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NICK - 30 Dec 2006 03:05 GMT
N.C. Woman Accused of Grabbing Man's 38-Year-Old Genitals During Fight
at a Christmas Party
December 29, 2006                     15:04

LILLINGTON, N.C. --  A woman attacked a man in his genitals during a
Christmas party, injuring him badly enough that he needed 50 stitches,
authorities said Friday. Rebecca Arnold Dawson, 34, was charged with
malicious castration in a fight early Tuesday at a party hosted by the
38-year-old man's girlfriend, police said.

All three were heavily intoxicated, police Chief Frank Powers said.

Dawson is accused of grabbing the man's genitals. Police said a weapon
was not used. He declined to elaborate.

"I believe he needed more than 50 stitches to repair the damage, but he
is back home at this point," police Cpl. Brad Stevens said. "All we can
tell you is that the injury was done with her hands."

Dawson does not have a listed phone number.

State law describes malicious castration as cutting off, maiming or
disfiguring a person's genitals with the intent to hurt or render the
victim impotent.

Dawson, who was released Wednesday on $50,000 bond, also was charged
with offenses including assault causing serious bodily injury.

The castration arrest was the first of its kind in Lillington, a town
of about 3,000 roughly 30 miles south of Raleigh, Powers said.
Tom Cular - 30 Dec 2006 11:35 GMT
> N.C. Woman Accused of Grabbing Man's 38-Year-Old Genitals During Fight
> at a Christmas Party
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> The castration arrest was the first of its kind in Lillington, a town
> of about 3,000 roughly 30 miles south of Raleigh, Powers said.

Cut that womans nails!!

Tom
Beverley - 01 Jan 2007 03:31 GMT
*** Dawson, who was released Wednesday on $50,000 bond, also was charged
with offenses including assault causing serious bodily injury.***

So why do rapists get off on less charges? There is still a double standard
in our still mostly male system.
Bev

> N.C. Woman Accused of Grabbing Man's 38-Year-Old Genitals During Fight
> at a Christmas Party
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> The castration arrest was the first of its kind in Lillington, a town
> of about 3,000 roughly 30 miles south of Raleigh, Powers said.
Unquestionably Confused - 01 Jan 2007 15:12 GMT
> *** Dawson, who was released Wednesday on $50,000 bond, also was charged
>  with offenses including assault causing serious bodily injury.***
>
> So why do rapists get off on less charges? There is still a double standard
> in our still mostly male system.

Your argument is a bit premature, Beverley.  Dawson has merely been
charged at this point and is free on bond.  Wait until the dust settles
and the case is properly adjudicated in court before raising the double
standard claim.

Police and prosecutors typically will charge according to the initial
reports and then allow any mitigating or aggravating factors which
subsequently become evident to guide the course of the case through the
courts.

Not saying that rapists are properly punished in all cases but what
would you say of this case if the end result was that Dawson winds up
pleading to a lesser offense?  Would it be a double standard?  Would it
make a difference if subsequent investigation made it clear that her
"victim" precipitated the assault by attempting to insert a champagne
flute up her, ah, er, privates?

Point is, you can't Monday morning quarterback these things until Monday
morning - if then!  It's only Thursday in this case<g>

Bev

>> N.C. Woman Accused of Grabbing Man's 38-Year-Old Genitals During Fight
>> at a Christmas Party
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>> The castration arrest was the first of its kind in Lillington, a town
>> of about 3,000 roughly 30 miles south of Raleigh, Powers said.
Beverley - 02 Jan 2007 01:32 GMT
I can tell you of several recent cases in our local newspaper.  One was run
right before Xmas and the court dismissed charges but for weeks leading up
to the court case they made it out that this guy was a monster. The guy was
being held for repetitive sexual assault and rape of a minor starting when
the girl was 13 which apparently continued for years. Sounds like a really
bad guy, right? Now the girl is something like seventeen and pregnant as a
result of this continued assault. The guy is 21. That means this started
when he was 16 and she was 13. All the young girl wants to do is marry him
and somebody in her family decided to put an end to their relationship. Okay
I agree they should not have been messing around but I wouldn't call that
rape either.

