Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / January 2007
Broccoli-Tomato Cocktail Goes Head-to-Head with Best Std. Therapies
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callalily - 24 Jan 2007 23:52 GMT Worried about prostate cancer? Tomato-broccoli combo shown to be effective
Shrinking Prostate Cancer A new University of Illinois study shows that tomatoes and broccoli - two vegetables known for their cancer-fighting qualities - are better at shrinking prostate tumors when both are part of the daily diet than when they're eaten alone.
"When tomatoes and broccoli are eaten together, we see an additive effect. We think it's because different bioactive compounds in each food work on different anti-cancer pathways," said University of Illinois food science and human nutrition professor John Erdman.
In a study published in the January 15 issue of Cancer Research, Erdman and doctoral candidate Kirstie Canene-Adams fed a diet containing 10 percent tomato powder and 10 percent broccoli powder to laboratory rats that had been implanted with prostate cancer cells. The powders were made from whole foods so the effects of eating the entire vegetable could be compared with consuming individual parts of them as a nutritional supplement.
Other rats in the study received either tomato or broccoli powder alone; or a supplemental dose of lycopene, the red pigment in tomatoes thought to be the effective cancer-preventive agent in tomatoes; or finasteride, a drug prescribed for men with enlarged prostates. Another group of rats was castrated.
After 22 weeks, the tumors were weighed. The tomato/broccoli combo outperformed all other diets in shrinking prostate tumors. Biopsies of tumors were evaluated at The Ohio State University, confirming that tumor cells in the tomato/broccoli-fed rats were not proliferating as rapidly. The only treatment that approached the tomato/broccoli diet's level of effectiveness was castration, said Erdman.
"As nutritionists, it was very exciting to compare this drastic surgery to diet and see that tumor reduction was similar. Older men with slow-growing prostate cancer who have chosen watchful waiting over chemotherapy and radiation should seriously consider altering their diets to include more tomatoes and broccoli," said Canene-Adams.
How much tomato and broccoli should a 55-year-old man concerned about prostate health eat in order to receive these benefits? The scientists did some conversions.
"To get these effects, men should consume daily 1.4 cups of raw broccoli and 2.5 cups of fresh tomato, or 1 cup of tomato sauce, or Ѕ cup of tomato paste. I think it's very doable for a man to eat a cup and a half of broccoli per day or put broccoli on a pizza with Ѕ cup of tomato paste," said Canene-Adams.
Erdman said the study showed that eating whole foods is better than consuming their components. "It's better to eat tomatoes than to take a lycopene supplement," he said. "And cooked tomatoes may be better than raw tomatoes. Chopping and heating make the cancer-fighting constituents of tomatoes and broccoli more bioavailable."
"When tomatoes are cooked, for example, the water is removed and the healthful parts become more concentrated. That doesn't mean you should stay away from fresh produce. The lesson here, I think, is to eat a variety of fruits and vegetables prepared in a variety of ways," Canene-Adams added.
Another recent Erdman study shows that rats fed the tomato carotenoids phytofluene, lycopene, or a diet containing 10 percent tomato powder for four days had significantly reduced testosterone levels. "Most prostate cancer is hormone-sensitive, and reducing testosterone levels may be another way that eating tomatoes reduces prostate cancer growth," Erdman said.
Erdman said the tomato/broccoli study was a natural to be carried out at Illinois because of the pioneering work his colleague Elizabeth Jeffery has done on the cancer-fighting agents found in broccoli and other cruciferous vegetables. Jeffery has discovered sulfur compounds in broccoli that enhance certain enzymes in the human body, which then act to degrade carcinogens.
"For ten years, I've been learning how the phytochemicals in tomatoes affect the progression of prostate cancer. Meanwhile Dr. Jeffery has been investigating the ways in which the healthful effects of broccoli are produced. Teaming up to see how these vegetables worked together just made sense and certainly contributes to our knowledge about dietary treatments for prostate cancer," said Erdman.
jeff_B - 26 Jan 2007 16:08 GMT > Worried aboutprostatecancer? Tomato-broccoli combo shown to be > effective [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > just made sense and certainly contributes to our knowledge about > dietary treatments forprostatecancer," said Erdman. I'v been taking 1/3 cup dryroasted peanuts (unsalted and based on 165 lbs of body weight) 2 hours before bedtime for 3 months with dramatic (almost immediate) results....no waking up for bladder runs, no disrupted flow in am. When I have on occassion forgotten to take the nuts, the old pattern returned immediately.....(I've adjusted the 180 calories within my regular diet of food, it's well worth giving up something else for uninterupted sleep) Something in the peanuts is affecting the prostate!!
