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3Putt from South Carolina - 05 Feb 2007 21:31 GMT
"SE"?  Lot's of brevity that I can research and find the meanings for, but I
can't expand this one.  Help?
Steve Jordan - 05 Feb 2007 22:00 GMT
On February 5, 3Putt wrote:

> "SE"?  Lot's of brevity that I can research and find the meanings for, but I
> can't expand this one.  Help?

Apologies.

SE = side effect.

Plural = SEs

Regards,

Steve J
James - 06 Feb 2007 02:14 GMT
> Apologies.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Steve J

People on this newsgroup love to use acronyms and medical slang just like
the doctors they spend so much time talking to. Pretty soon their
handwriting will go to hell also.
I.P. Freely - 06 Feb 2007 02:57 GMT
> People on this newsgroup love to use acronyms and medical slang just like
> the doctors they spend so much time talking to.

Most of us try to spell them out when typing to newbies, but, frankly
(uh, that would be me), I don't think anyone who doesn't know most of
the jargon and the acronyms (I agree that expecting a patient to
understand Bayesian statistical jargon is over the top) hasn't done
enough research to make any PC treatment decisions. Maybe we should make
up a quiz to decide who's ready. ;-)

And, no, I think a glossary of acronyms and jargon would make it too
easy, sort of like eliminating spelling and arithmetic from school
because we have Spell Check and calculators now.

> Pretty soon their handwriting will go to hell also.

Mine has declined noticeably sine I sat down here 15 years ago.

I.P.
chasjac - 06 Feb 2007 17:22 GMT
[snip]
> People on this newsgroup love to use acronyms and medical slang just like
> the doctors they spend so much time talking to. Pretty soon their
> handwriting will go to hell also.

The computer has completely destroyed my handwriting, but that started
long before I joined this group.

I started using PowerPoints in my lectures about four years ago, much
to the relief of my students.  I cannot even read my own scrawl now.

I find that I have to ponder some of the postings here before I can
make sense of them, but that seems to happen in most of the newsgroups
I watch.

At my college, there is an abundance of verbal shorthand used in
discussion of campus matters, much of which would be obscure to a
newcomer.  It just seems that such things are inevitable.  The nice
thing about doing this on the internet  is that you can usually dig a
little bit and find out what an acronym means when the message context
fails to help you.

--charlie
I.P. Freely - 06 Feb 2007 18:52 GMT
>  you can usually dig a
> little bit and find out what an acronym means

And that digging reveals more information and often even questions we
hadn't thought to ask. It's part of the learning process and one
indicator among many that we're becoming conversant in a topic which
will affect the rest of our life.

I.P.
Clarence Crow - 06 Feb 2007 21:32 GMT
>> Apologies.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>the doctors they spend so much time talking to. Pretty soon their
>handwriting will go to hell also.

-Please reply to group as my email addr is fake!

-Regards CC
Clarence Crow - 06 Feb 2007 21:37 GMT
<snip SJ's post>

>People on this newsgroup love to use acronyms and medical slang just like
>the doctors they spend so much time talking to. Pretty soon their
>handwriting will go to hell also.

My family Doc (GP or PCP) always asks me if I've been playing on the
'Net' again and did it fix my 'pisser'?

They don't warm to smart-a.s patients spouting their ritual jargon LOL

-Please reply to group as my email addr is fake!

-Regards CC
I.P. Freely - 06 Feb 2007 21:53 GMT
> My family Doc (GP or PCP) always asks me if I've been playing on the
> 'Net' again and did it fix my 'pisser'?
>
> They don't warm to smart-a.s patients spouting their ritual jargon LOL

Or to information off the Net, regardless of the source.

But they do have a point, considering the genuine flaws our more
edjumicated (screw ya, SpellChecker) members find in many peer-reviewed
studies. Many times I've asked my oncs about specific published studies,
only to have them point out serious flaws in the studies or explain how
they don't apply to my case.

I.P.
Steve Kramer - 05 Feb 2007 22:52 GMT
> "SE"?  Lot's of brevity that I can research and find the meanings for, but
> I can't expand this one.  Help?

SE = Side Effect
callalily - 06 Feb 2007 00:08 GMT
Dear Putt,

On Feb 5, 4:31�pm, "3Putt from South Carolina" <3putt@secoastofsc>
wrote:
> "SE"? Lot's of brevity that I can research and find the meanings for, but I
> can't expand this one. Help?

SE gave me a whole lot of trouble so I can empathize.  I am starting
to think that there is value in this -- every time you try to figure
out some code, you are giving your brain a good workout.  Hopefully.
The other day I struggled with this:

"My DH had an RP".

And I'm thinking, "designated hitter"??  What else can that possible
mean?

Then, after some time, it just came to me: "Dear Husband".  I had
encountered it before.

Here is a resource from the Nat'l PC Coalition,
fightprostatecancer.org.  You can link to these sites from there.

Glossaries and Dictionaries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Phoenix 5 Internet Prostate Cancer Glossary

ProstatePointers.org: Prostate cancer acronyms and abbreviations

Leah
safire - 06 Feb 2007 00:24 GMT
CU Medical Guide says that 60 to 90% of patients undergoing RP suffer
from ED. It notes that the nerves involved may heal, though very slowly.
Recovery may take up to two years and is unusual before 3 months after
surgery. CU also cites a British study that says regularly doing Kegel
exercises generally helps against ED; that report does not specifically
address ED caused by RP.

http://adam.about.com/reports/000033_10.htm

This source says that sexual impairment (i.e. impotency) risk is only
10% better if both nerves are spared and 7% if one nerve is spared (66%
if no nerve spared, 59% unilateral, 56% bilateral). Medicine is not
supposed to help in case both nerves are not spared for patients over 55.

http://www.henryfordhealth.org/body.cfm?id=46058

Dr. Menon, on the other hand, claims that 82% of his institute's
patients 60 years of age had return of sexual function at six months.
Not sure whether he is much better at sparing nerves than others, but
the Adam numbers suggest that that by itself doesn't make that much of a
difference.

The Adam report puzzles me. Are the nerves not essential? Can you, at
least in theory, recover even if both nerves are not spared?
If so, does doing Kegels (presumambly to stimulate blood flow) speed up
recovery? Is Viagra or Cialis potentially helpful if at least one nerve
is spared, as in my case?
colophony - 06 Feb 2007 17:11 GMT
I found very helpful  use google when you meet in this group an acronym. I
did find it very useful when I  joyned the group almost a year ago.
Colophony
> "SE"?  Lot's of brevity that I can research and find the meanings for, but
> I can't expand this one.  Help?
 
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