(I also have a 19 yo step-grandson who is about to be a father in Feb. So
yes, that will make me a step-great-grandmother and it will make my 32 yo
daughter a grandmother LOL  but all joking aside his girlfriend, excuse me,
his fiancée is only 16. I call that stupidity especially when my daughter
took her to get the pill so that she didn't get pregnant when my daughter
found out they were "involved" but the kid can't remember to take her pill?
How the heck is she going to be a mother?)

(BTW, I was 17 when I met my husband. He was 24. I was working full time,
living on my own, and in my first year at a local college. OMG, he was
handsome, sexy, intelligent, and he already served his country. He had a
tight little a.s, broad shoulders, and the muscles that would make any
female swoon. And he could kiss! Okay that's enough information but it's not
rape!)

There was a case this past summer of a husband and wife arguing in the
street (okay, sane married people do not stand in the street and
argue/fight) for quite a while. He threatened her (somehow) and she ripped
his balls off. She's been sent away for about 20 years over it.

Yet another guy (in his early 30's) got nailed for indecent liberties and
sodomy with two minors (I can't remember the boys ages exactly their ages
but I'll say they were 8 & 10 or maybe they were 7 & 8) He got about 12
years.

Then we've got another one that just went through the courts here and he was
charged with rape and sexual assault of a minor (she's something like 10)
and he's a known predator and they gave him about a 12 yr sentence.

Actually I think Maria Bobbit got shafted big time. Her mistake was she
should have run it through the garbage disposal. Time proved her right but
the courts destroyed her.

Yes, every case needs to be studied carefully. Most of the time they do
plead to a lesser offense. And if you really want to get into it, I can
point out lots of inequities that seem to be almost constant.
Bev

> > *** Dawson, who was released Wednesday on $50,000 bond, also was charged
> >  with offenses including assault causing serious bodily injury.***
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> >> The castration arrest was the first of its kind in Lillington, a town
> >> of about 3,000 roughly 30 miles south of Raleigh, Powers said.
I.P. Freely - 02 Jan 2007 01:55 GMT
Man rapes and beats a girl constantly for four years beginning at age 6.
Vermont judge gives the rapist 60 days in jail because he doesn't
believe in punishing criminals. Vermont backs up the judge. Even after
one man made it his personal project to raise hell worldwide, the
sentence was extended only to three years, not the slow dismemberment
the rapist deserved. Worse yet, a significant minority of our country
backs up the judge's point of view.

I.P.
Beverley - 03 Jan 2007 03:08 GMT
I'm beginning to think that the significant minority is becoming a rapidly
growing majority. And that those who know better refuse to stand up - which
is how Hitler gained power.
Bev

> Man rapes and beats a girl constantly for four years beginning at age 6.
> Vermont judge gives the rapist 60 days in jail because he doesn't
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I.P.
callalily - 02 Jan 2007 03:45 GMT
Dear Bev,

This post was really fun!

> BTW, I was 17 when I met my husband. He was 24. I was working full time,
> living on my own, and in my first year at a local college. OMG, he was
> handsome, sexy, intelligent, and he already served his country.

There's nothing sexier than a man in uniform.  My favorite family photo
is of Ted's grandpa in his doughboy uniform. He was shipped out to
France but thankfully didn't see much more than the Eiffel Tower.
[(BTW, there is a hilarious movie starring Eddie Bracken called "Hail
the Conquering Hero" (4 1/2 stars)  that was made partly as propaganda
during WWII.  In the movie, the guy is too scrawny and is rejected by
the army and he is so ashamed he doesn't want to show his face in
society . . . and worst of all he can't get a girl!  So in desperation
he goes into the attic and dusts off his grandpa's WWI uniform and goes
on a date wearing it and the result is ROFL funny)]

>>He had a tight little a.s, broad shoulders, and the muscles that
would make any
>> female swoon. And he could kiss!

I already knew George was beautiful on the inside but lucky for you his
exterior matches his interior. :-)

I hesitate to say the following because the blue ribbons will complain
that I am treating men like so many pieces of meat but there is a
serious purpose in it.

