Some patients don't dwell on lack of erections, others have never tried
available medications and equipment, study finds
October 8, 2006. Commercials for erectile dysfunction (ED) air several
times a day on North American TV screens. But many prostate cancer
survivors who acknowledge that they have erectile dysfunction, or
impotence, say that they are not seriously bothered by the condition.
And some men who agree that they are bothered say that they have never
tried medications or devices to improve their erections.
Lack of experimentation with therapy for ED is more prevalent among
patients with erectile concerns after brachytherapy or 3D-CRT than after
radical prostatectomy, according to a study conducted by urologists and
radiation oncologists at University of Michigan and at Harvard's Beth
Israel hospital.
To find out how much sexual motivation plays into use of erectile
dysfunction (ED) aids among localized prostate cancer treatment
survivors, researchers at these medical centers mailed questionnaires to
896 men 4 to 8 years after brachytherapy, three-dimensional conformal
external beam radiotherapy (3D-CRT), or radical prostatectomy. For
comparison they sent questionnaires to 112 men in the same age range who
had never required treatment for prostate cancer.
This study found that:
The quality of erections unassisted by medications or devices was not
different among the treatment groups.
Prostate cancer survivors used medications or devices for ED more
commonly than did the control men (30% versus 13%).
One half of the prostate cancer survivors with ED said they did not care
about their ED (small to no sexual bother despite absent or poor
unassisted erections).
Among men who were bothered about poor erections, 48% of the
brachytherapy, 61% of the 3D-CRT, and 23% of radical prostatectomy
subjects had never tried commonly available medications or devices to
improve their erections.
The current use of at least one erection aid was an independent
determinant of more favorable sexual QOL. The authors say that their
findings suggest possible opportunities for improving sexual quality of
life among long-term survivors.
Sourcesl:
Urology, Volume 68, Issue 1 , July 2006, Pages 166-171
Use of medications or devices for erectile dysfunction among long-term
prostate cancer treatment survivors: Potential influence of sexual
motivation and/or indifference
David C. Miller, John T. Wei, Rodney L. Dunn, James E. Montie, Hector
Pimentel, Howard M. Sandler, P. William McLaughlin and Martin G. Sanda.
Michigan Urology Center, University of Michigan Medical Center, Ann
Arbor, Michigan, USA. Department of Radiation Oncology, University of
Michigan Medical Center, Ann Arbor, Michigan. Division of Urology, Beth
Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Harvard Medical School, Boston,
Massachusetts.
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Peter Headland - 16 Oct 2006 22:49 GMT
> The quality of erections unassisted by medications or devices was not
> different among the treatment groups.
I hope that those here who constantly tell us that RT is much better in
this regard that RP will take note of this.

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Peter Headland
Beverley - 17 Oct 2006 04:01 GMT
Maybe that's because the RT guys aren't supposed to have problems so they
don't want to mention it or the doc fails to ask and assumes that all is
working as it should.
Bev
> > The quality of erections unassisted by medications or devices was not
> > different among the treatment groups.
>
> I hope that those here who constantly tell us that RT is much better in
> this regard that RP will take note of this.
tchtic@yahoo.com - 17 Oct 2006 11:52 GMT
> Maybe that's because the RT guys aren't supposed to have problems so they
> don't want to mention it or the doc fails to ask and assumes that all is
> working as it should.
I went Rad and at 2 years, on my best days, I'm a lot softer than
before the treatment.
I can manage a penetrating erection without chemical assists. It's
actually getting better as the months go by.
It still takes a lot of vivid visualization, thinking about times in
the back seat of the old Biscayne, the windows steamed up, recalling
the squealing and moaning, "hurry, there, right there, aaaaah-OOoooo",
and 19 year old, pert jiggling hemispheres with eraser nubs pointing at
the headliner.
The docs gave me some Vitamin-V and Vitamin-C. Both help but I don't
generally use them.
My main complaint is that I can't keep going. After 3 minutes, it's
all over. It might be that the level of visualization and excitement
needed to keep it up, is too close to the level that pops it off, er,
so to speak.
If I think about the election, tables of economic statistics, the usual
technique to back off from the brink, things get really soft.
I suppose practice makes perfect.
-kh keep pulling guys, don't give up.
I.P. Freely - 17 Oct 2006 17:42 GMT
> It still takes a lot of vivid visualization, thinking about times in
> the back seat of the old Biscayne, the windows steamed up, recalling
> the squealing and moaning, "hurry, there, right there, aaaaah-OOoooo",
> and 19 year old, pert jiggling hemispheres with eraser nubs pointing at
> the headliner.
Somebody's been reading -- or writing -- too many dime romance novels. ;-)
I.P.
Leonard Evens - 17 Oct 2006 04:42 GMT
>>The quality of erections unassisted by medications or devices was not
>>different among the treatment groups.
>
> I hope that those here who constantly tell us that RT is much better in
> this regard that RP will take note of this.
ED following treatment for prostate cancer can occur whatever the
treatment. But I believe it is true that for older men, past 70, the
results for radiation are a bit better than for RP.