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Steve Jordan - 02 Apr 2007 23:32 GMT
For those of us who still have an active Sense of Wonder, here is the
APOD (Astronomical Picture of the Day) site from NASA:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

Wonderful indeed.

Regards,

Steve J

"When I play with my cat, who knows whether she isn't amusing herself
with me more than I am with her?"
--Montaigne
Alan Meyer - 03 Apr 2007 00:44 GMT
> For those of us who still have an active Sense of Wonder, here is the APOD (Astronomical
> Picture of the Day) site from NASA:
>
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>
> Wonderful indeed.

I was just thinking that was pretty cool when it occurred to
me that "hot" would be a better description.

   Alan
chasjac - 03 Apr 2007 01:11 GMT
APOD pictures have been one of my daily rituals for a few years now.
No matter how I feel, they always make me smile.

--charlie
Heather - 03 Apr 2007 03:35 GMT
> For those of us who still have an active Sense of Wonder, here is the
> APOD (Astronomical Picture of the Day) site from NASA:
>
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>
> Wonderful indeed.

Thanks muchly for that link.  I looked back at previous pictures and
there is a gorgeous one of a bridge over the Tagus River in Portugal.
How beautiful!!  So that is one sight I plan on seeing in June.  So much
to see, so little time.

Cheers......Heather  (bookmarked that website)
Just - 03 Apr 2007 18:58 GMT
>> For those of us who still have an active Sense of Wonder, here is the
>> APOD (Astronomical Picture of the Day) site from NASA:
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>
>Cheers......Heather  (bookmarked that website)

Hi Heather!

Thanks for the Lisbon picture. It looks nicer than what I see every
day...

Just
Heather - 04 Apr 2007 05:21 GMT
>>> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Thanks for the Lisbon picture. It looks nicer than what I see every
> day...

Hi Just......I may pick your brain on Portugal.  Our flights are booked,
but trying to figure out what to see is mind-boggling.  We arrive in
Lisbon and will travel north and leave from Porto.  I would love to get
up to Santiago in Galicia, but that may be a longer trip than I realize.
We have been to Spain 3 times, but this is our first in Portugal.
Taking our daughter with us because we enjoy travelling with her.  She
is in charge of the "sight-seeing", grin.

Cheers......Heather (and Ron and Elayne)
Just - 04 Apr 2007 19:15 GMT
>>>> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>Cheers......Heather (and Ron and Elayne)

Hi Heather!

I would be glad to advise you on this issue. But for that I would need
to know your constrains / timing / wishes / style of tourism, etc.,
etc.

Just
Heather - 05 Apr 2007 21:15 GMT
> Hi Heather!
>
> I would be glad to advise you on this issue. But for that I would need
> to know your constrains / timing / wishes / style of tourism, etc.,
> etc.

Thanks, Just......

I have spent all afternoon hunting on the Internet and boy.....Portugal
has become very expensive, lol.  I am seriously looking at the Best
Western Premier Eduardo VII in Lisbon for a week.  Then I will tackle
what is available in Porto for a week.

We arrive June 8th......leave from Porto June 28th.  There are 3 adults
and that is causing a problem somewhat.  I will make my daughter sleep
on the floor!!!  (G)  Pousadas are just a tad too expensive.

There will be a week in between that I have to figure out where and what
to see.  I would love to go up into Galicia, but we are still not sure
if we will bother renting a car.  May just take trains and buses.

We love castles, old churches, historical sites and trying out local
cuisine.  You can reach me via the following munged address (without
quotes) and I will reply to you via my regular email.  "heatherfig at
gmail dot com"

Thank you so much for your help.

Cheers.....Heather (Figueroa)
dave perry - 05 Apr 2007 22:45 GMT
Heather, I tried sending this to your email but for some reason it
bounced back.  So, I'll include it here - everyone else please
forgive.  I've been to Portugal a couple of times and thoroughly
enjoyed my stays there.  I can offer a little advice on places to go
and things to do.

