this happened to you?

-kh
Steve Kramer - 05 Apr 2007 18:36 GMT
>I had a chest biopsy yesterday, the doc's have been tracking a growth
> in my lymph nodes.  It's more cancer, drat!!!!

Dammit, kh!

I guess that explains the chart.

How much did they find?  Is it somewhere that they can zap it?

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kh - 05 Apr 2007 19:43 GMT
> I guess that explains the chart.

Hopefully.  Hope it's prostate cancer and not some OTHER cancer.

> How much did they find?  Is it somewhere that they can zap it?

Their pathologist looked at it while I was knocked out. Before they
booted me, the surgeon gave me a description but I was still out-of-it
and don't recall exactly what he said.  It sounded like "adrenal
carcinoma" but I'm sure that wasn't it.

He said it's malignant, he can't operate, and won't have any details
until the full path-report is ready next week.

I'm guessing I'm a medical oncologist case now.  I don't know if they
can beam me with their Trilogy.

We'll see.

-kh
Steve Kramer - 05 Apr 2007 22:05 GMT
> Their pathologist looked at it while I was knocked out. Before they
> booted me, the surgeon gave me a description but I was still out-of-it
> and don't recall exactly what he said.  It sounded like "adrenal
> carcinoma" but I'm sure that wasn't it.

Just looked it up on www.healia.com.  It could be it, although it's not very
common.  But, it also sounds operable if it's not advanced.  It also has a
staging convention very close to prostate cancer.

> I'm guessing I'm a medical oncologist case now.  I don't know if they
> can beam me with their Trilogy.

I didn't note any mention of radiation in the article I read.

But then, you don't think it's adrenal carcinoma.
kh - 06 Apr 2007 03:51 GMT
> But then, you don't think it's adrenal carcinoma.

Maybe he said "adenocarcinoma".

I remember he kinda shrugged, which would fit the "we gotta wait for
the full path report."

-kh
Steve Kramer - 06 Apr 2007 21:44 GMT
>> But then, you don't think it's adrenal carcinoma.
>
> Maybe he said "adenocarcinoma".

That would be cancer in a gland.  Were they found near a gland?
kh - 07 Apr 2007 00:38 GMT
> "kh" <tch...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > Maybe he said "adenocarcinoma".
>
> That would be cancer in a gland.  Were they found near a gland?

I looked up "adenocarcinoma" and it seems to mean a cancer from
glandular tissue, such as the prostate.  Maybe I have mets to my chest
lymph nodes, lungs, or both?

Last summer, a CAT-scan picked up "something" in my chest, lungs or
maybe lymph nodes.  The docs have been tracking this.  That's about
the same time my PSA started up.

Last year, I had a couple more scans, an MRI, and conventional X-rays,
each time, they said, there's something in your chest.

Parallel to that, the rad-onc was getting more worried about the
rising PSA but said, mets usually go to the bone, like the spine and
not to the lungs or lymph nodes.  He said it has happened but it was
unusual.

In February, I had the worse asthma I've ever had and went back to the
pulmonary doc.

The team, pulmo, rad-onc, and internal medicine, sent me for a
mediastinoscopy to recover a snip of a lymph node.  That's where we
are now.

I'll get the path report next Wednesday.

I still have a touch of the asthma and am taking ADVAIR 250/50 and
Singulair 10.   About once an hour or two, I cough up the strangest
sputum.  It's clear, really sticky, and hangs in strings or sheets.

I look at it and think, nah, that's not semen, is it?

-kh - There is an resemblance. Coughing it up is nowhere near as much
fun as squirting used to be.
rosbif - 05 Apr 2007 19:09 GMT
>I had a chest biopsy yesterday, the doc's have been tracking a growth
>in my lymph nodes.  It's more cancer, drat!!!!

Very sorry to hear that, kh.

>Last night I got up to pee, the first time I've done that in 2 years.
>I had pee'ed in my sleep.
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>
>Is this an inflammatory response?  Has this happened to you?

Yes, twice now, and under similar circumstances - I see from your
other post it was the anesthetic that did for you.  For me it was
really sound, deep sleep, much deeper than usual.   I woke up to an
estimated 100ml wet patch but had a full bladder to void also - I must
have been gradually leaking whatever was over my comfortably full
bladder limit.  So even if we're passed as 'continent' these days,
there's still a significant risk of reduced ability to dam up against
high pressure - for some of us anyway.

>-kh
kh - 05 Apr 2007 23:28 GMT
> Yes, twice now, and under similar circumstances - I see from your
> other post it was the anesthetic that did for you.  For me it was
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> there's still a significant risk of reduced ability to dam up against
> high pressure - for some of us anyway.

The funny part of this is that I usually sleep through the night and
when I get up in the morning, I've got SECONDS to get to the urinal.
Well, maybe a minute but not five minutes.

Last night I woke up about 1:00 AM and, hey, what's going on?   My
jeans and boxers were wet, not soaked-soaked but definitely wet.  Good
thing they were my heavy jeans.

When I went to pee, I dribbled.   It was like a few months after the
seeding.

I changed my boxers and went back to sleep.

I got up again at 3:00 AM and dribbled again.

Finally at 5:00 AM I decided to stay up.  This after the third round
of dribbling.

I figure it's like my ED, everything works but it doesn't work under
all conditions.

As you say, anything that would make us sleep sounder than usual puts
us at risk.   Like you, I'm considered 100% continent.  Uh-uh.  Under
normal circumstances, I am but show me a movie of Niagra Falls and I'm
hopping on one leg, or doing the knees together Twist.

I mentioned this to a gal and she said that she's not far behind us,
that she'll be sleeping in diapers in a few years.

-kh they gave me some percocet but I'm afraid to take it.
Shirley ann - 06 Apr 2007 12:01 GMT
My husband gets up once in the middle of the night.
His Urologist gave him Flomax to take since his radiation seed implant
in March.

He sees his urologist and his oncologist in May again. He has to have a
PSA before he sees them.

shirleyann
 
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