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John Loomis - 23 Mar 2007 00:46 GMT
Hello,
   I have an ancient dial-up connection and have moved forward to a
broadband connection.  My old server had News Groups which I used all the
time and accessed this group.
With Hughes.Net, I do not have a news server and was looking for some
suggestions.
You know this News Group helped me be here to this day, and I sure want to
keep posted.
John Loomis
Prostate Cancer Survivor
Alan Meyer - 23 Mar 2007 01:54 GMT
> Hello,
>     I have an ancient dial-up connection and have moved forward to a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> John Loomis
> Prostate Cancer Survivor

John,

The easiest approach may be to use Google.  Go to:

  http://groups.google.com

Register with your name and email address and you'll get access that
enables you to read and post to this and many other newsgroups.

Click the Help link to figure out what to do.

By the way, Google does a reasonably good job of protecting your
email address from spammers.

   Alan
Steve Jordan - 23 Mar 2007 02:00 GMT
(snip)

> With Hughes.Net, I do not have a news server and was looking for some
> suggestions.

There is a number of servers that include not only e-mail but newgroups.

I use Mozilla Thunderbird, which is similar to, but not subject to the
problems of, the Microsoft garbage.

And it's free.

It also offers Mozilla Firefox, a very fine browser.

See, http://www.mozilla.org/

Regards,

Steve J
I.P. Freely - 23 Mar 2007 04:19 GMT
> Hello,
>     I have an ancient dial-up connection and have moved forward to a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> You know this News Group helped me be here to this day, and I sure want to
> keep posted.

I had to try three ISPs to find one which provided all the posts
available (many drop most posts); you may want to try another ISP if
Hughes verifies that they do not provide USENET access.

I.P.
NICK - 23 Mar 2007 07:04 GMT
>  I have an ancient dial-up connection and have moved forward to a
> broadband connection.  My old server had News Groups which I
> used all the time and accessed this group.
> With Hughes.Net, I do not have a news server and was looking for
> some suggestions.

Two methods that I use are............

http://www.fidotel.com/public/default.htm

http://groups.google.com
Clarence Crow - 24 Mar 2007 01:58 GMT
>Hello,
>    I have an ancient dial-up connection and have moved forward to a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>You know this News Group helped me be here to this day, and I sure want to
>keep posted.
My ISP's news server fell over so I've been using this one now for a
month or so...works well ;)

http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home

-Please reply to group as my email addr is fake!

-Regards CC
Heather - 24 Mar 2007 03:20 GMT
Thanks, Clarence.  I have been using Motzarella for a year and am quite
happy with it.  I was hunting around last night for the website but it
had changed.....and I don't speak much German, grin.  (no, it is not the
cheese).

Heather

>>Hello,
>>    I have an ancient dial-up connection and have moved forward to a
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> -Regards CC
J - 24 Mar 2007 08:29 GMT
> Hello,
>     I have an ancient dial-up connection and have moved forward to a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> John Loomis
> Prostate Cancer Survivor

John,
Others are using hughes.net so what are you saying? You picked a (hughes) plan
without "news" service?
(many ISP's carry "news", but some don't bother showing it on their webpage
nor tell the customer, unless asked).
Or you've not contacted them for the appropriate settings for your Outlook
Express?

If the former, you can purchase "news" service, from
https://secure.giganews.com/signup/ or www.individual.net/ (low cost annual
fee for the latter)
If the latter, contact hughes.net
J
John Loomis - 24 Mar 2007 18:05 GMT
Hey, Thanks,
I will check it out.
John
Low PSA's to all!

>> Hello,
>>     I have an ancient dial-up connection and have moved forward to a
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> If the latter, contact hughes.net
> J
Heather - 24 Mar 2007 18:24 GMT
>> With Hughes.Net, I do not have a news server and was looking for some
>> suggestions.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> If the latter, contact hughes.net
> J
AHA....you hit the nail on the head.  I will bet $100 Cdn that he never
thought to ask his ISP to set him up for newsgroups.  I find that a lot
of ISP's are both negligent in this......and a lot of ISP techies simply
don't know how to do it.  Guess it isn't in their training manual (G).

Thanks J.....I bet if he phones Hughes and demands someone higher up, he
will then get  news groups.

Don't know about your ISP, but both Rogers and Sympatico dropped Usenet
a year ago, which is why I use the freebie Motzarella.  Used to use the
German one (Individual.net) until they started charging.  It wasn't the
cost, it was the PITA way you had to get the money to them.  But they
are very good.

Cheers....H
J - 25 Mar 2007 10:31 GMT
> >> With Hughes.Net, I do not have a news server and was looking for some
> >> suggestions.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Cheers....H

I checked Heather through all groups and people are still posting with both.

comp.dcom.modems.cable was answering questions about cable modems and rogers
was mentioned in Sept.
And somebody recently advertising she wanted to buy a modem (and her email
was rogers)
I think there's a regular, on alt.support.cancer who uses sympatico.
He only posts every 3 or 4 months to update us that his wife is (knock wood)
still no recurrence).