First off, the food is generally excellent  - especially the soups and
desserts.  I think their national dish, bacalhau (salted cod) is
grossly overrated - in fact simply gross, maybe you have to be born
there to like it.  Everything else is quite good.

There's plenty to see and do in Lisbon.  Besides the museums,
cathedrals and such, take a train to the coastal towns of Cascais and
Sintra, both very nice.  There are two impressive castles nearby, one
Moorish, and both can be reached by public bus or you can sign up for
a private tour that leaves from either Cascais or Sintra, I can't
remember which.

In Porto, see to it that you spend some time Port tasting in the many
establishments down on the river's edge.  Be prepared though to walk
(stagger?) - not drive - back to your hotel.  In the US, when you go
wine tasting, they give you a little sip in the bottom of the glass.
In Porto, they give you about half a glass and refills on demand and
then start all over for another variety.  I was barely able to find my
way back to my hotel.  You must take a train ride up the Douro River.
It is absolutely gorgeous with the grape vines and all.  A nice side-
trip is to Amarante which can also be reached by train although the
second leg of the train is more like a railbus than a train.  The town
is a resort type area with lots of nice outdoor cafes, etc. on the
river.  Another nice place is Coimbra, a university town with lots of
good atmosphere.

As for cathedrals and churches, fear not - there's one on every
corner.  Portugal has to be the world leader in time and money spent
on building churches.  Any  guide book will direct you to those of
greatest historic interest and importance.

Finally, if you drive, the toll booths on the highways have lanes
reserved for people with electronic passes (called FastTrak in the
US).  If you get into one of these and stop to try to pay or to get a
ticket, you will surely be killed.  Those with passes race through
these at 70+ miles per hour and there is no way they could possibly
stop in time for the befuddled tourist.  As you approach the toll
areas, keep an eye out - these lanes should be obvious.

Happy traveling,
Dave Perry

> > Hi Heather!
>
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>
> Cheers.....Heather (Figueroa)
ron - 05 Apr 2007 22:56 GMT
Last time I was there, absinthe ( the authentic stuff, not this highly
diluted drink that is widely marketed today in many parts of the
world) was still legally obtainable at bars and restaurants...ron
Heather - 06 Apr 2007 00:15 GMT
Thank you so much Dave......and I did change my Rogers address last
year, which is perhaps why you had a problem.  I have GMail hooked up to
forward it to my new one.

I have heard from "Just" and I have now booked a hotel in Lisbon for 7
days.   My travel agent is baffled because she had suggested this hotel,
but it is now full up.  I got it thru a booking company and have my
confirmation in hand and didn't pay up front!!

I was going to heave Ron out the window because he kept changing his
mind as to where we would go......and how and so on, lol.  I told him we
were NOT driving because *roundabouts* were grounds for divorce.

I will drop a line to your aol address and talk things out with you.
How wonderful to have you and "Just" to discuss things with!!!!

Obrigado, mes amis (so far that is the only word I know in portuguese,
grin)
> Heather, I tried sending this to your email but for some reason it
> bounced back.  So, I'll include it here - everyone else please
[quoted text clipped - 79 lines]
>>
>> Cheers.....Heather (Figueroa)
Just - 06 Apr 2007 18:39 GMT
>First off, the food is generally excellent  - especially the soups and
>desserts.  I think their national dish, bacalhau (salted cod) is
>grossly overrated - in fact simply gross, maybe you have to be born
>there to like it.  Everything else is quite good.

>Happy traveling,
>Dave Perry

Hi David,

I was born there (here...) and confess that I don't appreciate recipes
based on dried / salted cod! Except maybe "bacalhau espiritual" (kind
of mashed potatoes + mashed cod + cream that goes into the oven...
please don't ask me more, I just eat it - don't cook...).

However, as you say, many people like "bacalhau" and you have entire
books only with "bacalhau" recipesÂ…

I was surprised you didn't mention fish. I would have thought that
grilled fish is the local best when it comes to food!