The other day I was looking at the website of one of the pca orgs and
saw that one of its sponsors is a company called 2(x)ist.  They make
"cutting edge" underwear for men according to their website (hope they
don't mean that literally).

I had found out about this brand because around the time of J's surgery
I was in Filene's shopping for undies for him and I came upon these
"boxer briefs" and I thought they might work for him.  I love regular
boxer shorts bec. dear old dad wore them but spouse  won't put them on
so I thought this was a suitable compromise.  He thought they were
comfy and they looked really good.  They were more expensive than
fruit-of-the-loom or hanes but they were of a much better quality.

Anyway, I am just bowled over by the thought that you can support pca
research just by wearing underwear!!  That brand, of course. I followed
the link to the company's website and  watched a "fashion show" of
their "collection" and I must tell you that I am not into this sort of
thing at all but I had never before seen such a display of male
pulchritude. Abs, gluts, pecs, lats, biceps, triceps, hamstrings, you
name it. My temp. shot up to around 108.  And the underwear was
great-looking too.

I once read that you can give a man a "heterosexuality test" by placing
a Victoria's Secret catalog in front of him and seeing how he reacts.
(J. failed miserably; he wouldn't put down the Economist).  Anyway if
you are a lady and want to test your heterosexuality (or a man who
wants to test your homosexuality) take a tour of 2exist.com.  You will
end up wondering why they call women the fair sex -- I think they got
it a-- backwards.

Seriously, I would encourage men to buy 2xist underwear because when
you do so you are contributing to the cause.  I know I will stock up.

On another topic: Of course there is always a double standard when it
comes to women.  When Mary and I had a little tiff (once) it was called
a "feral" catfight.  But IP and SJ lock horns regularly and nobody
seems bothered by it.  I guess co-kfights are allowed here and maybe we
should sell tickets and give the proceeds to charity.

Hugs,

Leah
NICK - 03 Jan 2007 01:11 GMT
Leah wrote:

>  ... take a tour of 2exist.com.

Appears to have been hijacked by a web designer.
chasjac - 03 Jan 2007 01:56 GMT
> Leah wrote:
>
> >  ... take a tour of 2exist.com.
>
>  Appears to have been hijacked by a web designer.

I think it's this one:

http://www.2xist.com/

--charlie
callalily - 03 Jan 2007 02:04 GMT
Dear Chasjac,

Thank you so much for the correction.  Enjoy the tour!  (And ladies,
this is your "Victoria's Secret" :-))

> I think it's this one:
>
> http://www.2xist.com/
>
> --charlie
Beverley - 03 Jan 2007 03:03 GMT
Okay, I just had to check it out. LOL I think I'm getting old. Those boys
are younger than my daughters. Which bring to mind the fact that many years
ago I had a friend who was having her birthday and several of her friends
decided they were taking her "out" and I didn't want to go because this
place was the equivalent to a "gentlemen's club" but for the ladies. Of
course I get harassed for being a party-pooper, etc, so I give in and say
that I'm going. So the night before we are to go I run into another friend's
son in the mall. Now this friend is very deeply religious and very active in
her church. The kind of person that three children's photos on her
refrigerator of children that they have adopted in foreign countries through
their church's missionary program. Needless to say her kids were brats -
kind of like the normal PK's (preacher's kids). Her oldest son goes off to
college and this is the boy, ahem, young man that I ran into in the mall. So
I naturally ask him what he's doing these days. He tells me he's dancing at
this club. OMG! I've changed this boy's diapers do you think I want to go
watch HIM dance?????????
Long story short, I went. My friend's son did not dance that night. I
thought I'd die the entire night. I swear that two of the guys were gay, the
other's didn't look old enough to even be 21 (state law). The guys all had
oiled their bodies (I could actually smell the olive oil on the "Italian
Stallion" who was about as Italian as Joe Smith) and the flashing lights did
nothing but drive me nuts because I can't handle the strobe stuff. And I'm
watching a bunch of female friends get all excited about giving dollar bills
to these guys so that they would wiggle their covered parts. The drinks are
about $10 a piece and half of us have to drive home so I didn't dare drink
more than one because I don't want a DUI and who can afford to drink at
those prices? And I'm thinking we could have all stayed home and had our
husbands give us private shows and gotten a whole lot more out of it and it
wouldn't have a cost a penny. I'm a party pooper!
Bev (I don't want to see a bunch of kids I want to see a man with a little
gray hair. LOL I like that sexy guy that did the cholesterol Rx commercial
that belly flopped in the pool - was that you in the commercial IP?)