3Putt from South Carolina - 26 Jan 2007 23:30 GMT On Jan 24, 6:52 pm, "callalily" <lfc...@aol.com> wrote:
> Worried aboutprostatecancer? Tomato-broccoli combo shown to be > effective [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > just made sense and certainly contributes to our knowledge about > dietary treatments forprostatecancer," said Erdman. The tomato theory has been around for years. I use to eat one 8oz can of diced tomato 3-4 times weekly. I took saw palmetto for years. I believe I read a similar item that said just tomato alone daily would shrink the prostate 40%. It's just hard to fathom, digest, or whatever. Seems new articles come out weekly now. But are the urologists just slow to react to this information? I don't know if another 10 year study will do most of us much good. but right now, I'd give anything for shrinkage in my prostate.
callalily - 27 Jan 2007 01:23 GMT Dear Putt,
On Jan 26, 6:30pm, "3Putt from South Carolina" <3putt@secoastofsc> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 6:52 pm, "callalily" <lfc...@aol.com> wrote: > >It's almost comical when you say that "most uros" are slow to "react to the situation". I don't know any uros who "react" at all when it comes to nutrition. Wouldn't it be nice if a uro told a pc patient upon diagnosis, "you know, it wouldn't hurt if you ate some tomato sauce". And broccoli.. . . As a matter of fact, I ordered my husband a Prostate supplement, and it says to take it only under the supervision of a doctor. Well, which doctor do they have in mind? His surgeon, no. His internist, no. The truth is there aren't many doctors who have the time or will to deal with this subject.
I want to ask: I got some "broccoli sprouts" pills that I had ordered and I am concerned because along with the sprout extract they have 488 mgs of calcium. I guess I didn't read the fine print. I know you will say, "Eat the real thing" and we are working on that, too. Well, is this a deadly mixture and will I have to end up ingesting it?? I ordered 2 bottles...
*** I had to move the cursor 4 ways just to write this message, i.e, scroll horizontally and vertically the whole time. I think Google has really debased itself. Like today, I typed in "googlegroups", which usually brings up my NG, but instead I got a list of "favored sites" and it was all advertisements.
O.T.: If swimming is so good for fitness, how do you account for whales??
I.P. Freely - 27 Jan 2007 04:20 GMT > I am concerned because along with the sprout extract they have 488 > mgs of calcium. According to Duke U's summary of the latest NIH-AARP Diet & Health Study, calcium does not increase the risk of PC and discourages other cancers.
I.P.
JohnHace - 27 Jan 2007 16:02 GMT On Jan 26, 11:20 pm, "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddabou...@noway.nohow> wrote:
>According to Duke U's summary of the latest NIH-AARP Diet & Health > Study, calcium does not increase the risk of PC and discourages other > cancers. It was my understanding that the problem with excess calcium was it consumes or nullifies the benefits of Vitamin D. I think I read that should increase your Vitamin D supplementation with any increase in calcium.
John
callalily - 27 Jan 2007 16:22 GMT On Jan 26, 11:20�pm, "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddabou...@noway.nohow> wrote:
> > I am concerned because along with the sprout extract they have 488 > > mgs of calcium. According to Duke U's summary of the latest NIH-AARP Diet & Health > Study, calcium does not increase the risk of PC and discourages other > cancers. > > I.P. Yeah. But what if you already have the Beast?
I.P. Freely - 27 Jan 2007 04:14 GMT > are the urologists just slow to react to this information? They -- rightfully -- wait for peer-reviewed, large-scale, double-blind, proof. Otherwise they and their patients would get jerked around like rag dolls by every new rumor, claim, biomedically logical idea, poorly-designed study, and/or outright faked study.
I.P.
callalily - 27 Jan 2007 16:20 GMT Dear All,
On Jan 26, 11:15?pm, "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddabou...@noway.nohow> wrote:
> > are the urologists just slow to react to this information?They -- rightfully -- wait for peer-reviewed, large-scale, double-blind, > proof. Otherwise they and their patients would get jerked around like > rag dolls by every new rumor, claim, biomedically logical idea, > poorly-designed study, and/or outright faked study. > > I.P. As I've said before, I can assure you that if your uro had pca, she would be putting tomato sauce in his coffee and eating broccoli w/pom sauce. You know that.
Nobody ever died from eating tomato sauce, as far as I know, and it's not a burden for most people to include it in their diet.
Why do you think the PC Foundation and many others recommend eating certain foods. Even if they haven't met the stringent requirements for scientific studies, they are **very suggestive** that certain nutrients can help with PCa.
Leah
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