Just
Heather - 06 Apr 2007 19:20 GMT
>>First off, the food is generally excellent  - especially the soups and
>>desserts.  I think their national dish, bacalhau (salted cod) is
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> I was surprised you didn't mention fish. I would have thought that
> grilled fish is the local best when it comes to food!

Yum.....we love grilled fish!!  And I wonder if your "bacalhau" is not
very much the same as the Jamaican "salt fish and ackee".  Smells
absolutely awful but Ron loves it.  There are many people of Portuguese
ancestry on that Island.  Not so many Spanish.

Plugging away on the reservations.....got Lisbon booked.  Know what is
available in Porto.  Now I just have to yell at Ron and Elayne and get
them to figure out where they want to go in between.  Should have sorted
this out first.  OTOH, our travel agent suddenly got us half-price
flights, so grabbed them.  Sigh......

Heather (and Just is being absolutely super with links and
advice.....many thanks, Just.)
Just - 06 Apr 2007 22:29 GMT
>Yum.....we love grilled fish!!  And I wonder if your "bacalhau" is not
>very much the same as the Jamaican "salt fish and ackee".  Smells
>absolutely awful but Ron loves it.  There are many people of Portuguese
>ancestry on that Island.  Not so many Spanish.

I am not sure... I have never been to Jamaica. Around that area, I
have been in Cuba, Dominican Republic and Mexico - but I never came
across anything similar to "bacalhau".

Bacalhau is fresh cod that is dried and salted. Then you can keep it
at room temperature for months and years... This is an approach
originated in the old days when there were no fridges...

When you want to use it, you have to place the cod in water to hydrate
and change the water a few times to release the extra salt. Then...
you can pick up one of those recipe books and select one of the
hundreds (literally) recipes for bacalhau...

Appreciating bacalhau is probably a cultural thing: you like it
because you got used to it as a child... (like steak and kidney pie
for the English??).

Just
dave perry - 06 Apr 2007 20:07 GMT
> >First off, the food is generally excellent  - especially the soups and
> >desserts.  I think their national dish, bacalhau (salted cod) is
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Just

I do remember eating grilled fish and it was excellent.  You also
reminded me of some really fine grilled fish meals I had on the island
of Sao Miguel in the Azores.  Complete meal with a full bottle of wine
(staggered back to my hotel there too) including cheese plate and
salad all for about $8.  Of course this was some time ago but still
fresh in my memory.
Dave Perry
Just - 06 Apr 2007 21:36 GMT
>I do remember eating grilled fish and it was excellent.  You also
>reminded me of some really fine grilled fish meals I had on the island
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>fresh in my memory.
>Dave Perry

Those were the days... Now you would pay more than that just for the
wine!

Just
Heather - 07 Apr 2007 00:13 GMT
Dave....is your below AOL address right??  I just had an email bounce
saying that someone didn't like you, grin.  I realized I had sent via my
munged address and was just writing to give you the right one.

Cheers.....Heather

>> >First off, the food is generally excellent  - especially the soups
>> >and
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> fresh in my memory.
> Dave Perry
dave perry - 07 Apr 2007 02:26 GMT
> Dave....is your below AOL address right??  I just had an email bounce
> saying that someone didn't like you, grin.  I realized I had sent via my
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> "dave perry" <jud...@aol.com> wrote in message

Nope, try

djperry42@sbcglobal.net

That ought to work.
Dave
dave perry - 07 Apr 2007 02:32 GMT
Let's try this again.  The previous post (which I asked be expunged)
didn't come out right.  I fixed it below and here it is again,

djperry42@sbcglobal.net

> On Apr 6, 4:13 pm, "Heather" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:> Dave....is your below AOL address right??  I just had an email bounce
> > saying that someone didn't like you, grin.  I realized I had sent via my
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> That ought to work.
> Dave
dave perry - 07 Apr 2007 02:35 GMT
Somebody help he out here.  My email address is not djperr...
The three dots are supposed to be y42.  I've tried this twice and got
the same nonsense.  I'll try it another way:

djperry42 at sbcglobal dot net

See if the buggers can screw that up.
Dave

> Let's try this again.  The previous post (which I asked be expunged)
> didn't come out right.  I fixed it below and here it is again,
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -
Heather - 07 Apr 2007 04:50 GMT
Sheesh.....using AOL was bad enough, lol.  Now I will tell you why there
are 3 dots.  You are posting via Google and that is how they "munge"
anyone's address.  Don't think it is worth an ounce of goose pee,
myself!!