> Dear Chasjac,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> >
> > --charlie
callalily - 03 Jan 2007 16:54 GMT
Hi Bev--

> Okay, I just had to check it out. LOL I think I'm getting old. Those boys
> are younger than my daughters. Which bring to mind the fact that many years
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> course I get harassed for being a party-pooper, etc, so I give in and say
> that I'm going.

In real life you couldn't drag me to a place like that.  I don't think
I've ever been on an "adult" website.  You know, I 've read that men
are more into the '"visual" stuff.

So the night before we are to go I run into another friend's
> son in the mall. Now this friend is very deeply religious and very active in
> her church. . Her oldest son goes off to> college and this is the boy, ahem, young man that I ran into in the mall. So> I naturally ask him what he's doing these days. He tells me he's dancing at> this club. OMG! I've changed this boy's diapers do you think I want to go
> watch HIM dance?????????

LOL.  Maybe he majored in Human Sexuality.  I took one of those courses
in college and all I remember is them putting a condom on a cucumber.
I took that course pass/fail because I was worried that I might flunk.

> Long story short, I went. My friend's son did not dance that night. I
> thought I'd die the entire night. I swear that two of the guys were gay, the
> other's didn't look old enough to even be 21 (state law). The guys all had
> oiled their bodies (I could actually smell the olive oil on the "Italian
> Stallion" who was about as Italian as Joe Smith)

I feel for you. You know I went back to the 2xist site bec. I was
curious about their connection to pca.  I looked a bit more closely.  A
lot of their models look like they've been dunked in a vat of oil, are
anorexic and have a tree trunk stuck in their pants -- I mean in their
trunks.  So this fashion show is not for everybody.  (My husband's pet
peeve is seeing calvin klein underwear billboards everywhere; he thinks
they're obscene.) And I don't want to encourage men to copy that look.
But this company also makes plain-vanilla briefs, 3 for $10, which JJ
buys, and I'm happy to support pca-friendly companies.

> (I don't want to see a bunch of kids I want to see a man with a little
> gray hair.

Yes, I suppose you can have gray hair and still be eye candy.  Best
part is you would also have something to talk about.

>LOL I like that sexy guy that did the cholesterol Rx commercial
> that belly flopped in the pool - was that you in the commercial IP?)

What drug was it?

Hugs,

Leah
Beverley - 03 Jan 2007 21:38 GMT
That tree trunk look in their briefs is because they often wear cups. Cups
smooth out the natural "curves" yet tends to add dimension which provides
that huge "lump". It's about the same as a female wearing tape to lift and
add cleavage AND they wear tape over their nipples to prevent the little
points. (It also hides the difference in color in the more see-thru bras) So
obviously someone decided that seeing true anatomical features was not what
the public wanted.

Seriously, they are not going to do an underwear shoot of a guy with an
erection and somehow that little flaccid curved lump does nothing to show
off those briefs in the best possible light. In fact, that natural curve and
the normal "wad" that hangs below would play havoc with shadows if they
photograph a natural male. So the guys wear cups. They used to be sturdy
foam things but I think today some are wearing something a little less
concealing. They may have even gone to moleskin which is what many female
models used to use for bra shoots.