Rogers has a FAQ here
<http://shoprogersfaq.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/shoprogersfaq.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.
php?p_sid=s6vkqEii&p_lva=&p_faqid=3849&p_created=1111692870&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9
ncmlkc29ydD0mcF9yb3dfY250PTImcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1CRUZDTVUxMCZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPTY
mcF9wcm9kX2x2bDE9fmFueX4mcF9wcm9kX2x2bDI9fmFueX4mcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQmcF9wYWdlPTE
*&p_li
=>

When I type in newsgroup in the Keyword Search - Category "Internet
Services", there's FAQ's about Usenet or Newsgroup.

Which are you on, Heather?
I'll try to research more later.
J
Heather - 25 Mar 2007 19:12 GMT
>> Don't know about your ISP, but both Rogers and Sympatico dropped
>> Usenet
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Which are you on, Heather?
> I'll try to research more later.

Thanks, but not needed, J.  If you type "usenet" into that same Keyword
Search instead of newsgroup, you get the following.....

http://snipurl.com/tqzb

We were emailed and told that Rogers would no longer support Usenet as
of Dec. 15, 2005.  I switched to Bell Sympatico 2 months later because
they assured me they would not drop it.  They DID....3 months later.

So I went back to Rogers where the service is incredibly better and got
some of my techie online friends to suggest a good free ng.

FWIW, I just switched my land line to Rogers Home Phone an hour ago.  My
daughter lives in BC and she has Rogers Home Phone and also we both use
Rogers Wireless.

Result??  No more long distance charges between our land lines or
wireless phones.....YAHOO!!  Wonder how long that will last, grin.

And finally, I downloaded "Skype" and have been talking to friends in
Australia, Canada, Costa Rica and England for free.  You just need a
mike or headset.  I am quite pleased with it.

Cheers....Heather (Ontario)

PS.....Just got notified that Motzarella is going to terminate my
participation because I haven't used it in 150 days????  I use it every
day.  Idiots!!
Heather - 25 Mar 2007 19:35 GMT
> PS.....Just got notified that Motzarella is going to terminate my
> participation because I haven't used it in 150 days????  I use it
> every day.  Idiots!!

Sorted out immediately!!  Glitch in the system and Wolf of Motzarella
wrote me right away to say "don't worry".
J - 26 Mar 2007 00:00 GMT
> >> Don't know about your ISP, but both Rogers and Sympatico dropped
> >> Usenet
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://snipurl.com/tqzb

Groan. I mised that.  But thanks I found something (else) there that might be useful to me.

And here's a free way of accessing support newsgroups
http://talkaboutsupport.com/group/alt.support.cancer.prostate/
Provides a bird's eye view of topics and archives and it munges email addresses as well.
J
I.P. Freely - 26 Mar 2007 00:36 GMT
I've been amazed several times when ISP personnel have asked me why I
want newsgroup access . . . what I do with them . . . what good they
are. They've never used them, and don't know why anyone else would.

You'd think that from, what . . . a million? . . . forums, these people
would find *something* that really interested them besides, I guess,
video games.

I.P.
Heather - 26 Mar 2007 00:42 GMT
I have had about 4 or 5 ISP's......and only one of them knew much about
news groups.  It is really weird!!  2 of them are the biggest in Canada
and they still don't ever suggest using them.

They are always quite surprised when I ask them to help me set them up.
Every darn ISP has told me that only about 10-20% of their customers use
them.  DUH!!

With this freebie one, I had to set it up myself, which was a tad
aggravating, but I managed.

Heather

> I've been amazed several times when ISP personnel have asked me why I
> want newsgroup access . . . what I do with them . . . what good they
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I.P.
Heather - 26 Mar 2007 00:46 GMT
>> >> Don't know about your ISP, but both Rogers and Sympatico dropped
>> >> Usenet
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Groan. I mised that.  But thanks I found something (else) there that
> might be useful to me.

LOL!!  I remembered both Rogers and Sympatico referring to it as
"Usenet".....but glad you found something else there.  Where is the
below website from?  I have never seen that one before.  Must play with
it but the ads might drive me nuts!!

Thanks.....H

> And here's a free way of accessing support newsgroups
> http://talkaboutsupport.com/group/alt.support.cancer.prostate/
> Provides a bird's eye view of topics and archives and it munges email
> addresses as well.
> J
J - 26 Mar 2007 00:51 GMT
> "J" <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> > Provides a bird's eye view of topics and archives and it munges email
> > addresses as well.

True about the ads, but there's nothing on the right side (like Google
has).
I've got a small monitor so all the text is squished into small boxes that
I haven't quite figured out how to enlarge, some sometimes enlarge
themselves and i don't know what I clicked.

To answer your question, we because aware of them archiving newsgroup posts
and then a patient showed up using them and from there it's history. If
someone asks I give them this option.
However, I think it's only "support" newsgroups and they probably can't
crosspost, which to me is a (usually) good thing :)
J
 
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