I will write you at the sbc address and hope it gets there.

Cheers.....Heather

> Somebody help he out here.  My email address is not djperr...
> The three dots are supposed to be y42.  I've tried this twice and got
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
rosbif - 03 Apr 2007 07:33 GMT
>http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

quite fantastic - the mind boggles as to how.

Call me a cynic, but I had to quickly check the date of the photo (do
you have 'fools day' on April 1st in the US?)   Years ago the BBC did
an April 1st panorama special on the spaghetti farmers of Switzerland
succeeding in duping quite a lot of us into believing the stuff was
grown in orchards, on trees, and then laid out in the sun to dry.  Oh
such joyous naivety.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb6XLunYtIE  (terrible picture quality
from 50's UK tv)

Anyway, sorry for the off-topic offshoot, it's a great picture -
fascinating.
I.P. Freely - 03 Apr 2007 20:37 GMT
>> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>
> quite fantastic - the mind boggles as to how.

High-resolution, highly filtered, highly stabilized camera in orbit
above the atmosphere. It's just simple physics and engineering. I don't
see any room for skepticism, except from those of the American southwest
who believe lunar eclipses are caused by "the gods", that only the white
man could invent such nonsense as the earth blocking the sun's light
from the moon.

> Call me a cynic, but I had to quickly check the date of the photo (do
> you have 'fools day' on April 1st in the US?)   Years ago the BBC did
> an April 1st panorama special on the spaghetti farmers of Switzerland
> succeeding in duping quite a lot of us into believing the stuff was
> grown in orchards, on trees, and then laid out in the sun to dry.  Oh
> such joyous naivety.

I.P.
rosbif - 04 Apr 2007 07:05 GMT
>>> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>>
>> quite fantastic - the mind boggles as to how.
>
>High-resolution, highly filtered, highly stabilized camera in orbit
>above the atmosphere. It's just simple physics and engineering.

..quite so, but it's the marvel of the hexagon and its cause that has
me spellbound, not the photographic kit.

> I don't
>see any room for skepticism, except from those of the American southwest
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>I.P.
I.P. Freely - 04 Apr 2007 16:32 GMT
>>>> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>>> quite fantastic - the mind boggles as to how.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>> such joyous naivety.
>> I.P.

We must be looking a different pictures. My comments referred to the
sunspot Steve's link took me to. Turns out the link is dynamic, changing
each day, thus the confusion.

I.P.
chasjac - 04 Apr 2007 19:06 GMT
There's a scroll feature, so you can go through the archives.  There
are over ten years worth of photos at APOD.

Steve wanted us to look at April 2.  If you scroll back to April 1,
that one is pretty good, too. ;-)

--charlie
rosbif - 05 Apr 2007 07:32 GMT
>We must be looking a different pictures. My comments referred to the
>sunspot Steve's link took me to. Turns out the link is dynamic, changing
>each day, thus the confusion.

I'd not seen the NASA site before so had no idea - cross purposes par
excellence.

The sunspot is a beautiful picture but it's the oddity and mystery of
the hexagon that gets my sci-fi sap rising - so weird I suspected a
dab of April 1st photoshopery (just in case anyone was trying to
fathom the connection between sunspots and spaghetti-farming and
thought I'd lost my marbles!)
cpw - 03 Apr 2007 22:50 GMT
> For those of us who still have an active Sense of Wonder, here is the
> APOD (Astronomical Picture of the Day) site from NASA:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> with me more than I am with her?"
> --Montaigne

Space bees!  Aiieeeeeeeeee!
 
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