Damn, I know I just took all the fun out of it. LOL

Oh, and the other thing that has now become to popular is to have the men
wax their body of all hair to show off those pecs, abs, etc. Okay, maybe if
they are Olympic swimmers and the hair actually slows down their movement
through the water they should consider removing it. (Or maybe if they model
underwear) But give me a break, aside from a few men that have so much hair
that it hangs in little tuffs over their shoulders, covers their back and
buttocks in a thick mass, most men have a normal amount of hair. It's part
of the natural passage into manhood. Most women appreciate a little hair on
their men.
:-)
Bev

I looked a bit more closely.  A
> lot of their models look like they've been dunked in a vat of oil, are
> anorexic and have a tree trunk stuck in their pants -- I mean in their
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> But this company also makes plain-vanilla briefs, 3 for $10, which JJ
> buys, and I'm happy to support pca-friendly companies.
chasjac - 04 Jan 2007 01:25 GMT
> That tree trunk look in their briefs is because they often wear cups.

The first thing I thought of when I looked at the ads was my
super-absorbent Depends.  When I put my briefs on over them, I get a
bulge, too!

Y'know, if you took away my flabby belly, pasty (and un-oiled) skin,
grey ponytail, poor muscle tone, and varicose veins ...

--charlie
Mary Fisher - 04 Jan 2007 12:31 GMT
>> That tree trunk look in their briefs is because they often wear cups.

?

> The first thing I thought of when I looked at the ads was my
> super-absorbent Depends.  When I put my briefs on over them, I get a
> bulge, too!

Because of this I looked, the bulge was the only part of their bodies which
looked normal.

> Y'know, if you took away my flabby belly, pasty (and un-oiled) skin,
> grey ponytail, poor muscle tone, and varicose veins ...
>
> --charlie

What you doing at the weekend, Charlie? Fancy dinner?

Mary
Mary Fisher - 04 Jan 2007 12:30 GMT
> Oh, and the other thing that has now become to popular is to have the men
> wax their body of all hair to show off those pecs, abs, etc. Okay, maybe
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> :-)
> Bev

I can't see the point in shaving or waxing whether you're a man or a woman.
It's daft.

The last (and only) time I shaved was a leg on my wedding day. My
bridesmaids needed to get into the bathroom and then it was time for me to
leave so I never finished the job.

Do you know? No-one looked at my legs! And nothing shows on the photographs.

Mary
callalily - 04 Jan 2007 15:23 GMT
Dear Bev,

> That tree trunk look in their briefs is because they often wear cups. Cups
> smooth out the natural "curves" yet tends to add dimension which provides
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> concealing. They may have even gone to moleskin which is what many female
> models used to use for bra shoots.

Bev, cups?? How do you happen to have such an encyclopedic knowledge of
this subject? Are you a costumer, fashion photographer or maybe's
George is a model??

> Oh, and the other thing that has now become to popular is to have the men
> wax their body of all hair to show off those pecs, abs, etc. Okay, maybe if
> they are Olympic swimmers and the hair actually slows down their movement
> through the water they should consider removing it.

Bev, that's what we in NY call "metrosexuals".  That means men who are
basically straight but get facials and have themselves tweezed, waxed
and botoxed.  And their numbers are growing . .. You know, it's funny
but we had a 15-yr. old French student stay with us for a summer and it
was amusing to see that he arrived with this little "suitcase" of
"L'Oreal for Men" products. Not just shampoo and body lotion, but face
creams and all that (and he was straight).  It upset me when J. and I
were married, I wanted him to try an old BF's cologne, and he said he
wasn't going to where any perfume.  No way.

One more thing.  I have a friend who likes motorcycles and we heard
there was going to be an exhibit of Vintage Harley's in Bloomingdales.
First, I had never heard of anything like that before in a dep't store,
but I was even more surprised when we arrived to see that the display
was set up right in the middle of the "fragrances" dep't??  You know, I
would have expected it to be in Sports or Men's Underwear.

As it turned out, the collector of the Harleys (name: Kook or
something) turned out to be in the perfume business and they were
trying to push a line of "men's" fragrances and cosmetics.

But give me a break, aside from a few men that have so much hair that
it hangs in little tuffs over their shoulders, covers their back and
buttocks in a thick mass, most men have a normal amount of hair. It's
part of the natural passage into manhood.

Yes, a smathering of hair on the chest is nice.  But I don't care for
the "ape" look.  (A lot of men, BTW, are getting their unwanted body
hair "lasered off".)

Most women appreciate a little hair on their men.
> :-)
> Bev

I should say so!  Especially if it's on their head!  J. has hair like a
lush tropical rain forest.  You could get your fingers lost in there...
But that might not be so bad.

And btw, you didn't tell me which drug comm'l that cute, "mature" man
was in -- the one flopping into the pool. Bev, there are scores of
cholesterol drugs...

best,

leah
Beverley - 05 Jan 2007 05:36 GMT
I did, once upon a time, have first hand knowledge of the fashion industry
at 5'9", 103 pounds, with 32DD's I was prime for NY until I was told to
remove my back molars to create that sunken look. I had modeled for some
local stores since I was very little. I was very athletic (swim team,
surfer, life guard, ran track for the fun of it and played field hockey and
tennis). I was also more interested in getting an education then being on
the cover of a magazine. I also decided it was a dog eat dog, back stabbing
profession and I really wasn't that interested. Doing local stuff was one
thing, doing the big stuff was another thing. I did a few runway shows in
Philadelphia as a teen which was sort of fun and a few local Phila
commercials. I was a good looking chick back then. LOL Now I look in the
mirror and wonder who the old hag is.

Hubby usually smells of Polo, the one in the green bottle.

I don't remember which Rx it was but they also did the one with the skinny
female "movie star" that fell on the red carpet and the two twin guys and
the one would walk into a wall (or maybe it was a door). They were very
popular about 3-5 years ago. Anyway this mature guy would walk out to the
pool and ALL the women would drop their sunglasses to get a better look at
him. OH YEAH!

JJ didn't go by the name of Hank way back when? I can't even remember Hank's
last name but he had that soft thick black hair and a mustache that was
smooth as silk. You just wanted to pet his forearms and chest. LOL That's
back in the days when we'd sit around with a bottle of Bali hai (cheap wine)
that we'd pour into a bowl and add fruit to it. (After we'd all had surfed
until we couldn't surf any longer.) So we'd drink and play 21 until some
weird hour in the morning.

I remember one summer night I had probably the most famous preacher's
god-daughter with me because my mom thought I should be nicer to her and let
her get to know my friends because she was lonely. She couldn't surf so she
took off with a total stranger and I had to chase her down the beach and
drag her back. Then she got ripping drunk and tumbled into bed with a very
drunk male friend of mine and I had to go break up that almost fiasco.
Nothing like barging in and saying excuse me but you can't have her and then
try to figure out how to sober her up so I could deposit her on her
doorstep.  And why did I get appointed keeper of Linda's virginity when
obviously Linda didn't give a damn about it? And I did get in trouble
because her parents smelled the booze on her.  I didn't pour it down her
throat! And Crow, if you are lurking and I hope you are not because that
means you've joined this club, email me because we have 36 years to catch
up.
Bev

> Dear Bev,
>
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>
> leah
callalily - 03 Jan 2007 17:28 GMT
Dear All,

> > Leah wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> --charlie

I just wanted to warn people that you might find this site a bit
explicit.  But I also wanted to let you know that 2xist also makes
"plain vanilla" briefs which my husband buys, 3/$10, and I think it's
important to support pca-friendly companies. Every little bit counts.

The 2xist website said that they team up with the Nat'l PC Coalition
every year to sponsor "Underwear Day", in which people apparently
parade around the streets of NY modeling their "collection".  Anyway,
they managed to screen 400 men for pc that day and that's what counts!
I don't care how they did it.

It also said on the site that the underwear business generates about $3
billion dollars a year.

So do me a favor, y'all and go shopping:-).

Leah
NICK - 03 Jan 2007 06:14 GMT
> So why do rapists get off on less charges?

Because mutilation/castration is more permanent.
Beverley - 03 Jan 2007 11:13 GMT
Um, rapists tend to maim and often kill as result of their forced entry.
(Their victims bleed to death. If they are lucky they get to live with the
physical and emotional scars of what happened to them.)
Bev

> > So why do rapists get off on less charges?
>
>  Because mutilation/castration is more permanent.
 
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